What does Vista let me think

[Gargamella]

I have seen windows vista and I think that the developers spent all their time to improve security and previous lacks in some features and they renewed the interface so now all 1yearold pcs seem to be too slow.

Anyway I would like to say that I am happy and relaxed because they have not created new features, functiones or something to bring a revolution...(for example an important feature has been plug and play)

MS uses to release every 3 - 4 years... Linux in these years i think will improve the interface and develop new features, which is very important.
Hoping to have both systems more compatible i also hope to have more entarteinment on linux (good games for example)

Windows Vista let me think that it cannot face anymore the global growing process of open source that is faster.

It is 3 o clock in the morning,maybe that is no-sense but I like writing when tired...what do you think about this thread? (very useless one)

Andrea

[teaker1s]

vista is hype, now if a consumer electronics supplier got behind ubuntu it would fly:KS

[igknighted]

I think microsoft did learn from the Vista. I think to a degree they understand that their current methods have some flaws (some of the interviews I read of MS higher ups seem to indicate this). I don't think they will start 'open sourcing' anything, but I think they are going to start modularizing their OS, making it more nimble. Also, I think MS can get away with a slow release cycle. Windows doesn't really come with any applications that get obsoleted. Windows users (for the most part) want to ignore their OS as much as possible, and a slow release cycle is good. Imagine most windows users if MS went to a quicker release cycle (say every year) trying to stay current. Linux (compared to windows) is a very easy install and look how may problems people have. Once people realized how hard it is to find drivers for every piece of hardware in windows, there would be an uproar. Plus windows would have to support several generations back because people wouldn't upgrade. It would be a mess.

Ok, I don't have the 3 am excuse to ramble, but I think based on the Vista experience, windows will begin to change.

[greymongrey]

Almost every expert predicted Vista would be the new ME and so far that has turned out to be the case. I've read they are already working on SP1, due out later this year. I expect to see major changes to Vista when they release it. Vista will be a major player eventually no matter what since you can't buy a new computer without it being on there. I really would like to see that changed, though.

[beast2k]

What vista will NOT let you do is what is going to prompt people to at least look at other alternative OSes. Unfortunately I think that most average windows users will choose MacOSX over any distro of linux and the windows "power users" will be the ones to check out linux. Only time will tell, and hopefuly the price of Mac will eventualy drive the average users to linux.

[Gargamella]

I would like anyway mac users more than MS users, it is unix first of all and then when you know it is so expensive you may discover the free alternative -------------------------------
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[Hex_Mandos]

1) Most Windows users won't migrate. Vista is no worse than most Windows releases, even if it adds no interesting new feature.
2) I'd rather use Windows than OS X. MS gives users more freedom than Apple (for example, in regard to hardware). MS is probably more benign a monopolist than Apple would be. Of course, the best thing would be no monopoly at all.
3) How many OS X users know that it's Unix?

[misfitpierce]

I agree with teaker. Ubuntu is not only version of linux I run but I did throw down the cash on Vista Ultimate and it is just hype. It did however look pretty but thats as much as i'll say for it. It had lots of issues with existing programs such as steam and itunes. Not my top rated but yes Ubuntu would fly if pushed.

[meng]

1) Most Windows users won't migrate. Vista is no worse than most Windows releases, even if it adds no interesting new feature.
I have to agree here. When ME came out, I swallowed it up, and despite experiencing many problems, I was too stubborn to go back to 98SE. I continued to put up with ME until XP came out.

[teaker1s]

Chap from Microsoft setting up a display at my local store, thought I'd ask a few thorny questions and see the reply-what amazed me was he turned round and said wait for the first service pack.
:lolflag: Even more amazing he asked what I used and I thought to be reasonable I'd say duel boot media center xp (once a month if that) and linux= his reply your better off with linux.
Wish we had a video of him as it was priceless.

[meng]

You're right that's difficult to believe.

[Adamant1988]

I think microsoft did learn from the Vista. I think to a degree they understand that their current methods have some flaws (some of the interviews I read of MS higher ups seem to indicate this). I don't think they will start 'open sourcing' anything, but I think they are going to start modularizing their OS, making it more nimble. Also, I think MS can get away with a slow release cycle. Windows doesn't really come with any applications that get obsoleted. Windows users (for the most part) want to ignore their OS as much as possible, and a slow release cycle is good. Imagine most windows users if MS went to a quicker release cycle (say every year) trying to stay current. Linux (compared to windows) is a very easy install and look how may problems people have. Once people realized how hard it is to find drivers for every piece of hardware in windows, there would be an uproar. Plus windows would have to support several generations back because people wouldn't upgrade. It would be a mess.

Ok, I don't have the 3 am excuse to ramble, but I think based on the Vista experience, windows will begin to change.

Slow release cycles are an OEMs best friend. :)

[igknighted]

I agree with teaker. Ubuntu is not only version of linux I run but I did throw down the cash on Vista Ultimate and it is just hype. It did however look pretty but thats as much as i'll say for it. It had lots of issues with existing programs such as steam and itunes. Not my top rated but yes Ubuntu would fly if pushed.

I'm not sure what you mean here, Steam and iTunes work perfectly with Vista. You need the new iTunes 7, the old ones will not work, and Steam hasn't been problematic for me at all. Your issue must lie somewhere else (since its windows, probably drivers), but Vista itself can run those programs flawlessly.

As for the hype, I think any version of windows gets a ton of hype. Vista is nowhere near the level of hype windows 95 had when it came out, and 95 was crap (I for one stayed w/ 3.1 until 98se). When 90% of computer users use windows, and the first new version comes out for 5 years, there is bound to be hype. That said, windows has done a lot right. Security is, as always, a work in progress and I don't trust it, but they are moving in the right direction with user rights and permissions. For the first time they also have included a default desktop that actually looks good. Say what you want about its strain on the system, but it looks gorgeous. Neat and tidy enough for the business setting, but enough effects for the common user. The hardware requirements are a lot, but I have (basically, some minor upgrades) a PC I bought 3 years ago (good then, but no where near top of the line) that runs Vista fine and games perfectly on top of it, so it isn't that bad.

1) Most Windows users won't migrate. Vista is no worse than most Windows releases, even if it adds no interesting new feature.
2) I'd rather use Windows than OS X. MS gives users more freedom than Apple (for example, in regard to hardware). MS is probably more benign a monopolist than Apple would be. Of course, the best thing would be no monopoly at all.
3) How many OS X users know that it's Unix?

1) I agree wholeheartedly with this... until they are told they can't do [insert common task here] because of anti-piracy or DRM or any of that nonsense. That is what will win converts, but probably not much else.

2) VERY strongly agree with this. I think most linux people like OS X, and i don't understand why. Apple has a history of being even more closed than windows. At the moment, however, the two companies are moving in opposite directions. Apple recently asked the record companies to release music to sell on iTunes without DRM (makes sense, if windows can sell DRM music to its customers and block apple out of the marketshare of windows users, apple would be sunk... so DRM free music lets them back in), while Vista, in some ways, is a nod towards DRM becoming more and more here to stay.

3) I don't use Mac's, but I didn't know this until earlier this year because there are signs in our college computer lab advertising it.