Install Ubuntu CE Dansguardian GUI in default Ubuntu...

[mhancoc7]

There have been numerous requests for the Dansguardian GUI that is used in Ubuntu CE from those who are using default Ubuntu. I decided to add some scripts to the project to accomplish this.

There are two scripts.

The first one will install Dansguardian preconfigured with the GUI.
Click Here (http://www.whatwouldjesusdownload.com/christianubuntu/2006/07/download.html)

The second one will install the Dansguardian GUI only. This is for users who are already using Dansguardian on there default Ubuntu installation and would like to add the Dansguardian GUI from Ubuntu CE.
Click Here (http://www.whatwouldjesusdownload.com/christianubuntu/2006/09/dansguardian-gui-only.html)

Thanks, Jereme

[Raphink]

I reckon that it would be nice to have a Dansguardian GUI in Ubuntu, and that your script might be a nice one.

We are working hard in Ubuntu to provide the best pieces of open-source software to our users, in a way that provides traceability and the ability to automatically upgrade and get security and general updates. We do not encourage the use of 3rd party scripts to our users.

The Ubuntu community is always happy to welcome new developers in its midst. For the universe side of Ubuntu, we gather on #ubuntu-motu on the Freenode IRC network. An IRC channel has been set to serve as a MOTU school on #ubuntu-motu-school. There is also a special team dedicated to mentoring people who want to learn about packaging and provide new packages in Ubuntu, and this team will be happy to help you package your script. With all these projects, Ubuntu is among the open-source projects that put the most resources in helping new developers integrate their projects properly in Ubuntu.

Hope to see you in Ubuntu soon.


God bless

Raphaël

[mhancoc7]

I reckon that it would be nice to have a Dansguardian GUI in Ubuntu, and that your script might be a nice one.

We are working hard in Ubuntu to provide the best pieces of open-source software to our users, in a way that provides traceability and the ability to automatically upgrade and get security and general updates. We do not encourage the use of 3rd party scripts to our users.

The Ubuntu community is always happy to welcome new developers in its midst. For the universe side of Ubuntu, we gather on #ubuntu-motu on the Freenode IRC network. An IRC channel has been set to serve as a MOTU school on #ubuntu-motu-school. There is also a special team dedicated to mentoring people who want to learn about packaging and provide new packages in Ubuntu, and this team will be happy to help you package your script. With all these projects, Ubuntu is among the open-source projects that put the most resources in helping new developers integrate their projects properly in Ubuntu.

Hope to see you in Ubuntu soon.


God bless

Raphaël

Hi Raphael,
Have you taken a look at the scripts?

I appreciate your welcoming me into Ubuntu. Honestly I am not sure how I feel about it though. I am trying very hard to compromise. I explain this a bit more in the email that I just sent you.

I am really passionate about my project as I assume you are with yours. I am just starting to feel a little pressured to merge or change my project to be more like yours. I may be wrong about this, but some of your recent posts have given me this impression. I want you to feel welcome on this forum and the Ubuntu CE Development Forum (http://forums.churchforge.net/index.php?c=7). However, I do not want to feel as if you are trying to pull users from my project because you disagree with the path that I have taken in its development.

I hope you understand that I am not trying to accuse you of this, but I felt like it was time for me to respond to you about my feelings on this situation. I may be completely wrong about the intentions of your posts. If so I apologize and hope that we can continue to support each other in our seperate endevours.

God Bless, Jereme

[Raphink]

Hi Jereme,

Yes, I had a look at your scripts.

It is not my intention at all to draw users from Ubuntu CE.

I am not talking as the Ichthux leader here, but as an Ubuntu developer.

In this thread, you are talking about contributing back to Ubuntu. When it comes to contributing to Ubuntu, I think it important to have contacts with the Ubuntu development team and to be sure your contributions are positive for Ubuntu. The vision of the Ubuntu project is to provide a desktop environment that is fully made of open-source projects, and that is properly set by default, using only packages to achieve that goal. It is not our goal that users use tons of scripts after install to get to this result, but we welcome all developers who are willing to help improving the default Look&Feel of Ubuntu.

I am not trying to get your project to look more like Ichthux, but I post in this forum to try and prevent people from duplicating work. There are not enough developers in the open-source world to duplicate things imo, and there are even less caring about Christian apps and contents.

Whether it is about Ubuntu CE or about other things, I often warn users about the risks of the actions they take when using Ubuntu. I answer emails about using sudo vs. setting a root passwd and such or about the issues in using Automatix. I consider it my role to let users know when there are easier/more secure/more reliable ways to do things on their Ubuntu install, and I contact developers (on KDE-apps/GNOME-apps/others) who provide scripts or unofficial packages to encourage them to join the Ubuntu team officially to work together with us. I care even more about Ubuntu CE because I have had the project of a Christian OS for quite a long time.

However, if you feel agressed by my comments, I will stop giving advice about development issues and will only post to warn users about the use of some tools.


Raphaël

[mhancoc7]

Hi Raphael,

I appreciate you listening to my concerns.

I am not sure that I am really Ubuntu Developer material. I also am not sure that I want to be one. I mean as it is now I can control the future of my project. I do not want to lose that ability. I also mentioned in the email that I sent you about the possiblility of releasing an alternate version of Ubuntu CE. It will be Ubuntu CE OSS and will not include any of the proprietary stuff (wallpapers, firefox theme, automatix). I feel that this would be a good compromise to part of this issue.

As for the scripts, I am not sure that I want to take any other route. I mean it would be wonderful if someone wanted to take my scripts and package them for Ubuntu. I don't really see the need since the scripts work just fine. I understand that the Ubuntu developers want to be sure that the stuff that gets included in Ubuntu is up to a certain quality. However, if the Ubuntu Developers want to control everyones projects that add to Ubuntu in some way then is it really OSS?

I am not trying to be rude, it is just that I watched as Automatix got pushed out of these forums and I don't want the same thing to happen here. I know that Automatix left by their request, but it is quite obvious to me that the Ubuntu Developers do not like Automatix and seem to be out to bash it at any opportunity.

I think this is unfortunate. As an Ubuntu user since "Warty Warthog", I think the ability to tweak your system to do exactly what you want it to is what gives Linux and Ubuntu its real power. I mean my Ubuntu is not the same as yours because I can go in and tweak it. That is really what Ubuntu CE is, a tweaked version of Ubuntu for Christians.

Well anyway, I am not sure that we will ever see eye to eye on these matters, but I respect you, the Ubuntu Team, and the Ichthux project. I wish you well in all that you do and I hope we can move on with our respective projects.

God Bless, Jereme

[LaserJock]

I don't see how adding your packages to Universe mean you loose control. You would be listed as maintainer and I doubt anybody would mess around with them. I'm not really seeing the issue of control here. The issue is to contribute to the Ubuntu community and users with good quality software. We don't want you to give up Ubuntu Christian Edition, we want to see it grow and succeed.

Automatix was not well liked (as is EasyUbuntu even) on 2 levels:
1) For quite a while Automatix used nasty hacks that created a fair amount of breakage for users. Those uses would often then complain to developers and support people. This stuff isn't easy to do. Debian and Debian-based distros such as Mepis or Ubuntu rely on the package manager to a very large extent to give it stability and integration. When you start messing around with things outside of that system it tends to cause breakage at some point. You might have a 100% positive experience with it, but many people have not.

2) Developers would rather address the root cause rather then put bandaids on the problem. If people get so used to Automatix they will start to forget the real problems here. Ubuntu has made huge strides during the Edgy release to address the problems that Automatix was a bandaid for.

It's not that Developers wanted to control it, they want to get a better and more user-friendly solution developed for *all* Ubuntu users.


Anyway, I also respect you and your project. It's up to you what you do with it and certainly diversity is good here. I really pray that God blesses your project.

-LaserJock

[mhancoc7]

Thanks LaserJock,
I am sorry that I am being a bit stubborn about this. I appreciate your comments and I will consider our thoughts when making my decisions.

I would love to get my work into the universe repo. I would love to be listed as a maintainer. All that sounds awesome. One of the things that makes me balk at the idea is stuff like my inclusion of proprietary wallpapers in Ubuntu CE. To me this is a total non-issue, but it seems that others find this unacceptable. It is not that I don't respect the "Ubuntu Philosophy", it is just that my project is not really a "derivative" but a pre-tweaked Ubuntu for Christians.

Well, I will truly think about it. I hope that we can continue to support each others projects regardless of our differences.

God Bless, Jereme

[tonhou]

I hope that we can continue to support each others projects regardless of our differences.

Aside from the "Ubuntu philosophy" there seems to be a difference in philosophies expressed here - a "purist" approach and a "pragmatic" one. While it would be nice to follow a purist approach always the downside is that we could wait a long time for anything to come to fruition and it may be difficult to change things.

Ubuntu CE's more pragmatic approach enables getting on with making a usefully shaped distribution for the Christian world in a relatively short time and one that can be easily modified. Provided it is not contravening any distribution rules then it is perfectly reasonable.

As far as the use of scripts is concerned I am personally positive about their use provided they are robust and well designed. User feedback will soon let you know if they are not.

--Tony

[LaserJock]

Thanks LaserJock,
I am sorry that I am being a bit stubborn about this. I appreciate your comments and I will consider our thoughts when making my decisions.

I would love to get my work into the universe repo. I would love to be listed as a maintainer. All that sounds awesome. One of the things that makes me balk at the idea is stuff like my inclusion of proprietary wallpapers in Ubuntu CE. To me this is a total non-issue, but it seems that others find this unacceptable. It is not that I don't respect the "Ubuntu Philosophy", it is just that my project is not really a "derivative" but a pre-tweaked Ubuntu for Christians.

Well, I will truly think about it. I hope that we can continue to support each others projects regardless of our differences.

God Bless, Jereme

Yes, I can see where a few things would be an issue, but I still think there is a lot of what you are doing that could develop/maintain within Ubuntu's Universe repo that might make your life much easier when it comes to Ubuntu CE development. Metapackages are really pretty easy to do and easy to get included since they usually build just fine. I understand the "pre-tweaked" thing for sure. You have been able to do a lot of cool work so far by "tweaking" rather than doing package development. We are still struggling with how to best handle content filtering as we can't do post install tweaking of dansguardian like you can.

-LaserJock

P.S. I'm not a programmer either. I'm a chemist. But now I'm a MOTU and teach people all the time to package. If you want some help just let me know (or anybody else for that matter who wants to contribute to Christian software in Ubuntu)

[mhancoc7]

Aside from the "Ubuntu philosophy" there seems to be a difference in philosophies expressed here - a "purist" approach and a "pragmatic" one. While it would be nice to follow a purist approach always the downside is that we could wait a long time for anything to come to fruition and it may be difficult to change things.

Ubuntu CE's more pragmatic approach enables getting on with making a usefully shaped distribution for the Christian world in a relatively short time and one that can be easily modified. Provided it is not contravening any distribution rules then it is perfectly reasonable.

As far as the use of scripts is concerned I am personally positive about their use provided they are robust and well designed. User feedback will soon let you know if they are not.

--Tony

Thanks Tony,
You have put into words exactly how I feel about the differences. I am not sure if my scripts could be considered robust or even well designed. I am learning as I go. I like the scripts because it fits more into how I like to do things.

Thanks for your input.

God Bless, Jereme

[LaserJock]

Aside from the "Ubuntu philosophy" there seems to be a difference in philosophies expressed here - a "purist" approach and a "pragmatic" one. While it would be nice to follow a purist approach always the downside is that we could wait a long time for anything to come to fruition and it may be difficult to change things.

Ubuntu CE's more pragmatic approach enables getting on with making a usefully shaped distribution for the Christian world in a relatively short time and one that can be easily modified. Provided it is not contravening any distribution rules then it is perfectly reasonable.

As far as the use of scripts is concerned I am personally positive about their use provided they are robust and well designed. User feedback will soon let you know if they are not.

--Tony

Well, while I agree that Ubuntu CE's approach is a little more pragmatic, I don't think our approach is necessarily taking a "long" time. I've personally added 6 new Bible translations (for 6 different languages ). We worked with the developer of the Desktop CD installer to add Bible module support to the language selector so that in addition to language packages, Sword language packages are installed depending on language. Between raphink and I we've added 16 new packages to Universe for edgy. In the span of 2-3 months we will have produced 2 full releases (one based on Kubuntu 6.06.1 and one based on Kubuntu 6.10).

I would rather frame the differences, as mhancoc7, has done as "pre-tweaked" as opposed to "tweaked from the inside". Neither is really wrong, but they are a bit different.

In all actuality, I'd much rather us talk about how much we have in common (lyricue, perhaps some church management software, better/easier content filtering, giving Christians tools for a computer age) and places where we can cooperate (perhaps getting some of mhancoc7's stuff in to Universe and him using our language selector patches).

-LaserJock

[mhancoc7]

Yes, I can see where a few things would be an issue, but I still think there is a lot of what you are doing that could develop/maintain within Ubuntu's Universe repo that might make your life much easier when it comes to Ubuntu CE development. Metapackages are really pretty easy to do and easy to get included since they usually build just fine. I understand the "pre-tweaked" thing for sure. You have been able to do a lot of cool work so far by "tweaking" rather than doing package development. We are still struggling with how to best handle content filtering as we can't do post install tweaking of dansguardian like you can.

-LaserJock

P.S. I'm not a programmer either. I'm a chemist. But now I'm a MOTU and teach people all the time to package. If you want some help just let me know (or anybody else for that matter who wants to contribute to Christian software in Ubuntu)

I started to work on a meta-package for Ubuntu CEs dansguardian filtering about a month ago. I stopped when I got stuck trying to figure out how to get dansguardian pre-configured like I do with the scripts.

I am not opposed to creating a meta-package for the dansguardian GUI so users could easily add it to there Ubuntu installation that is already using dansguardian. Of course the script that I have developed for that situation seems to work just fine.

I enjoy the ability to rapidly develop and deploy ideas. That is one thing that I really like about the scripts.

Your situation with getting content filtering setup is exactly the thing that I fear if I deviate from my current development path. As it stands I can take in ideas from users and put them into action within hours. This to me is what makes developmetn fun. :)

God Bless, Jereme

[mhancoc7]

Well, while I agree that Ubuntu CE's approach is a little more pragmatic, I don't think our approach is necessarily taking a "long" time. I've personally added 6 new Bible translations (for 6 different languages ). We worked with the developer of the Desktop CD installer to add Bible module support to the language selector so that in addition to language packages, Sword language packages are installed depending on language. Between raphink and I we've added 16 new packages to Universe for edgy. In the span of 2-3 months we will have produced 2 full releases (one based on Kubuntu 6.06.1 and one based on Kubuntu 6.10).

I would rather frame the differences, as mhancoc7, has done as "pre-tweaked" as opposed to "tweaked from the inside". Neither is really wrong, but they are a bit different.

In all actuality, I'd much rather us talk about how much we have in common (lyricue, perhaps some church management software, better/easier content filtering, giving Christians tools for a computer age) and places where we can cooperate (perhaps getting some of mhancoc7's stuff in to Universe and him using our language selector patches).

-LaserJock

Good points. I agree that you guys are moving along really nicely.

I would also love to see lyricue in the repos. It would be a great addition to Ubuntu CE. Of course my plan for it is to add it as an option on the Ubuntu CE Installer, which I don't think you guys probably like. :)

I would love to know more about how I could use your language selector patches.

I also like your "pre-tweaked" vs "tweaked from the inside" comment. I think that really nails down the differences pretty well.

God Bless, Jereme

[mhancoc7]

Ok, I just put together a .deb package that will install the Faith Browser theme and Bible Verse extension to Ubuntu from www.faithbrowser.com (http://www.faithbrowser.com). It is my first .deb package so I am not sure if I did it correctly. I have attached the .deb and the src archive.

I would love to hear what you have to say about it. The only thing that I would like it to do is to set firefox to use the theme and extension during installation. That way after install the changes have already been made.

I look forward to hearing what you guys think.

Download .deb (http://www.whatwouldjesusdownload.com/christianubuntu/deb/firefox-faithbrowser-ubuntu_1.0_all.deb)

Download src archive (http://www.whatwouldjesusdownload.com/christianubuntu/deb/firefox-faithbrowser-ubuntu_1.0_all.tar.gz)

God Bless, Jereme

[LaserJock]

I believe if libsword is installed prior to language selector being run by the installer the corresponding sword-language-pack-XX will be install (where XX is the language code) Bible modules for that language. Raphink knows more about it as he did the patch and spins the .isos.

I've got a few ideas about Dansguardian. I'm going to talk with some people before I blurt them out though. ;-) I think the future of filtering will be in programs like willowng where configuration and filtering are done at a bit higher level.

-LaserJock

[mhancoc7]

@LaserJock

I would love to know more about the sword packs. I think it sounds cool what you guys are doing.

I am not real familiar with willowng, but again I would love to hear more about it.

Thanks for all your input and feedback.

God Bless, Jereme

[Raphink]

Thank you for taking the time to make a package Jereme. As it is, your package is not distributable for technical and licensing reasons, but if you're willing to join on IRC or contact me through Jabber (raphink[AT]jabber.fr) or whatever other IM on my profile, I'll be happy to take you trough the steps of improving it and put it on REVU [0] eventually.


God bless

Raphaël


[0] http://revu.tauware.de/

[mhancoc7]

Thank you for taking the time to make a package Jereme. As it is, your package is not distributable for technical and licensing reasons, but if you're willing to join on IRC or contact me through Jabber (raphink[AT]jabber.fr) or whatever other IM on my profile, I'll be happy to take you trough the steps of improving it and put it on REVU [0] eventually.


God bless

Raphaël


[0] http://revu.tauware.de/

I would love to get it packaged correctly. Could you walk me through the steps to get it up to par by email? I rarely have the time to chat so I would prefer email.
Thanks, Jereme

[Raphink]

No I don't think I can take you through the steps by email, unless I write the whole Ubuntu packaging guide again.

If you don't have time to chat, I suggest you read the Ubuntu packaging guide that you can find on http://help.ubuntu.com first and work on the package. I'm willing to help you with it, but not to spend 1 month on the basics, which is what will happen if we do it by email.

God bless


Raphaël

[dakotadare2b]

Ok, I just put together a .deb package that will install the Faith Browser theme and Bible Verse extension to Ubuntu from www.faithbrowser.com (http://www.faithbrowser.com). It is my first .deb package so I am not sure if I did it correctly. I have attached the .deb and the src archive.

I would love to hear what you have to say about it. The only thing that I would like it to do is to set firefox to use the theme and extension during installation. That way after install the changes have already been made.

I look forward to hearing what you guys think.

Download .deb (http://www.whatwouldjesusdownload.com/christianubuntu/deb/firefox-faithbrowser-ubuntu_1.0_all.deb)

Download src archive (http://www.whatwouldjesusdownload.com/christianubuntu/deb/firefox-faithbrowser-ubuntu_1.0_all.tar.gz)

God Bless, Jereme

Hi Jereme,

I am a new user, of 2 weeks, to Ubuntu CE, Ubuntu and Linux in general. I just wanted to let you know that I have enjoyed your distro very much. I am trying to learn as much as I can about Ubuntu CE, being a primarily Windows user for close to 20 years. The learning has been fun and challenging.:-D I really enjoy the forums and online documentation.

Primarily, the thing that drew me to this version of Ubuntu was the Christian theme, but other benefits have been its use of applications that make it personal and utilitarian to me. Dansguardian is something I am going to implement on my entire home network. I know it will take me a while to get to the point of being proficient and fully comfortable using Ubuntu CE, but I am willing to learn.

You wanted feedback on the .deb package for the Firefox Faith Browser theme and Bible Verse extension. I think it was easy to install, and it added a welcomed touch to my web browser (after I restarted it, of course;) ).

Thanks, again for your work on this fine distro and I look forward to more developments. Keep them coming. :D

God Bless,
Randy

[mhancoc7]

No I don't think I can take you through the steps by email, unless I write the whole Ubuntu packaging guide again.

If you don't have time to chat, I suggest you read the Ubuntu packaging guide that you can find on http://help.ubuntu.com first and work on the package. I'm willing to help you with it, but not to spend 1 month on the basics, which is what will happen if we do it by email.

God bless


Raphaël

Thanks for the link. I will read it and make the necessary changes.
God Bless, Jereme

[mhancoc7]

Hi Jereme,

I am a new user, of 2 weeks, to Ubuntu CE, Ubuntu and Linux in general. I just wanted to let you know that I have enjoyed your distro very much. I am trying to learn as much as I can about Ubuntu CE, being a primarily Windows user for close to 20 years. The learning has been fun and challenging.:-D I really enjoy the forums and online documentation.

Primarily, the thing that drew me to this version of Ubuntu was the Christian theme, but other benefits have been its use of applications that make it personal and utilitarian to me. Dansguardian is something I am going to implement on my entire home network. I know it will take me a while to get to the point of being proficient and fully comfortable using Ubuntu CE, but I am willing to learn.

You wanted feedback on the .deb package for the Firefox Faith Browser theme and Bible Verse extension. I think it was easy to install, and it added a welcomed touch to my web browser (after I restarted it, of course;) ).

Thanks, again for your work on this fine distro and I look forward to more developments. Keep them coming. :D

God Bless,
Randy

Thanks for your kind words. I am glad that you are enjoying Ubuntu CE. I appreciate your feedback as well.

Learning Linux is very fun. It takes a while, but once the light comes on it is amazing. Keep in mind that it is a never ending learning process. :)

God Bless, Jereme

[pjbgravely]

Jereme,

Thanks for your script. I haven't tried it yet but it looks well written. I have already added your suggested backups and will be testing it soon. I will suggest it to users with kids and may include it in my large install script.

I don't see any problem with writing scripts to install stuff for people, when I write a script the hardest part is teaching them to click, then click run. I have given up trying to teach them to copy/paste from an email to a terminal.

[mhancoc7]

Jereme,

Thanks for your script. I haven't tried it yet but it looks well written. I have already added your suggested backups and will be testing it soon. I will suggest it to users with kids and may include it in my large install script.

I don't see any problem with writing scripts to install stuff for people, when I write a script the hardest part is teaching them to click, then click run. I have given up trying to teach them to copy/paste from an email to a terminal.

Thanks,
Let me know how it goes. I am already working on the next version. No real big differences, just updated for the next release of Ubuntu CE.

Jereme

[pjbgravely]

Jereme,

The install script worked perfectly.

The configuration utility did not. I attempted to add myspace.com to the banned sites and after saving my changes dansguardian refused to run because of multiple config file errors. I ended up rerunning the install script to fix the problem.

I doubt if the install script led to the failure of the utility. It might be good to also create an uninstall script that restores the system to the way it was before. When I get more time I will see if I can figure out what the problem is. Maybe it conflicts with something installed on the Edubuntu I installed it on.

Paul

[mhancoc7]

Jereme,

The install script worked perfectly.

The configuration utility did not. I attempted to add myspace.com to the banned sites and after saving my changes dansguardian refused to run because of multiple config file errors. I ended up rerunning the install script to fix the problem.

I doubt if the install script led to the failure of the utility. It might be good to also create an uninstall script that restores the system to the way it was before. When I get more time I will see if I can figure out what the problem is. Maybe it conflicts with something installed on the Edubuntu I installed it on.

Paul

Thanks for letting me know. I am not sure what caused the issue. Especially since you used it on Edubuntu. I only test the scripts in the default Ubuntu. After the second install did it work for you? The next release will address the ability to completely uninstall the filtering by installing the GUI as a .deb package. Then you can simply go to Synaptic and do a Complete Removal of dansguardian, clamav, firehol, tinyproxy, and the "GUI.deb". I will of course add these instructions to the site.

God Bless, Jereme

[pjbgravely]

Jereme,

I retried the configuration GUI and successfully block a site. There must have been something wrong with the first install. Making a .deb would be the way to go. The hardest part would be to restore the config files change in other apps upon uninstall.

BTW I was pleased to see that Opera was also on the proxy so I didn't have to remove it.

Paul

[mhancoc7]

Jereme,

I retried the configuration GUI and successfully block a site. There must have been something wrong with the first install. Making a .deb would be the way to go. The hardest part would be to restore the config files change in other apps upon uninstall.

BTW I was pleased to see that Opera was also on the proxy so I didn't have to remove it.

Paul

Glad to hear that you got it going. The lastest release of Ubuntu CE including the scripts has the dansguardian GUI installed as a deb so the GUI can easily be removed if someone desires to. The script has also been tweaked a bit to.
God Bless, Jereme

[foodcoman]

I would love to see "packages" that have the Dans Gardian install and the GUI for setting the filtering options. Many Native Kubuntu/Ubuntu users would like to choose what Internet content they want to provide their children when not supervised with broadband.

[mhancoc7]

I would love to see "packages" that have the Dans Gardian install and the GUI for setting the filtering options. Many Native Kubuntu/Ubuntu users would like to choose what Internet content they want to provide their children when not supervised with broadband.

I have created two script for users of default Ubuntu. One installs dansguardian preconfigured witht he GUI from Ubuntu CE. The other only installs the GUI for those already using dansguardian in the default Ubuntu. In theory they could both be used in Kubuntu if gksu and gedit were both installed. This has not been tested.

You can check the scripts out the Download Page (http://www.whatwouldjesusdownload.com/christianubuntu/2006/07/download.html) of the project page.

Jereme

[WorkingOnWise]

Hi All,
This a word of caution for those that don't always listen to the developers warnings about system requirements (ahem...that'd be me you saw not listening to you jereme)
It was stated that these scripts were for ubuntu 6.1, and to not use them on a variant. I was running kubuntu 6.1 while deciding which desktop I wanted to commit to. I ran this script, then hacked it to try to get it to run right in kubuntu...then hacked a bit more...and totally broke my firefox and dansguardian, and tinyproxy could be heard whimpering a little.
I know exactly what was wrong, and being the Linux master guru I am, took the path of fastest repair, which for me was
1) Boot off Ubuntu CE 6.1 cd
2) Double clicked the install icon on the live cd desktop.
3)selected "Please destroy my stupid mistakes and replace my distro with one that works."
4) Answered yes if asked to promis to not be such a bone head in the future.
5) Drank coffee while the nice installer fixed my brainfart.

In short, Jereme said ubuntu with good reason. Just as I am not God, I also am not a developer!

Thanks Jereme for a place to work! Ubuntu CE is safe and productive. Keep going

Peace
Keith

[doobit]

Hi All,
This a word of caution for those that don't always listen to the developers warnings about system requirements (ahem...that'd be me you saw not listening to you jereme)
It was stated that these scripts were for ubuntu 6.1, and to not use them on a variant. I was running kubuntu 6.1 while deciding which desktop I wanted to commit to. I ran this script, then hacked it to try to get it to run right in kubuntu...then hacked a bit more...and totally broke my firefox and dansguardian, and tinyproxy could be heard whimpering a little.
I know exactly what was wrong, and being the Linux master guru I am, took the path of fastest repair, which for me was
1) Boot off Ubuntu CE 6.1 cd
2) Double clicked the install icon on the live cd desktop.
3)selected "Please destroy my stupid mistakes and replace my distro with one that works."
4) Answered yes if asked to promis to not be such a bone head in the future.
5) Drank coffee while the nice installer fixed my brainfart.

In short, Jereme said ubuntu with good reason. Just as I am not God, I also am not a developer!

Thanks Jereme for a place to work! Ubuntu CE is safe and productive. Keep going

Peace
Keith

You CAN install it over Xubuntu pretty easily, and I put a HowTo on here somewhere for that. It actually works very nicely with Xubuntu and that can be good for people with slower computers.