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tcrroadie
December 15th, 2006, 06:57 PM
Updated Link for Enlightenment install Thread (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=546746&highlight=e17&page=7).



I thought I would create a new post on the installation of Enlightenment E17 (DR17) on Ubuntu.


The installation of Enlightenment E17 sited in this thread uses the repositories created by the Elbuntu team. Special thanks goes out to all of the Elbuntu developers for taking the time to package E17 for Ubuntu and making the repositories available to the community.

More information on the Elbuntu project can be found here.

http://e17blog.tuxfamily.org/ebuntu_en.php/

Now lets begin the installation process for E17.

Lets make sure our system is up to date.

In a terminal run the following command.


sudo aptitude update


sudo aptitude upgrade

Next we will add the needed repository for E17 to our apt sources list.

In a terminal copy and past the following command.


sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list

There are three repositories available, with available packages for Dapper Drake, Edgy Eft, and Feisty Fawn, "edevelop.org" and "e17.dunnewind.net". Add one of the following repositories to the end of your apt sources list.


Dapper Drake repositories


## E17 repository "edevelop.org"
deb http://edevelop.org/pkg-e/ubuntu dapper e17
deb-src http://edevelop.org/pkg-e/ubuntu dapper e17



## E17 Repository "e17.dunnewind.net"
deb http://e17.dunnewind.net/ubuntu dapper e17
deb-src http://e17.dunnewind.net/ubuntu dapper e17

Edgy Eft repositories


## E17 repository "edevelop.org"
deb http://edevelop.org/pkg-e/ubuntu edgy e17
deb-src http://edevelop.org/pkg-e/ubuntu edgy e17



## E17 Repository "e17.dunnewind.net"
deb http://e17.dunnewind.net/ubuntu edgy e17
deb-src http://e17.dunnewind.net/ubuntu edgy e17

Feisty Fawn repositories


## E17 repository "edevelop.org"
deb http://edevelop.org/pkg-e/ubuntu feisty e17
deb-src http://edevelop.org/pkg-e/ubuntu feisty e17



## E17 Repository "e17.dunnewind.net"
deb http://e17.dunnewind.net/ubuntu feisty e17
deb-src http://e17.dunnewind.net/ubuntu feisty e17

Save and close gedit.

Add the key.


wget http://lut1n.ifrance.com/repo_key.asc


sudo apt-key add repo_key.asc

Install Enlightenment E17


sudo aptitude update


sudo aptitude install e17

Log out of Gnome. Select session in your log in manager. Enlightenment should be listed. Select Enlightenment as your session and log in.


Please Read Before Posting With Installation Problems

If you encounter dependency errors when installing E17, please check for the presence of an /etc/apt/preferences file. If you are using an apt preferences file, please check for pinning of any enlightenment packages. Please remove any reference to Enlightenment from your /etc/apt/preferences file if listed. Then run


sudo aptitude update


sudo aptitude install e17


If problems with installing E17 still occur, then please post the output you recieve from apt in your post.

You can also contact Lutin or Sp4rKy on the Elbuntu IRC channel at irc.freenode.net with any problems you encounter with installation.

Thank you.

jlc
December 19th, 2006, 01:51 PM
Anyone else getting the repository to hang updating your cache?



Err http://edevelop.org edgy Release.gpg
Could not connect to edevelop.org:80 (67.138.240.42), connection timed out
Fetched 8B in 2m0s (0B/s)
Reading package lists... Done

bugzor
December 19th, 2006, 03:05 PM
Anyone else getting the repository to hang updating your cache?

edevelop.org is down.

looks like iTray and engage applet has been removed from cvs, aka. no 'native' tray for e17 and i dont like trayer T_T

Lut!n
December 19th, 2006, 06:09 PM
Works fine here, edevelop.org no longer seems to be down. just a bit slow ;)

Frak
December 22nd, 2006, 04:22 AM
Thanks, e17 is the most beautiful, useful, and enventive (pun intended) desktop I've seen.

Cody Body
December 23rd, 2006, 09:55 PM
E17 replace gnome or not ?

dakini
December 24th, 2006, 12:44 AM
Very nice :D Thanks for the tutorial!

Sandman32
December 24th, 2006, 12:18 PM
Nice howto, worked like a charm. However, in the editing your sources section you are missing an s at the end of sources.

Other than that perfect!

komaroveli
December 29th, 2006, 05:14 PM
isn't enlightenment in edgy repos? and in most uptodate version? or am i missing something

AgenT
December 30th, 2006, 03:20 AM
isn't enlightenment in edgy repos? and in most uptodate version? or am i missing something
Yes. The version in the official Ubuntu repo is 16.7.2. This is the stable version, but E17 has been in the works for a very long time now (at least two years).

But even E16 is outdated as the newest version is 16.8.5.
The E17 repo information can be found here (http://www0.get-e.org/Main/News/_articles/365.html).

http://enlightenment.sourceforge.net/
http://fr.enlightenment.org/
http://www.get-e.org/
http://www.elivecd.org/

komaroveli
December 30th, 2006, 03:58 PM
thnx for info AgenT.
it is indeed best desktop i have ever worked on. they should make Eubuntu (you know like thay have Kubuntu, Xubuntu...). i would do it if only i knew how (or at least if someone would tell me where to start educating myself)

autocrosser
December 30th, 2006, 05:32 PM
Yes--I am liking Enlightenment (running in it right now:))--one small problem--E seems to not like my Firefox install--keeps telling me that Firefox is already running & close Firefox or restart to use it--this is only happing in my E user (I created a seperate user just for E) & will happen with any E user I setup--My "normal" user in Gnome has no problems--In E, Mozilla works fine, as will SeaMonkey or Opera:-k

Any ideas?

AgenT
December 30th, 2006, 05:51 PM
thnx for info AgenT.
it is indeed best desktop i have ever worked on. they should make Eubuntu (you know like thay have Kubuntu, Xubuntu...). i would do it if only i knew how (or at least if someone would tell me where to start educating myself)
You probably searched for Eubuntu and not Ebuntu, the latter giving you the information you need.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ebuntu

As for myself, it is Beryl over Enlightenment for the following reasons:
1) scale plugin, this plugin with 3 scale modes and 3 style modes puts OSX's expose to shame and is amazing
2) very rapid development with a very responsive and open developers

UPDATE: According to this bug report (https://launchpad.net/products/ebuntu/+bug/70689), the Ebuntu project has changed its name to Elbuntu (http://e17blog.tuxfamily.org/ebuntu_en.php/).

Frédéric Perrin
December 30th, 2006, 06:28 PM
Work on an Ubuntu derivative with E17 as its default window manager has started : https://launchpad.net/products/ebuntu

Due to name conflicts with Edubuntu, its name is going to be Elbuntu (see discussion (https://bugs.launchpad.net/products/ebuntu/+bug/70689) on Launchpad).

AgenT > For Beryl + E17, is it what you are using, or what you wish to see ?
In the latter case, I would be very interested in how you did it.

AgenT
December 30th, 2006, 08:31 PM
AgenT > For Beryl + E17, is it what you are using, or what you wish to see ?
In the latter case, I would be very interested in how you did it.Neither. I use Beryl without E17 and do not wish to use Beryl with E17. Although I would imagine that using Beryl with E17 would not be too difficult.

What I meant by the above post was that I use Beryl over E17 because E17 is missing point #1, or something that has similar benefits and #2. I actually have most of the graphical features turned off in Beryl because I use it for the usability and productivity aspects. However, E17 is a very good window manager or desktop, depending on how you use it.

FyreBrand
January 3rd, 2007, 09:21 PM
Neither. I use Beryl without E17 and do not wish to use Beryl with E17. Although I would imagine that using Beryl with E17 would not be too difficult.

What I meant by the above post was that I use Beryl over E17 because E17 is missing point #1, or something that has similar benefits and #2. I actually have most of the graphical features turned off in Beryl because I use it for the usability and productivity aspects. However, E17 is a very good window manager or desktop, depending on how you use it.I tested out Beryl about a month ago just to see what it is like. It seems like there are some things about it that could really improve productivity. I'm not really interested in burning windows and that, but to help me out programming. I often have a lot of windows open over 2 or 3 desktops. Would it be useful for that? I've looked at E17, but it doesn't seem like it will improve on what I can do in KDE (which I like a lot). If you have links to other threads or articles on using Beryl or Compiz for productivity I would appreciate it. Also I'm curious why the plug-in you use is so important to that. The major thing I didn't like about Beryl (using Emerald configurator) is that most all the themes and effects are tied to Gnome libraries which I would rather not install.

Apologies at the off topic request. I did look into E17 though because I find the concept very interesting. In many ways I think the E17 developers are heading in a great direction.

AgenT
January 3rd, 2007, 11:50 PM
I tested out Beryl about a month ago just to see what it is like. It seems like there are some things about it that could really improve productivity.Are you sure that you tried out Beryl and not Compiz. They do differ. Beryl is a fork of Compiz.


I'm not really interested in burning windows and that, but to help me out programming.I also am not interested in fancy graphical shows which is why I turn most plugins off.


I often have a lot of windows open over 2 or 3 desktops. Would it be useful for that?... Also I'm curious why the plug-in you use is so important to that...Yes, very much useful for that if you use it correctly. This is one of the major productivity boosts that I gained. I no longer bother with using minimized windows or a panel. Instead, I use many plugins, all of which are important. But the major one concerning changing windows is Scale. Scale is like expose in OSX except much better. It also has three modes, with three styles each. I use scale two of the three: scale all windows and scale all windows in viewport. I also have scale scale minimized windows "just in case" which is off by default. I have scale bound to top-right screen touch and bottom-left. Bottom-right is to show desktop which works *much* better than normal show desktop in metacity. Also, there are a few tricks to scale, such as having drag-and-drop using it (very useful) and closing windows by clicking mouse button 2. You can close not needed windows very fast this way. Scale is really nice, especially for smaller screens (I use a 12" screen).

Another very important aspect of Beryl is the key binding ability. Play around with it a little and you will soon find huge improvements in productivity. For example, my Thinkpad has a trackpoint and with custom key bindings, I not only never have to take my hands off the keyboard, but everything from switching windows to show desktop to switching viewports can be done very quickly. I have all panels hidden and rarely use them. I am also looking into getting rid of all panels and menus now that I have found out how much better it is to not have to use them so much.

This is just a short summery and in truth productivity is different for everyone and everyone will have their "weaknesses" that they can improve upon. Even some of the effects that people think are only for show (like the ones in animation plugin) are pretty useful if used properly. Also, describing a WM is pretty difficult. It's about as useful as a picture (not very).


I've looked at E17, but it doesn't seem like it will improve on what I can do in KDE (which I like a lot).Are you sure you looked into it and gave it enough time? Try it out for a longer time and look into everything that it has to offer. You never know, you may just find that one or two features that really work for you. Not everything is enabled by default or made for your habits.


If you have links to other threads or articles on using Beryl or Compiz for productivity I would appreciate it.I do not. But I do have a video that you may be interested in. I tried looking for it on the Internet but I cannot find it. I can, however, upload it somewhere or send it to you. Private message me your information and I will upload/send it. Do note that it is 20mb.


Also I'm curious why the plug-in you use is so important to that. The major thing I didn't like about Beryl (using Emerald configurator) is that most all the themes and effects are tied to Gnome libraries which I would rather not install.Again, are you sure you tried Beryl and emerald? The really big difference between Beryl and Compiz is that Compiz requires DE libraries and Beryl is 100% standalone. Emerald is also DE agnostic, but there are also theme engines for GNOME and KDE themes (100% compatible) that use GNOME and KDE libs. You can install the same Beryl (with Emerald) on GNOME, KDE, any other DE or none at all.


I did look into E17 though because I find the concept very interesting. In many ways I think the E17 developers are heading in a great direction.The one thing that is *very* nice about E is how bloat-free it is and how low of a system it will run on. KDE and GNOME are all as bloated as you pretty much can get in Linux and E is just amazing. Especially considering that E is not only a WM but also a DE.

FyreBrand
January 4th, 2007, 02:04 AM
I did use Beryl with Emerald. I installed it using these instructions: Installing Beryl on Edgy with XGL (http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL). I wasn't really clear in that Beryl didn't ask for Gnome dependencies, but many of the themes wanted Gnome components.

I did like it though, but I should have given it more time. The same thing goes for E17. I just tried it out for a very short bit and then switched back and actually I think it was E16 when I think back and not E17 so I'm going to try out the newer version on the easy install thread.

I'm going to try out E17 first and then Beryl. I'm not exactly sure if I can install Beryl on KDE and also E17 without breaking everything. Not really a big deal since I keep a separate document partition, but I'll go slow to start.

Thanks for the feedback.

fuscia
January 5th, 2007, 05:48 PM
this was so easy, it didn't really feel like e17. thanks.

_simon_
January 5th, 2007, 07:12 PM
If I install E17, is removal just a case of going into synaptic and removing?

CowzRule
January 5th, 2007, 07:42 PM
If I install E17, is removal just a case of going into synaptic and removing?
yep

The Noble
January 6th, 2007, 03:12 AM
I don't think you can use synaptic to remove e17 and all of its dependencies, as synamptic uses apt-get. To remove e17, type "sudo aptitude remove e17" in the console and everything will be removed. Also, thanks for making this guide, as enlightenment is actually usable now! Looks amazing as well.

limaunion
January 6th, 2007, 04:04 AM
While trying to browse http://edevelop.org/pkg-e/ubuntu/ I'm getting:

"Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /pkg-e/ubuntu/ on this server.

Apache/1.3.34 Server at edevelop.org Port 80"

Is there any other mirror available ?
Thanks.

AgenT
January 6th, 2007, 04:33 AM
The mirror works, you just cannot browse it with your web browser.

And in terms of removing via aptitude: it will do you no good if you only remove via aptitude, you must also install it via aptitude:

sudo aptitude install e17
sudo aptitiude remove e17Or a more clean and program error proof way would be to use synaptic and after selecting to install e17, saving the marked packages or just use apt-get and save the list of installed packages. Then iterating over the list of installed packages (hint: use awk to only select package names) and removing every single one. This is for advanced users only.

tcrroadie
January 7th, 2007, 01:19 AM
_simon_

I believe a little clarification on the differences between apt-get and aptitude needs to be made. I am not an expert but from what I understand the main difference between apt-get and aptitude is that aptitude is a little more agressive on package selection. Meaning that when installing packages with aptitude such as E17, aptitude will install all recommended packages as well as all required packages were as apt-get will only install required packages by default. This also applies to removing packages.

So when removing any package, you will want to carefully read what packages aptitude is going to remove, the same also applies to apt-get.

I tend use aptitude over apt-get when it comes to installing packages (applications) because I believe aptitude does a better job of handleing needed packages at install time. As far as removing packages is concerned you can use either. You can also simulate an install or removal of a package by using the -s option to give you an idea of how things will work out.

I hope this info helps and wasn't to long.

Kris.

AgenT
January 7th, 2007, 02:05 AM
A little bit misinformation in the above post. More information:
aptitude versus apt-get (http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude)

finferflu
January 8th, 2007, 11:47 PM
Thanks a lot! E17 is *amazing*. Very eyecandy, very quick and very customizable. I just wonder why it's not as popular as KDE and Gnome. I think E17 will definately be my #1 Window Manager.
Thank you!

Reb
January 9th, 2007, 07:09 AM
The repo isn't resolving for me... is it down?
I guess that's not really a question more a statement...

Lut!n
January 9th, 2007, 11:43 AM
works fine here (tm) :)

AgenT
January 9th, 2007, 01:15 PM
Thanks a lot! E17 is *amazing*. Very eyecandy, very quick and very customizable. I just wonder why it's not as popular as KDE and Gnome. I think E17 will definately be my #1 Window Manager.
Thank you!
Probably because E17 does not install 100 other applications to make the desktop environment "complete". Also, probably because it is a little more advanced than GNOME/KDE and bundle that with the fact that a large portion of Ubuntu users is not Linux savvy....

finferflu
January 9th, 2007, 03:41 PM
Probably because E17 does not install 100 other applications to make the desktop environment "complete". Also, probably because it is a little more advanced than GNOME/KDE and bundle that with the fact that a large portion of Ubuntu users is not Linux savvy....

Actually I think you are right, especially because E17 is a window manager and not a desktop environment like GNOME and KDE. It's still an optimal solution if used on top of either of them. I just love it. I would never expect I could have such beautiful eyecandy and FX combined with velocity that can be compared to IceWM or fluxbox.

Reb
January 9th, 2007, 06:46 PM
IMO, E17 is kinda in between WM and DE... the mirror's working fine now, by the way.

Sconeface
January 9th, 2007, 10:58 PM
So, I'm sure this is a total n00b question, but since I'm n00 (heh heh) to this, I'll ask.

I went through everything and got to the last step, but when I go to install, I get this

Segmentation Faulttate Information.........1%

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Any help would be amazingly appretiated!

floke
January 9th, 2007, 11:18 PM
The one gripe I have with E17 is that you can't autohide the panel - am i wrong? Does anyone know how to do this?

tcrroadie
January 10th, 2007, 02:14 AM
The one gripe I have with E17 is that you can't autohide the panel - am i wrong? Does anyone know how to do this?

Hi Steve. About the closest thing that E17 has to autohiding the panel or shelf is to configure the shelf to allow all windows to overlap the shelf. This can be done by right clicking the shelf and selecting Shelf Configuration from the menu. Click the Advanced tab. In the upper left hand area of the window were Stacking is listed, make shure above everything is unchecked and Allow Windows To Overlap The Shelf is checked. Click apply and you should be good to go.

This will allow windows to overlap the shelf when moving windows and when maximizing windows.

Here is a screen shot from my pc that may be helpfull.

tcrroadie
January 10th, 2007, 04:36 AM
So, I'm sure this is a total n00b question, but since I'm n00 (heh heh) to this, I'll ask.

I went through everything and got to the last step, but when I go to install, I get this

Segmentation Faulttate Information.........1%

](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,)

Any help would be amazingly appretiated!

The segmentation fault you are receiving may be due to a bug in the version of aptitude you are using. I would recommend trying apt-get in place of aptitude and see if apt-get will work for you.


sudo apt-get clean


sudo apt-get update


sudo apt-get install e17

Good luck. Please report back with your results.

Sconeface
January 10th, 2007, 11:33 PM
No go, man. Heres what came up:

rob@Sconebox:~$ sudo apt-get install e17
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
e17: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
Depends: emodules0-all (>= 0.16.999) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: eutils but it is not going to be installed
E: Broken packages


I really appretiate the effort though! Thanks!

finferflu
January 10th, 2007, 11:58 PM
No go, man. Heres what came up:

rob@Sconebox:~$ sudo apt-get install e17
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
e17: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
Depends: emodules0-all (>= 0.16.999) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: eutils but it is not going to be installed
E: Broken packages


I really appretiate the effort though! Thanks!

Have you, by any chance, tried to use aptitude instead of apt-get? Don't know if that makes any difference, but I know that aptitude manages dependencies better...

floke
January 11th, 2007, 12:02 AM
If you allow a window to overlap the shelf (I think I remember trying this a while back actually) - how do you get to the shelf when it's covered? Do you have to resize windows that are above it? It seems like a bit of a hassle. Toi be honest, it's the only thing I don't like about E17, especially since it's pretty much a default feature with the others (KDE, Gnome, XFCE etc.) - you might've thought they would have put it in!

Thanks for the tip though - will try next time I boot into it.

john_spiral
January 13th, 2007, 03:34 AM
Yeeeehaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

Got it working no probs, thanks for the howto!

Nice quick and beautiful.

Lut!n
January 13th, 2007, 10:27 AM
Hay guys, I've some interesting news for those of you who use feisty:
I uploaded yesterday the e17 builds for feisty, both i386 and and64
you can check them out at
deb http://edevelop.org/pkg-e/ubuntu feisty e17
deb-src http://edevelop.org/pkg-e/ubuntu feisty e17

Have fun :)

john_spiral
January 13th, 2007, 05:55 PM
Hi,

I've just installed Enlightenment using the method from this howto.

The 'About Enlightenment' screen shows that I'm using version 0.16.999.037 is this the same as E17?

John

john_spiral
January 13th, 2007, 06:37 PM
Hi,

I've just installed Enlightenment using the method from this howto.

The 'About Enlightenment' screen shows that I'm using version 0.16.999.037 is this the same as E17?

John

I found an answer to my question on the http://www.enlightenment.org/Main/FAQs/#4 site:

"What is the meaning of the release versions: E 17 and DR17 or 0.17?

The full name of the current stable release is "Enlightenment Development Release 0.16.7.2", but people like to shorten it. "E" stands for Enlightenment, while "DR" stands for Development Release. The current stable window manager can be called any of the following, E 0.16.7.2, E 16.7, E16, DR16.7, or DR16 it's all the same thing.

Which you use is a matter of personal preference.

Likewise the full name of the unstable, unreleased version is "Enlightenment Development Release 0.17.0", and people like to shorten that as well, and in the same manner. But, just to confuse the issue, until E17 gets released, it has a version number of 0.16.999.018 or higher."

icefaerie
January 15th, 2007, 01:06 AM
Thanks so much for this HOWTO! I used to run enlightenment on another distro, and I'm so happy to have it again! Everything worked great. Now I just have to get used to the differences between e16 and e17...

Neo40
January 15th, 2007, 01:36 AM
Hi,

I have installed Ubuntu-server 6.10 into my another HDD and I want only E17. So, if I follow this Howto, I think it won't be a problem to install E17. However, if I want Entrance as login manager, how can I install it correctly?

Thanks

kuripot
January 15th, 2007, 04:58 AM
Thanks for the howto. I'm currently using Beryl and just installed e17, and so far I'm liking the responsiveness and the interface, in addition to the eye candy. Beryl was taking up so many resources just opening a terminal was sluggish. I think it was using around 90mb compared to 17.6mb for e17!! (I just used right clicked to bring up the "run command" selection to run the system monitor and it brings up a menu of possible entries, way cool! what program is this? seems like fish but not in a terminal and prettier).

I'm with the above poster about autohiding the shelf, hopefully they add this option in a future release.

Sp4rKy
January 15th, 2007, 08:32 AM
Hi,
@Neo40, please, if you use our repo for install E17 (http://edevelop.org/pkg-e or http://e17.dunnewind.net), please wait about a week.
I've just finish to package entrance 3days ago. Actually it is in review state,ie : we have to be sure it works correctly and it hasn't big bugs.

Anyway, it already works on 2 computers perfectly, so i think it will be validated & included during the next week.

You can get more information at http://e17blog.tuxfamily.org , and in our mailing list :)

tcrroadie
January 15th, 2007, 07:00 PM
Hi,
@Neo40, please, if you use our repo for install E17 (http://edevelop.org/pkg-e or http://e17.dunnewind.net), please wait about a week.
I've just finish to package entrance 3days ago. Actually it is in review state,ie : we have to be sure it works correctly and it hasn't big bugs.

Anyway, it already works on 2 computers perfectly, so i think it will be validated & included during the next week.

You can get more information at http://e17blog.tuxfamily.org , and in our mailing list :)

Thanks for the update on Entrance Sp4rky. I was thinking about compiling and installing Entrance from source to see if I could get it working myself but eventually figured if Entrance is not included in the repo's yet, it must not be quite ready.

I personally think that the Enlightenment team is doing a great job on E17 and thoroughly enjoy using it. Also big thanks for all the hard work packaging E17 for Ubuntu. The team is doing a great job. :)

Sp4rKy
January 15th, 2007, 07:08 PM
Thanks tcrroadie :)

Now just wait for Elbuntu release :D

Frak
January 15th, 2007, 07:14 PM
Thanks tcrroadie :)

Now just wait for Elbuntu release :D
I know alot of people who are waiting for it (i.e. ME)

nekr0z
January 15th, 2007, 09:37 PM
Thanks for the guide, it's really cool and working. The only thing I cannot understand (in E, not the guide) is how do you guys manage wireless network connections in E? I got used to gnome's network-manager applet, so I really miss it in E...

Sp4rKy
January 15th, 2007, 09:43 PM
indeed, there is no network applications intergated in E
Maybe you can use wifi-radar, which is a bit more independant of Gnome :)
And, for me, the best conf util is xterm ^^

nekr0z
January 15th, 2007, 10:03 PM
WiFi radar is actually not more dependable on GNOME than Network-Manager. As the matter of fact, there's native KDE applet for controlling network-manager, too... And I beleive nm-applet would work good in E as well, if only E had some kind of System Tray (or Notification Area or whatever you call it). There are several reasons for me to miss such thing in E, but the wireless issue is the one that hurts most...

Xterm, by the way, really rocks as a conf util, but I'm not that mastered in Linux yet.

finferflu
January 16th, 2007, 12:24 PM
Do you know how to install the Enlightenment applications by any chance?
On the website there's no link, and in the repositories they are not present...

Any idea?

Thanks

tcrroadie
January 16th, 2007, 02:43 PM
Do you know how to install the Enlightenment applications by any chance?
On the website there's no link, and in the repositories they are not present...

Any idea?

Thanks

I believe the main reasoning why many of E17 applications are currently missing from the repositories is because they are not yet finished and are to buggy. Please keep in mind that many of E17's native applications are in heavy development and may not work at all due to changes in E17's own libraries and complete rewrites.

From what Sp4rky noted in an earlier post, E17's login manager Entrance may soon be included in an upcomming repository update. Be patient, in time more applications will come.

If you feel brave enough, you can try installing additional applications from source. Please keep in mind that they may not work. Additional information can be found at the links listed below.

http://www4.get-e.org/EFL_User_Guide/English/_pages/2.1.html

http://enlightenment.freedesktop.org

Sp4rKy
January 16th, 2007, 02:46 PM
You're wrong, many of the EFL apps are integrated in our repo ^^
I think an apt-cache search enlightenment should print you the app.
The eclair app isn't yet in the repo, but it will be integrated in a few days ago (it is in review state, like Entrance).

Like tcrroadie said, much of the EFL app aren't really usuable. So we only integrate those we can use.
Anyway, if you show some EFL based software we hasn't intergated yet, let us know on this topic, or in IRC :)

finferflu
January 16th, 2007, 10:58 PM
You're wrong, many of the EFL apps are integrated in our repo ^^
I think an apt-cache search enlightenment should print you the app.
The eclair app isn't yet in the repo, but it will be integrated in a few days ago (it is in review state, like Entrance).

Like tcrroadie said, much of the EFL app aren't really usuable. So we only integrate those we can use.
Anyway, if you show some EFL based software we hasn't intergated yet, let us know on this topic, or in IRC :)

Ah! Thanks for that! You know I had tried to search for enlightenment using aptitude, but nothing more than Enlightenment and some themes had turned up. With apt-cache search I got a lot more stuff. Good to know..

By the way, I've seen on Elive that there is an awesome feature, the blur transparency, is there any way I can make it work on my install? I've tried to google it a lot, but I couldn't find anything else...

Thanks a lot!

Sp4rKy
January 16th, 2007, 11:01 PM
what do you call blur transparency ? any screenshot ?

kcallis
January 17th, 2007, 07:57 AM
I guess the biggest thing for me, is not how to install E, but more importantly some pointers on how to make E more functional. For instance, the download and installation of E was not a problem. But once I get inside the E wm, my issue becomes how do I make it function with some of the previous functionality that I had in Metacity?

That is just my $0.02 worth of comment!

K.

finferflu
January 17th, 2007, 01:21 PM
what do you call blur transparency ? any screenshot ?

Here you go: http://elivecd.org/gb/Main/Screenshots/E17/_previews/blur-01.jpg.html

tcrroadie
January 17th, 2007, 06:40 PM
I guess the biggest thing for me, is not how to install E, but more importantly some pointers on how to make E more functional. For instance, the download and installation of E was not a problem. But once I get inside the E wm, my issue becomes how do I make it function with some of the previous functionality that I had in Metacity?

That is just my $0.02 worth of comment!

K.

Hi Kcallis. Could you please elaborate on the functionality you speak of between Metacity and E17? My personal needs are very simple. In E17 you can shade windows, alt+tab to select windows and easily move between other desktops. Even E's own menu helps you manage open windows.

I'm just a little curious as to what people really have to say about the usability of E17. Lately I have been coming across some post with statements that E17 is awkward to use. I suppose it is all just personal preference.

Sp4rKy
January 17th, 2007, 06:45 PM
I guess the biggest thing for me, is not how to install E, but more importantly some pointers on how to make E more functional. For instance, the download and installation of E was not a problem. But once I get inside the E wm, my issue becomes how do I make it function with some of the previous functionality that I had in Metacity?

That is just my $0.02 worth of comment!

K.

Remember E isn't Gnome nor KDE . You don't have and you will never have all the gadget's included in those DM.
For configuration/management of E, i think the best way is a left click on the desktop=> configuration

Good luck ^^:twisted:

Hendrixski
January 17th, 2007, 06:47 PM
I guess the biggest thing for me, is not how to install E, but more importantly some pointers on how to make E more functional. For instance, the download and installation of E was not a problem. But once I get inside the E wm, my issue becomes how do I make it function with some of the previous functionality that I had in Metacity?

That is just my $0.02 worth of comment!

K.

Everything is configurable (even though not everything works perfectly yet). If you play around with the hundreds of settings, and dozen or so settings tools, you can get it to do pretty much anything you want.

Mind you, this is still a developers release, so while I have it installed on my laptop, I wouldn't use it at work.

Sp4rKy
January 17th, 2007, 09:22 PM
Here you go: http://elivecd.org/gb/Main/Screenshots/E17/_previews/blur-01.jpg.html

hmm, after some request on #e channel, this kind of transparency seems depend of the term, and not E :)

finferflu
January 18th, 2007, 01:25 AM
hmm, after some request on #e channel, this kind of transparency seems depend of the term, and not E :)

Ah! Is that Eterm, xterm? I find it very hard to get terminal transparency on E17, actually I have given it up for an animated wallpaper...

Thanks!

Sp4rKy
January 18th, 2007, 01:28 AM
animated wallpaper is pretty easy :)
maybe xterm, with pseudo-transparency. Not xterm ...

So good nught guys :)

Chouca
January 18th, 2007, 04:40 PM
Excellent Guide!!!

I have now made the journey Ubuntu --> Xubuntu --> ICEwm --> E17 and it is getting better and better :)

The Installation of E17, by the How To, was very smooth and the first impression of E17 is Wow - why fuzz around with other lightweight alternatives when E17 is both fast and beautiful!!!



Martin

finferflu
January 18th, 2007, 09:37 PM
The Installation of E17, by the How To, was very smooth and the first impression of E17 is Wow - why fuzz around with other lightweight alternatives when E17 is both fast and beautiful!!!


That's also my point! :D

kopinux
January 19th, 2007, 02:18 AM
i've been looking for a dr17 distro, and i never thought i could install it very easily with ubuntu, the guide works perfect with ubuntu dapper, ubuntu edgy and kubuntu edgy.

but i think i like the dr17 kubuntu base since it does not have any bulky windows. it matched the dr17 themes. though i would really like the ps3-linux-ydl look, its the main reason why im looking for dr17. this is great and easy im gonna use this for a long time. both kde and gnome feels like windows, dr17 is kinda unique and kick the windows habit and more easier to use.

nsleiman
January 19th, 2007, 09:31 AM
the HowTo worked like a charm. E17 is really great and i like it. i am only missing the volume manager, think i will work more on it.

Great work :)

finferflu
January 19th, 2007, 11:23 AM
the HowTo worked like a charm. E17 is really great and i like it. i am only missing the volume manager, think i will work more on it.

Great work :)

There is a module for the volume manager, it's called mixer, you have to enable it in the modules configuration, and then you'll be able to add it to your shelf. You can also associate an application to it, so that when you middle-click on it, the app will start. For instance, I've used kmix. It's perfect.

Enjoy!

nsleiman
January 19th, 2007, 11:37 AM
thank you very much! module is loaded and gadget running,still can not configure it to launch Kmix. any idea what the 'configure' button not working ?

Lut!n
January 19th, 2007, 12:42 PM
the 'configure' button in the modules panel is disabled because this module handles a per-shelf config (that means, you can a mixer launching kmix, another launching xmms or whatever if you want). you have to right-click on the module in the shelf and click 'configure', then you'll be able to configure it.

Have fun :)

AgenT
January 21st, 2007, 02:22 AM
It should be noted that Eterm does pseudo transparency and is able to have a custom background, at least it did around 4 years ago. However, Eterm does not seem to be maintained anymore and even E17 no longer uses it. Try a different terminal emulator. There are a lot, but not all support transparency due to it not being very useful and just adding "bloat". Look into rxvt-unicode, mrxvt and aterm. There are more, so search freshmeat and sourceforge.

abrand15
January 21st, 2007, 04:56 AM
I'm using Edgy and got the following error when trying this HOWTO:

dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of e17:
e17 depends on emodules0-all (>= 0.16.999); however:
Package emodules0-all is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing e17 (--configure):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
...
Errors were encountered while processing:
emodule0-language
emodules0-all
e17
Can someone help me?

Cheers,
Allan

Lut!n
January 22nd, 2007, 12:58 AM
what is the message when you try to install emodules0-all ?

abrand15
January 22nd, 2007, 06:13 AM
Solved it with the following:

sudo dpkg -i --force-all "/var/cache/apt/archives/libexml1_0.1.1+cvs20070110-1_i386.deb"

E17 now installs just fine.

Cheers,
Allan

john_spiral
January 23rd, 2007, 10:03 PM
Have any e17 crack heads out there built the latest version of Enlightenment?

http://enlightenment.org/Enlightenment/Get_Enlightenment/Build_Notes/

On another note does anyone know any good e17 theme sites?

Lut!n
January 24th, 2007, 12:22 AM
Have any e17 crack heads out there built the latest version of Enlightenment?

http://enlightenment.org/Enlightenment/Get_Enlightenment/Build_Notes/

What do you mean ? The version in the repos is recent, there haven't been any major changes in 2 weeks :)


On another note does anyone know any good e17 theme sites?
get-e.org :)

finferflu
January 24th, 2007, 01:28 AM
Unfortunately there are not many themes... but hey! this is pre-alpha release (have I read correctly?). To be in such an early state and being so wonderful I seriously wonder what the final product will be... I think I'll start buying t-shirts and gadgets at that time :P

Kratos
January 24th, 2007, 04:40 AM
I'm having time-out issues with the repository. Anyone else?


Err http://edevelop.org edgy Release.gpg
Could not connect to edevelop.org:80 (67.138.240.42), connection timed out

john_spiral
January 24th, 2007, 02:32 PM
What do you mean ? The version in the repos is recent, there haven't been any major changes in 2 weeks :)


get-e.org :)

Alright I'll hang off until there is something more delicious to install.

Every now and again E17 crashes when I choose a particular GUI option. Is there a site where I can submit such bugs?

http://www.bugzilla.org/ doesn't seem to have anything?

Any other sites besides get-e.org for themes?

Edit:

I've just discovered:

http://www.enlightenment.org/Main/Debugging/

But there doesn't seem to be any noob friendly bug submitting tools/sites.

J.Pulumbarit
January 25th, 2007, 05:12 AM
I'm having time-out issues with the repository. Anyone else?


Err http://edevelop.org edgy Release.gpg
Could not connect to edevelop.org:80 (67.138.240.42), connection timed out


same problem here... any ideas on when it will be back up/ any other options?

st1ck3m_tux
January 25th, 2007, 06:39 AM
I have been trying for a couple of days with no luck. It just times out. :confused:

J.Pulumbarit
January 25th, 2007, 06:50 AM
i guess ill just wait it out then...

st1ck3m_tux
January 25th, 2007, 09:46 AM
Hi all! Just found a different Repo to install from. This one is really fast. I have E 17 up and running with no problems. Here is the link for instructions...

http://e17blog.tuxfamily.org/e17blog-edgy_en.php/post/2006/12/05/Enlightenment-Repositories-for-Ubuntu-Edgy-Eft

I used the second repo which is...

## E17 Repository "e17.dunnewind.net"
deb http://e17.dunnewind.net/ubuntu edgy e17
deb-src http://e17.dunnewind.net/ubuntu edgy e17


Hope that this helps. :D

tcrroadie
January 25th, 2007, 05:30 PM
I used the second repo which is...

## E17 Repository "e17.dunnewind.net"
deb http://e17.dunnewind.net/ubuntu edgy e17
deb-src http://e17.dunnewind.net/ubuntu edgy e17


Hope that this helps. :D

Thanks for posting the information on the second available Elbuntu repository. I have been meaning to add the dunnewind.net repositories to the install guide, but ran into issues with the dunnwind.net server running slow during testing. I may be wrong but I believe that the Elbuntu developers may be moving to using only the dunnewind.net server in the future. I'll check the dunnewind repository when I get a chance and edit the install guide as necessary.

I also believe that the dunnwind.net repositories are a mirror of the repositories located at edevelop.org, so they both should be in sync.

Also as a reminder, if there are any issues encountered when installing E17 in regardes to dependency errors or servers down, please try to contact Lutin or Sp4rKy on IRC. #elbuntu on irc.freenode.net

Thanks :)

J.Pulumbarit
January 25th, 2007, 09:00 PM
sweet im at school right now but as soon as i get home im going to try them out. thanks for the info.

J.Pulumbarit
January 26th, 2007, 01:16 AM
Install Enlightenment :

sudo apt-get install enlightenment e17 e17-devel-extras emodule-alarm emodule-cpu emodule-deskshow emodule-flame emodule-language emodule-mail emodule-mem emodule-mixer emodule-moon emodule-net emodule-photo emodule-rain emodule-screenshot emodule-slideshow emodule-snow emodule-taskbar emodule-tclock emodule-uptime emodule-weather emodule-winselector emodule-wlan

after doing that i got this...

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Package enlightenment is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
However the following packages replace it:
enlightenment-data
E: Package enlightenment has no installation candidate

=/ i tried enlightenment-data and got the same error except without telling me which packages replace it.

finferflu
January 26th, 2007, 02:33 AM
after doing that i got this...

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Package enlightenment is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
However the following packages replace it:
enlightenment-data
E: Package enlightenment has no installation candidate

=/ i tried enlightenment-data and got the same error except without telling me which packages replace it.

Where did you get that quote from? To install e17 you should only do


sudo aptitude install e17

J.Pulumbarit
January 26th, 2007, 03:22 AM
i got the quote from here: http://e17blog.tuxfamily.org/e17blog...buntu-Edgy-Eft
i used that howto cause the repositories for this howto arent working right now

finferflu
January 26th, 2007, 03:25 AM
i got the quote from here: http://e17blog.tuxfamily.org/e17blog...buntu-Edgy-Eft
i used that howto cause the repositories for this howto arent working right now


Not Found

The requested URL /e17blog...buntu-Edgy-Eft was not found on this server.
I think that's due to copy-paste, anyways...

However, if you try to install the package enlightenment alongside the package e17, is like you're installing Enlightenment DR16 and DR17 at the same time, no wonder you get that error. Try not to use the package enlightenment and see how it goes.

J.Pulumbarit
January 26th, 2007, 05:15 AM
Where did you get that quote from? To install e17 you should only do


sudo aptitude install e17

i didnt notice it was aptitude instead of apt-get, that helped alot.
after it tells me how much space is going to be used and i agree it says this:
Segmentation fault (core dumped)on... 1%
what does that mean?

Beej
January 26th, 2007, 10:57 AM
Does anybody know of any working repos for edgy? Ive tried the edevelop and the dunnewind repos and can't get either to work, timeout errors for both.

Lut!n
January 26th, 2007, 01:09 PM
You should try again, dunnewind.net seems to work fine here (c)

Beej
January 26th, 2007, 02:05 PM
Cool, I'll give it another go when i get home

tcrroadie
January 26th, 2007, 05:44 PM
i didnt notice it was aptitude instead of apt-get, that helped alot.
after it tells me how much space is going to be used and i agree it says this:
Segmentation fault (core dumped)on... 1%
what does that mean?

Are you using Dapper Drake? Try using apt-get in place of aptitude and post your results.


sudo apt-get install e17

The error you are receiving may be due to a bug in aptitude.

J.Pulumbarit
January 26th, 2007, 08:04 PM
Are you using Dapper Drake? Try using apt-get in place of aptitude and post your results.


sudo apt-get install e17

The error you are receiving may be due to a bug in aptitude.

im on edgy, i tried to use apt-get and i got some other error about not being installable, im at school right now but i can give more information when i get home.

L_V
January 30th, 2007, 11:55 AM
Small clarification request:

"Enlightenment's current design aim is to become a desktop shell. That means it will manage your application windows, being able to launch applications, and also manage your files. "

Today, can E17 be installed on a base installation without any gnome or KDE ?

finferflu
January 30th, 2007, 01:16 PM
Small clarification request:

"Enlightenment's current design aim is to become a desktop shell. That means it will manage your application windows, being able to launch applications, and also manage your files. "

Today, can E17 be installed on a base installation without any gnome or KDE ?


It is currently in a pre-alpha stage and is under heavy development.

In any ways, I don't think that's particularly recommended...

L_V
January 30th, 2007, 02:27 PM
Ok E17 is an alpha, but this does not clarify the question.

What is a window manager without a desktop manager ?
Is it possible to use, today, E17 without any desktop manager ?
If not, what minimum part of desktop manager is necessary for E17 ?

Never got clear answer on that one.

finferflu
January 30th, 2007, 04:28 PM
Ok E17 is an alpha, but this does not clarify the question.

What is a window manager without a desktop manager ?
Is it possible to use, today, E17 without any desktop manager ?
If not, what minimum part of desktop manager is necessary for E17 ?

Never got clear answer on that one.

I know, I hadn't answered because I didn't know the answer.. I've done some research though, and found out that you can use a Windows Manager without the need of a Desktop Environment. I guess the main advantage of a DE is that all applications share the same libraries, so everything should be quicker to start up, and use less disk space. Not sure about any other advantage. As for a WM, you can use it to manage everything you decide to install, since there aren't many applications that come with a WM. With E17 you've got a basic file manager and the xterm. I guess that's it.

You could also give a look to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment

Enjoy!

L_V
January 30th, 2007, 04:54 PM
Ok but the progress on enlightment is so slow (already more than 6 years ?) and basic information so difficult to find (how to configure a minimum etc...) that I think I will wait.
Not yet clear to me the added value of this new one (compared to XFCe etc...)

My main concern for the moment is the quality of fonts in linux (not clean at all compared to windows, even with gnome or KDE), more than looking for funny icons !

tcrroadie
January 30th, 2007, 06:49 PM
Ok E17 is an alpha, but this does not clarify the question.

What is a window manager without a desktop manager ?
Is it possible to use, today, E17 without any desktop manager ?
If not, what minimum part of desktop manager is necessary for E17 ?

Never got clear answer on that one.

The classic sence of a Window Manager is just that, it manages application windows. Think Fluxbox, Icewm, Window Maker.

Enlightenment E17 is aiming to be more than just a basic Window Manager, hence the term Desktop Shell. E17 will eventually have its own fully functional file manager, media player and image viewer/editor. Most of E17's applications such as the file manager Entropy and the log in manager Entrance are partly finished and working but not always recommended for everyday use.


Is it possible to use, today, E17 without any desktop manager ?

You bet. Enlightenment E17 is its own working environment. E17 includeds a configuration panel for easily changing themes, fonts, wallpapers, screen resolution, loaded modules, window management options, number of available desktops, and more. Once you install E17 onto your system you just select Enlightenment from your session manager located in GDM (Gnome's log-in manager).

If you desire you can use Gnome (GTK) and KDE (QT) applications in E17. Firefox and Thunar are GTK applications and work wonderfully in E17.


Not yet clear to me the added value of this new one (compared to XFCe etc...)

To me Enlightenment E17's added value over other window managers and desktop environments such as XFCE, is it's speed, simplicity, and of course its looks. Just to give you an example of just how light E17 is, I did a command line install of Ubuntu with just E17, Firefox, Thunar and XMMS installed. After booting up into the E17 desktop my system was only using an incredible 68mb's of ram. After launching Firefox my use was just over 100mb.

I would highly recommend just installing E17 and giving a try for at least 1 week. The installation process is very easy. If E17 is not for you, you can easily remove it.

Also, you can easily change GTK themes by using an application called gtk-theme-switch. You can install it using synaptic or in a terminal with


sudo aptitude install gtk-theme-switch

Then in a terminal you can launch gtk-theme-switch with the command


switch2

More information on Enlightenment E17 and its related applications can be found at get-e.org.

http://www3.get-e.org/

As far as fonts on Linux, I think the default fonts used on Ubuntu look fantastic compared to Windows XP.

I am also posting a couple of screen captures of E17 taken from my system over the past month. Maybe they will help encourage you.

L_V
January 30th, 2007, 09:45 PM
Impressive result !
Thank you for your long and very detailed feedback.

BTW, could you help me to identify the right Enlightment sources.list for Debian Etch (the one I use to try).
Thanks.

EDIT: I found the debs !
http://seerofsouls.com/dists/edgy/e17/binary-i386/

tcrroadie
January 30th, 2007, 10:07 PM
Impressive result !
Thank you for your long and very detailed feedback.

BTW, could you help me to identify the right Enlightment sources.list for Debian Etch (the one I use to try).
Thanks.

EDIT: I found the debs !
http://seerofsouls.com/dists/edgy/e17/binary-i386/

Are you currently using Debian Etch? The repository link you listed states that it is for Ubuntu Edgy. You can give it a try but it may not fully work on your system.

Also the repsitory listed uses packages that are much older than the repositories supplied by the Elbuntu team. The Elbuntu team tries to keep current with the CVS snapshots of E17 so they are very recent. It looks like the Elbuntu repsitories were last updated Jan 26 2007. The repository you listed is very old, Oct 10 2006.

If you are also using Ubuntu, are you having any trouble installing E17?

:confused:

Xummoner
January 30th, 2007, 10:16 PM
I'm getting errors using both apt-get and aptitude, Here's what I get using both (hope someone can help me) I've been trying to install all kinds of eyecandy since I got Ubuntu a couple of months ago with no success at all.


david@David-Desktop:~$ sudo aptitude install e17
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading extended state information
Initialising package states... Done
Building tag database... Done
The following packages are BROKEN:
e17 emodule0-alarm emodule0-cpu emodule0-deskshow emodule0-flame
emodule0-language emodule0-mail emodule0-mem emodule0-mixer emodule0-moon
emodule0-net emodule0-photo emodule0-rain emodule0-screenshot
emodule0-slideshow emodule0-snow emodule0-taskbar emodule0-tclock
emodule0-uptime emodule0-weather emodule0-winselector emodule0-wlan
emodules0-all
The following NEW packages will be automatically installed:
enlightenment-theme enlightenment-theme-cthulhain
enlightenment-theme-darkness enlightenment-theme-kor
enlightenment-theme-milky enlightenment-theme-simply-white eutils
libecore1 libecore1-con libecore1-config libecore1-dbus libecore1-desktop
libecore1-evas libecore1-fb libecore1-file libecore1-ipc libecore1-job
libecore1-txt libecore1-x libevas1 libevas1-loader-eet
libevas1-loader-gif libevas1-loader-jpeg libevas1-loader-png
libevas1-loader-tiff libevas1-loader-xpm libevas1-loaders-all libexml1
The following NEW packages will be installed:
enlightenment-theme enlightenment-theme-cthulhain
enlightenment-theme-darkness enlightenment-theme-kor
enlightenment-theme-milky enlightenment-theme-simply-white eutils
libecore1 libecore1-con libecore1-config libecore1-dbus libecore1-desktop
libecore1-evas libecore1-fb libecore1-file libecore1-ipc libecore1-job
libecore1-txt libecore1-x libevas1 libevas1-loader-eet
libevas1-loader-gif libevas1-loader-jpeg libevas1-loader-png
libevas1-loader-tiff libevas1-loader-xpm libevas1-loaders-all libexml1
0 packages upgraded, 51 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 16.0MB of archives. After unpacking 22.6MB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
emodule0-screenshot: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
emodule0-wlan: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
emodule0-language: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
emodules0-all: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-mail: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
e17: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-photo: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
emodule0-deskshow: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
emodule0-taskbar: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
emodule0-flame: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
emodule0-moon: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
emodule0-mixer: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
emodule0-rain: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
emodule0-cpu: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
emodule0-uptime: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
emodule0-mem: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
emodule0-net: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
emodule0-tclock: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
emodule0-snow: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
emodule0-winselector: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
emodule0-slideshow: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
emodule0-alarm: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
emodule0-weather: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
Resolving dependencies...
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

Install the following packages:
enlightenment [1:0.16.7.2-3ubuntu1 (dapper)]
enlightenment-data [1:0.16.7.2-3ubuntu1 (dapper)]
menu [2.1.27 (dapper)]

Score is -197

Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] Y
WARNING: untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed!

Untrusted packages could compromise your system's security.
You should only proceed with the installation if you are certain that
this is what you want to do.

emodule0-screenshot libecore1-desktop emodule0-wlan
enlightenment-theme-simply-white libevas1-loader-eet libecore1-x
libevas1-loader-gif libecore1-file emodule0-language libecore1-con
libecore1-evas libevas1-loader-png libecore1-ipc libexml1 libecore1-job
libecore1 libevas1-loader-jpeg libecore1-config
enlightenment-theme-darkness enlightenment-theme-kor emodules0-all
emodule0-mail libevas1-loader-xpm libevas1-loaders-all e17 emodule0-photo
libecore1-txt emodule0-deskshow emodule0-taskbar emodule0-flame
emodule0-moon emodule0-mixer emodule0-rain emodule0-cpu emodule0-uptime
libecore1-fb emodule0-mem emodule0-net libevas1-loader-tiff
emodule0-tclock emodule0-snow emodule0-winselector emodule0-slideshow
enlightenment-theme-cthulhain libecore1-dbus enlightenment-theme-milky
enlightenment-theme emodule0-alarm eutils libevas1 emodule0-weather

Do you want to ignore this warning and proceed anyway?
To continue, enter "Yes"; to abort, enter "No": Yes
The following NEW packages will be automatically installed:
emodule0-alarm emodule0-cpu emodule0-deskshow emodule0-flame
emodule0-language emodule0-mail emodule0-mem emodule0-mixer emodule0-moon
emodule0-net emodule0-photo emodule0-rain emodule0-screenshot
emodule0-slideshow emodule0-snow emodule0-taskbar emodule0-tclock
emodule0-uptime emodule0-weather emodule0-winselector emodule0-wlan
emodules0-all enlightenment enlightenment-data enlightenment-theme
enlightenment-theme-cthulhain enlightenment-theme-darkness
enlightenment-theme-kor enlightenment-theme-milky
enlightenment-theme-simply-white eutils libecore1 libecore1-con
libecore1-config libecore1-dbus libecore1-desktop libecore1-evas
libecore1-fb libecore1-file libecore1-ipc libecore1-job libecore1-txt
libecore1-x libevas1 libevas1-loader-eet libevas1-loader-gif
libevas1-loader-jpeg libevas1-loader-png libevas1-loader-tiff
libevas1-loader-xpm libevas1-loaders-all libexml1 menu
The following NEW packages will be installed:
e17 emodule0-alarm emodule0-cpu emodule0-deskshow emodule0-flame
emodule0-language emodule0-mail emodule0-mem emodule0-mixer emodule0-moon
emodule0-net emodule0-photo emodule0-rain emodule0-screenshot
emodule0-slideshow emodule0-snow emodule0-taskbar emodule0-tclock
emodule0-uptime emodule0-weather emodule0-winselector emodule0-wlan
emodules0-all enlightenment enlightenment-data enlightenment-theme
enlightenment-theme-cthulhain enlightenment-theme-darkness
enlightenment-theme-kor enlightenment-theme-milky
enlightenment-theme-simply-white eutils libecore1 libecore1-con
libecore1-config libecore1-dbus libecore1-desktop libecore1-evas
libecore1-fb libecore1-file libecore1-ipc libecore1-job libecore1-txt
libecore1-x libevas1 libevas1-loader-eet libevas1-loader-gif
libevas1-loader-jpeg libevas1-loader-png libevas1-loader-tiff
libevas1-loader-xpm libevas1-loaders-all libexml1 menu
0 packages upgraded, 54 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 19.4MB of archives. After unpacking 30.3MB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] Y
WARNING: untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed!

Untrusted packages could compromise your system's security.
You should only proceed with the installation if you are certain that
this is what you want to do.

emodule0-screenshot libecore1-desktop emodule0-wlan
enlightenment-theme-simply-white libevas1-loader-eet libecore1-x
libevas1-loader-gif libecore1-file emodule0-language libecore1-con
libecore1-evas libevas1-loader-png libecore1-ipc libexml1 libecore1-job
libecore1 libevas1-loader-jpeg libecore1-config
enlightenment-theme-darkness enlightenment-theme-kor emodules0-all
emodule0-mail libevas1-loader-xpm libevas1-loaders-all e17 emodule0-photo
libecore1-txt emodule0-deskshow emodule0-taskbar emodule0-flame
emodule0-moon emodule0-mixer emodule0-rain emodule0-cpu emodule0-uptime
libecore1-fb emodule0-mem emodule0-net libevas1-loader-tiff
emodule0-tclock emodule0-snow emodule0-winselector emodule0-slideshow
enlightenment-theme-cthulhain libecore1-dbus enlightenment-theme-milky
enlightenment-theme emodule0-alarm eutils libevas1 emodule0-weather

Do you want to ignore this warning and proceed anyway?
To continue, enter "Yes"; to abort, enter "No": Yes
Segmentation faulttate information... 1%


david@David-Desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install e17
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies.
e17: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
Depends: emodules0-all (>= 0.16.999) but it is not going to be installed
E: Broken packages

nekr0z
January 30th, 2007, 10:34 PM
As far as fonts on Linux, I think the default fonts used on Ubuntu look fantastic compared to Windows XP.

I would love to hang the bastard that invented these fonts in the boiling oil... How come, that the default fonts lack unicode cyrillic letters and just display empty squares instead?

I have installed E17 on an Edgy machine with Russian default locale (which never caused any problems), and found E totally unusable because of the default fonts. Even more, I couldn't change the fonts, because to do it I would have to go through some menus — and all the menus had all the items looking as one, so I could only guess where I should click...

tcrroadie
January 30th, 2007, 10:36 PM
Xummoner,

Do you have a previous installation of Enlightenment E16 installed?

It looks to me as if apt is try to install E16 along with E17.

If you have previously installed E16 try this.


sudo apt-get --purge remove enlightenment

Then


sudo apt-get clean


sudo apt-get update


sudo apt-get install e17


If you still run into the same error, try commenting out the regular Ubuntu repositories so that apt only sees the Elbuntu repository available. Then try installing E17 again.

Run the above three commands again.

Please post back with your results. I have noticed that there are some other Dapper users that are running into the same error that you are.

If I have time tonight, I will do a test install of E17 on a Dapper system and get back. Currently I have only installed E17 using Elbuntu's repositories on Edgy.

Xummoner
January 31st, 2007, 12:23 AM
I'm still getting the same errors after editing the sources list. Synaptic won't install it either, it gives a warning about the packages "enlightenment (>= 0.16.999)" and "emodules0-all", says that they can't be installed and then nothing happens.

tcrroadie
January 31st, 2007, 01:09 AM
I'm still getting the same errors after editing the sources list. Synaptic won't install it either, it gives a warning about the packages "enlightenment (>= 0.16.999)" and "emodules0-all", says that they can't be installed and then nothing happens.

There are two things that you can do at this point.

1. Contact the Elbuntu developers on the Elbuntu IRC chat channel at irc.freenode.net
Contact Lutin or Sp4rKy on #elbuntu and let them know about your installation problem on your
Dapper system. There may be a packaging issue for Dapper.

2. You could upgrade your system to Edgy. Their binary packages install flawlessly on Edgy.

Sorry I couldn't help more at this point.

Lut!n
January 31st, 2007, 02:21 AM
I'm still getting the same errors after editing the sources list. Synaptic won't install it either, it gives a warning about the packages "enlightenment (>= 0.16.999)" and "emodules0-all", says that they can't be installed and then nothing happens.

The point is, it seems your system is not able to install the enlightenment package.
This could be a wrong pin in /etc/apt/preferences, or some other trouble which I'm not aware of yet

Please post here the log when you try install the enlightenment package, and I'd be more likely able to help you

Cheers
Lut!n

ps: thanks tcrroadie for what you're doing on that topic :)

PPS, as a general notice for users having problems: Post a log that just says 'unable to do it' is quite useless. If you can, look into the log and see what package is causing the error. Then, paste here the log when trying to install this particular package. That'd help really us to fix issues much more quickly. thanks :)

tcrroadie
January 31st, 2007, 04:37 AM
PPS, as a general notice for users having problems: Post a log that just says 'unable to do it' is quite useless. If you can, look into the log and see what package is causing the error. Then, paste here the log when trying to install this particular package. That'd help really us to fix issues much more quickly. thanks :)

Thanks for the heads up Lut!n.:) I myself am still new at trying to problem solve issues with installing binaray packages with apt.

Other than the output of apt, what log should users post when they encounter installation issues? In /var/log ?

Thanks.

J.Pulumbarit
January 31st, 2007, 04:54 AM
So i still get this error

Segmentation fault (core dumped)on... 1%

attached is a file with the full text of what happens leading to the error

Lut!n
January 31st, 2007, 07:41 AM
So i still get this error

Segmentation fault (core dumped)on... 1%

attached is a file with the full text of what happens leading to the error

Hehe, forgot that. for tracking issues, aptitude is evil (tm). Please provide apt-get logs instead. Besides, it's what I meant in my previous post: in your log, we can see

emodules0-all: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable which makes me think of some problem with the 'enlightenment' package installation. Then, please provide the log when trying to install only this particular package.
Thanks :)
Lut!n

adil_uk
January 31st, 2007, 10:57 PM
I'm getting errors using both apt-get and aptitude, Here's what I get using both (hope someone can help me) I've been trying to install all kinds of eyecandy since I got Ubuntu a couple of months ago with no success at all.


david@David-Desktop:~$ sudo aptitude install e17
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading extended state information
Initialising package states... Done
Building tag database... Done
The following packages are BROKEN:
e17 emodule0-alarm emodule0-cpu emodule0-deskshow emodule0-flame
emodule0-language emodule0-mail emodule0-mem emodule0-mixer emodule0-moon
emodule0-net emodule0-photo emodule0-rain emodule0-screenshot
emodule0-slideshow emodule0-snow emodule0-taskbar emodule0-tclock
emodule0-uptime emodule0-weather emodule0-winselector emodule0-wlan
emodules0-all
The following NEW packages will be automatically installed:
enlightenment-theme enlightenment-theme-cthulhain
enlightenment-theme-darkness enlightenment-theme-kor
enlightenment-theme-milky enlightenment-theme-simply-white eutils
libecore1 libecore1-con libecore1-config libecore1-dbus libecore1-desktop
libecore1-evas libecore1-fb libecore1-file libecore1-ipc libecore1-job
libecore1-txt libecore1-x libevas1 libevas1-loader-eet
libevas1-loader-gif libevas1-loader-jpeg libevas1-loader-png
libevas1-loader-tiff libevas1-loader-xpm libevas1-loaders-all libexml1
The following NEW packages will be installed:
enlightenment-theme enlightenment-theme-cthulhain
enlightenment-theme-darkness enlightenment-theme-kor
enlightenment-theme-milky enlightenment-theme-simply-white eutils
libecore1 libecore1-con libecore1-config libecore1-dbus libecore1-desktop
libecore1-evas libecore1-fb libecore1-file libecore1-ipc libecore1-job
libecore1-txt libecore1-x libevas1 libevas1-loader-eet
libevas1-loader-gif libevas1-loader-jpeg libevas1-loader-png
libevas1-loader-tiff libevas1-loader-xpm libevas1-loaders-all libexml1
0 packages upgraded, 51 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 16.0MB of archives. After unpacking 22.6MB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
emodule0-screenshot: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
emodule0-wlan: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
emodule0-language: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
emodules0-all: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-mail: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
e17: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-photo: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
emodule0-deskshow: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
emodule0-taskbar: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
emodule0-flame: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
emodule0-moon: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
emodule0-mixer: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
emodule0-rain: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
emodule0-cpu: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
emodule0-uptime: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
emodule0-mem: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
emodule0-net: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
emodule0-tclock: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
emodule0-snow: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
emodule0-winselector: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
emodule0-slideshow: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
emodule0-alarm: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
emodule0-weather: Depends: enlightenment but it is not installable
Resolving dependencies...
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

Install the following packages:
enlightenment [1:0.16.7.2-3ubuntu1 (dapper)]
enlightenment-data [1:0.16.7.2-3ubuntu1 (dapper)]
menu [2.1.27 (dapper)]

Score is -197

Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] Y
WARNING: untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed!

Untrusted packages could compromise your system's security.
You should only proceed with the installation if you are certain that
this is what you want to do.

emodule0-screenshot libecore1-desktop emodule0-wlan
enlightenment-theme-simply-white libevas1-loader-eet libecore1-x
libevas1-loader-gif libecore1-file emodule0-language libecore1-con
libecore1-evas libevas1-loader-png libecore1-ipc libexml1 libecore1-job
libecore1 libevas1-loader-jpeg libecore1-config
enlightenment-theme-darkness enlightenment-theme-kor emodules0-all
emodule0-mail libevas1-loader-xpm libevas1-loaders-all e17 emodule0-photo
libecore1-txt emodule0-deskshow emodule0-taskbar emodule0-flame
emodule0-moon emodule0-mixer emodule0-rain emodule0-cpu emodule0-uptime
libecore1-fb emodule0-mem emodule0-net libevas1-loader-tiff
emodule0-tclock emodule0-snow emodule0-winselector emodule0-slideshow
enlightenment-theme-cthulhain libecore1-dbus enlightenment-theme-milky
enlightenment-theme emodule0-alarm eutils libevas1 emodule0-weather

Do you want to ignore this warning and proceed anyway?
To continue, enter "Yes"; to abort, enter "No": Yes
The following NEW packages will be automatically installed:
emodule0-alarm emodule0-cpu emodule0-deskshow emodule0-flame
emodule0-language emodule0-mail emodule0-mem emodule0-mixer emodule0-moon
emodule0-net emodule0-photo emodule0-rain emodule0-screenshot
emodule0-slideshow emodule0-snow emodule0-taskbar emodule0-tclock
emodule0-uptime emodule0-weather emodule0-winselector emodule0-wlan
emodules0-all enlightenment enlightenment-data enlightenment-theme
enlightenment-theme-cthulhain enlightenment-theme-darkness
enlightenment-theme-kor enlightenment-theme-milky
enlightenment-theme-simply-white eutils libecore1 libecore1-con
libecore1-config libecore1-dbus libecore1-desktop libecore1-evas
libecore1-fb libecore1-file libecore1-ipc libecore1-job libecore1-txt
libecore1-x libevas1 libevas1-loader-eet libevas1-loader-gif
libevas1-loader-jpeg libevas1-loader-png libevas1-loader-tiff
libevas1-loader-xpm libevas1-loaders-all libexml1 menu
The following NEW packages will be installed:
e17 emodule0-alarm emodule0-cpu emodule0-deskshow emodule0-flame
emodule0-language emodule0-mail emodule0-mem emodule0-mixer emodule0-moon
emodule0-net emodule0-photo emodule0-rain emodule0-screenshot
emodule0-slideshow emodule0-snow emodule0-taskbar emodule0-tclock
emodule0-uptime emodule0-weather emodule0-winselector emodule0-wlan
emodules0-all enlightenment enlightenment-data enlightenment-theme
enlightenment-theme-cthulhain enlightenment-theme-darkness
enlightenment-theme-kor enlightenment-theme-milky
enlightenment-theme-simply-white eutils libecore1 libecore1-con
libecore1-config libecore1-dbus libecore1-desktop libecore1-evas
libecore1-fb libecore1-file libecore1-ipc libecore1-job libecore1-txt
libecore1-x libevas1 libevas1-loader-eet libevas1-loader-gif
libevas1-loader-jpeg libevas1-loader-png libevas1-loader-tiff
libevas1-loader-xpm libevas1-loaders-all libexml1 menu
0 packages upgraded, 54 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 19.4MB of archives. After unpacking 30.3MB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] Y
WARNING: untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed!

Untrusted packages could compromise your system's security.
You should only proceed with the installation if you are certain that
this is what you want to do.

emodule0-screenshot libecore1-desktop emodule0-wlan
enlightenment-theme-simply-white libevas1-loader-eet libecore1-x
libevas1-loader-gif libecore1-file emodule0-language libecore1-con
libecore1-evas libevas1-loader-png libecore1-ipc libexml1 libecore1-job
libecore1 libevas1-loader-jpeg libecore1-config
enlightenment-theme-darkness enlightenment-theme-kor emodules0-all
emodule0-mail libevas1-loader-xpm libevas1-loaders-all e17 emodule0-photo
libecore1-txt emodule0-deskshow emodule0-taskbar emodule0-flame
emodule0-moon emodule0-mixer emodule0-rain emodule0-cpu emodule0-uptime
libecore1-fb emodule0-mem emodule0-net libevas1-loader-tiff
emodule0-tclock emodule0-snow emodule0-winselector emodule0-slideshow
enlightenment-theme-cthulhain libecore1-dbus enlightenment-theme-milky
enlightenment-theme emodule0-alarm eutils libevas1 emodule0-weather

Do you want to ignore this warning and proceed anyway?
To continue, enter "Yes"; to abort, enter "No": Yes
Segmentation faulttate information... 1%


david@David-Desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install e17
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies.
e17: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
Depends: emodules0-all (>= 0.16.999) but it is not going to be installed
E: Broken packages



I had the same problem, in my case I had to remove the file /etc/apt/preferences
. if you have anything of value in it then just delete anything to do with "e17" in the file.

please make backup of the file "preferences" in case it this workaround does not solve the problem.

Lut!n
February 1st, 2007, 01:33 AM
I will never say that enough: pinning enlightenment in /etc/apt/preferences is _evil_
People do that and then forget, leading to this kind of errors. sad :/.
tcrroadie, would you mind adding a reminder in your first post that'd ask people to check it before any further operations ?.
Thanks ;)

tcrroadie
February 1st, 2007, 02:05 AM
I will never say that enough: pinning enlightenment in /etc/apt/preferences is _evil_
People do that and then forget, leading to this kind of errors. sad :/.
tcrroadie, would you mind adding a reminder in your first post that'd ask people to check it before any further operations ?.
Thanks ;)

Hi Lut!n. I was just thinking the same thing you were about adding a cautionary or warning statement to my guide about the use of an /etc/apt/preferences file.

After adil_uk posted and mentioned the apt preferences file causing installation problems of E17 on his system it hit me, I remembered seeing mention of pinning Enlightenment E17 in previous E17 install threads on the forums here. Looks like you were right. :)

I would also like to mention that I just finished an installation of E17 on a fresh install of Dapper and your packages installed flawlessly. No problems on my end.

When I get the chance I'll edit my install guide with the mention of editing the users /etc/apt/preferences file if one exist, and stating the removal of any previous pinning of Enlightenment packages. At the moment, it is time for me to spend some time with the wife.

Thanks. :D

J.Pulumbarit
February 1st, 2007, 05:00 AM
Lut!n, attached is the other log you wished to see. I am aware that there is something i may have to change in the /etc/apt/prefences or something liek that. I also wanted you to know that I am trying to install e17 on a fresh edgy install...

Lut!n
February 1st, 2007, 07:32 AM
Indeed, seems to be an /ets/apt/preferences issues.
You should try to edit the fle and look for a pin in 'enlightenment'. If there is one , remove it, apt-get update and try again. Everythin should work fine ;)

J.Pulumbarit
February 1st, 2007, 08:07 PM
yes taking out the pin worked, now im on enlightenment. id like to thank anyone and everyone that has helped me, i appreciate it very much and sorry for causing any trouble.

finferflu
February 9th, 2007, 03:32 PM
Is there anyone who can tell me how to set the entrance theme back to default?

With the default theme everything worked, but when I tried to change it, I think it crashes, since I have to login from the command line. I also tried to remove it and delete the configuration with aptitude remove --purge, but I still have no success. I tried changing a couple of themes, but it doesn't work. I tried with the command:


entranced -T -t <path to theme>

and the test works... but it won't start at the startup... annoying...

another thing: since terminal transparency is enabled with Esetroot, is there any way I can run this command at startup time? I tried to add:


exec "Esetroot -scaled <path to file>"

in ~/.xinitrc, but it doesn't do anything...

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for your time!

tcrroadie
February 9th, 2007, 06:50 PM
another thing: since terminal transparency is enabled with Esetroot, is there any way I can run this command at startup time?

I can't personally help you on your issue with Entrance since I haven't used it yet on my system, but I may be able to help out on autostarting Esetroot.

I'm at work at the moment on a Windows box so I will try to remember how to add applications to E17 startup the best I can.

You can creat a .desktop launcher (previously named eap file) for Esetroot and place it in the startup directory for E17. I created a .desktop file for the gnome-settings-daemon so that all of my gtk apps would have the same look as they did under Gnome.

I believe I just did it by right clicking on the icon in the upper left hand corner of an application window, in my case it was Firefox at the time. In the window that opens, select "Edit Icon". In the Application Editor, enter the name for your new application launcher and set your executable options. In your case, your new application name would be Esetroot and your executable field would be


Esetroot -scaled <path to image file>

If memory serves me right, your newly created .desktop file for Esetroot will be created in /home/user/.e/e/applications/all

To have E17 autostart Esetroot for you, just copy your new Esetroot.desktop file from /home/user/.e/e/applications/all to /home/user/.e/e/applications/startup


cp ~/.e/e/applications/all/Esetroot.desktop ~/.e/e/applications/startup

If any of my information is incorrect, please feel free to correct me.

mathmanp
February 9th, 2007, 08:23 PM
To get back to default configuration on entrance you can try:
sudo ./usr/share/entrance/build_config.sh -c /etc/entrance_config.cg
That should generate the default entrance configuration.


Bytheway did anybody else encounter this problem:
When starting a session different from the system default session entrance just executes
the start of the Window Manager/Desktop enviroment but doesn't execute /etc/X11/Xsession
so no session dbus is running ?

finferflu
February 9th, 2007, 11:01 PM
@ tcrroadie

Thanks a lot, I haven't got much time tonight, but I'll try that tomorrow and I'll tell you how it goes. Thanks!


To get back to default configuration on entrance you can try:
sudo ./usr/share/entrance/build_config.sh -c /etc/entrance_config.cg
That should generate the default entrance configuration.


I get this:

$ sudo ./usr/share/entrance/build_config.sh -c /etc/entrance_config.cg
sudo: ./usr/share/entrance/build_config.sh: command not found

It seems I've got something missing...

mathmanp
February 9th, 2007, 11:36 PM
Sorry this file doesn't seem to be in the package, still was in my directory from an old CVS built. I attach it here, but cannot give a garanty that it works properly with the packages.

finferflu
February 9th, 2007, 11:53 PM
Thanks! The script worked, I think, I had some output. Entrance is not starting anyway... I hate when those things happen...

mathmanp
February 10th, 2007, 01:05 AM
I did some tests. Obviously the configuration file of entrance doesn't accept paths for the themes. Copying the themes in the directory where the default themes are stored

/usr/share/entrance/themes/
and doing e.g.

sudo entrance_edit --theme supertheme.edj
(if supertheme.edj is the name of the theme you want to use.
activates the theme. For activating entrance at startup make sure you made it your default display manager.
Depending on what is your default is now try

sudo dpkg--reconfigure gdm
or
sudo dpkg--reconfigure entrance
or
sudo dpkg--reconfigure kdm

If everything else fails delete the configuration file

/etc/entrance_config.cfg
and reinstall.

So entrance should run, but as I said at least in my case I have problems with the sessions started by entrance.

finferflu
February 10th, 2007, 04:51 PM
I did some tests. Obviously the configuration file of entrance doesn't accept paths for the themes. Copying the themes in the directory where the default themes are stored

/usr/share/entrance/themes/
and doing e.g.

sudo entrance_edit --theme supertheme.edj
(if supertheme.edj is the name of the theme you want to use.
activates the theme. For activating entrance at startup make sure you made it your default display manager.
Depending on what is your default is now try

sudo dpkg--reconfigure gdm
or
sudo dpkg--reconfigure entrance
or
sudo dpkg--reconfigure kdm

If everything else fails delete the configuration file

/etc/entrance_config.cfg
and reinstall.

So entrance should run, but as I said at least in my case I have problems with the sessions started by entrance.

Yeah! You're my hero! :smile:
Thanks for spending so much time! Actually on get-e they say you can put the theme anywhere, and then just specify the path. They should be aware of this problem.

As for the problem you encounter, I'm not so experienced, so I might get the same thing, but I haven't noticed anything so far (as I said entrance worked with the default theme). I don't know what you mean by "session dbus", so I might have not noticed its loss...

Thank you!

finferflu
February 10th, 2007, 06:49 PM
I can't personally help you on your issue with Entrance since I haven't used it yet on my system, but I may be able to help out on autostarting Esetroot.

I'm at work at the moment on a Windows box so I will try to remember how to add applications to E17 startup the best I can.

You can creat a .desktop launcher (previously named eap file) for Esetroot and place it in the startup directory for E17. I created a .desktop file for the gnome-settings-daemon so that all of my gtk apps would have the same look as they did under Gnome.

I believe I just did it by right clicking on the icon in the upper left hand corner of an application window, in my case it was Firefox at the time. In the window that opens, select "Edit Icon". In the Application Editor, enter the name for your new application launcher and set your executable options. In your case, your new application name would be Esetroot and your executable field would be


Esetroot -scaled <path to image file>

If memory serves me right, your newly created .desktop file for Esetroot will be created in /home/user/.e/e/applications/all

To have E17 autostart Esetroot for you, just copy your new Esetroot.desktop file from /home/user/.e/e/applications/all to /home/user/.e/e/applications/startup


cp ~/.e/e/applications/all/Esetroot.desktop ~/.e/e/applications/startup

If any of my information is incorrect, please feel free to correct me.


No, it didn't work. When I edited the firefox icon, it simply changed the icon properties, so that firefox had become Esetroot. Moreover there was no Esetroot.desktop in ~/.e/e/applications/all/. I have tried to open firefox.desktop with a text editor, and I can see this:


[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
X-Enlightenment-IconClass=web_browser.png,firefox.edj,firefox
Type=Application
Exec=firefox
StartupNotify=true
StartupWMClass=Firefox-bin
GenericName=Web Browser
X-Enlightenment-IconPath=/usr/share/enlightenment/data/icons/web_browser.png
Name=Firefox
Comment=Browse the Internet
Icon=web_browser.png

Maybe it's easier to create another one in this way, but I don't know how to fill in all the parameters...

Thanks a lot!

Onyros
February 10th, 2007, 10:54 PM
tcrroadie, mate, what are you using as a system tray, if you're using any, right now?

BTW, here's my e17 setup, I stole a few ideas from Elive Revolution, and adapted according to my own taste.

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/115/e17bo2.th.png (http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=e17bo2.png)

Ubuntu Edgy Eft (6.10)
Enlightenment 17, under the Milky theme :P
System Monitor: Conky
Icon set: a mix of a whole lot of icons, the basics coming from NuoveXT
XMMS Skin: Almond
File Manager: PCManFM
Dock: iBar
"System Tray": iBox
Terminal: xterm -fg white -bg black (foreground white, background black)

mehaga
February 11th, 2007, 06:27 PM
I get this when I try to load most of the modules:

'There was an error loading module named: xxxx
No module namex xxx/linux-gnu-i486/module.so could be found in th module search directories...'

module.so are located in /lib/enlightenment/xxxx/linux-gnu-i686, not .../i486.

How do I fix this, please?

tcrroadie
February 11th, 2007, 07:13 PM
^finferflu^


No, it didn't work. When I edited the firefox icon, it simply changed the icon properties, so that firefox had become Esetroot. Moreover there was no Esetroot.desktop in ~/.e/e/applications/all/. I have tried to open firefox.desktop with a text editor, and I can see this:

Sorry, I could have sworn I created a launcher that way over a week ago for my system. Since I am sitting right in front of my E17 system at the moment, lets try another way.

Bring up E17's main menu and select Configuration -> Configuration Panel

Under the Categories column select Applications then Startup Applications from the right column.

Then in the window that pops up select Create a new Application.

A new window named Application Editor will open. Simply fill in the fields then click the Apply button. A new application launcher will then be available in the column named Available Applications in the Startup Applications Window.

Checkmark the All Applications box and scroll down to the bottom of the list. Your new launcher for Esetroot should be available. To add your new Esetroot laucher to the Startup column, simply drag and drop the Esetroot launcher from the Available Applications column to the Startup column. That should do it for you. The next time you start E17, Esetroot should start in the background.

Please see my screenshots for more info.

Hope this helps out more.

finferflu
February 11th, 2007, 07:32 PM
That was lovely, thank you very much!

The only thing I really miss in Enlightenment, by the way, is a proper status/tray bar. For example when I use apps like gaim I want to feel the difference between the main window and the chat windows, I don't want the minimized windows to be iconified, and I don't want the iconified windows to appear as minimized windows when I use the task bar. It gets very messy. Also, some apps that work best as tray icons don't work properly in Enlightenment: Kbittorrent, for example, even when it's started doesn't show up, and I don't know how to get hold of it, I can only see its messages like: "Download complete". I know it's pre-alpha stage, but I hope those features will be improved, that is, I hope the ibox is gonna have tray bar functionalities, and that there will be a difference between iconified windows and minimized ones...

tcrroadie
February 11th, 2007, 07:33 PM
tcrroadie, mate, what are you using as a system tray, if you're using any, right now?

BTW, here's my e17 setup, I stole a few ideas from Elive Revolution, and adapted according to my own taste.

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/115/e17bo2.th.png (http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=e17bo2.png)

Ubuntu Edgy Eft (6.10)
Enlightenment 17, under the Milky theme :P
System Monitor: Conky
Icon set: a mix of a whole lot of icons, the basics coming from NuoveXT
XMMS Skin: Almond
File Manager: PCManFM
Dock: iBar
"System Tray": iBox
Terminal: xterm -fg white -bg black (foreground white, background black)

Hi Onyrus. I am just using E17's standard modules. I am currently just using one shelf placed at the bottom of my screen. I am using the ibar, taskbar, pager, start, and clock modules.

You can have multiple shelfs on your desktop. For example, using your screenshot you posted as an example, you can place an additional shelf at the top of your screen with a second ibar module loaded on it. You can also place the shelf contents anywhere on the screen.

Nice screencapture. I read in another post that PCman is a good file manager to use. I'll have to give it a try some time.

finferflu
February 11th, 2007, 07:38 PM
You can have multiple shelfs on your desktop. For example, using your screenshot you posted as an example, you can place an additional shelf at the top of your screen with a second ibar module loaded on it. You can also place the shelf contents anywhere on the screen.


Multiple shelves will cost you some speed though. I've been using 3, and when I went back to only 1 shelf I could notice the difference.

How can you place shelf contents on the screen? Thanks!

mathmanp
February 12th, 2007, 01:18 AM
That was lovely, thank you very much!

The only thing I really miss in Enlightenment, by the way, is a proper status/tray bar. For example when I use apps like gaim I want to feel the difference between the main window and the chat windows, I don't want the minimized windows to be iconified, and I don't want the iconified windows to appear as minimized windows when I use the task bar. It gets very messy. Also, some apps that work best as tray icons don't work properly in Enlightenment: Kbittorrent, for example, even when it's started doesn't show up, and I don't know how to get hold of it, I can only see its messages like: "Download complete". I know it's pre-alpha stage, but I hope those features will be improved, that is, I hope the ibox is gonna have tray bar functionalities, and that there will be a difference between iconified windows and minimized ones...




If you need a traybar you could try out "trayer", it's not E-based but might be a drop in.
just

apt-get install trayer
installs it, to lauch as a traybar type:

trayer --SetDockType true

There are also options to manipulate width, heith and alignment, and it also has a --tranparency option which might work if you used Esetroot (I didn' try though.)
Best you read the manpage for all available options.

If you don't like it, most applications have an option in their configuration dialog to disable
the "show tray icon" option (at least the KDE apps I had problems with had), which at least keeps them from vanishing or not popping up a window.

Daveth
February 18th, 2007, 07:01 PM
Well, the install went just fine using the guide, and it is very fast on my machine.

But how do you reverse the mouse buttons ? All I can see is mouse button key bindings rather than a switch left and right mouse buttons for left handers. I assume it is a /etc/X11/xorg.conf edit, but what is it I change?

Thanks

bestial
February 18th, 2007, 09:29 PM
Onyros: what's that nice lookin' uptime-app called? Would love to have it on my own desktop!

Also, anyone got any great site with modules etc.? Cause e-get is a little bit empty.

wert613
February 26th, 2007, 05:04 AM
e17 is 30000x better than e16 ever was...

klittzzer
February 28th, 2007, 07:45 PM
Dunno if this is of any interest to anyone. I saw another topic about using e17 and gnome together but found an easier (I think) way to do it.

All I did was install gtk-theme-switch with synaptic (I don't know if this is necessary) and when logged into e17, entered

:~$ gnome-theme-manager

in a terminal (works in eterm and the one that comes with gnome) while inside e17 and choose the GTK2 style I want in the control tab and likewise with the icons. Metacity is obviously disabled in e17 and the terminal will moan about not being able to open Metacity and thus there is no option to select a window border in the theme settings.

Once I have done that I have all the drop shadows etc that Enlightenment offers along with the gtk controls with all of my applications I have in gnome.

I prefer to browse for files with nautilus instead of the default enlightenment one (is this configurable so that I can have folders in a window instead of the menu list style?) so I created a launcher in the ibar in e17 which runs with 'nautilus --no-desktop'. Same goes for other gnome apps.

I can't seem to get the e17 apps,(entropy etc rtc) to install with synaptic from the SeerOfSouls repos because of dependency issues (eet, libeet, same thing aren't they) which all end up with libeet not being available. 'sudo aptitude install emodules0all' or 'sudo aptitude install entropy' doesn't work. I know how to compile these missing dependencies and know where to find them. The problem is, on the web page that lists the lib files there are about a dozen 'eet' files with diff numbers and I haven't a clue as to what one I need. If anyone can help with this I will be grateful. I would rather try the applications that have been built for e17 instead of using nautilus etc.

I have done a couple of screenshots. I have only been using Linux for a few months now and think it is great. A bit frustrating at times but I have learnt a lot more about computers and software in these last 3 months than I did in years of using windows.

26334

26335

26336

PEACE

steve101101
March 1st, 2007, 04:15 PM
worked great. thanks for the great guide.

tcrroadie
March 1st, 2007, 06:22 PM
^^klittzzer^^

Thanks for adding the tip.

As an added note on how to get GTK applications to use the widget and icon themes that where set in gnome-theme-manager, gnome-settings-daemon can be added to E17 Startup Applications.

Simply follow my instructions in the link below, and when creating a new application launcher, simply replace the reference to Esetroot to gnome-settings-daemon.

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2139824&postcount=133

Lut!n
March 1st, 2007, 06:35 PM
I can't seem to get the e17 apps,(entropy etc rtc) to install with synaptic from the SeerOfSouls repos because of dependency issues (eet, libeet, same thing aren't they) which all end up with libeet not being available. 'sudo aptitude install emodules0all' or 'sudo aptitude install entropy' doesn't work.

Those repos are no longer maintained, imho you'd better remove all your packages and follow the howto on the first post of this thread :)

As a side note concerning the gtk look'n'feel thing, here is a tip that can make you have the desired behaviour without even having to launch gnome-settings-daemon (hay, that eats ram)
just add and adapt the following lines in ~/.gtkrc-2.0:

gtk-font-name = "Bitstream Vera Sans 7"
gtk-theme-name = "Human"
gtk-icon-theme-name = "Human"
And then, enjoy the gtk looknfeel with 10Mo ram freed ;) (works fine on edgy)

Cheers
Lut!n

klittzzer
March 1st, 2007, 07:17 PM
Cheers for letting me know how to get the gtk stuff working properly. It makes more sense configuring it the way tcrroadie said and even more sense to edit the .gtkrc2.0 file.

Doing it the way I mentioned above just proves I am an amateur. :confused:

I think I installed this e17 version from those repos you mentioned but will try again after I have disabled the SOS ones. They seem to be the cause of the dependency issues.

Cheers again for the advice.

kl

:)

ps whenever I do 'sudo apt-get update' I always get loads of 'failed to fetch' messages at the end of the output. Is this standard behaviour or am I doing something daft? Sometimes I get very few of the errors but most of the time I get loads. Some are found but if I do update again to rectify the errors they get fixed but others which were ok previously can't be found. As I said, I am an amateur really. Any ideas?

tcrroadie
March 1st, 2007, 08:58 PM
ps whenever I do 'sudo apt-get update' I always get loads of 'failed to fetch' messages at the end of the output. Is this standard behaviour or am I doing something daft? Sometimes I get very few of the errors but most of the time I get loads. Some are found but if I do update again to rectify the errors they get fixed but others which were ok previously can't be found. As I said, I am an amateur really. Any ideas?

Please post the output you receive from apt when you run


sudo apt-get update

Please also post your apt sources.list


cat /etc/apt/sources.list


You are probably just hitting a third party repository that is experiencing heavy load or is being poorly maintained.

klittzzer
March 2nd, 2007, 08:52 PM
Hello again tcrroadie. Thanx for taking interest in my 'apt update' dilemma.:)
I took notice of your 'third party' comment and as a result have reconfigured my /etc/apt/sources.list. I did have a greedy list really and didn't need half of the stuff that was on there. I have subsequently made it easier to read, cut a load of the 3rd party repos out, and am getting an error free update most of the time.

I still have a dilemma though and wonder what your opinion of this is...

Ok, I had enlightenment DR17 installed and running ok. The repositories I used to install that working one were-

############## E17 Repository "e17.dunnewind.net"

deb http://e17.dunnewind.net/ubuntu edgy e17
deb-src http://e17.dunnewind.net/ubuntu edgy e17

############### edevelop - e17 (Enlightenment DR 17)

deb http://edevelop.org/pkg-e/ubuntu edgy e17
deb-src http://edevelop.org/pkg-e/ubuntu edgy e17
deb http://edevelop.org/~lut1n/ubuntu edgy e17

Ok, as I said the enlightenment desktop was running well, blah, blah, blah.

And then I found this one...

################## e17 repository from Elive

deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive

So I commented out the first lot, cut and paste the Elive one above into my sources.list, updated apt, and had a look in synaptic to see if there were any differences between the two.
There are. It looks like there are a lot more themes and applications on the Elive repo in comparison to the dunnewind/edevelop repos.

I am getting well confused now with all this. If I try to download a new theme from the Elive repo apt wants to delete all of the e17 stuff that I got from edevelop & dunnewind.](*,) That will leave me with a few extra themes but no e17 desktop to use them in won't it?:( Is it a matter of uninstalling all of the edevelop stuff, swapping the comments on the sources.list, apt update, and then reinstalling it with the Elive repo?

As I said, I am getting well confused with it.:confused: It seems that different repos have different dependencies and all that. I also reckon that some of the probs I have been having with apt are down to me having conflicting e17 repos-I think?? I dunno really. I am just a humble Linux amateur who misspent his youth getting into strife on the streets and pubs of London and got left behind by the rest of the techno kids in my generation.:confused:

Clue me in to this confusing scenario tcr if you can m8. I will be grateful.
Also, how do you get a cool picture beside your name in the forum?

Here is my /etc/apt/sources.list (I know it is long but I put all of the ##### and spaces so that I could find the erroneus repos and comment or delete them). (I know,I have got A LOT to learn)#-o

26483

Take it easy tcrroadie
and anyone else who passes through this neck of the woods

PEACE

kl

tcrroadie
March 2nd, 2007, 10:43 PM
^^^klittzzer^^^

Thanks for posting back. First I would like to ask what your reasoning in using Elive's repository is? Have you used Elive before?

There are Major differences in the packages at Elive's repository compared to that of Elbuntu's repositories. Elive uses a much older version of E17 compared to the version that the Elbuntu team is using. The Elbuntu team packages E17 for Ubuntu from the latest current
CVS snapshots. If you download and boot an Elive live cd you will see the differences. E17 on Elive is missing much of the configuration utilities that the current version of E17 has.

The Elive developers configure all of their packages to work specifically with the latest testing version of Debian, Etch I think.

If you want to use E17 on Ubuntu, do not mix repositories, and I would not try to use Elive's repos on you Ubuntu system. I may break it, and trust me, the version of E17 that Elive is using is no where near as nice as the current release of E17 that the Elbuntu developers offer.

If you would like to try out Elive, I would recommend just downloading the ISO and running it from the cd. I'm an Elive user myself and use it from time to time at work on my lunch break. It's fun to play with.

Now on to your source list. You are doing a great job at listing comments in your source list. The only thing that I would mention at this time is to remove the Elive repository and only use one of the available Elbuntu E17 mirrors. You can just comment one of the repos like this

############## E17 Repository "e17.dunnewind.net"

#deb http://e17.dunnewind.net/ubuntu edgy e17
#deb-src http://e17.dunnewind.net/ubuntu edgy e17

############### edevelop - e17 (Enlightenment DR 17)

deb http://edevelop.org/pkg-e/ubuntu edgy e17
deb-src http://edevelop.org/pkg-e/ubuntu edgy e17
Remove this line
#deb http://edevelop.org/~lut1n/ubuntu edgy e17

Thanks for posting back. :)

tcrroadie
March 2nd, 2007, 10:50 PM
Also, how do you get a cool picture beside your name in the forum?

You can set an Avatar in your Profile. Click the 'Quick Links' tab, then Edit Profile->Edit Avatar (in left column under Control Panel).

hanzomon4
March 2nd, 2007, 11:12 PM
How do you place modules on the screen? Like I want to move the clock to the upper-left corner but when I drag it from the shelf it just disappears.

tcrroadie
March 3rd, 2007, 02:13 AM
How do you place modules on the screen? Like I want to move the clock to the upper-left corner but when I drag it from the shelf it just disappears.

Simply create an additional shelf placed at the top of your screen.

From E17's main menu, select Configuration->Shelves. Click the 'Add' button to add an additional shelf to your desktop. Then click on your new shelve and click the Configure button. The rest is pretty self explanatory.

klittzzer
March 3rd, 2007, 10:51 AM
tcrroadie,

thanx m8.

You're dead right about that elive lot. Why are they putting progs on their server that don't work? I have even heard that the elive cd image doesn't work. I took your word for it and commented the elive repo out. I will probably delete it as it is not much cop. I tried the 'alien' gtk2 engine and that crashes x every time. Those elive people are struggling ain't they?

What do you think of the kwin in gnome thing? I tried kde when I first got on the linux tip but much prefer gnome. Apprently the kwin will only replace meta-city. i don't think meta-city is that bad or boring.

Take it easy tcrroadie

PEACE

kl

Atreus12
March 6th, 2007, 12:06 AM
Hey all!

I am running 6.06 dapper

I recently tried the live cd for elive, and am hooked on enlightenment as a window manager. I attemped to install following the instructions in this thread, and here is what I got:

NM: Repos were down

hornett
March 6th, 2007, 12:09 AM
Hey all!

I am running 6.06 dapper

<SNIP>

Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] q
Abandoning all efforts to resolve these dependencies.
Abort.

I didn't attept to install, because it didn't look like it was going to go. Any advice?

Same here, except I'm running Edgy. :-k I'm not used to aptitude, is it safe to let it go ahead with that?

Lut!n
March 6th, 2007, 12:33 AM
Please paste here your sources.list, and check if you don't have any pin /etc/apt/preferences for enlightenment dr17. I just tried and it worked fine, so I can't tell much :/

Atreus12
March 6th, 2007, 01:11 AM
etc/apt/preferences does not exist on my machine

NM: repos were down

polydectes
March 6th, 2007, 05:57 AM
It appears that the e17 repositories are currently down. I've been trying all day to rebuild my e17 and received errors about mismatched dependencies and now the 404 error.

nlogax
March 6th, 2007, 06:54 AM
Yes, the E17 repos are down... I want to cry :-(

I need to install it on this laptop to replace Fluxbox. I've posted on the edevelop forums so hopefully they're working on the problem.

Lut!n
March 6th, 2007, 10:49 AM
Ok, should be fixed now. tahnks for your reports :)

Atreus12
March 7th, 2007, 12:53 AM
Awesome! It worked!

hornett
March 7th, 2007, 01:15 AM
Yep, fixed thank-you!:guitar:

voltron87
March 11th, 2007, 12:13 AM
I've looked and tried but how do you change your favorite applications. I go into the favorites folder but i am unable to add anything into it or remove anything. Thanks

nlogax
March 11th, 2007, 01:26 AM
First you want to copy all of the .desktop files for all installed applications on your machine to E17's local application store:


cp /usr/share/applications/*.desktop ~/.e/e/applications/all

The menu hierarchy begins at ~/.e/e/applications/menu/favorite/, and in this directory there is a file called .order which lists the programs at the top level. Simply type the full name of the .desktop file into this file, e.g.


gaim.desktop
firefox.desktop

Make directories for any submenus you wish to have, and likewise simply create a file named .order in each one listing each .desktop file.

There may be a way to do this through the GUI itself, but I'm not aware of it (and haven't looked). Let me know if you need any part of this clarified.

tcrroadie
March 11th, 2007, 02:02 AM
There may be a way to do this through the GUI itself, but I'm not aware of it (and haven't looked). Let me know if you need any part of this clarified.

E17 main menu -> Configuration -> Application Menus

jjalocha
March 11th, 2007, 05:33 AM
I am trying to install Enlightenment E17 on a clean (server) installation of Ubuntu Edgy, but i am unable to start enlightenment. What i have done so far:

* Clean install of Ubuntu with the server option
* Add the edevelop.org repository to /etc/apt/sources.list
* wget http://lut1n.ifrance.com/repo_key.asc
* sudo apt-key add repo_key.asc
* sudo apt-get update
* sudo apt-get upgrade
* sudo apt-get install e17
* sudo apt-get install xorg

When i try to start enlightenment with startx, i get the following error:



Enlightenment Error.
You are executing enlightenment directly. This is bad. Please do not execute the "enlightnment" binary. Use the "enlightenment_start" launcher. It will handle setting up environment variables, paths, and launching any other required services etc. before enlightenment itself begins running.



Installing entrance from the same repository has not solved the problem.

The /usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment.desktop file looks OK to me:




[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Name=Enlightenment
Comment=Log in using Enlightenment (Version 0.16.999.037)
Type=XSession
Icon=/usr/share/enlightenment/data/images/enlightenment.png
Exec=/usr/bin/enlightenment_start
TryExec=/usr/bin/enlightenment_start



Does anybody know what else could be missing?

john_spiral
March 11th, 2007, 01:54 PM
I am trying to install Enlightenment E17 on a clean (server) installation of Ubuntu Edgy, but i am unable to start enlightenment. What i have done so far:

* Clean install of Ubuntu with the server option
* Add the edevelop.org repository to /etc/apt/sources.list
* wget http://lut1n.ifrance.com/repo_key.asc
* sudo apt-key add repo_key.asc
* sudo apt-get update
* sudo apt-get upgrade
* sudo apt-get install e17
* sudo apt-get install xorg

When i try to start enlightenment with startx, i get the following error:



Installing entrance from the same repository has not solved the problem.

The /usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment.desktop file looks OK to me:




[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Name=Enlightenment
Comment=Log in using Enlightenment (Version 0.16.999.037)
Type=XSession
Icon=/usr/share/enlightenment/data/images/enlightenment.png
Exec=/usr/bin/enlightenment_start
TryExec=/usr/bin/enlightenment_start



Does anybody know what else could be missing?

I'm sure your need to have xorg installed before E17?

yabbadabbadont
March 11th, 2007, 02:09 PM
I am trying to install Enlightenment E17 on a clean (server) installation of Ubuntu Edgy, but i am unable to start enlightenment. What i have done so far:

* Clean install of Ubuntu with the server option
* Add the edevelop.org repository to /etc/apt/sources.list
* wget http://lut1n.ifrance.com/repo_key.asc
* sudo apt-key add repo_key.asc
* sudo apt-get update
* sudo apt-get upgrade
* sudo apt-get install e17
* sudo apt-get install xorg

When i try to start enlightenment with startx, i get the following error:



Installing entrance from the same repository has not solved the problem.

The /usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment.desktop file looks OK to me:




[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Name=Enlightenment
Comment=Log in using Enlightenment (Version 0.16.999.037)
Type=XSession
Icon=/usr/share/enlightenment/data/images/enlightenment.png
Exec=/usr/bin/enlightenment_start
TryExec=/usr/bin/enlightenment_start



Does anybody know what else could be missing?

That desktop file is only used when you login using GDM or KDM or some other graphical login manager. When you run startx, you need to have /usr/bin/enlightenment_start in your ~/.xinitrc file.

jjalocha
March 11th, 2007, 03:45 PM
I don't think it makes much difference, and I don't remember very well, but I think I installed e17 and xorg in that order.

Anyway, creating .xinitrc solved the issue. I'm writing this from my new enlightenment installation --at least!

BTW. Does anybody know, if it is possible to set this up in a more general way, or is it absolutely necessary to create the .xinitrc for every new user?

Thank you very much for your help!

Faytz
March 11th, 2007, 04:18 PM
Nice. I always thought id have to get elbuntu to get enlightenment guess not. Thanks!
(Reason why i said this is because elbuntu is still 0.1 X_X)

kopilo
March 12th, 2007, 07:51 AM
Worked like a charm, thanks for posting this howto and repository links. =)

nrKist
March 16th, 2007, 08:29 AM
I've been meaning to say thanks tcrroadie. So far E17 is the only window manager that has all of the fn buttons working on my Toshiba Satellite L25.

Side note. I like your alias. My LBS has a bright yellow NOS '04 TCR Alloy that I'd love to get my hands on.

Stone123
March 18th, 2007, 07:29 PM
Off topic question:

Whats with the slowness of elbuntu team and inactivity

Sp4rKy
March 19th, 2007, 09:04 AM
Off topic question:

Whats with the slowness of elbuntu team and inactivity

Hi,
The elbuntu team is very small in fact :
Lut!n who to the biggest part of work in repo & packaging
Me who build the Elbuntu distro
ZaZo0o who works on artwork
(+ people for docs).

And in the last few days, i got a lot of issue with my server. So the development of Elbuntu is a bit slow actually. Anyway, my first test work and i think i'll upload the first iso in a few days.

Anyway, feel free to join us if you want speed up the Elbuntu dev :)

Stone123
March 19th, 2007, 11:41 AM
Hi,
The elbuntu team is very small in fact :
Lut!n who to the biggest part of work in repo & packaging
Me who build the Elbuntu distro
ZaZo0o who works on artwork
(+ people for docs).

And in the last few days, i got a lot of issue with my server. So the development of Elbuntu is a bit slow actually. Anyway, my first test work and i think i'll upload the first iso in a few days.

Anyway, feel free to join us if you want speed up the Elbuntu dev :)

Ok i was jumping in #elbuntu channel on freenode to see what needs to be done. I'll check out launcpad to see if i can join.

drf_av
March 21st, 2007, 03:26 PM
I just wanted to say thanks!
Enlightenment worked out of the box with my brand-new Feisty install and it took me 5 minutes to forget how gnome looked like ;)
And, Flame thing is sick :|

kopilo
March 22nd, 2007, 02:55 AM
mmmhmmm, also try getting an animated backgrounds off of get-e (http://www4.get-e.org/) (such as the one of the world).

dbbolton
March 23rd, 2007, 02:58 AM
daniel@lennox:~$ sudo aptitude install e17
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Initialising package states... Done
Building tag database... Done
The following packages are BROKEN:
e17 emodule0-alarm emodule0-cpu emodule0-deskshow emodule0-flame
emodule0-forecasts emodule0-language emodule0-mail emodule0-mem
emodule0-mixer emodule0-moon emodule0-net emodule0-photo emodule0-rain
emodule0-screenshot emodule0-slideshow emodule0-snow emodule0-taskbar
emodule0-tclock emodule0-uptime emodule0-weather emodule0-winselector
emodule0-wlan emodules0-all
The following NEW packages will be automatically installed:
enlightenment-theme enlightenment-theme-cthulhain
enlightenment-theme-darkness enlightenment-theme-kor
enlightenment-theme-milky enlightenment-theme-simply-white libecore1
libecore1-con libecore1-config libecore1-dbus libecore1-desktop
libecore1-evas libecore1-fb libecore1-file libecore1-ipc libecore1-job
libecore1-txt libecore1-x libeet0 libevas1 libevas1-loader-eet
libevas1-loader-gif libevas1-loader-jpeg libevas1-loader-png
libevas1-loader-svg libevas1-loader-tiff libevas1-loader-xpm
libevas1-loaders-all libexml1 libungif4g
The following NEW packages will be installed:
enlightenment-theme enlightenment-theme-cthulhain
enlightenment-theme-darkness enlightenment-theme-kor
enlightenment-theme-milky enlightenment-theme-simply-white libecore1
libecore1-con libecore1-config libecore1-dbus libecore1-desktop
libecore1-evas libecore1-fb libecore1-file libecore1-ipc libecore1-job
libecore1-txt libecore1-x libeet0 libevas1 libevas1-loader-eet
libevas1-loader-gif libevas1-loader-jpeg libevas1-loader-png
libevas1-loader-svg libevas1-loader-tiff libevas1-loader-xpm
libevas1-loaders-all libexml1 libungif4g
0 packages upgraded, 54 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 17.2MB of archives. After unpacking 24.2MB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
emodule0-screenshot: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-wlan: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-language: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodules0-all: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-mail: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
e17: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-photo: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-deskshow: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-taskbar: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-flame: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-moon: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-mixer: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-rain: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-cpu: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-uptime: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-mem: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-net: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-tclock: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-snow: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-winselector: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-slideshow: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-alarm: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-forecasts: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-weather: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
Resolving dependencies...
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

Install the following packages:
enlightenment [1:0.16.7.2-3ubuntu1 (edgy)]
enlightenment-data [1:0.16.7.2-3ubuntu1 (edgy)]
libimlib2 [1.3.0.0debian1-4~edgy1 (edgy, edgy)]

Score is -197

Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] Y
The following NEW packages will be automatically installed:
emodule0-alarm emodule0-cpu emodule0-deskshow emodule0-flame
emodule0-forecasts emodule0-language emodule0-mail emodule0-mem
emodule0-mixer emodule0-moon emodule0-net emodule0-photo emodule0-rain
emodule0-screenshot emodule0-slideshow emodule0-snow emodule0-taskbar
emodule0-tclock emodule0-uptime emodule0-weather emodule0-winselector
emodule0-wlan emodules0-all enlightenment enlightenment-data
enlightenment-theme enlightenment-theme-cthulhain
enlightenment-theme-darkness enlightenment-theme-kor
enlightenment-theme-milky enlightenment-theme-simply-white libecore1
libecore1-con libecore1-config libecore1-dbus libecore1-desktop
libecore1-evas libecore1-fb libecore1-file libecore1-ipc libecore1-job
libecore1-txt libecore1-x libeet0 libevas1 libevas1-loader-eet
libevas1-loader-gif libevas1-loader-jpeg libevas1-loader-png
libevas1-loader-svg libevas1-loader-tiff libevas1-loader-xpm
libevas1-loaders-all libexml1 libimlib2 libungif4g
The following NEW packages will be installed:
e17 emodule0-alarm emodule0-cpu emodule0-deskshow emodule0-flame
emodule0-forecasts emodule0-language emodule0-mail emodule0-mem
emodule0-mixer emodule0-moon emodule0-net emodule0-photo emodule0-rain
emodule0-screenshot emodule0-slideshow emodule0-snow emodule0-taskbar
emodule0-tclock emodule0-uptime emodule0-weather emodule0-winselector
emodule0-wlan emodules0-all enlightenment enlightenment-data
enlightenment-theme enlightenment-theme-cthulhain
enlightenment-theme-darkness enlightenment-theme-kor
enlightenment-theme-milky enlightenment-theme-simply-white libecore1
libecore1-con libecore1-config libecore1-dbus libecore1-desktop
libecore1-evas libecore1-fb libecore1-file libecore1-ipc libecore1-job
libecore1-txt libecore1-x libeet0 libevas1 libevas1-loader-eet
libevas1-loader-gif libevas1-loader-jpeg libevas1-loader-png
libevas1-loader-svg libevas1-loader-tiff libevas1-loader-xpm
libevas1-loaders-all libexml1 libimlib2 libungif4g
0 packages upgraded, 57 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 20.4MB of archives. After unpacking 30.9MB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] Y
Segmentation fault (core dumped)on... 1%

Lut!n
March 23rd, 2007, 07:30 AM
daniel@lennox:~$ sudo aptitude install e17
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Initialising package states... Done
Building tag database... Done
The following packages are BROKEN:
e17 emodule0-alarm emodule0-cpu emodule0-deskshow emodule0-flame
emodule0-forecasts emodule0-language emodule0-mail emodule0-mem
emodule0-mixer emodule0-moon emodule0-net emodule0-photo emodule0-rain
emodule0-screenshot emodule0-slideshow emodule0-snow emodule0-taskbar
emodule0-tclock emodule0-uptime emodule0-weather emodule0-winselector
emodule0-wlan emodules0-all
The following NEW packages will be automatically installed:
enlightenment-theme enlightenment-theme-cthulhain
enlightenment-theme-darkness enlightenment-theme-kor
enlightenment-theme-milky enlightenment-theme-simply-white libecore1
libecore1-con libecore1-config libecore1-dbus libecore1-desktop
libecore1-evas libecore1-fb libecore1-file libecore1-ipc libecore1-job
libecore1-txt libecore1-x libeet0 libevas1 libevas1-loader-eet
libevas1-loader-gif libevas1-loader-jpeg libevas1-loader-png
libevas1-loader-svg libevas1-loader-tiff libevas1-loader-xpm
libevas1-loaders-all libexml1 libungif4g
The following NEW packages will be installed:
enlightenment-theme enlightenment-theme-cthulhain
enlightenment-theme-darkness enlightenment-theme-kor
enlightenment-theme-milky enlightenment-theme-simply-white libecore1
libecore1-con libecore1-config libecore1-dbus libecore1-desktop
libecore1-evas libecore1-fb libecore1-file libecore1-ipc libecore1-job
libecore1-txt libecore1-x libeet0 libevas1 libevas1-loader-eet
libevas1-loader-gif libevas1-loader-jpeg libevas1-loader-png
libevas1-loader-svg libevas1-loader-tiff libevas1-loader-xpm
libevas1-loaders-all libexml1 libungif4g
0 packages upgraded, 54 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 17.2MB of archives. After unpacking 24.2MB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
emodule0-screenshot: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-wlan: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-language: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodules0-all: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-mail: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
e17: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-photo: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-deskshow: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-taskbar: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-flame: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-moon: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-mixer: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-rain: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-cpu: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-uptime: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-mem: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-net: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-tclock: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-snow: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-winselector: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-slideshow: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-alarm: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-forecasts: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
emodule0-weather: Depends: enlightenment (>= 0.16.999) but it is not installable
Resolving dependencies...
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

Install the following packages:
enlightenment [1:0.16.7.2-3ubuntu1 (edgy)]
enlightenment-data [1:0.16.7.2-3ubuntu1 (edgy)]
libimlib2 [1.3.0.0debian1-4~edgy1 (edgy, edgy)]

Score is -197

Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] Y
The following NEW packages will be automatically installed:
emodule0-alarm emodule0-cpu emodule0-deskshow emodule0-flame
emodule0-forecasts emodule0-language emodule0-mail emodule0-mem
emodule0-mixer emodule0-moon emodule0-net emodule0-photo emodule0-rain
emodule0-screenshot emodule0-slideshow emodule0-snow emodule0-taskbar
emodule0-tclock emodule0-uptime emodule0-weather emodule0-winselector
emodule0-wlan emodules0-all enlightenment enlightenment-data
enlightenment-theme enlightenment-theme-cthulhain
enlightenment-theme-darkness enlightenment-theme-kor
enlightenment-theme-milky enlightenment-theme-simply-white libecore1
libecore1-con libecore1-config libecore1-dbus libecore1-desktop
libecore1-evas libecore1-fb libecore1-file libecore1-ipc libecore1-job
libecore1-txt libecore1-x libeet0 libevas1 libevas1-loader-eet
libevas1-loader-gif libevas1-loader-jpeg libevas1-loader-png
libevas1-loader-svg libevas1-loader-tiff libevas1-loader-xpm
libevas1-loaders-all libexml1 libimlib2 libungif4g
The following NEW packages will be installed:
e17 emodule0-alarm emodule0-cpu emodule0-deskshow emodule0-flame
emodule0-forecasts emodule0-language emodule0-mail emodule0-mem
emodule0-mixer emodule0-moon emodule0-net emodule0-photo emodule0-rain
emodule0-screenshot emodule0-slideshow emodule0-snow emodule0-taskbar
emodule0-tclock emodule0-uptime emodule0-weather emodule0-winselector
emodule0-wlan emodules0-all enlightenment enlightenment-data
enlightenment-theme enlightenment-theme-cthulhain
enlightenment-theme-darkness enlightenment-theme-kor
enlightenment-theme-milky enlightenment-theme-simply-white libecore1
libecore1-con libecore1-config libecore1-dbus libecore1-desktop
libecore1-evas libecore1-fb libecore1-file libecore1-ipc libecore1-job
libecore1-txt libecore1-x libeet0 libevas1 libevas1-loader-eet
libevas1-loader-gif libevas1-loader-jpeg libevas1-loader-png
libevas1-loader-svg libevas1-loader-tiff libevas1-loader-xpm
libevas1-loaders-all libexml1 libimlib2 libungif4g
0 packages upgraded, 57 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 20.4MB of archives. After unpacking 30.9MB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] Y
Segmentation fault (core dumped)on... 1%


I'd say you probably have a pin on enlightenment in /etc/apt/preferences. Please check it and remove it if there's one
Cheers

bettlebrox
March 24th, 2007, 09:32 PM
Anyone know if there are packages for feisty or will the edgy packages work in feisty? A little googling turns up this page:

http://ubuntuos.wordpress.com/2007/03/12/howto-ubuntu-feisty-install-e17-enlightenment-desktop/

So I''m hoping that the edgy packages do work w/ feisty.

tgrisier
March 25th, 2007, 03:29 PM
Well I installed e17 according to the tutorial but when I log out and move the mouse to "options" my screen goes crazy. I can see well enough to log back in but the screen stays messed up. The only way to get it back right is to shut down and restart. I've run update manager and it says my system (6.10) is up to date.

I must have missed something or not have something set right. Any help would be appreciated.

martinw89
March 26th, 2007, 02:09 AM
Anyone know if there are packages for feisty or will the edgy packages work in feisty? A little googling turns up this page:

http://ubuntuos.wordpress.com/2007/03/12/howto-ubuntu-feisty-install-e17-enlightenment-desktop/

So I''m hoping that the edgy packages do work w/ feisty.
Yup, there are packages available for Feisty. Just use the following in your sources.list:

## E17 repository "edevelop.org"
deb http://edevelop.org/pkg-e/ubuntu feisty e17
deb-src http://edevelop.org/pkg-e/ubuntu feisty e17

bettlebrox
March 27th, 2007, 02:04 AM
Great, thanks.

feldsinc
March 31st, 2007, 05:06 AM
First off, thanks for this great tutorial. I followed it from step one to the last got it working great in Fiery.

However, I've run into one small problem... I can't seem to find the infamous 'Bling' module. If I understand this correctly, it is this module that causes transparency in e17. I can't seem to figure out why I am not getting any transparency effects on my desktop and I think the missing Bling module may be the cause. Where might I find this module or if it is not needed, how do I get to the transparency settings?

I am running on:
Dell Inspiron 6000
X300 ATI Dedicated graphics

Thanks in advance.

Lut!n
April 23rd, 2007, 01:04 AM
As bling is not stable, I've decided not to put it in the repos. You can compile it though, it's not very hard. All you need is grapd the source from cvs (cvs -qz3 -d:pserver:@anoncvs.enlightenment.org:/var/cvs/e co e_modules/bling) and install enlightenment-dev and any other -dev package required by the configure, run ./autogen.sh, make, make install and you're done

Cheers

ps:be aware that it is _software_ compositing, thus it might heavily slow down your computer

lognok
April 24th, 2007, 10:15 PM
Very nice and fast how-to.
Got it running in Feisty and it looks sooooo goooood. Nice and fast.
Now all I need to do is get accustomed to the enviroment and see if I can live without a system tray (where Gaim, Skype and Network Manager usually resides).

nlogax
April 28th, 2007, 09:09 AM
You can always use 'trayer' for a very basic system tray.

Or run E17's Engage which is a combined launcher, tasklist & system tray (kinda like Apple's Dock) -- however the module version apparently isn't stable yet and I've never quite got the standalone version working well.

worldwithoutgurus
April 28th, 2007, 11:16 AM
Engage is *no longer* maintained.

Use Itask instead. Please refer to this threadt:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=415283&highlight=e17

Dax0r
April 28th, 2007, 05:57 PM
I Can select Miky as gtk theme?

this is my .gtkrc2

gtk-theme-name = "MorningGlory"
gtk-icon-theme-name = "Edge"
#-gtk-font-name = "Bitstream Vera Sans 7"
#-gtk-icon-sizes = "gtk-menu=32,32:gtk-button=32,32"
#gtk-cursor-theme-name = "e"
#-gtk-cursor-theme-size = 48


[/QUOTE]
Any idea??

Lut!n
April 29th, 2007, 12:43 AM
No, you can't, as e17 themes are usable only with e17, as metacity themes are only useable with metacity, etc...
You can browse gnome-look.org though, there's a bunch of gtk2 miky-ish themes there.
Cheers

Xummoner
May 2nd, 2007, 12:00 AM
I've been trying to install Elightenment for ages (look for previous posts) with no luck. Right now I'm running Feisty Fawn and I get this errors:


david@David-Desktop:~$ sudo apt-get update
Get: 1 http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security Release.gpg [191B]
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main Translation-en_US
Get: 2 http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty Release.gpg [191B]
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/restricted Translation-en_US
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/universe Translation-en_US
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security Release
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/restricted Translation-en_US
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/multiverse Translation-en_US
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe Translation-en_US
Get: 3 http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports Release.gpg [191B]
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/restricted Translation-en_US
Get: 4 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates Release.gpg [191B]
Ign http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/restricted Translation-en_US
Ign http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/universe Translation-en_US
Get: 5 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports Release.gpg [191B]
Ign http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/main Translation-en_US
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main Packages
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/multiverse Translation-en_US
Get: 6 http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates Release.gpg [191B]
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/multiverse Translation-en_US
Get: 7 http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-security Release.gpg [191B]
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main Translation-en_US
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/restricted Packages
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/universe Packages
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/restricted Sources
Ign http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/restricted Translation-en_US
Ign http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/multiverse Translation-en_US
Ign http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/universe Translation-en_US
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-security/restricted Translation-en_US
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-security/multiverse Translation-en_US
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty Release
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports Release
Hit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates Release
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates Release
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main Sources
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-security Release
Hit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports Release
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Packages
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/restricted Packages
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/multiverse Packages
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe Packages
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Sources
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/restricted Sources
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/multiverse Sources
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/main Packages
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/restricted Packages
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/multiverse Packages
Hit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/main Packages
Hit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/restricted Packages
Hit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/universe Packages
Hit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/main Sources
Hit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/restricted Sources
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/main Sources
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/restricted Sources
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/multiverse Sources
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/multiverse Packages
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/multiverse Sources
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main Packages
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-security/restricted Packages
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-security/multiverse Packages
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main Sources
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-security/restricted Sources
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-security/multiverse Sources
Hit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/main Packages
Hit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/restricted Packages
Hit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/multiverse Packages
Hit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/universe Packages
Hit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/main Sources
Hit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/restricted Sources
Hit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/multiverse Sources
Get: 8 http://edevelop.org feisty Release.gpg [189B]
Ign http://edevelop.org feisty/e17 Translation-en_US
Hit http://edevelop.org feisty Release
Get: 9 http://e17.dunnewind.net feisty Release.gpg [189B]
Hit http://edevelop.org feisty/e17 Packages
Ign http://e17.dunnewind.net feisty/e17 Translation-en_US
Hit http://edevelop.org feisty/e17 Sources
Get: 10 http://e17.dunnewind.net feisty Release [6196B]
Get: 11 http://e17.dunnewind.net feisty/e17 Packages [24.8kB]
Get: 12 http://e17.dunnewind.net feisty/e17 Sources [4049B]
Fetched 35.2kB in 13s (2692B/s)
Reading package lists... Done
david@David-Desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install e17
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
e17 is already the newest version.
You might want to run ‘apt-get -f install’ to correct these:
The following packages have unmet dependencies.
emodule0-language: Depends: libecore1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
enlightenment: Depends: libecore1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libecore1-con (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libecore1-config (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libecore1-dbus (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libecore1-evas (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libecore1-fb (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libecore1-file (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libecore1-ipc (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libecore1-job (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libecore1-txt (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libecore1-x (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libevas1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
libecore1-bin: Depends: libecore1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libecore1-config (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
libedje0: Depends: libecore1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libecore1-evas (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libecore1-fb (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libecore1-job (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libecore1-txt (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libecore1-x (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libevas1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
libedje0-bin: Depends: libecore1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libecore1-evas (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libevas1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
libefreet1: Depends: libecore1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libecore1-file (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
libevas1-engine-buffer: Depends: libevas1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
libevas1-engine-software-generic: Depends: libevas1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
libevas1-engine-software-x11: Depends: libevas1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
libevas1-loader-eet: Depends: libevas1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
libevas1-loader-gif: Depends: libevas1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
libevas1-loader-jpeg: Depends: libevas1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
libevas1-loader-png: Depends: libevas1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
libevas1-loader-svg: Depends: libevas1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
libevas1-loader-tiff: Depends: libevas1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
libevas1-loader-xpm: Depends: libevas1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
libevas1-saver-eet: Depends: libevas1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
libevas1-saver-jpeg: Depends: libevas1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
libevas1-saver-png: Depends: libevas1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
libexml1: Depends: libecore1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try ‘apt-get -f install’ with no packages (or specify a solution).
david@David-Desktop:~$ sudo gedit /etc/apt/preferences
david@David-Desktop:~$ apt-get -f install
E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
david@David-Desktop:~$ sudo apt-get -f install
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Correcting dependencies...Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
libecore1 libecore1-con libecore1-config libecore1-dbus libecore1-evas
libecore1-fb libecore1-file libecore1-ipc libecore1-job libecore1-txt
libecore1-x libevas1
Suggested packages:
libevas1-all
The following NEW packages will be installed
libecore1 libecore1-con libecore1-config libecore1-dbus libecore1-evas
libecore1-fb libecore1-file libecore1-ipc libecore1-job libecore1-txt
libecore1-x libevas1
0 upgraded, 12 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
52 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B/460kB of archives.
After unpacking 1749kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
(Reading database ... 163882 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking libecore1 (from .../libecore1_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libecore.so.1.0.0', which is also in package libecore0
Unpacking libecore1-con (from .../libecore1-con_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-con_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libecore_con.so.1.0.0', which is also in package libecore0
Unpacking libecore1-ipc (from .../libecore1-ipc_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-ipc_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libecore_ipc.so.1.0.0', which is also in package libecore0
Unpacking libevas1 (from .../libevas1_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libevas1_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libevas.so.1.0.0', which is also in package libevas0
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Unpacking libecore1-config (from .../libecore1-config_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-config_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libecore_config.so.1.0.0', which is also in package libecore0
Unpacking libecore1-dbus (from .../libecore1-dbus_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-dbus_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libecore_dbus.so.1.0.0', which is also in package libecore0
Unpacking libecore1-fb (from .../libecore1-fb_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-fb_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libecore_fb.so.1.0.0', which is also in package libecore0
Unpacking libecore1-txt (from .../libecore1-txt_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-txt_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libecore_txt.so.1.0.0', which is also in package libecore0
Unpacking libecore1-x (from .../libecore1-x_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-x_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libecore_x.so.1.0.0', which is also in package libecore0
Unpacking libecore1-evas (from .../libecore1-evas_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-evas_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libecore_evas.so.1.0.0', which is also in package libecore0
Unpacking libecore1-file (from .../libecore1-file_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-file_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libecore_file.so.1.0.0', which is also in package libecore0
Unpacking libecore1-job (from .../libecore1-job_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-job_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libecore_job.so.1.0.0', which is also in package libecore0
Errors were encountered while processing:
/var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb
/var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-con_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb
/var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-ipc_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb
/var/cache/apt/archives/libevas1_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb
/var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-config_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb
/var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-dbus_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb
/var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-fb_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb
/var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-txt_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb
/var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-x_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb
/var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-evas_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb
/var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-file_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb
/var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-job_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

Now the update manager, says my package index is broken.

jharbert
May 2nd, 2007, 04:14 AM
Thanks for the howto, it worked great. I'm having an issue with the fonts. The basic system font sizes are fine, but the font size in most of my applications is really big. See the picture to see what I'm talking about. Any ideas on how to make them smaller.

Lut!n
May 2nd, 2007, 06:37 AM
I've been trying to install Elightenment for ages (look for previous posts) with no luck. Right now I'm running Feisty Fawn and I get this errors:


david@David-Desktop:~$ sudo apt-get update
Get: 1 http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security Release.gpg [191B]
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main Translation-en_US
Get: 2 http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty Release.gpg [191B]
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/restricted Translation-en_US
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/universe Translation-en_US
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security Release
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/restricted Translation-en_US
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/multiverse Translation-en_US
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe Translation-en_US
Get: 3 http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports Release.gpg [191B]
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/restricted Translation-en_US
Get: 4 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates Release.gpg [191B]
Ign http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/restricted Translation-en_US
Ign http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/universe Translation-en_US
Get: 5 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports Release.gpg [191B]
Ign http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/main Translation-en_US
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main Packages
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/multiverse Translation-en_US
Get: 6 http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates Release.gpg [191B]
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/multiverse Translation-en_US
Get: 7 http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-security Release.gpg [191B]
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main Translation-en_US
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/restricted Packages
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/universe Packages
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/restricted Sources
Ign http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/restricted Translation-en_US
Ign http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/multiverse Translation-en_US
Ign http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/universe Translation-en_US
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-security/restricted Translation-en_US
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-security/multiverse Translation-en_US
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty Release
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports Release
Hit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates Release
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates Release
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main Sources
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-security Release
Hit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports Release
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Packages
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/restricted Packages
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/multiverse Packages
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe Packages
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Sources
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/restricted Sources
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/multiverse Sources
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/main Packages
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/restricted Packages
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/multiverse Packages
Hit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/main Packages
Hit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/restricted Packages
Hit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/universe Packages
Hit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/main Sources
Hit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/restricted Sources
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/main Sources
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/restricted Sources
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/multiverse Sources
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/multiverse Packages
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/multiverse Sources
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main Packages
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-security/restricted Packages
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-security/multiverse Packages
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main Sources
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-security/restricted Sources
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-security/multiverse Sources
Hit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/main Packages
Hit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/restricted Packages
Hit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/multiverse Packages
Hit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/universe Packages
Hit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/main Sources
Hit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/restricted Sources
Hit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/multiverse Sources
Get: 8 http://edevelop.org feisty Release.gpg [189B]
Ign http://edevelop.org feisty/e17 Translation-en_US
Hit http://edevelop.org feisty Release
Get: 9 http://e17.dunnewind.net feisty Release.gpg [189B]
Hit http://edevelop.org feisty/e17 Packages
Ign http://e17.dunnewind.net feisty/e17 Translation-en_US
Hit http://edevelop.org feisty/e17 Sources
Get: 10 http://e17.dunnewind.net feisty Release [6196B]
Get: 11 http://e17.dunnewind.net feisty/e17 Packages [24.8kB]
Get: 12 http://e17.dunnewind.net feisty/e17 Sources [4049B]
Fetched 35.2kB in 13s (2692B/s)
Reading package lists... Done
david@David-Desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install e17
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
e17 is already the newest version.
You might want to run ‘apt-get -f install’ to correct these:
The following packages have unmet dependencies.
emodule0-language: Depends: libecore1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
enlightenment: Depends: libecore1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libecore1-con (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libecore1-config (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libecore1-dbus (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libecore1-evas (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libecore1-fb (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libecore1-file (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libecore1-ipc (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libecore1-job (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libecore1-txt (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libecore1-x (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libevas1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
libecore1-bin: Depends: libecore1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libecore1-config (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
libedje0: Depends: libecore1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libecore1-evas (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libecore1-fb (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libecore1-job (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libecore1-txt (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libecore1-x (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libevas1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
libedje0-bin: Depends: libecore1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libecore1-evas (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libevas1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
libefreet1: Depends: libecore1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libecore1-file (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
libevas1-engine-buffer: Depends: libevas1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
libevas1-engine-software-generic: Depends: libevas1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
libevas1-engine-software-x11: Depends: libevas1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
libevas1-loader-eet: Depends: libevas1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
libevas1-loader-gif: Depends: libevas1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
libevas1-loader-jpeg: Depends: libevas1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
libevas1-loader-png: Depends: libevas1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
libevas1-loader-svg: Depends: libevas1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
libevas1-loader-tiff: Depends: libevas1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
libevas1-loader-xpm: Depends: libevas1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
libevas1-saver-eet: Depends: libevas1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
libevas1-saver-jpeg: Depends: libevas1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
libevas1-saver-png: Depends: libevas1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
libexml1: Depends: libecore1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try ‘apt-get -f install’ with no packages (or specify a solution).
david@David-Desktop:~$ sudo gedit /etc/apt/preferences
david@David-Desktop:~$ apt-get -f install
E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
david@David-Desktop:~$ sudo apt-get -f install
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Correcting dependencies...Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
libecore1 libecore1-con libecore1-config libecore1-dbus libecore1-evas
libecore1-fb libecore1-file libecore1-ipc libecore1-job libecore1-txt
libecore1-x libevas1
Suggested packages:
libevas1-all
The following NEW packages will be installed
libecore1 libecore1-con libecore1-config libecore1-dbus libecore1-evas
libecore1-fb libecore1-file libecore1-ipc libecore1-job libecore1-txt
libecore1-x libevas1
0 upgraded, 12 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
52 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B/460kB of archives.
After unpacking 1749kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
(Reading database ... 163882 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking libecore1 (from .../libecore1_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libecore.so.1.0.0', which is also in package libecore0
Unpacking libecore1-con (from .../libecore1-con_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-con_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libecore_con.so.1.0.0', which is also in package libecore0
Unpacking libecore1-ipc (from .../libecore1-ipc_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-ipc_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libecore_ipc.so.1.0.0', which is also in package libecore0
Unpacking libevas1 (from .../libevas1_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libevas1_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libevas.so.1.0.0', which is also in package libevas0
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Unpacking libecore1-config (from .../libecore1-config_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-config_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libecore_config.so.1.0.0', which is also in package libecore0
Unpacking libecore1-dbus (from .../libecore1-dbus_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-dbus_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libecore_dbus.so.1.0.0', which is also in package libecore0
Unpacking libecore1-fb (from .../libecore1-fb_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-fb_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libecore_fb.so.1.0.0', which is also in package libecore0
Unpacking libecore1-txt (from .../libecore1-txt_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-txt_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libecore_txt.so.1.0.0', which is also in package libecore0
Unpacking libecore1-x (from .../libecore1-x_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-x_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libecore_x.so.1.0.0', which is also in package libecore0
Unpacking libecore1-evas (from .../libecore1-evas_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-evas_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libecore_evas.so.1.0.0', which is also in package libecore0
Unpacking libecore1-file (from .../libecore1-file_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-file_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libecore_file.so.1.0.0', which is also in package libecore0
Unpacking libecore1-job (from .../libecore1-job_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-job_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libecore_job.so.1.0.0', which is also in package libecore0
Errors were encountered while processing:
/var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb
/var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-con_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb
/var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-ipc_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb
/var/cache/apt/archives/libevas1_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb
/var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-config_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb
/var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-dbus_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb
/var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-fb_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb
/var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-txt_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb
/var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-x_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb
/var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-evas_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb
/var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-file_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb
/var/cache/apt/archives/libecore1-job_0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1_i386.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

Now the update manager, says my package index is broken.

Hey,
I don't know what repo you are upgrading from but for sure, given the package names, it's odlly outdated or at least 100% incompatible with this repo. You won't be able to install this way. I suggest you to remove your enlightenment packages (ie, those ones who are conflicting) and to reinstall
Cheers


@jharbert : if you're talking about the GTK font size / theme, this post could be interesting ; http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2231464&postcount=144

Xummoner
May 2nd, 2007, 07:39 AM
Thanks for the reply Lut!n, I was able to install it using a compiling guide I found in here and with a lot of help on IRC, there are still a couple of things I have to figure out (using themes available as .tar and such), but I'll leave that for later.

jharbert
May 2nd, 2007, 01:30 PM
Thanks Lut!n. Worked great.

trmiv
May 2nd, 2007, 07:28 PM
So I installed E17 on 7.04 last night, and it went OK. I was able to use E17 and everything was good. Then I tried to use a different theme, and it got messed up. I selected the Milky theme, and now suddenly I can't click on any of the buttons on the launcher bar, nothing works. I was able to get back into the theme menu by clicking on the desktop, but when the list of themes comes up I can't actually click on any of them. Any idea what's going on? And how can I get it set back to the default theme so I can use it?

clyde9999
May 3rd, 2007, 05:04 PM
Like someone said earlier. There is not System Tray. You cannot see programs like Messenger running in the background, Amarok, and any program that runs in the background. with most programs, like amarok, this is not a problem, you can just click to start it and it will open the existing program, but with programs like skype, you cannot do this. it will open a new skype and the old one will be still running in the background. A System Tray is needed, and TRAYER is not good enough, it is just ugly and a large step backwards.......

Clyde

Lut!n
May 3rd, 2007, 08:09 PM
So I installed E17 on 7.04 last night, and it went OK. I was able to use E17 and everything was good. Then I tried to use a different theme, and it got messed up. I selected the Milky theme, and now suddenly I can't click on any of the buttons on the launcher bar, nothing works. I was able to get back into the theme menu by clicking on the desktop, but when the list of themes comes up I can't actually click on any of them. Any idea what's going on? And how can I get it set back to the default theme so I can use it?

You can see on get-e.org that milky is ou of date. it's only provided not to completely break E for the users using it at the moment of the upgrade.
One thing you can do to go back to the default theme so you can select an other is to press 'alt + esc', then open xterm (just type 'xterm' in the prompt), and use the following command : 'enlightenment_remote -theme-set theme default.edj . Then restart E (click -> enlightenment -> restart) and you're done.
Cheers

PS: the other easy way is rm -R ~/.e/e/config , though you'll have to reconfigure E from scratch. You should try this onmy is you're experiencing issues with E

ju^ju
May 4th, 2007, 03:31 PM
Hi all!

Are the e17 repos currently down? I followed the how-to and have the packages listet in synaptic, but when I try to install e17 I get lots of 404 errors...

Sp4rKy
May 4th, 2007, 04:26 PM
hmm ,

strange, it should work.

can you paste the error log please ?

Thx

kvonb
May 4th, 2007, 06:10 PM
Tried it using the supplied Feisty repos on the first page, and this is the result:


Need to get 25.5MB of archives. After unpacking 37.2MB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] y
Writing extended state information... Done
Err http://edevelop.org feisty/e17 libecore1 0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1
404 Not Found
Err http://edevelop.org feisty/e17 libecore1-con 0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1
404 Not Found
Err http://edevelop.org feisty/e17 libecore1-ipc 0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1
404 Not Found
Err http://edevelop.org feisty/e17 libeet0 0.9.10.037+cvs20070428-1
404 Not Found
Err http://edevelop.org feisty/e17 libevas1 0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1
404 Not Found
Err http://edevelop.org feisty/e17 libecore1-config 0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1
404 Not Found


....and so on for another few pages.

Yes I followed the instructions to the letter, and of course I did the update frst :).

kvonb
May 4th, 2007, 06:14 PM
Ah, just saw this on edevelop.org:





Welcome to edevelop.org


Unexpected outage. (http://edevelop.org/node/3008)

Submitted by shadoi (http://edevelop.org/user/1) on Wed, 2007-01-31 05:45.
Very sorry about the surprise downtime folks, the hosting I had worked out for the server got yanked out from under me with no warning. The server has been installed in a new datacenter. All the sites hosted here should be coming back up.
In related news I'm planning to purchase a second server that can serve as a mirror and allow some nice things like load-balanced mirrors for the debian package repository.

ju^ju
May 4th, 2007, 06:54 PM
Yes, but: Submitted by shadoi on Wed, 2007-01-31 (!)

BarneyRubble
May 5th, 2007, 07:16 AM
I'm having difficulty downloading/installing e17 from the e17.dunnewind.net/ubuntu feisty repo. I seem to be connecting correctly, because aptitude can retrieve the package names and I can browse the directories on the server, but running aptitude install just generates a whole load of 404 errors?

Checking the output from aptitude against the filenames in the repo, I noticed that there were slight differences, e.g. aptitude tries to download
libecore1 0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1, but it's libecore1_0.9.9.037+cvs20070317-1_i386.deb in the repository.

Output from aptitude is below. Any suggestions gratefully received :)

xxxxx@Linux-desktop:~$ sudo aptitude install e17
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information
Initialising package states... Done
Building tag database... Done
The following NEW packages will be automatically installed:
emodule0-alarm emodule0-cpu emodule0-deskshow emodule0-flame
emodule0-forecasts emodule0-language emodule0-mail emodule0-mem
<snip>

The following NEW packages will be installed:
e17 emodule0-alarm emodule0-cpu emodule0-deskshow emodule0-flame
emodule0-forecasts emodule0-language emodule0-mail emodule0-mem
emodule0-mixer emodule0-moon emodule0-net emodule0-photo emodule0-rain
emodule0-screenshot emodule0-slideshow emodule0-snow emodule0-taskbar
<snip>

0 packages upgraded, 66 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 25.5MB of archives. After unpacking 37.2MB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] y
Writing extended state information... Done
Err http://e17.dunnewind.net feisty/e17 libecore1 0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1
404 Not Found [IP: 193.34.16.167 80]
Err http://e17.dunnewind.net feisty/e17 libecore1-con 0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1
404 Not Found [IP: 193.34.16.167 80]
Err http://e17.dunnewind.net feisty/e17 libecore1-ipc 0.9.9.037+cvs20070428-1
404 Not Found [IP: 193.34.16.167 80]
Err http://e17.dunnewind.net feisty/e17 libeet0 0.9.10.037+cvs20070428-1
404 Not Found [IP: 193.34.16.167 80]

...and so on for all packages.

foxy123
May 5th, 2007, 10:45 AM
does anyone know why they do not package emphasis? I cannot find it in the Elbuntu repos...

ju^ju
May 5th, 2007, 02:28 PM
Seems noone really knows why. Two days ago I was able to download all the packages on another system.
Strange...

skroll
May 5th, 2007, 09:22 PM
@BarneyRubble

It seems like they planned on updating the repository but never put the files. I'm getting the same thing, the db for the files is updated for the 04/28 binaries, but they do not exist on the site.

Hopefully it gets fixed.

BarneyRubble
May 5th, 2007, 09:36 PM
Thanks for the replies Skroll and Ju^Ju

Eventually, I tried installing using the edgy repo at the same address (just substituted edgy for feisty in the relevant /etc/apt/sources.list lines), and that (mostly) worked - some themes and emodules missing, installed later. It wasn't pretty, though :)

And I don't think they're the latest packages because the Gnome Update manager says it knows about 60 updates to e17, but can't access them. Sigh.

I'm back to Gnome and Beryl for now. Although Enlightenment's definitely worth a look, I'm not sure it's for me.

Anyway, thanks again for the replies - good luck!

skroll
May 5th, 2007, 09:51 PM
Thanks for the replies Skroll and Ju^Ju

Eventually, I tried installing using the edgy repo at the same address (just substituted edgy for feisty in the relevant /etc/apt/sources.list lines), and that (mostly) worked - some themes and emodules missing, installed later. It wasn't pretty, though :)

And I don't think they're the latest packages because the Gnome Update manager says it knows about 60 updates to e17, but can't access them. Sigh.

I'm back to Gnome and Beryl for now. Although Enlightenment's definitely worth a look, I'm not sure it's for me.

Anyway, thanks again for the replies - good luck!

I'll throw an email at one of the maintainers for the repo and see what's up. It seems that there is a newer version of the cvs that has been compiled for the repos, but hasn't been uploaded yet. Using the feisty repository should result in less broken packages as well.

1975H2C
May 6th, 2007, 03:35 AM
I used "deb http://edevelop.org/~lut1n/ubuntu feisty e17" and it installed .

And it seems to be working fine with the "Darkness Theme" , flames , rain and snow work.

But I do have a problem with "Milky Theme" ......... so I'm also going back to Gnome until this gets fixed.

skroll
May 6th, 2007, 04:19 AM
I used "deb http://edevelop.org/~lut1n/ubuntu feisty e17" and it installed .

And it seems to be working fine with the "Darkness Theme" , flames , rain and snow work.

But I do have a problem with "Milky Theme" ......... so I'm also going back to Gnome until this gets fixed.

It must've just been fixed, since I tried it a few hours ago and wasn't working. Thanks!

Lut!n
May 6th, 2007, 08:43 PM
Thanks for your reports, this is fixed
About miky : with the last version of e17, a bunch of themes have been broken, and milky is one of them. Milky is being worked on, but you might have a look at get-e.org to find another theme until this is fixed ;) (some are really good)
Cheers

JMO707
May 6th, 2007, 11:46 PM
Fantastic. I was using Beryl in Gnome, but what the hell..., e17 is beautiful and uses almost the half of resources =)

Just one question: anyway to get Entropy around here?

I couldnt find any .deb and dont like the way gtk apps look on e17.

litemotiv
May 7th, 2007, 10:44 AM
i tried e17 for the first time last night, and even with the current theme-breakage i have to admit i was pleasantly surprised. ;) it's very fast and responsive, and seems to be really focused on usability and adaptability. i will surely be checking for updates now and then to see where it's going.

one small question i might as well ask here right away: does anyone know how to make the filemanager open new directories in the same window? i'm not really digging the extra windows per click. ;)

b9anders
May 7th, 2007, 11:44 AM
I just installed enlightenment now and I have a couple of questions:

Is there a way I can make the windows in the ibox, ibar and pager transparent the same way they are in elive?

How can I set the pager to change desktops simply by scrolling the mousewheel over the desktop?

All the entries in the System menu folder in GNOME have gone missing in enlightenment - there's no GUI way for me to access synaptic, network settings etc. Help!

Is there a way for me to edit the menus to add applications not recognised and added to the menu automatically?

I downloaded eterm through synaptic but it wasn't added to the menu now have I been able to start it through the terminal. How do I run it?

How do I change the GTK theme?

JMO707
May 7th, 2007, 03:22 PM
I downloaded eterm through synaptic but it wasn't added to the menu now have I been able to start it through the terminal. How do I run it?


Haha, I just know this one because I couldnt at firsth neither ;)

Is "Eterm" the command, no "eterm"

hornett
May 7th, 2007, 08:11 PM
Anybody else have problems getting VLC to stop full screen? On my pc it leaves the screen blank and unresponsive :(

But i can switch to another desktop with the keys and run a terminal, so its not all bad :)

kvonb
May 8th, 2007, 05:58 AM
Excellent, all installed and working.

It's extremely fast compared to gnome, and I really like the menus.

Anyone know how to create a custom menu item? I want to create a launcher for Nautilus but can't seem to find how to do it!

b9anders
May 8th, 2007, 01:59 PM
Excellent, all installed and working.

It's extremely fast compared to gnome, and I really like the menus.

Anyone know how to create a custom menu item? I want to create a launcher for Nautilus but can't seem to find how to do it!

My not so elegant workaround was to simply add some utility to the ibar, then rightclick it and change the launcher properties to the program I wanted that I couldn't find.

If you're liking the speed, try and install the PCMan file manager. Incredibly fast.

Would like to try entropy but it doesn't seem to be made for Ubuntu yet and I am not keen on compiling myself.


Haha, I just know this one because I couldnt at firsth neither ;)

Is "Eterm" the command, no "eterm"

Cheers for that. I worked out how to change the gtk theme as well. And that transparency thing seems to be there just not working properly.

I wanted to try a new theme, accidentally chose the milky one and it seems to be of the buggy kind that I can't select anything in enlightenment windows. That means I can't select a new theme to replace it.:(

Any idea how I can change this another way?

kvonb
May 8th, 2007, 03:38 PM
My not so elegant workaround was to simply add some utility to the ibar, then rightclick it and change the launcher properties to the program I wanted that I couldn't find.

excellent idea, 10 out of 10 for ingenuity :)

Lut!n
May 8th, 2007, 05:37 PM
My not so elegant workaround was to simply add some utility to the ibar, then rightclick it and change the launcher properties to the program I wanted that I couldn't find.

If you're liking the speed, try and install the PCMan file manager. Incredibly fast.

Would like to try entropy but it doesn't seem to be made for Ubuntu yet and I am not keen on compiling myself.



Cheers for that. I worked out how to change the gtk theme as well. And that transparency thing seems to be there just not working properly.

I wanted to try a new theme, accidentally chose the milky one and it seems to be of the buggy kind that I can't select anything in enlightenment windows. That means I can't select a new theme to replace it.:(

Any idea how I can change this another way?

http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2586743&postcount=197

b9anders
May 9th, 2007, 12:07 PM
http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2586743&postcount=197

Thanks for that. I did look through the thread for an answer, but I must have missed that one.

n00b@linux
May 11th, 2007, 09:59 PM
I just upgraded to Feisty from Edgy.
I have a VIA UniChrome Pro GPU so I can't use Beryl or Compiz - E17 is my only chance at some desktop 'bling'.
I followed the instructions per tcrroadie's very first post and it worked without a hitch. Thanks to all the Elbuntu devs and to the Enlightenment devs as well!
Another satisfied (and thankful!) Ubuntu + E17 user.

I like to give back what I can (even though it's not much) so I thought I'd post this link (http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/2006_05_01_archive.html) to an interview with Rasterman (from the Enlightenment project). Although the interview is 12 months old, it's nonetheless interesting, particularly for its views on E17 and OpenGL.

nlogax
May 12th, 2007, 09:43 AM
My not so elegant workaround was to simply add some utility to the ibar, then rightclick it and change the launcher properties to the program I wanted that I couldn't find.

Another way is to press ALT+ESC to bring up the run dialog, then type part of the name of the progam and select it from the list that is displayed.

Once it's running, there's a 'Create icon' option if you click on the box at the top left of the window.

Once you have an icon you should be able to add it to your favourites by clicking the box at the top left.

Ledah
May 25th, 2007, 08:50 PM
The installation diesn't work for me :(
I added the repositories for Feisty and updated the sources list, but apt-get gives me an error. e17 deponds on enlightenment (>= 0.16.999), but it should not be installed. The same for emodules0-all (>= 0.16.999). It also depends on libevas1-loaders-all, but this package is not installable.
The /etc/apt/preferences is emty.

Ledah
May 26th, 2007, 11:16 AM
It seems that all 64bit packages of the libevas-libraries are missing.

Edit: The problem is solved. I sent a mail and the missing packages are available now.

adamJ5
May 26th, 2007, 04:35 PM
Isn't there a notification area or systray or something ine E17?

Ledah
May 26th, 2007, 08:00 PM
I was also looking for it, but I didn't find one :-k


Does E17 have systray support ?
No, there will be no tray icon support in E17 until the systray icon standard is changed.
Carsten 'Rasterman' Haitzler wrote:

"The Systray specification that somehow users seem to ask for and applications seem to use that is specified here primarily, is not as nice as you may think. It is in fact rather ugly and limited. It leads to awful interfaces and inconsistent behavior and display."

For the full text of this article, along with a screenshot, please see Rasterman.com.

Most people end up using trayer or engage.

foxy123
May 27th, 2007, 10:55 AM
I was also looking for it, but I didn't find one :-k
it is Rasterman's belief that
The Systray specification... is in fact rather ugly and limited. and as he stated on e17 mail list
there is, and will be, no system tray support in e17. use something else like trayer.

you can also try stalonetray:http://stalonetray.sourceforge.net or even itask NG, which is an unofficial e17 module devised to replace engage. Engage itself is dead.

sonicborg
June 3rd, 2007, 04:45 PM
would like to get iTask NG but dont seem to be able to find a download for it ?

really need a nice friendly menu editor too :)

sonicborg
June 3rd, 2007, 06:10 PM
i noticed that alot of people have really nice Icon launchers along one side, or bottom of their screens (bit like the one on apples) how are you getting this? because if i add a 2nd shelf, make it transparent, with the ibar gadget in it, i can not add custom applications, i am only limited to the select few that enlightenment has automaticly found. everying in my own personal apps menu etc i can not select.

SAMW
June 4th, 2007, 11:37 PM
Ummmm I'm pretty sure I haven't messed anything up, but I keep getting e16 instead of 17....

I used this repo:

## E17 repository "edevelop.org"
deb http://edevelop.org/pkg-e/ubuntu edgy e17
deb-src http://edevelop.org/pkg-e/ubuntu edgy e17

tcrroadie
June 5th, 2007, 03:12 AM
First remove e16.


sudo aptitude purge enlightenment

Then could you please post your screen output when you try to install E17?


sudo aptitude install e17

Thanks.

Hatchetfish
June 7th, 2007, 01:32 AM
So here's an odd one. According to apt the install went wonderfully, and the sessions are there in the menu, but logging in with E17 tells me /opt/e17/bin/enlightenment can't be found. Which makes sense. It isn't there. I searched and found post 401, saying it's changed to /opt/e17/bin/enlightenment-start. (or _start, can't remember) Fine, but that's not there either. In fact, here's ls in /opt/e17/bin. note the lack of enlightement-anything-whatsoever:


ls /opt/e17/bin/
compare_results embryo_cc etk_test
ecore_alloc embryo-config evas-config
ecore_config emotion-config ewl_config
ecore-config emotion_test ewl-config
edb-config engrave_canvas_test ewl_embed_test
edb_ed engrave-config ewl_simple_test
edb_gtk_ed engrave_test ewl_test
edb_vt_ed epeg imlib2_bumpmap
edje_cc epeg-config imlib2_colorspace
edje-config epsilon imlib2-config
edje_decc epsilon-config imlib2_conv
edje_recc epsilon_thumbd imlib2_grab
efreet_alloc epsilon_thumb_test imlib2_poly
efreet_cache_test esmart-config imlib2_show
efreet-config esmart_file_dialog_test imlib2_test
efreet_menu_alloc esmart_test imlib2_view
efreet_spec_test etk-config
efreet_test etk_prefs

so, question is, where has it gone/what's it called now? Since everything seems to have installed fine, I'm inclined to think it's been moved again and the session file not updated with it.

quazi
June 12th, 2007, 09:10 PM
Thanks for the howto, it worked great. I'm having an issue with the fonts. The basic system font sizes are fine, but the font size in most of my applications is really big. See the picture to see what I'm talking about. Any ideas on how to make them smaller.

I'm having the same issue, but this doesn't seem to be resolving it. To clarify, I should make a file (Installed with Kubuntu, so there's no gtkrc file there initially) ,gtkrc-2.0 and include the following lines:



gtk-font-name = "Bitstream Vera Sans 7"
gtk-theme-name = "Gant"
gtk-icon-theme-name = "Gant"

where Gant is the theme I'm using?

Since I don't have the Gnome desktop installed is there another way I should be trying to solve this?

EDIT: Well after I restarted X I've managed to fix gtk programs, but Firefox is still hideous.
EDIT: And reinstalling firefox fixed that.

hybernate20
June 27th, 2007, 04:38 PM
E: Failed to fetch http://e17.dunnewind.net/ubuntu/pool/feisty/e17/i386/enlightenment-data_0.16.999.038+cvs20070606-1_all.deb: MD5Sum mismatch


I get that every time with both repos

airtonix
July 9th, 2007, 06:24 AM
Feisty install went well.

still a few crashes though.

Sp4rKy
July 9th, 2007, 07:25 AM
E: Failed to fetch http://e17.dunnewind.net/ubuntu/pool/feisty/e17/i386/enlightenment-data_0.16.999.038+cvs20070606-1_all.deb: MD5Sum mismatch


I get that every time with both repos

really strange. You can get this kind of error during the update, but not every time ...
Do you update before ?

Brian96
July 10th, 2007, 05:01 AM
Feisty install went well.

still a few crashes though.

I had quite a few the first few days I used it, but it seems to behave itself lately. And I haven't had any fatal crashes in quite a while.

Carbon Tiger
July 12th, 2007, 05:26 AM
The install worked great its a very interesting GUI. I do have one question is there a way to make my desktop folders invisible ? I don't want to move them just make it so they don't list on the desktop.

worldwithoutgurus
July 12th, 2007, 05:24 PM
Drag and drop them into the Files (favorites) window.

yosef
July 24th, 2007, 01:00 PM
I installed e17 as per tutorial, loggedout. logged in. It was great! Until I changed themes... then all menus were blank,rightclick menu, leftclick menu, centerclick mennu... even the taskbar/panel thingy had no icons on it whatsoever! I really like e17 but I barely got to play with it! How can I fix it when I cant even open up a commandline or change themes or anything! Please help!

Perfex
July 25th, 2007, 08:04 AM
Hmm.

Seems like the latest version has problems displaying the thumbs of images..

none via file manager or change wall, etc

picpak
July 26th, 2007, 03:57 AM
I installed e17 as per tutorial, loggedout. logged in. It was great! Until I changed themes... then all menus were blank,rightclick menu, leftclick menu, centerclick mennu... even the taskbar/panel thingy had no icons on it whatsoever! I really like e17 but I barely got to play with it! How can I fix it when I cant even open up a commandline or change themes or anything! Please help!

Ugh, I'm having the same problem! It came from the latest updates. Any help?

yosef
July 26th, 2007, 07:36 AM
I just aptitude purged and then installed anew... to no avail!

thexaspect
July 28th, 2007, 10:18 PM
Yeah, same problem here. I changed themes just screwing around, and apparently the "Dark" theme doesnt change the text color from black to, well, anything readable, hence, I can't see anything. Relog and back into plain old gnome again woopie!

eode
July 29th, 2007, 02:18 AM
..well, it looks like the 'bling' theme still works. Maybe they changed how themes are handled, and most themes have yet to switch over.

Freddy
July 30th, 2007, 08:18 PM
I suggest that you never use themes found at the repository or those installed with the e17 package, instead visit get-e (http://www.get-e.org), they list those themes that currently work with Enlightenment.

/Freddan

Freddy
July 30th, 2007, 08:23 PM
Hi all.
I have a couple of question and hopefully someone with some more knowledge sees them here.

What is the lib packages etk and ewl more exactly? I thought etk themes should theme those applications written for Enlightenment, but what do they do? How do I change the theme etk are currently using, I installed a etk theme named Detour but have found no way to select that theme.

/Freddan

TravMan63
July 31st, 2007, 11:31 PM
I tried this - and MANY things broke!

1) wireless
2) mouse (touchpad and stick - laptop)
3) when I log in - this error (to gnome/enlightenment)
error creating the child process for this terminal

4) can't connect via ssh (ssh server) <-- is all that is ok now
5) entrance STILL is just a grey screen with an X (that's all I needed 'fixed')
---- I had removed e17 then tried to reinstall it - there were packages that wouldnot install (enlightenment and enlightenment-data) - and then....

This isn't going to be fun....

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sirtimbly
August 3rd, 2007, 05:39 AM
but E17 has been in the works for a very long time now (at least two years).


Hah! More like 7 years.