why is fedora 'core' so big

[NoTiG]

whats that thing packin

im currently downloading just to play around. its bi-arch isn't it ?

its like 4 GB . i guess it will be like 15 GB when its fullin unpacked or something???

edit: just saw the "discuss other OS's" forum . whoops

[BWF89]

You only need the first 2 CD's for a desktop install.

[qamelian]

One of the reasons it's so big is the number of packages on the disc. Where Ubuntu and its derivatives attempt to provide a simple, sensible default set off applications for each desktop environment, and only one desktop environment per "flavour", Fedora throws pretty much every thing into the initial discs. That's why a full Fedora install comes on either 1 DVD or up to 4 or 5 CDs, while Ubuntu only needs 1 CD.

[AlexC_]

mmmm, I wondered this to when I was going to try Fedora Core 5 - I looked at the download size and thought forget that, so I found a place that sold the FC5 DVD for like £2 including postage and arrived in a few days. Much faster than downloading it!

[gnomeuser]

You could also just download the netinstall ISO which is 8 megs, then via the Anaconda installer select what you want.

As of FC6 I think they allow you to install directly from 3rd party repos as well so you could install you entire system, packages from Core, Extras, whatever (meaning a system with all that nice multimedia support e.g.).

But their thinking is that rather wasting time cutting down package sizes with the specific goal of hitting a 650MB cd, they want to spend development time on other things - the idea seems to be that DVD burners are getting cheap and no OEM pc really ships without them anymore, also internet connections are getting faster so downloading a DVD image overnight isn't a big problem. For those cases where it is the netinstall cd is an excellent option.

[ComplexNumber]

whats that thing packin

im currently downloading just to play around. its bi-arch isn't it ?

its like 4 GB . i guess it will be like 15 GB when its fullin unpacked or something???

edit: just saw the "discuss other OS's" forum . whoops
bear i mind that not everyone has an internet connection. if you're such a user, which will appeal most of all - ubuntu with its sparse 1 cd or fedora with its 4GB dvd? plus, unlike ubuntu, you can select what packages you want installing during the install process.

[Lord Illidan]

bear i mind that not everyone has an internet connection. if you're such a user, which will appeal most of all - ubuntu with its sparse 1 cd or fedora with its 4GB dvd? plus, unlike ubuntu, you can select what packages you want installing during the install process.

aye, but if you want -dev packages then you are out of luck in Ubuntu as not even gcc is provided...while if you get a fedora dvd you can do anything. EDIT -- well..almost :)

[darkhatter]

take a look at debian its like 7 disks.

[NoTiG]

well i downloaded fedora 6 through bit torrent........ it actually only took a couple of hours to install. i was getting 600-700 kb/s on bit torrent . and i just got a dvd burner with my new computer so its all burned already. im going to try installing it through virtualization and run it in vmware just so i can play with it (especially rpm) while following the plethora of networking/administrator guides on the internet which all seem to focus on red hat.

[Michael_aust]

"take a look at debian its like 7 disks."

Debian is actually 14 Cd's or 2 dvd's. Although you only need the first two Cd's for most systems. The popularity of packages determines which disk it goes on. So Gnome, Kde, apache, mysql etc would all be on the first and second disk.

[darkhatter]

14!?!?!?!?!

kind of like the ubuntu dvd it doesn't install all the packages on it just a few of them, fedora isn't that huge but its big. If you buy a copy of Suse you get a dual layer dvd with a crap load of apps on it.

[Kingsley]

i'll most likely be waiting for fc6 to come out and then delete my ubuntu partition :(. i need new stuff to experiment with.

[anaconda]

unlike ubuntu, you can select what packages you want installing during the install process.

Well.. yeah, but I once selected wery carefully what to install, (to make a minimal installation)and in the end fedora core said that it had to install almost everything that I unselected anyway, to meet some depencies..

[ComplexNumber]

Well.. yeah, but I once selected wery carefully what to install, (to make a minimal installation)and in the end fedora core said that it had to install almost everything that I unselected anyway, to meet some depencies..


apparently its going to be different with FC6.

[mysticrider92]

i'll most likely be waiting for fc6 to come out and then delete my ubuntu partition :(. i need new stuff to experiment with.

That is what I want to do. Maybe dual boot mine though.

Are there certain disks I can download for a minimal install so I don't need to use 6 disks or a dvd? I have already made 4 coasters trying to get Knoppix and StartCom to work.

[Contrid]

You only need the first 2 CD's for a desktop install.

How does that work?
Could you explain some more?