Please convince me!

[foodcoman]

I am a former Redhat user from around the 7.x era. I have recently picked up Linux again and started with Mandrake 10.1 and have enjoyed it very much. I am looking to be convinced that there is something better as to package handling and more current and frequent package updates and patches. I also am looking for the possibility of gaming with WINE or variations thereof. I also want to be able to use MythTV or similar with a Hauppauge PVR-350.

I am trying to keep an open mind, because it’s real easy to get hooked on something.

I have been a KDE user thus far, but have dabbled with Gnome and Enlighten.....

Thanks for any comments!

[KiwiNZ]

Best way to to get convinced is to convince yourself.
Download Ubuntu , install it and be pleasantly surprised.

[Rhodan]

Well as much as we can reply here and tell you how great it is, in the end it is up to you. So download it and try it for yourself 8-)

[foodcoman]

Great advice, and that comment alone is enough to motivate me to give it a spin.

I understand that Ubuntu is Debian based!

Would you or anyone be able to speak to the package management in contrast to URPMI advantages/disadvantages?

Thanks for the replies!

P.S. I may be of help to the Recipes thread! (Food Company Man)

[zenwhen]

You won't notice much of a difference between URPMI and apt-get in usage, but will notice that you have a lot more software to choose from.

[somuchfortheafter]

for package management we use a gui called synaptic which is a gui front-end to the popular apt-get system. So basically, search check, install tada. And if you are running the latest version Hoary(5.04) synaptic has an update manager that will remind you when updates for your packages are available.

[Technoviking]

I was a RedHat/Fedora user years (even got my RHCE), I tried other distro but none would make me what to switch. I install Ubuntu after catching a Linux Link Tech Show and Lug Radio broadcast both talking about it. I was soon converted.

Thing I like:
- The package management: Yes, apt-get rocks.
- The Interface: The Ubuntu crew did a nice job or tweaking the Gnome Interface to make it more appealling.
- Linux that works: Ubuntu is the first distro I have been able to plug in external devices (my digital camera, my mp3 player) and the show up and are usable without any configuration.

I suggest you download it, and test it for yourself.

Mike

PS: There is a killer How-To for MythTV for Fedora Core 3 at http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php

[UbuWu]

Maybe you should try the live-cd first? I think it will convince you...

[Artis]

Would you or anyone be able to speak to the package management in contrast to URPMI advantages/disadvantages?The only significant (if you can call that significant) difference I see is that I don't have to guess whatever the package name uses captial letters or all lowercase. Mandrake seemed to have no consistency, some packages were lowercased others used the "official" upstream capitalization. In Debian/Ubuntu package names are always lower case.

[foodcoman]

I am Torrenting both the Distro and the LiveCD version right now!

Does the Package Manager do anything related to server performance to provide servers with quicker download times, or is this something you just have to discover by trying different servers? EasyURPMI was an interface to easy configuration, but did nothing for network performance, you choose a slow one, you got a slow one.

Thanks for all the replies!

Food Company Man

[foodcoman]

My Torrents for both ISO's have completed. I will roast em when I get home and take it for a spin. I had been using KDE, but I dont object to Gnome. I just never made it a primary enviro....

[az]

1. Everyone I know (and that is not saying much) who has used an rpm distr has installed apt4rpm. 'Nuff said.
2. Don't want Gnome? Try Kubuntu.

[somuchfortheafter]

like i said synaptic is a front-end to apt-get so whatever is in your /etc/apt/sources.list file is where you will download from. Also to give you an idea of network performance on everyone one of my machines i receive 300kbs+ downloads from the defaults and I have a 3mbit internet connection. Also you may wish to check this
http://ubuntuguide.org (warty version)
http://ubuntuguide.org/temp (hoary version)

[audscott]

1. Everyone I know (and that is not saying much) who has used an rpm distr has installed apt4rpm. 'Nuff said.
2. Don't want Gnome? Try Kubuntu.
I've been an XP snob for years, really wanting to move to another platform: I love KDE for it's style and simplicity on the Kubuntu/Hoary platform. I could easily get used to this!

[foodcoman]

Ok, I am sold.

Now its just a bit of a learning curve.

Nice distribution. Another Convert!

[poofyhairguy]

Ok, I am sold.

Now its just a bit of a learning curve.

Nice distribution. Another Convert!

Welcome.

[defkewl]

I think you will have problems when using MP3, DVD and Printer since Ubuntu is not out of the box distro. There's a lot of things you need to tweek.

[jerome bettis]

I think you will have problems when using MP3, DVD and Printer since Ubuntu is not out of the box distro. There's a lot of things you need to tweek.
yeah, but this script takes care of most (not all) of that stuff:
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22646

[Brunellus]

I think you will have problems when using MP3, DVD and Printer since Ubuntu is not out of the box distro. There's a lot of things you need to tweek.

MP3 and DVD don't work out of the box because it would be *illegal* for them to do so. These things can easily be enabled with a quick visit to the restricted-formats wikipage.

Printing isn't all that difficult.

Compared with the things one would need to tweak in a Debian install, Ubuntu is actually an excellent out fo the box distro!

[bvc]

1. Everyone I know (and that is not saying much) who has used an rpm distr has installed apt4rpm. 'Nuff said.
2. Don't want Gnome? Try Kubuntu.yeah, that's not saying much since apt4rpm will fry a mandrake install in the first few instances ;-)
urpmi rocks! [-X
those that say otherwise either have not used it recently or didn't know what they were doing :neutral:
says me (http://mandrakeusers.org/index.php?showuser=36)

[poofyhairguy]

says me (http://mandrakeusers.org/index.php?showuser=36)


Link didn't work...

[bvc]

hmmm...used to
I shouldn't put it anyway, but since I did ](*,) it basically says

It saysbvc

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only to point out that I've seen it all when concerning the help of users both new and old with rpm's. Apt is great, but so is urpmi. I continued to use mandrake for over a year just to continue to help people but if I wasn't so lazy and didn't have so many other things going on lfs would be my choice.

[fng]

I think you will have problems when using MP3, DVD and Printer since Ubuntu is not out of the box distro. There's a lot of things you need to tweek.

http://www.ubuntuguide.org