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greggh
September 17th, 2006, 05:30 AM
mhancoc7 did you see this?

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuCE

mhancoc7
September 17th, 2006, 07:58 AM
mhancoc7 did you see this?

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuCE

Yes, I did notice that the other day. I never really intended for Ubuntu Christian Edition to be called Ubuntu CE. It just kind of grew from various posts. It is of course also easier to in some instances to create the link to Ubuntu CE instead of Ubuntu Christian Edition. I am not sure how best to deal with this yet.

Thanks, Jereme

Zyzzyx
September 17th, 2006, 08:08 AM
Perhaps do as the other flavors of Ubuntu, put the modifier in front.

Xubuntu
Kubuntu

...

CEUbuntu



Just an idea.

mhancoc7
September 17th, 2006, 08:21 AM
Perhaps do as the other flavors of Ubuntu, put the modifier in front.

Xubuntu
Kubuntu

...

CEUbuntu



Just an idea.

Yeah, like I said I always intended the project to be called Ubuntu Christian Edition. It was simply out of ease that people began to call it Ubuntu CE. Some have also called it UCE and UBCE. The "official" name is Ubuntu Christian Edition. I never really liked the (k)(x)(ed)ubuntu approach. To me it makes more sense to call them "editions". For instance Kubuntu should be "Ubuntu KDE Edition". To me that is more specific. Of course the way I understand it Kubuntu is truly a seperate distro with seperate repos where Ubuntu Christian Edition is basically a customized version of Ubuntu. It is definitely something to consider.

Thanks, Jereme

kberglun
September 19th, 2006, 10:37 AM
You should read this thread in case you are thnking about a name change.
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255971

It's seems like we are quite many that wants all ubuntu projects to be called "ubuntu" and then project name.

kberglun
September 19th, 2006, 10:45 AM
On the other hand, weren't you first to name it Christian Edition? If so, I think CE is a very normal abbreviation for your distro, and he/she should be the one to change it. :D

mhancoc7
September 19th, 2006, 10:53 AM
You should read this thread in case you are thnking about a name change.
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255971

It's seems like we are quite many that wants all ubuntu projects to be called "ubuntu" and then project name.

Yeah, I read through some of that thread the other day. :)


On the other hand, weren't you first to name it Christian Edition? If so, I think CE is a very normal abbreviation for your distro, and he/she should be the one to change it. :D

Well, the other UbuntuCE project has not been fully implemented yet. At least that is how it appears. It looks to me like it is in the concept stage. Ubuntu Christian Edition on the other hand is obviously in full swing.

Thanks, Jereme

kberglun
September 19th, 2006, 02:29 PM
If you have an opinion about the naming convention in ubuntu you should write a post in that thread.

mhancoc7
September 19th, 2006, 11:45 PM
If you have an opinion about the naming convention in ubuntu you should write a post in that thread.

Good idea, I just posted my thoughts.
Jereme

mysticrider92
September 22nd, 2006, 03:51 PM
On the other hand, weren't you first to name it Christian Edition? If so, I think CE is a very normal abbreviation for your distro, and he/she should be the one to change it. :D
It seems like there will be a three-way battle for this name since Microsoft has an OS named
Windows CE (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/embedded/windowsce/default.mspx).
I personally would support Ubuntu CE, though.

LaserJock
September 23rd, 2006, 09:27 PM
Yeah, like I said I always intended the project to be called Ubuntu Christian Edition. It was simply out of ease that people began to call it Ubuntu CE. Some have also called it UCE and UBCE. The "official" name is Ubuntu Christian Edition. I never really liked the (k)(x)(ed)ubuntu approach. To me it makes more sense to call them "editions". For instance Kubuntu should be "Ubuntu KDE Edition". To me that is more specific. Of course the way I understand it Kubuntu is truly a seperate distro with seperate repos where Ubuntu Christian Edition is basically a customized version of Ubuntu. It is definitely something to consider.

Thanks, Jereme

Kubuntu (and Xubuntu and Edubuntu) use the exact same repositories as Ubuntu. They are often semi-officially called partner projects (see the ubuntu website) but a lot of people also call them flavors. I somewhat agree with the "Ubuntu KDE Edition" approach, but I don't get to name them so ... ;-)

-LaserJock

Raphink
September 23rd, 2006, 11:38 PM
As Laserjock pointed out, Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Edubuntu/Ichthux (as of version 6.10) use exactly the same repositories as Ubuntu. They are the same OS, with the same packages, the same developers, the same standards, the same Code of Conduct, the same release schedule. It is a common misconception that Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Edubuntu/Ichthux are derivated from Ubuntu. They are fully part of Ubuntu.

However, Kubuntu, Xubuntu and Edubuntu are officially supported by Canonical, and the trademarks belong to Canonical just as Ubuntu, while Ichthux is a community-only project, that has nothing to do with Canonical.

I kind of agree that the names could have been chosen more wisely. It seems this began with Kubuntu, and just went on with the other projects. There are pros and cons with these names. I think it can be good to have different names, since most end users really see different desktops. Ubuntu and Kubuntu look & feel different, so it is natural for people to use different names of that. Advanced users are not shocked to find out they are the same distro, and get along with it. In this matter, Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Edubuntu/Ichthux are indeed various "editions" of Ubuntu since they use exactly the same packages, tools and repositories but only ship different packages by default. The Kubuntu/Edubuntu/Xubuntu/Ichthux developers are mostly Ubuntu developers, and work directly in Ubuntu. Ubuntu Christian Edition cannot be considered an Ubuntu "edition" in the same sense though, because it is based on Ubuntu but not included in it.


God bless

RaphaŽl