Ubuntu Stinks!

[MasonM]

Ubuntu is a terrible Linux distro! I installed Hoary and looked forward to spending some time tweaking and configuring to make X work properly, to make my NIC work , configure my network, and get all of my other hardware working the way it should.

I was looking forward to installing and configuring a bunch of applications that I use regularly.

So, what happens???? I installed Ubuntu Hoary, log in, and everything works. What kind of Linux distro is this anyway? My NIC is configured and working. My network is working exactly the way I was going to configure it. All of my hardware is working. Even suspend.

Most of the apps I use were already there, and working no less!!! Horrible! The couple of extras I had to happily install, including some multi-media stuff, installed easily and were correctly configured. Terrible!!!

How does this happen? Who screwed up here? What's the fun of installing a Linux distro if it's going to work right off the bat without several hours of tweaking and editing?

And who ever heard of a Debian system with the newest verions of major packages? Gnome 2.10? Come on now! We can't go around putting new stuff in Debian systems, it just won't work.

Somebody should be in deep trouble here! This kind of thing shouldn't be allowed to happen! Linux distros aren't supposed to work perfectly without some pain and agony first. It just isn't done!

How are experienced Linux users supposed to maintain an air of awe and respect from the newbies unless said newbies are forced to ask for help getting simple things working correctly? This is a terrible thing indeed! This sort of thing could lead to new Linux users installing and using their systems without any help at all! We just can't have this.

Ubuntu stinks! It takes all of the fun out of hours spent editing config files and installing patches and recompiling the kernel to make all the hardware work.

[Knome_fan]

Couldn't agree more. It's boring, it just works.
What am I supposed to do now?

[ubuntu-geek]

Um.. What exactly is the purpose of this post?

[MasonM]

Sorry, I didn't realize that one couldn't post without submitting a proposal outlining a stated purpose first. My mistake.

I was simply voicing my opinion on what appears to be a pretty darned good distro using a form of writing known in some circles as "humor". Please look it up if you've never heard of it as it can be quite entertaining for some people. I realize it isn't everyone's "cup of tea" and apologize if it confused you in any way as that certainly wasn't my objective.

[totalshredder]

Um.. What exactly is the purpose of this post?
He was just unloading on us I guess.


I'll tell you what, I don't miss that stuff one bit. I wouldn't be using linux if it weren't for ubuntu :)

Luke

[ubuntu-geek]

Cool :) No worries just didn't want to see a huge flame fest start.. :P

[mtron]

Well I have still some fun to do:

dbus was not working (helped me out with a startup script)
hotplug or hal over firewire failes (workin' on that)
cdrom mounted on /media/cdrom0 but showes up in nautilus as media/cdrom1 and no desktop icon created (again, I think a dbus issue)

So enough fun for the next hours...

[az]

It stinks? Change the air - open a "Window"

Ha ha.

[akurashy]

well go install gentoo if you are so disppointed on ubuntu

[jdodson]

i think his post is sarcastic.

might just be me though.

rock on ubuntu! it works so well it stinks!

[seven]

Ubuntu rockz, big time :)
I kind agree that it is fun to fix stuffs that doesn't work, but I dont care to get a working distro =]

[halo five]

The original post was definitely sarcastic, and he/she is obviously very impressed with ubuntu's hardware support. For the record, I thought the post was a funny read.

I'm also very impressed with how ubuntu just works. Keep up the good work, guys! Linux has finally replaced Windows on my desktop.

[adbak]

Fixing and configuring packages and applications builds a sense of ownership of your system, box if you will. I remember how much fun it was tinkering with Warty to get MPlayer to work.

And what's the deal with Canonical living up to it's promise of "It Just Works"? ;)

[MasonM]

Thanks Halo. :)

Technically, it's parody, not sarcasm but I'm glad you enjoyed it.

[kassetra]

It stinks? Change the air - open a "Window"

Ha ha.

WAHAHAHAHAHA ok, that's funny. :)

The only thing is... once you open a window there, you're likely to catch a virus.

[XDevHald]

I just got a good kick out of it as it's so funny that it's true what he said, IT WORKS!

Any n00b that comes upon Ubuntu, You're in the right hands my friend!

[mulino]

... this reads to me like a dream came true. I was using Debian for about three years. After that - some guy told me about Mandrake. Well, it worked ok - but after I heard about and tried Ubuntu (based on my favourite distro) - I couldn't believe what happened..

Well, you know the story: Ubuntu rules that much. Everything is working fine for me. I also appreciate everyone's effort to build a distro like this: a linux distro for "human beings"..

Thank you all and keep up the good style!
mulino

PS: Is there a ubuntu shop in Europe?

[SquireSCA]

i think his post is sarcastic.

might just be me though.

rock on ubuntu! it works so well it stinks!

I had the opposite reaction to ubuntu. I think it is a second rate OS, and most fans are more into the atmosphere and idealogy of the community, rather than the OS itself. There is nothing really special about it. It still has a way to go before it can live up to the hype surrounding it.

I found it to be much harder to set up, easier to break, and less featured than other distros or Windows.

But hey, it's new and exciting and everyone wants to be a part of it, so whatever...

[MasonM]

I found it to be much harder to set up, easier to break, and less featured than other distros or Windows.

Wow, that's really sad to hear that someone had that much trouble setting up such an easy distro. As someone who's used Linux for 10 years and just about every distro that's come and (for some) gone, I would have to say that Ubuntu has made some strides in the right direction towards making Linux easier to use for the average "mom & pop" user.

No, Ubuntu isn't Slack, or Gentoo, or Arch, which are directed toward more advanced users (I personally like Slack very much). It is however, an excellent distro directed at the average computer user who just wants things to work so they can use their computer without having to do a lot of tinkering first.

Will it work perfectly on every possibly hardware configuration? Of course not. No OS will. Will it work well on the average home or small business user's setup? Probably so.

I can only speak for myself, and I have to say that it installed and setup perfectly on MY system. I use a laptop primarily and a lot of distros have problems when it comes to laptops. Ubuntu set up perfectly without any extra tweaking needed. I find that to be impressive.

But that's why we have so many choices out there.

By the way, if Ubuntu left such a sour taste in your mouth, why are you on the Ubuntu forums? Personally, I don't waste time hanging around the forums of distros I don't like.

[Stormy Eyes]

I found it to be much harder to set up, easier to break, and less featured than other distros or Windows.

Easier to break? What the hell do you do to your system, anyway?

[baza41]

Well, I got it \\:D/ Come others he was joking! :roll:

[az]

WAHAHAHAHAHA ok, that's funny. :)

The only thing is... once you open a window there, you're likely to catch a virus.

Now, _that_ is funny.

I keep telling people they are nuts in saying that they caught a cold from being out in the cold! Don't they know colds and flus are caused by viruses and bacteria!

Oh the double-entendres!

[dataw0lf]

/me takes off flame retardant clothing and glumly walks out of the thread.

[SolidAndShade]

I found it to be much harder to set up, easier to break, and less featured than other distros or Windows.

Can you give any examples? I'd like to know what distro is easier to set up, harder to break and more featured. Well, maybe Debian stable is harder to break, if you don't mind using software from 3 years ago, but it's also exponentially harder to use.

SolidAndShade

[basse1989]

I like the post from the start, and yeah I was kind of sure it was a joke. Then I read his 2nd post and then I knew it was a joke. Nice way of telling us. :)

For me ubuntu worked really nice out of the box, if I added "acpi=off" to the kernel line else it wouldn't work at all. But that's not problem. I've heard from many people that ubuntu works very well on their laptops and so on.

Hi Stormy Eyes, I remember you from Gentoo Forums. :)

[bonifacio]

It takes the fun out of the original humorous post if it needs to explain to people the punchline.

Oh well let Ubuntu stinks some more.

[MasonM]

It takes the fun out of the original humorous post if it needs to explain to people the punchline.

Oh well let Ubuntu stinks some more.
True, but just remember there's a reason why they have to put instructions for use on shampoo bottles. :-P

[SquireSCA]

Easier to break? What the hell do you do to your system, anyway?

I dunno, but I always seem to break things. hehehe

Perhaps it is because I am a gamer, and so I try to have up to date hardware, and overclocking and all that crap, and I do frequent hardware upgrades and stuff... So I am a lot more likely to encounter issues and problems than a person that uses a more middle of the road machine to do programming and basic things like email, browsing and stuff...

[SquireSCA]

Can you give any examples? I'd like to know what distro is easier to set up, harder to break and more featured. Well, maybe Debian stable is harder to break, if you don't mind using software from 3 years ago, but it's also exponentially harder to use.

SolidAndShade

Mandrake is easy, but uses a lot of outdated packages. Their new Mandriva 10.2 uses KDE 3.2.3 for example...

Suse is the one I prefer at the moment, but if you know of a better one, I am willing to listen...

[SamH]

Mandrake is easy, but uses a lot of outdated packages. Their new Mandriva 10.2 uses KDE 3.2.3 for example...

Suse is the one I prefer at the moment, but if you know of a better one, I am willing to listen...
Aww...c'mon. You already know what answer you're gonna' get here.

I've been mostly a SuSE user when it comes to Linux distros. I tried Caldera, RedHat, Lycoris, Mandrake, Gentoo, etc. I always kept coming back to SuSE. I was using SUSE 9.2 when I decided to try Ubuntu. I was skeptical. But I haven't fired up the SUSE box since.

Also, I'm concerned about the future of SUSE. Novell has been doing things alright so far, but I'm still a bit concerned that SUSE as such is going to get "swallowed up" and not really be SUSE anymore.

[Raven-sb]

Mandrake is easy, but uses a lot of outdated packages. Their new Mandriva 10.2 uses KDE 3.2.3 for example...

Suse is the one I prefer at the moment, but if you know of a better one, I am willing to listen...

Please don't let this excellent thread turn into 'a which distro is better' flame war.

[baza41]

Now, _that_ is funny.

I keep telling people they are nuts in saying that they caught a cold from being out in the cold! Don't they know colds and flus are caused by viruses and bacteria!

Oh the double-entendres!


On the same point (sort of) have you noticed how deadly rain was in the 1930's? No? Well watch some old films, in these if someone ever went out and got wet, in the next scene it's odds on you'll find them dying of some form pneumonia.

And why was that? Simple: no GNU/Linux :)

Baza

[baza41]

go back to Windows ME then dumbass :twisted:


It was a JOKE posting, read it through again and say to yourself, 'this is a spoof' [-o<

Baza

[occy8]

Quote:
Originally Posted by kassetra
WAHAHAHAHAHA ok, that's funny.

The only thing is... once you open a window there, you're likely to catch a virus.


Now, _that_ is funny.

I keep telling people they are nuts in saying that they caught a cold from being out in the cold! Don't they know colds and flus are caused by viruses and bacteria!

Oh the double-entendres!

I won't recognize my own bad smell :mrgreen: , only notice it when other people tell me.
My Windows stay closed.

[darkoptix]

the truth hurts...

[az]

Please, lets wrap this thread up. It can only do waaaay downhill...

[MasonM]

Oh I think the majority of the users have a sense of humor, and the few who don't are pretty amusing. We get a good laugh either way.

[KiwiNZ]

I agree with my esteemed collegue Azz. Lets wind it up .

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