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jdong
October 9th, 2006, 11:38 PM
I'm not gonna do a FC6 Preview review, but I've just installed the test release on my AMD64 shuttle (32-bit edition). My overall review is quite positive with the overall FC6 polish. Performance is definitely a vast improvement from FC5, but compared to Edgy it's about the same, so I attribute it to general upstream improvements.

One gripe I have is, after installing it, there were 194 updates available as reported by puplet, but from the time I opened the updater to the time it finished resolving dependencies, 7 minutes passed. On a AMD64 hooked up to a 500KB/s download pipeline, this is quite unacceptable. It takes ubuntu's distribution updater around 5 seconds on that box to calculate a dapper to Edgy upgrade (25 seconds if you count an apt-get update to be fair).

Will yum ever get faster? I don't know, but that is one of the biggest turnoffs for me when it comes to Fedora Core.
tseliot
October 10th, 2006, 04:37 AM
I know what you mean...

If only they used something like pacman (Arch Linux) or apt, things would be much faster.
clint1010
October 11th, 2006, 08:06 AM
Apt would be the way to go. But they would have to stick with yum and their rpm packaging system to prevent fedora/redhat kaos if it was changed.
bluenova
October 11th, 2006, 08:13 AM
Yum was the biggest reason I moved to Ubuntu. I never again want to have to get my software from 30 differnt sources.
hey_ian
October 16th, 2006, 07:46 AM
Everyone who tried APT will know that it is faster and better than YUM. Anyway I think you can install apt-rpm on a Fedora Core system. This is just the same APT as in Debian but ported to the RPM system instead of dpkg.
jdong
October 16th, 2006, 09:49 AM
I prefer not to use APT4RPM.... IMO yum is more reliable and supported on RPM systems. Also, if you are on x86-64, yum is the only frontend that supports multiarch (i.e. yum install firefox.i386)
chaosgeisterchen
October 23rd, 2006, 03:20 AM
Question: Is KDE really performing faster than with Kubuntu with FC 6?
jdong
October 23rd, 2006, 09:44 AM
The difference is not significant.
chaosgeisterchen
October 23rd, 2006, 11:17 AM
Too bad.
tseliot
October 23rd, 2006, 01:35 PM
Also, if you are on x86-64, yum is the only frontend that supports multiarch (i.e. yum install firefox.i386)
That's a cool feature. I might try Fedora Core 6 x86-64.

Does Fedora 64bit work fine?
jdong
October 23rd, 2006, 01:38 PM
It works just as well as Ubuntu 64-bit or SUSE 64-bit or most other modern distro 64-bit support... nothing groundbreaking, nothing crippling other than the usual culprits (proprietary/non-free stuff), but most people don't run Fedora for out-of-the-box win32codecs support anyway :D
jdong
October 31st, 2006, 09:28 PM
UPDATE: After using Yum for a while, it does get substantially better. Namely, once you grab a bunch of the RPM headers, you don't need to do it anymore, which greatly speeds up YUM work. It's better than I initially thought, but nonetheless the initial 30+ minute rpm header fetching session is unacceptably slow.
raqball
November 1st, 2006, 01:00 PM
When I was on Suse I used smart and it worked great.

I don't think yum will ever get better :)
hey_ian
November 1st, 2006, 04:02 PM
When I was on Suse I used smart and it worked great.

I don't think yum will ever get better :)

As a matter of fact that is also my opinion. I do not know why they do not want to change the package manager and take e.g. smart.
hey_ian
November 1st, 2006, 04:05 PM
UPDATE: After using Yum for a while, it does get substantially better. Namely, once you grab a bunch of the RPM headers, you don't need to do it anymore, which greatly speeds up YUM work. It's better than I initially thought, but nonetheless the initial 30+ minute rpm header fetching session is unacceptably slow.


It is right you do not have to reload the RPM headers, but it is recommended to do that and it does not take 30+ minutes, but approx. 5 minutes. You should clean the YUM cache with "yum clean all" if you want to install new software. You do the same if you want to install a new package in Debian, but we call it apt-get update. :-D
jdong
November 1st, 2006, 06:05 PM
This is my 5th or 6th fresh install of FC5/6, and I can say with consistency that the process of calculating the first upgrade takes no less than 30 minutes on the first run. apt-get update is never that laggy...
hey_ian
November 2nd, 2006, 06:11 PM
This is my 5th or 6th fresh install of FC5/6, and I can say with consistency that the process of calculating the first upgrade takes no less than 30 minutes on the first run. apt-get update is never that laggy...


Of course APT is not as slow and laggy as yum. I thing the only one alternative using Fedora Core is to install Smart Package Manager instead of yum.