Updates?

[Silvio Moioli]

Hi everyone,
maybe this is just a newbie silly question but: how come there are no updated packages in Hoary until now? I mean, wine hasn't been updated yet. Nor is Firefox (I'm using version 1.02 when 1.03 has come out since sometime, with the security issue solved). Obviously I enabled all the repositories (including updates, universe and multiverse), and I was wondering if all this is normal. I've been using Fedora and Suse for some time, and the package updates were regular, in some cases even 4-5 packages a week.

Thanks in advance,

[deuce868]

I think this is how it works. I hit me too that there haven't been any updates to hoary really. It seems once one release is done they go toward the next release. I don't think there will be updates as we're used to thinking of them with other distributions. This is the stable ubuntu for now and in 6 months we'll get the updates.

I'm still working on if that works for me or not.

[Fab]

I think this is how it works. I hit me too that there haven't been any updates to hoary really. It seems once one release is done they go toward the next release. I don't think there will be updates as we're used to thinking of them with other distributions. This is the stable ubuntu for now and in 6 months we'll get the updates.

I'm still working on if that works for me or not.
security fixes are backported to hoary, the numbering sheme is different toh

e.g. the ubuntu firefox 1.0.2 has some (or all) of the fixes of official firefox 1.0.3
if you want the bleeding edge, try the breezy repos as soon as they are semi stable

[DJ_Max]

security fixes are backported to hoary, the numbering sheme is different toh

e.g. the ubuntu firefox 1.0.2 has some (or all) of the fixes of official firefox 1.0.3
if you want the bleeding edge, try the breezy repos as soon as they are semi stable
You should only use breezy's repositories if and when you are upgrading to Breezy Badger. Which is in Development, and will be for another 5 months.

[Silvio Moioli]

You should only use breezy's repositories if and when you are upgrading to Breezy Badger. Which is in Development, and will be for another 5 months.
Okay, thanks a lot for the quick answers.

[In.]

Hm... when Breezy will be 'semi stable'?

I used Breezy repos just after hoary was released but I almost crashed my system then. A lot of things stopped to work and I was scared. Next week I spent on downgrading Breezy to Hoary... it was very hard work... But no upgrades now for 6 months?!? I love to use quite new and quite stable packages... (like it was in debian's testing repos)... I like Ubuntu very much, but no updates?

[heimo]

Hm... when Breezy will be 'semi stable'? This forum is best place to find out. But it's not like a steady progress from totaly "unstable" to stable. It's going to be unstable until it's freezed.

Stable here is not referreing to stability of programs, but the fact that packages will be changing and some dependency and incompatibility issues will arise. When breezy gets freezed, starts the final stabilization process and rest of the problems will be solved. This is in my opinion, the most important period when thorough testing is needed. (I'm not a developer.)

Then Breezy will (EDIT: s/become stable/be released/) (10/2005) and only security updates will be incorporated.

[In.]

Thanks for Your answer heimo :)

I understand that... so another question... (the same question in another form ;))... when do You think it will be "safe" to switch to Breezy?

I'll explain... I moved from my lovely debian testing to ubuntu about 2 months ago. I used Hoary repos and I was delighted: everything was new and (almost everything) stable. And I was very happy because I could download a lot of new updates every single day :D
And now I know that I cannot upgrade everything to Breezy because I can break my system (and vice versa)...

Thanks for the great work and best regards !

[In.]

I just solved my problem... backports.ubuntuforums.org :D

Regards.

[DJ_Max]

Thanks for Your answer heimo :)

I understand that... so another question... (the same question in another form ;))... when do You think it will be "safe" to switch to Breezy?

I'll explain... I moved from my lovely debian testing to ubuntu about 2 months ago. I used Hoary repos and I was delighted: everything was new and (almost everything) stable. And I was very happy because I could download a lot of new updates every single day :D
And now I know that I cannot upgrade everything to Breezy because I can break my system (and vice versa)...

Thanks for the great work and best regards !
Depends on how familar you are with Linux, for most people, it will probably be 1 month before offcial release, when they start creating Array's 1-7 in an ISO image.

[Ubunted]

security fixes are backported to hoary, the numbering sheme is different toh

e.g. the ubuntu firefox 1.0.2 has some (or all) of the fixes of official firefox 1.0.3
if you want the bleeding edge, try the breezy repos as soon as they are semi stable
That may be the intent, but the JavaScript vulnerability still exists in the 1.0.2 that came with this distro, and I have downloaded no updates that apply to Firefox.

[ceti]

There are 02 updates since yesterday: Firefox & Firefox-gnome support. Read thread in this forum (one-week delay etc).
ceti