View Full Version : What's the best card for gaming in Ubuntu?
ringding
May 14th, 2005, 02:11 PM
I am in the market for a new video cards for 2 systems, both have ASUS A7V880 mobos. 512 mem in each. Needs to be AGP.
any suggestions for around $60-$100 (I was checking newegg for refurbs, had good luck in the past)
I also heard nVidia based cards are better supported. Less hassele to configure??? True???? or no????
Any info greatly appreciated!!!!! ](*,)
equilibrium
May 14th, 2005, 03:34 PM
There's a interesting article with some benchmarks here (http://anandtech.com/linux/showdoc.aspx?i=2229).
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/linux%20gpu%20performance_09300440926/4884.png
I would go for nvidia all the time for a linux system :)
Saying that tho, I've never had anything different since my 3dfx voodoo1 :grin:
AndersAA
May 14th, 2005, 05:56 PM
aslong as you get a nvidia card you'll be fine ;), ati has good cards, they just dont have the drivers to make em work properly ;)
Chrysaor
May 14th, 2005, 06:17 PM
Definately go for NVIDIA. For 100~ish budget you can get a 6200 i think, get a non TC.
ringding
May 14th, 2005, 07:39 PM
thanks for all your help guys....... it is appreciated!
nVidia it is...... anyone wanna buy a slightly used Radeon 9550 128bit?? :roll: :wink:
Muchacho_Gasolino
May 15th, 2005, 07:40 PM
the FX5700s are pretty cheap, and it looks like the Ultra got pretty good scores on there. I dont know if I would get a 6200, as they are the budget 6000 series card, and may not work as well even though it has a higher number
jdodson
May 16th, 2005, 12:58 AM
the FX5700s are pretty cheap, and it looks like the Ultra got pretty good scores on there. I dont know if I would get a 6200, as they are the budget 6000 series card, and may not work as well even though it has a higher number
i have a 5700LE and it is great. can run halflife2(in ubuntu) and ut2004, neverwinter, etc, max res, no problems. quake3, ut-goty, americas army. its all great. $99, 256M ram on the card. i think its a pretty good deal.
ringding
May 16th, 2005, 08:30 AM
I was just looking at a couple of 5700LEs seems like a good card.
Here are some of the other cards I am considering:
5900XT
5700LE
5600 Ultra
5500 OC
5500
Xeppo
May 16th, 2005, 09:53 AM
I am in the market for a new video cards for 2 systems, both have ASUS A7V880 mobos. 512 mem in each. Needs to be AGP.
any suggestions for around $60-$100 (I was checking newegg for refurbs, had good luck in the past)
I also heard nVidia based cards are better supported. Less hassele to configure??? True???? or no????
Any info greatly appreciated!!!!! ](*,)
The benchmark that equillibrium is referring you to, while still following the general trend, is nowhere close to that actual numbers anymore. That review was made in October of 2004 and since that day, ATI has released new Drivers for both 32-and64-bit Linux systems. I am running a 9600XT right now, and while I don't know the exact numbers, I can promise you that I'm getting better than 31 FPS.
While Nvidia is geterally better than ATI in Linux, it's generally inferior to ATI while running windows. That said, if you ever plan on gaming in windows any time soon, do you really want to buy an inferior graphics card that plays decent in Linux and decent in Windows, or do you want a good graphics card that plays decent in Linux and amazingly well in Windows?
AndersAA
May 16th, 2005, 09:57 AM
While Nvidia is geterally better than ATI in Linux, it's generally inferior to ATI while running windows. That said, if you ever plan on gaming in windows any time soon, do you really want to buy an inferior graphics card that plays decent in Linux and decent in Windows, or do you want a good graphics card that plays decent in Linux and amazingly well in Windows?
... now that's simply not true, look around, the latest high end nvidia cards beat their ati counterparts.
equilibrium
May 16th, 2005, 10:44 AM
The benchmark that equillibrium is referring you to, while still following the general trend, is nowhere close to that actual numbers anymore. That review was made in October of 2004 and since that day, ATI has released new Drivers for both 32-and64-bit Linux systems. I am running a 9600XT right now, and while I don't know the exact numbers, I can promise you that I'm getting better than 31 FPS.
While Nvidia is geterally better than ATI in Linux, it's generally inferior to ATI while running windows. That said, if you ever plan on gaming in windows any time soon, do you really want to buy an inferior graphics card that plays decent in Linux and decent in Windows, or do you want a good graphics card that plays decent in Linux and amazingly well in Windows?
ATi Fanboy alert tbh :?
Both nVidia and ATi have good and bad points. But nVidia have it where it counts. They have brilliant opengl support and performance compared to ATi. ATi maybe better on directx but that doesn't matter here.
Also where in any benchmarks do you see that nvidia are inferior??
I seem to remember in '96 the only ATi card's I saw were the ones I was removing to be replaced with S3 Virge's :roll:
I also seem to remember a few months ago ATi were pulled up on a directx texture filtering 'tweak' / hack which was basically cheating, as the quality was rubbish compared to nvidia.
Ths fact remains that even in windows nvidia are not and never have been inferior to ATi.
ringding
May 16th, 2005, 11:35 AM
The benchmark that equillibrium is referring you to, while still following the general trend, is nowhere close to that actual numbers anymore. That review was made in October of 2004 and since that day, ATI has released new Drivers for both 32-and64-bit Linux systems. I am running a 9600XT right now, and while I don't know the exact numbers, I can promise you that I'm getting better than 31 FPS.
While Nvidia is geterally better than ATI in Linux, it's generally inferior to ATI while running windows. That said, if you ever plan on gaming in windows any time soon, do you really want to buy an inferior graphics card that plays decent in Linux and decent in Windows, or do you want a good graphics card that plays decent in Linux and amazingly well in Windows?
Well I have a Radeon 9550 that I purchased about a month ago which is running on a dual boot sys WinXPmce/Ubuntu.
But, I am Having a hard time getting the 9550 running well. This was actually my first ATi purchase, as I purchased all nvidia in the past with less problems.
Can anyone point me to a decent How-To for ATI cards???? ](*,)
Want to see if I can at least get it to work before I ebay it.
I downloaded and installed the fglrx packages from synaptic....but not sure what to do next???
slux
May 16th, 2005, 12:52 PM
Get NVIDIA. Period. The ATI drivers can occasionally be a major PITA to set up and they are far behind in terms of performance.
There is only one exception. If you don't like non-free software, you might want to consider a Radeon <=9250 as there are fairly good free DRI drivers available for those.
If that's not an issue, it's NVIDIA all the way. Their driver support has been excellent since the TNT2 days even if it is just a proprietary offering.
The differences in Windows performance are, in the end, insignificant in exchange for identical performance across operating systems and they seem to be fairly small anyway.
emineo
May 16th, 2005, 10:05 PM
I have a ATI Radeon 9800 PRO and it works flawlessly with my Linux, and also Im a major linux newbie and the driver installation was pretty simple.
djpharoah
May 18th, 2005, 09:55 AM
would definitely reccomend an nVidia card as they have better support within Xorg than most ati drivers.
that doesnt mean that ati cards wont work,...just more of a PITA to get them hardware accelerated than nvidia cards
iRonYk
May 22nd, 2005, 04:56 PM
Hi guys, my first post here. I really want to add my idea on nVidia vs. ATI combat.
I have been around Linux for quite a while, and by that I don't mean, I am a Linux Guru, but I have tried many distributions and can already solve a problem or two on my own (like setting up 3D acceleration on my own).
I had both, an ATI card (Radeon 9200) and nVidia cards (from TNT 2 to GeForce FX 5700 Ultra) and I cannot but recommend nVIDIA. The reason is quite simple.
ATI's strategy is that of a tracking company and they will never invest time nor resources into some unproven-progressive-underground-new-experimental projects.
They [ATI] invest only where there is a potential for the income to outgrow the costs in the short run. If you read the interviews with their lead programmers in respect of the Linux drivers, its clear that they are willing to do just THAT MUCH [-X where nVidia guys, who come out of the SGI family, thus UNIX people, put real effort into their work/drivers.
I have never had a problem with an nVidia card, either under Linux or M$ Windows and I wouldn't say ATI cards are performing that much better than nVidia cards. If you get 12 fps higher rate with ATI, this is next to irrelevant, if the rate is 60 as compared to 72, if it were 12 to 24 that would be a different story, but with all the new cards, it's not. So don't care about the supposedly existing minor advantage, but take, what is going to provide the service it was promising, thus accelerated graphics. ATI does this only to an extent, should the X.org and/or XFree change something again, you are going to be waiting another 6 months for a driver from ATI. I am just really disappointed with them and cannot but tell :-| ATI just wants your money, with nVidia, it is similar, but concerning their effort in place, I am more willing to pay nVidia rather than ATI.
That said, go for nVIDIA. I have Ge Force FX 5700 Ultra, and I am telling you, the card rocks \\:D/
Takis
May 22nd, 2005, 05:48 PM
Why didn't those stats include anti-aliasing? I love the look anti-aliasing gives and would have thought that they'd have it switched on in benchmarking (even x2, although preferably at least x4).
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