Can't boot dyne:bolic

[ltk5]

I've burned myself Dyne:bolic 2.4. The booting process starts fine.
When it wants to start the X server, an error is displayed. It says there are 'no screens found'.
If I want to change anything (what for example?) I have to login, but I don't know the username or the password. Any suggestions?:confused:

[steven8]

Is it a liveCD? Try entering vga=normal before starting the boot sequence.

[ltk5]

I have tried typing that in, but it just says, that the command isn't found.
I've also tried some of the parameters suggested a the main screen, but with no luck.
Every time it stops at the fatal error: no screens found...

[steven8]

I looked around the dyne:bolic website awhile back, but never tried it. It certainly is an x issue, I'd say. Is there an aternate cd for text-based installation? That woudl be pointless if it is a liveCD you're trying, though.

What are the video parameters it offers?

[ltk5]

the video modes i can choose:
* 256 (8bit)
* 32768 (15)
*65536 (16)
*16.8M (24)
with different resolutions: 800x600, 1024x768... The default is 16bit, 800x600. I've changed it to 1024c768, but it doesn't help.

other boot parameters I can add.
boot: linux nohd, noapic, acpi=off, ide0=ata66 ide1=66, interactive=true
most of them don't work for me.

[steven8]

Shoot. This is the one I was trying to think of: acpi=off

Do they have any support forums at their site? I have had like 3 distros that just will not run on my machine, no matter what I've tried. :(

[steven8]

Did you enter this value to get 1024 x 768 24 bit: vga=0x318?

according to their FAQ's, this is what you type in to get that setting.

http://lab.dyne.org/TroubleShooting

[ltk5]

Shoot. This is the one I was trying to think of: acpi=off

Do they have any support forums at their site? I have had like 3 distros that just will not run on my machine, no matter what I've tried. :(

Ok, now I have tried it, and it doesn't help. It says, that the xorg.conf has an error.
I'll try again changing the resolution. I think I might have done it wrong the first time.

[tgalati4]

Dynebolic is cool. And it works well. Keep the faith.

What is your graphics card? What is the output of lspci?

Post your xorg.conf (normally found in /etc/X11/ but could be elsewhere)

There is also a text-based x-configurator. I forget the command: something like x_setup.sh or similar. It will take you through the X11 settings and choose a low res mode to get started.

Good luck!

[ltk5]

the lspci output is:
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Memory Controller Hub (rev 02)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 01)
00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 3 (rev 01)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 4 (rev 01)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI #1 (rev 01)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI #2 (rev 01)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI #3 (rev 01)
00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI #4 (rev 01)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 01)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev e1)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GB/GR (ICH7 Family) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 01)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801GB/GR/GH (ICH7 Family) Serial ATA Storage Controller IDE (rev 01)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 01)
04:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Unknown device 1094 (rev 01)


The xorg.conf is under Ubuntu:
lotko@lotko-ltk05:~$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
# /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual page.
# (Type "man /etc/X11/xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following command:
# sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Section "Files"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc"
# path to defoma fonts
FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "i2c"
Load "bitmap"
Load "ddc"
Load "dri"
Load "extmod"
Load "freetype"
Load "glx"
Load "int10"
Load "type1"
Load "vbe"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
Driver "kbd"
Option "CoreKeyboard"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "si"
Option "XkbOptions" "lv3:ralt_switch"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Configured Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "CorePointer"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "wacom"
Identifier "stylus"
Option "Device" "/dev/wacom" # Change to
# /dev/input/event
# for USB
Option "Type" "stylus"
Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "wacom"
Identifier "eraser"
Option "Device" "/dev/wacom" # Change to
# /dev/input/event
# for USB
Option "Type" "eraser"
Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "wacom"
Identifier "cursor"
Option "Device" "/dev/wacom" # Change to
# /dev/input/event
# for USB
Option "Type" "cursor"
Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Intel Corporation Intel Default Card"
Driver "i810"
BusID "PCI:0:2:0"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "L1512S"
Option "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Default Screen"
Device "Intel Corporation Intel Default Card"
Monitor "L1512S"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 1
Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 4
Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 15
Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Default Layout"
Screen "Default Screen"
InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
InputDevice "stylus" "SendCoreEvents"
InputDevice "cursor" "SendCoreEvents"
InputDevice "eraser" "SendCoreEvents"
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection

[ltk5]

any ideas guys?

I've tried going into text mode, but it says I need to login, and I don't know nor the user name nor the password.

[rai4shu2]

I think for the live CD you login as root with luther as your password.

That distro has some weird default xorg settings, so you may have to play around with different vga=some number settings.

[tgalati4]

Yes, I believe luther is the default password.

You have a decent Intel chipset with Intel on-board graphics. Everything should be well supported in Linux.

Here's a reach--on board graphics often share RAM with main memory. You might have to go into BIOS and increase the amount of shared VIDEO RAM to 16 or 32 MB.

It is possible that it is set to a low value or that the X server can't determine the memory and therefore refuses to go into a high resolution mode.

I need the xorg.conf file from Dynebolic. When you get to a text console, login as root, luther and then do lspci and more xorg.conf and compare them to your previous post. Any differences should be noted.

Keep the faith. Spring is coming.

[ltk5]

Ok. I've checked both xorg.conf files, and beside the minimal differences between keybord, and mouse configuration, there's just the scren :)

Here is the Dyne xorg.conf

# dyne:bolic XF86Config file

# of course this comes from the XFree86 examples
# packed together by Jaromil
# mice handling by C1cc10

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Default Layout"
Screen "Screen0"
InputDevice "Keyboard0"
InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
InputDevice "USB Mouse"
InputDevice "Generic Mouse"
EndSection



Section "Files"
# RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/xorg/modules"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/intl/"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "extmod"
Load "glx"
Load "dri"
Load "dbe"
# Load "speedo"
Load "type1"
Load "freetype"
EndSection


Section "DRI"
# don't ask why <g>
Mode 0666
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"

# Option "NoTrapSignals"
# Option "DontZap"
# Option "Dont Zoom"
# Option "DisableVidModeExtension"
# Option "AllowNonLocalXvidtune"
# Option "DisableModInDev"
# Option "AllowNonLocalModInDev"

EndSection


Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbTypes" "default"
Option "XkbCompat" "basic+pc+iso9995"
Option "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Configured Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "CorePointer"
Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
Option "Protocol" "auto"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0"
Option "Protocol" "Microsoft"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "USB Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Protocol" "auto"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection


Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "Monitor Model"

HorizSync 28-48
VertRefresh 43-72
Option "DPMS"

Modeline "320x200" 12.75 320 324 372 388 200 204 206 210 doublescan
Modeline "224x224" 12.75 224 228 276 288 224 228 230 236 doublescan
Modeline "256x224" 12.75 256 260 308 320 224 228 230 236 doublescan
Modeline "288x224" 12.75 288 292 340 352 224 228 230 236 doublescan
Modeline "320x224" 12.75 320 324 372 388 224 228 230 236 doublescan
Modeline "256x240" 15.00 256 260 308 320 240 244 246 254 doublescan
Modeline "292x240" 16.75 292 296 344 356 240 244 246 254 doublescan
Modeline "320x240" 16.75 320 324 372 388 240 244 246 254 doublescan
Modeline "336x240" 18.00 336 344 392 417 240 244 246 254 doublescan
Modeline "384x224" 20.00 384 388 436 480 224 228 230 236 doublescan
Modeline "384x240" 20.00 384 388 436 480 240 244 246 254 doublescan
Modeline "360x288" 20.00 360 364 412 444 288 292 298 302 doublescan
Modeline "360x256" 18.00 360 364 412 444 256 260 266 270 doublescan
Modeline "400x300" 19.00 400 412 476 500 300 303 306 317
Modeline "400x256" 22.00 400 416 480 504 256 259 262 269 doublescan
Modeline "400x224" 20.00 400 416 480 500 224 228 230 234 doublescan
Modeline "512x384" 25.00 512 516 580 632 384 385 388 400
ModeLine "640x240" 31.50 640 644 708 788 240 244 246 254 doublescan
ModeLine "672x240" 31.50 672 676 740 820 240 244 246 254 doublescan
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "VGA"
Driver "i810"
Option "DRI" "True"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "VGA"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 16
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" "1280x1024" "400x300"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" "1280x1024" "400x300"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" "1280x1024" "400x300"
EndSubSection
EndSection



and the lspci output of Dyne:
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82946GZ/PL/GL Memory Controller Hub (rev 02)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82946GZ/GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 01)
00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 3 (rev 01)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 4 (rev 01)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI #1 (rev 01)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI #2 (rev 01)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI #3 (rev 01)
00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI #4 (rev 01)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 01)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev e1)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GB/GR (ICH7 Family) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 01)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801GB/GR/GH (ICH7 Family) Serial ATA Storage Controller IDE (rev 01)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 01)
04:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation PRO/100 VE Network Connection (rev 01)


I've also compared the xorgs and saw some differences, however there are quite many of them.

Ubuntu has:
Section "Module"
Load "i2c"
Load "bitmap"
Load "ddc"
Load "dri"
Load "extmod"
Load "freetype"
Load "glx"
Load "int10"
Load "type1"
Load "vbe"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Intel Corporation Intel Default Card"
Driver "i810"
BusID "PCI:0:2:0"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "L1512S"
Option "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Default Screen"
Device "Intel Corporation Intel Default Card"
Monitor "L1512S"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 1
Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 4
Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 15
Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection


and Dyne has:
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "Monitor Model"

HorizSync 28-48
VertRefresh 43-72
Option "DPMS"

Modeline "320x200" 12.75 320 324 372 388 200 204 206 210 doublescan
Modeline "224x224" 12.75 224 228 276 288 224 228 230 236 doublescan
Modeline "256x224" 12.75 256 260 308 320 224 228 230 236 doublescan
Modeline "288x224" 12.75 288 292 340 352 224 228 230 236 doublescan
Modeline "320x224" 12.75 320 324 372 388 224 228 230 236 doublescan
Modeline "256x240" 15.00 256 260 308 320 240 244 246 254 doublescan
Modeline "292x240" 16.75 292 296 344 356 240 244 246 254 doublescan
Modeline "320x240" 16.75 320 324 372 388 240 244 246 254 doublescan
Modeline "336x240" 18.00 336 344 392 417 240 244 246 254 doublescan
Modeline "384x224" 20.00 384 388 436 480 224 228 230 236 doublescan
Modeline "384x240" 20.00 384 388 436 480 240 244 246 254 doublescan
Modeline "360x288" 20.00 360 364 412 444 288 292 298 302 doublescan
Modeline "360x256" 18.00 360 364 412 444 256 260 266 270 doublescan
Modeline "400x300" 19.00 400 412 476 500 300 303 306 317
Modeline "400x256" 22.00 400 416 480 504 256 259 262 269 doublescan
Modeline "400x224" 20.00 400 416 480 500 224 228 230 234 doublescan
Modeline "512x384" 25.00 512 516 580 632 384 385 388 400
ModeLine "640x240" 31.50 640 644 708 788 240 244 246 254 doublescan
ModeLine "672x240" 31.50 672 676 740 820 240 244 246 254 doublescan
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "VGA"
Driver "i810"
Option "DRI" "True"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "VGA"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 16
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" "1280x1024" "400x300"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" "1280x1024" "400x300"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" "1280x1024" "400x300"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "extmod"
Load "glx"
Load "dri"
Load "dbe"
# Load "speedo"
Load "type1"
Load "freetype"
EndSection

I guess somewhere here lyes the problem, but except the Section: Module, where there are some of the Load-thingies missing in Dyne and the different Depth settings, I didn't see (or understand) anything.

I still have to change the VGA RAM in Bios. Atm it's set to automatic (I think:D)

[tgalati4]

Linux hates automatic! It can't guess how your hardware is configured and it can change every time you boot, leaving you in strange limbo state. I would also turn of your PnP Operating System in BIOS. Let Linux detect and handle all interrupts. Because Dynebolic is geared for multimedia, there may be tweaks for unusual audio/video hardware that is tripping up resource assignment and ultimately tripping up the xserver.

Also, in your BIOS, turn off your serial port, USB port and parallel port in BIOS (temporarily) to see if Dynebolic is any happier. You can also turn off power
management, since Dynebolic prefers not to sleep when running a realtime kernel.

Good luck.

[ltk5]

I've disabled usb, and paralell ports in bios and checked for other things you've mentioned, but couldn't find them. Saved the changes, rebooted, but dyne doesn't want to go into x.

I guess It can't be done. I'll try to find another computer (maybe at my friend's house) to at least see, how it works. :D

Oh, before I forget. I've been so desperate, I've even copied the xorg.conf from my Ubuntu to Dyne. Of course with no luck, no screens found ;)

Thanks everyone for your support:KS

[rai4shu2]

If I had to guess I'd say your machine is just too good for dyne. Their requirements make it clear that they are geared for old machines.

[tgalati4]

I can't remember if Dynebolic is build off of a 2.4 or 2.6 kernel. I hadn't thought about that.

There is a "studio" version of Ubuntu under development. It also has hooks for a real time kernel that you can turn on and turn off. That gives you all the Ubuntu goodness, with a real-time switch, for when you gotta have the CPU cycles.

It's designed for muscians, graphic artists, and video editors. That may be what you want to try.

If Ubuntu runs well then the studio edition should run as well.

I run Dynebolic on a 300 MHz, Pentium II that someone gave me. I also have an M-Audio sound card that was also donated. With it, I can record 2-track live aound, compress to mp3 on the fly and also stream to the internet. CPU load is between 50 and 70%. I have been able to do 2 hour recordings without any hickups so Dynebolic delivers the goods--especially on older hardware.

Good luck!

[ltk5]

If I had to guess I'd say your machine is just too good for dyne. Their requirements make it clear that they are geared for old machines.

whoa, thanks! :D


I run Dynebolic on a 300 MHz, Pentium II that someone gave me.

I'll try it on my 233Mhz. Hope it'll run. If it will, it'll be one of the fewer liveCDs.
I'll give Ubuntu Studio a try ;)

[xyz]

This may be of interest:
by RAV TUX (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=359103&highlight=dyne+bolic)

[ltk5]

hm.. pure:dyne, guess I'll try that also. Thx

and what albesan said in the end about running dyne on newer machines, guess he's right ;)



edit: I've trade Dyne on my old 266mmx and it works great. I must say it's rare to make a liveCD run on that box. When I tried xubuntu, there was an x error, other distros just take too long to boot. I should've tried Puppy, but I don't use that computer.

[albesan]

hey,

I know this thread is ancient history but still, you never know, might be useful to someone.
I found this guide to get dyne bolic working:

http://blog.bracewell.org/2006/12/22/dynebolic-2/