Warbo
November 6th, 2006, 01:05 PM
Hi, I am glad to hear that Flash is installable in Ubuntu (maybe you can update this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FlashPlayerStandalone ). I was trying to get a standalone Flash player, and I knew there was one bundled with the trial, but my experience has been that Flash MX (Flash 6) installs OK, but runs terribly, and the native Flash player is 7 anyway. MX 2004 (7) and 8 don't install, as you found, but I didn't bother going any further. I now have the standalone Flash 9 player, and obviously Gnash, but that isn't the main reason I started this thread:
In terms of Open Source Flash alternatives, there are 3 major ones: Synfig seems the most advanced, but I couldn't get it to work for me (the interface comes up, but I get errors when trying to do anything), Ktoon is also popular, but I haven't tried it myself, and Flash4Linux does actually support a couple of features, although the interface is awful (it is a complete copy of the Flash interface, even though most of the buttons don't actually do anything!).
However, I have found the best animation tool on Ubuntu, by far, is Moho from LostMarble.com (although it seems to have changed it's name to "AnimeStudio" which doesn't have a GNU/Linux port yet), it may still be downloadable through GnomeFiles though. As an animator it is much more powerful than Flash (well, the last Flash I used was MX 2004) and it costs much less too! (Well, Moho cost me £65, I don't know about AnimeStudio, it seems to have split into a basic version and a premium version, but I do get a free upgrade when it gets released for GNU/Linux). I think you guys should try to get hold of the demo, along with Papagayo (a little Open Source tool which makes lip-syncing easy) and give it a whirl. As far as I know the demo is fully featured, except rendered images are covered with a watermark and rendered SWF (Flash) files are black and white. If you give it a go then check out some of my handy little tips here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Moho
If you feel you'd like a more experienced animator to go through it's features a little then I might be able to hook myslef up to the Interweb with a microphone.
I sent you an email a while ago requesting a mention for this program, but don't think I'm some astroturf marketing guy, I just genuinely think this software is going unrecognised next to Flash, even though I prefer it, and your comments about "no alternative to Flash on Ubuntu" is WRONG, which is why I really had to ask again (and before you make a comment like "but everyone uses Flash", just remember that I will reply "Everyone uses Windows, but the potential Moho/AnimeStudio users are the ones that want to switch away from the norm!" :) )
I still support Synfig since it is Open Source, but sorry guys I need something usable until you are ready :(
In terms of Open Source Flash alternatives, there are 3 major ones: Synfig seems the most advanced, but I couldn't get it to work for me (the interface comes up, but I get errors when trying to do anything), Ktoon is also popular, but I haven't tried it myself, and Flash4Linux does actually support a couple of features, although the interface is awful (it is a complete copy of the Flash interface, even though most of the buttons don't actually do anything!).
However, I have found the best animation tool on Ubuntu, by far, is Moho from LostMarble.com (although it seems to have changed it's name to "AnimeStudio" which doesn't have a GNU/Linux port yet), it may still be downloadable through GnomeFiles though. As an animator it is much more powerful than Flash (well, the last Flash I used was MX 2004) and it costs much less too! (Well, Moho cost me £65, I don't know about AnimeStudio, it seems to have split into a basic version and a premium version, but I do get a free upgrade when it gets released for GNU/Linux). I think you guys should try to get hold of the demo, along with Papagayo (a little Open Source tool which makes lip-syncing easy) and give it a whirl. As far as I know the demo is fully featured, except rendered images are covered with a watermark and rendered SWF (Flash) files are black and white. If you give it a go then check out some of my handy little tips here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Moho
If you feel you'd like a more experienced animator to go through it's features a little then I might be able to hook myslef up to the Interweb with a microphone.
I sent you an email a while ago requesting a mention for this program, but don't think I'm some astroturf marketing guy, I just genuinely think this software is going unrecognised next to Flash, even though I prefer it, and your comments about "no alternative to Flash on Ubuntu" is WRONG, which is why I really had to ask again (and before you make a comment like "but everyone uses Flash", just remember that I will reply "Everyone uses Windows, but the potential Moho/AnimeStudio users are the ones that want to switch away from the norm!" :) )
I still support Synfig since it is Open Source, but sorry guys I need something usable until you are ready :(