Nice review of Hoary

[joplass]

Guys,
Go here (http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,120520,00.asp) and read a great article on Ubuntu.
I learned a few things from it myself

[bored2k]

Nice professional review. I'm glad he didn't fell in the stupid pit 90% of the reviews fall: the distro color. Everyone's so used to blue/red that they don't even want a change. It's like saying "I'm doing in my Windows box, why change it?". I liked how he in a very few lines described Debian and its supercow powers in a way the biggest windows/mac user would understand.

[defkewl]

Thanks for sharing it with us. It's a very clean and professional review.

[Leif]

For once, a write-up that deserves to be called a review, and not because it is so positive (which it is), but because it summarizes the main points of ubuntu, and even goes on to include links to how to do the stuff a lot of new users would need - mp3, dvd etc.

[seven]

Great review, thanks

[bored2k]

By the way his computers ran fine, but I think he should have mentioned some of the ndiswrapper/ati-nvidia problems some are experiencing, so people don't take him as a liar if they encounter these. It's a PC World review after all, lot of people will read that.

[panickedthumb]

Rock on, nice review. Most, even the good ones say-- "Welp, it's brown. Don't like that but, everything else seems to work quite well! Good job Ubuntu" without even GOING anywhere with it.

It seems that the spatial hack that took us by storm is getting Ubuntu what little bad press that it is getting now.

[joplass]

By the way his computers ran fine, but I think he should have mentioned some of the ndiswrapper/ati-nvidia problems some are experiencing, so people don't take him as a liar if they encounter these. It's a PC World review after all, lot of people will read that.

To start I will say that I have been using Linux for at least 5 years but I can't begin to pretend that I am a Linux expert. Now installing ndiswrapper and making it work with my wireless card was going to be easy if only I had followed all the instructions the first time around. What I mean is the information is out there if regular users need it. Meanwhile, please let's read and follow all instructions and I mean all of them.

[Brunellus]

By the way his computers ran fine, but I think he should have mentioned some of the ndiswrapper/ati-nvidia problems some are experiencing, so people don't take him as a liar if they encounter these. It's a PC World review after all, lot of people will read that.
ndiswrapper problems???

You mean to tell me that there's an outstanding isssue with ndiswrapper in hoary? great. This means I probably won't be able to get my wlan up and running again, after all. I went ahead and upgraded, and now ndiswrapper doesn't run for me.

I'd be really pleased if I had 'net access, since everything seems to look nice. But disconnection is irksome. Good thing the reviewer didn't run into any problems like this!

[poofyhairguy]

I'd be really pleased if I had 'net access, since everything seems to look nice. But disconnection is irksome. Good thing the reviewer didn't run into any problems like this!


You just have to do the work yourself. Wireless is so overrated...

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683

[Brunellus]

You just have to do the work yourself. Wireless is so overrated...

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683
Wireless is not overrated if it's your only means of getting online. I can't run cat 5 cable up two floors in this case.

Thanks for the link, but even a modprobe of ndiswrapper did not get wlan0 up and running. It worked in Warty, not in Hoary, and now I can't go back.

Alas.

[Domhnull]

You may have already considered this and rejected it - but I use a Linksys Wireless Ethernet Bridge (WET11) (http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?prid=602&scid=36) on my machine. Works without problems and it is much faster than the wireless cards we'd been using. My wife uses one on her Windows box too. The setup program is a Windows program, I used it to configure the device. There is a web browser interface but I don't know if you can use that to set it up or not.

[Brunellus]

You may have already considered this and rejected it - but I use a Linksys Wireless Ethernet Bridge (WET11) (http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?prid=602&scid=36) on my machine. Works without problems and it is much faster than the wireless cards we'd been using. My wife uses one on her Windows box too. The setup program is a Windows program, I used it to configure the device. There is a web browser interface but I don't know if you can use that to set it up or not.
yeah I had considered that option, and yes, I had rejected it. It remains an interesting thing to think about, though.

in other news, I was able to get everything up and running. I was an idiot: I keep forgetting to $ifup wlan0 after I do all the ndiswrapper stuff. that's something they never tell you in the howto docs, and something that I keep forgetting. the stuff you do when you're tired and haven't slept properly....

OK, I'm going to quit hijacking this thread now.