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alexp
April 8th, 2005, 01:01 PM
Hello,

I'd like you to add mail-notification (http://www.nongnu.org/mailnotify/) *with SSL/TLS support enabled* to the backports repository. Please note that the package itself is already in hoary (universe), but SSL/TLS support has been disabled by the Debian package maintainer due to licensing issues.

Unfortunately, there seems to be no hope that this issue (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=286672) will ever change, as the developer is unwilling to change the package license to be Debian-compatible, and the debian-legal department is unwilling to use a not-so-strict interpretation (http://www.gnome.org/%7Emarkmc/openssl-and-the-gpl.html) of certain parts of the GPL ](*,).

However, without the ability to securely connect to the mail server, this package is rendered useless for most people. As such, I'd like to suggest the following:

One should add the package to backports, slightly changing the package name (eg. adding -nonfree or -ssl to it) and putting a small note into the package description and the README (or README.Debian/Ubuntu/whatever) file which describes the situation and licensing problems which may arise with the installation. I'd happily help with that, but I have no experience with deb packaging (though I could write an ebuild :twisted: for the Gentoo refugees). Still, I'll try to help wherever possible -- just ask.

I know that the developer himself maintains deb packages with SSL/TLS enabled, but installing them via dpkg is a far-from-perfect solution, as the Ubuntu update-manager almost immediately complains about available updates for the package.

Regards,
Alexander Papaspyrou

nocturn
April 8th, 2005, 02:19 PM
Hello,

I'd like you to add mail-notification (http://www.nongnu.org/mailnotify/) *with SSL/TLS support enabled* to the backports repository. Please note that the package itself is already in hoary (universe), but SSL/TLS support has been disabled by the Debian package maintainer due to licensing issues.

Unfortunately, there seems to be no hope that this issue (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=286672) will ever change, as the developer is unwilling to change the package license to be Debian-compatible, and the debian-legal department is unwilling to use a not-so-strict interpretation (http://www.gnome.org/%7Emarkmc/openssl-and-the-gpl.html) of certain parts of the GPL ](*,).

However, without the ability to securely connect to the mail server, this package is rendered useless for most people. As such, I'd like to suggest the following:

One should add the package to backports, slightly changing the package name (eg. adding -nonfree or -ssl to it) and putting a small note into the package description and the README (or README.Debian/Ubuntu/whatever) file which describes the situation and licensing problems which may arise with the installation. I'd happily help with that, but I have no experience with deb packaging (though I could write an ebuild :twisted: for the Gentoo refugees). Still, I'll try to help wherever possible -- just ask.

I know that the developer himself maintains deb packages with SSL/TLS enabled, but installing them via dpkg is a far-from-perfect solution, as the Ubuntu update-manager almost immediately complains about available updates for the package.

Regards,
Alexander Papaspyrou


Debian legal can be insane about such things...
I read the clauses and the reply of the mail-notification author, there is no problem whatsoever with enabling SSL in it since it neither incorporates nor redistributes OpenSSL, it links against it.

alexp
April 8th, 2005, 04:53 PM
nocturn,


I read the clauses and the reply of the mail-notification author, there is no problem whatsoever with enabling SSL in it since it neither incorporates nor redistributes OpenSSL, it links against it.

Well, I don't see the problem either -- especially since openssl already is part of Ubuntu. Alas, the debian package maintainer does not seem to share our opinion; and as hoary (universe) seems to use the debian vanilla deb, this won't ever change.

Regards,
Alexander

KillerKiwi
August 1st, 2005, 03:07 AM
Found a deb

http://kitalpha.homelinux.net/debian/mail-notification-ssl_1.1-4_i386.deb