Hey! Guitar players, let's chat.

[dbbolton]

they're all busy actually playing their instruments, rather than talking about them on a computer software forum.

:guitar:

[Bezmotivnik]

*starts whistling*

so . . . no posts in a wh ile, what's up alL?
I dunno. I'm getting increasingly fed up with the Ubuntu Forum and most of its participants, I think, and fed up with netfora in general. Gristleheads ruin it for everyone, y'know? :(

I've just been doing other stuff. Sleeping, for a change...reading a lot.

[matthew]

so . . . no posts in a wh ile, what's up alL?Unfortunately for me, life intervenes sometimes. I'm getting hammered with work this week.

[23meg]

Here's my "Italian guitar" which I had mentioned a while ago (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1631935&postcount=218) upon Bezmotivnik's following question:
"In a world where it's harder and harder to get your money's worth out of expensive gear, what cheapy article -- amp, effect or axe -- surprised you with its quality?"

http://i9.tinypic.com/2ln9y5z.jpg

[CPtAJ]

*Listening to Stevie Ray Vaughan Live at El Mocambo*

Man, not to take this off-topic but you know a guitarist is good when your media player gets stuck playing the audio (and only the audio) after trying to close the dvd and you don't really see that as an immediate problem :wink:

[NewOldTimer]

Hey Ubuntu band-mates, hope I'm not stepping in at a bad time, I just stumbled onto this and Damn near fainted. First linux, then ubuntu, and now this....What more could I ask for{well, maybe a singing voice instead of this "cat in a blender " voice I have now}. This is just tooo much.
intro> I play at playing bass{5yrs} and impress my non playing friend's on my guitar. I play around with some recording/editing but mainly just love flipin on the drum machine and groovin on my Ernie Ball{music man} Sterling til the sun comes up.
Just wanted to say hey and post a shot of my playground, hope it comes thru, I have no grasp on adding anything to a post, new at forums as I am to linux
24706


Hey it worked... watch out world here I come

[23meg]

Welcome. Are those Event monitors I see there?

[NewOldTimer]

Yeah 20/20's luv em

[23meg]

Those are passive, right? What do you drive them with?

I'm sitting next to a pair of Event TR8s, which I'm very satisfied with.

[NewOldTimer]

self -powered bi-amped going thru yamaha EMX-660 pa

Edit- your testing me passive? here's the spec's, I just know they sound awesome.
My bass is active is that along the same lines as my old Esp "passive" bass24714


Edit previous=spelling

[23meg]

The TR8s have more or less the same components as the 20/20s; I think the only difference is the amplifier, which was improved in the TR8. I tested them against almost all common monitors in the same price range, and even some more expensive Genelecs, and they're definitely winners.

The way you've placed them is far from an ideal mixing setup though.

[NewOldTimer]

Yeah, actually that picture was from last month, finally got the wife to let me take over the spare room and am now reconfiguring my set-up. Will post a new pic when I'm satisfied. that other was from the garage and was a rush job. 10degree's Farenheight right now, I could just about kiss her for letting me in the house. Have wood heat in the garage and well you know about dry heat and warping.

[CPtAJ]

Yeah, actually that picture was from last month, finally got the wife to let me take over the spare room and am now reconfiguring my set-up. Will post a new pic when I'm satisfied. that other was from the garage and was a rush job. 10degree's Farenheight right now, I could just about kiss her for letting me in the house. Have wood heat in the garage and well you know about dry heat and warping.

Am I the only one who found that funny? Sorry, just messing around :p

Thats a very nice setup you have going there. I just have a good ol' acoustic 6-string and my dog :-|

PS: The dog is my muse of sorts. Seriously, she inspires music. Everyone that meets her starts singing to her after playing around for a bit. No one has any particular reason for doing it, they just do it.:confused:

[NewOldTimer]

20+ yrs of marriage will do that to you{lol}. On the dog info when I drop tune my younger Lab/shepard mix starts growling at the cab, don't know if it's the pitch or just my playing.

[Patrick-Ruff]

man, after playing a few of my friends guitars today, I realized how much harder my acoustic is to play, lol.

I tried doing a barre on the 10 that looked lik ethis
10
11
12
12
10
0
yeah, pretty hard for a guitar with a fat neck. (but I still did it :D)

[matthew]

I don't think I have ever posted this. I found a guitar manufacturer's logo guessing game (http://www.logogame.com/game.php?id=17) a while back and thought it was a lot of fun. I also was the 3rd person ever to solve it (http://www.logogame.com/fame.php?id=17)...

Try it out and see how you do. I'm guessing Bezmotivnik might get them all.

[NewOldTimer]

8 of 26 as I hang my head in shame, but I could play something on any of them ...does that count for anything

[dbbolton]

I don't think I have ever posted this. I found a guitar manufacturer's logo guessing game (http://www.logogame.com/game.php?id=17) a while back and thought it was a lot of fun. I also was the 3rd person ever to solve it (http://www.logogame.com/fame.php?id=17)...

Try it out and see how you do. I'm guessing Bezmotivnik might get them all.
what did you put for B.C. Rich ?

it wont accept any of my answers. i assume it's a formatting problem...

[matthew]

what did you put for B.C. Rich ?

it wont accept any of my answers. i assume it's a formatting problem...B.C.Rich finally worked...no spaces. That one was a little frustrating.

[Patrick-Ruff]

I'm starting to distinctly hate my ISP already. right now I have 52kbs down and 200 up when yesterday I had 2900kbs down and 240 up . . . I just got this service yesterday lol.

I think it's far from worth it when you pay 60 bucks for wireless service that is just as slow as dialup on some days . . .

[Patrick-Ruff]

hey matthew, who's playing in your sig now? (and where are you getting those? :S)

[matthew]

hey matthew, who's playing in your sig now? (and where are you getting those? :S)That's me! (in my Jimi Hendrix/Stevie Ray Vaughan/Henry Garza influenced dreams)

I got it from deviantart.com.

[Patrick-Ruff]

lol nice, I'll have to wait to visit that site becuase of my DAMN isp, on the SECOND day of having their service it's as slow as dialup, I mean it's just ridiculous. the first day I had it I was downloading at 100-250KBS and now it's at 4-14kbs average . . . (and it's very inconsistent.)

[Patrick-Ruff]

ahh finally, it's fast again :)

[matthew]

ahh finally, it's fast again :)Yay for you! Mine has gone intermittent...I'm having random disconnects (on ADSL!) that last anywhere from 1 min to 2 hours. Frustrating.

[Requiemx]

I'm a bass player, can I post in here?

[matthew]

I'm a bass player, can I post in here?
Absolutely!

[Patrick-Ruff]

any of you guys ever checked out Pandora?

I think it's hela awesome :). I've also been continually working on my strumming as well as getting myself into the habit of economy picking.

[Patrick-Ruff]

also, matthew, how did you get a pic in your sig? I tried everything and it wouldn't let me.

[matthew]

also, matthew, how did you get a pic in your sig? I tried everything and it wouldn't let me.Sorry, only staff are allowed to have them. It's one of a small number of perks we have. :)

From the forum faq (http://ubuntuforums.org/announcement.php?f=48):
Why can't I use images in my signature? (Why are the staff allowed to use them?)
Banners, flashing images, colorful and hidden links...the list is a long one. This is primarily a tech support forum with a small number of frivolous additions. This was something that people either love or hate, and people looking for tech support answers with as little distraction as possible are among those who hate this feature so we turned it off. The staff of the forums are allowed this as a perk since they are volunteers and receive no payment or other renumeration for their time, efforts and services here.

[PineGroveDave]

Thought I'd chime in here as well. I'm a long time "wannabe" geetar player. My wife and kids say I play well, but I just don't have picking down yet. My 2 guitars are an Ovation 2000 Elite Special and a Brawley Triple Threat Electric. Both are, IMHO, very nice guitars. :)

[matthew]

Thought I'd chime in here as well. I'm a long time "wannabe" geetar player. My wife and kids say I play well, but I just don't have picking down yet. My 2 guitars are an Ovation 2000 Elite Special and a Brawley Triple Threat Electric. Both are, IMHO, very nice guitars. :)Cool. Welcome to the thread. Any pictures?

[Bezmotivnik]

a Brawley Triple Threat Electric. Both are, IMHO, very nice guitars. :)
Keith Brawley was the daddy of the late, lamented DeArmonds.

Last I heard, he was working for Guitar Center. :(

[PineGroveDave]

Cool. Welcome to the thread. Any pictures? Hmm....Thought I did but after checking I guess not. I'll snap a couple off later this week and post them. :)

[NewOldTimer]

Hey can I pick your brain's? I'm thinking about a strobe tuner but have no knowledge about them, worth the $, what's the advantage over your run of the mill bargin bin brands, quality maker's etc, really would like someone other than sale's rep's opinion Thanks I knew I could count on you people.

this is what I'm looking at http://www.petersontuners.com/products/stroborack/

[NewOldTimer]

Whoa whoa one at a time , I'm not a speed reader:confused:

[Patrick-Ruff]

as stated before, this thread runs and slows down, very inconsistently.

I have no idea what a strobe tuner is.

[NewOldTimer]

Patrick-Ruff, Thanks for the heads up on the use. :) Thats the reason for my post, I hear they{strobe} are supposed to be a more accurate way of tuning, and thats about all I know, just hoping for some input, {I'm a noob at everything it seems lately}:(

[Bezmotivnik]

I'm very skeptical of all these gee-whiz tuners, for very good reasons I'm too tired to go into again at the moment. The basic problem is that people simply misunderstand what tuners can and can't do for them. A tuner only reports what goes into it. It doesn't change a problem instrument. With enough damping, people find that this tuner or that one gives them a steady reading from an erratic signal -- but it's a false reading of an unstable source. They are being deceived.

And of course, they love it! :rolleyes:

[Bezmotivnik]

Got another bass tonight, a used Hohner TWP600B. Strange looking piece.

Note cat's misgivings:

http://us.a2.yahoofs.com/users/mQHhBfutulQA/__sr_/c723.jpg?tkn=phgb_0FBbjlbCTr5&saveas=100_0028

[Patrick-Ruff]

eh, I use a microphone with my computer and some software and that tunes it pretty well. you can hook up an electric guitar to a computer with a certain adapter and tune it /very/ acurately.

[NewOldTimer]

Thanks for the replys,
wasn't sure if everything was hype or that I was out of the loop, guess I'll save my money. I've got a little Korg CA30 that Ive been happy with but you know what they say about curiosity and the cat. Speaking of cats... Bezmotivnik..any pictures of the new collection piece?

Bass= playing Bottom Living on Top:KS

[paul cooke]

Got another bass tonight, a used Hohner TWP600B. Strange looking piece.

Note cat's misgivings:

http://us.a2.yahoofs.com/users/mQHhBfutulQA/__sr_/c723.jpg?tkn=phgb_0FBbjlbCTr5&saveas=100_0028

I can't see that link... it gives me a problem loading page error and the url has been changed

http://phvrf.yahoo.com/users/mQHhBfutulQA/__sr_/c723.jpg

Server not found

Firefox can't find the server at phvrf.yahoo.com.

* Check the address for typing errors such as
ww.example.com instead of
www.example.com

* If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network
connection.

* If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure
that Firefox is permitted to access the Web.

[FaceorKneecaps]

I have had my winered Gibson studio light for many years now and cant get bored with the Gibson sound. It have a special feel to it that is very addictive. :)

I dont really like tuners. I know it takes time to learn how to tune by ear but I think it makes you abetter player, especially if you're into improvising. I would recommend tuners to be a test device to see if what you tuned by ear is right. Drop the tuners because it will make you a better player. Like Jimi Hendrix when he tunes the guitar while playing it. Gotta love that guy :KS

[Bezmotivnik]

I can't see that link...
"New and Improved" Yahoo Photos won't hotlink, even after downloading their forced spywared photo client, I guess. Words can't describe my hatred for Google and Yahoo.

Too bad, it's a funny picture.

Try this. (http://new.photos.yahoo.com/golodkin/photo/294928804232791128/1)

[Requiemx]

This is the bass that I wish to purchase next month.

https://www.shopspanish.com/~wwwsout/warockvet5blu.html

[NewOldTimer]

Bezmotivnik... Sweet looking tub, what's that banding look like?anything special{mother/pearl}?

[Bezmotivnik]

Bezmotivnik... Sweet looking tub, what's that banding look like?anything special{mother/pearl}?
Multi-layer. I'm not big on MOTO, though there's some of it at the head on this one.

The shot of the body shows it clearly in this set (http://new.photos.yahoo.com/golodkin/album/576460762389740823), but I am not sure if you can see this in the reduced size, or if you can somehow see the full-sized picture on Yahoo or not, though it's there somewhere. [shrug]

[Bezmotivnik]

Speaking of cats... Bezmotivnik..any pictures of the new collection piece?
Try that new link (http://new.photos.yahoo.com/golodkin/album/576460762389740823). If it doesn't work, tell me.

It's a very weird piece to get used to, really.

On my "wonder if I should do this" list is the Variax bass blowout -- 700s & 705s for $500 everywhere.

http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/8/6/0/306860.jpg

That's 75% off, but I have misgivings, starting with the thing's weight, which is over ten pounds.

Two grand for one is flat insane, but I can't decide if it's even worth $500. It may be a laughable anachronism in five years or -- worse! -- a dead bass with an extinct circuit.

A real puzzler... :-k

[NewOldTimer]

Bezmotivnik,
just reading that "wonder if" line and makes me wonder.. if it plays/feels good is there any "really not worth it" Bass'es, I mean $ withstanding, as long as your comfortable all around then why fret{pun intended}. 10 lbs would make me think twice tho if you gig with-it, and on a personal note I don't play nothing but 4 strings, does the weight come from the extra string{lol}.
did check out your link and I use yahoo, couldn't figure how to full page a view, so I saved as and opened it in my viewer ...nice again...

[Bezmotivnik]

Supposedly, the 5th string adds about eight ounces. The four string versions are available at the same price. My beloved Music Man S.U.B. is nearly 10.5 pounds, which is why I don't play it much.

I've never owned or even played a five string, but figure I should have one for recording, at least.

Remember, this is a Line 6 modeling bass -- if I wasn't clear on it. I'm just not 100% sold on that part.

[NewOldTimer]

Just joking on the string weight. I don't have any line 6 experience so I can't offer any input there.
Wow, just weighed my Ernie Ball Sterling 9.3lb's had no Idea it was that much, I don't go out gigging, usually sitting at my desk{home office} or neighbor's basement couch when we toss around tunes, so never really had to worry about the weight thing. I'm NOT knocking 5,6,7 or ? string Basses, I did have a 5 a few years back for a week{Yamaha something} but traded it for my Fender Strat {squire mex} Guitar.

Edit correction {squire china}

[NewOldTimer]

here's a shot of JoJo {named after my wife..JoAnn] TMI I know 25385

[Patrick-Ruff]

good morning guitarists/bassists.

[matthew]

good morning guitarists/bassists.I like your new avatar!

[Bezmotivnik]

JWow, just weighed my Ernie Ball Sterling 9.3lb's had no Idea it was that much
I think Sterlings may be slightly lighter on average than Stingrays. I'm not sure.

The S.U.B. is a really interesting concept, essentially a weaponized Stingray. I talked with some guy at Ernie Ball about them. Unlike the usual scams, such as Fender's "Highway 1" racket, the S.U.B. is very close to a regular Stingray with the exception of a slab body, a cosmetically lower grade of wood, slightly less fancy machines and that coarse, bulletproof finish and hideous pickguard -- and no case. Everything else is straight Stingray, pickup, neck, hardware, etc...though the S.U.B. also has a passive version, which is what I got. Brand new at Guitar Center for $319 one Thursday morning. Couldn't pass it up at that price. It's an absolutely indestructable piece. The S.U.B. is as ugly as the Stingray is beautiful, but you'l never have to sweat blood worrying about getting a scratch on it.

I'm NOT knocking 5,6,7 or ? string Basses...
I am. That whole bass geek thing has to go.

[Requiemx]

Does anyone here tab songs by ear, or by Guitar pro or power tab?

If so show your tabs to us.

[NewOldTimer]

25470 guitar player 3&4 list

Edit - noob here does this open 4 U

[Patrick-Ruff]

I like your new avatar!

thanks looked pretty cool to me so I decided to put it on :D

edit: nice collection NewOldTimer

[NewOldTimer]

Thanks Patrick-Ruff, I haven't tried using Guitar Pro here yet, does your "putting it on" mean GP work's on ubuntu or are you using wine or Vm? I just copied that list from my xp station thinking all I was doing was showing my taste. Cant wait if it work's, I 've been spending most of my time with audacity. Any other Tab apps for Ubuntu?



Eidt> sorry didn't read your post close enough {duh}

[NewOldTimer]

I found this inspiring http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjY5FUOgqfM&eurl=

[CPtAJ]

Thats awesome. Poor guy, nevermind being blind, playing bar chords with your pinky as the bar? That's gotta suck as a beginner. I wonder why he plays that way...

[NewOldTimer]

Yeah good question, like Jeff Healy also, maybe just more comforable? http://philip.bstrongspeaktru.com/multimedia/video/jeff_healy_montreux_jazz_festival.avi

[Bezmotivnik]

Check out the playing of the late, blind wonder, "Thumbs" Carlisle (http://www.geocities.com/bighollowtwang/ThumbsCarlisle.html). Note hand positions.

[Bezmotivnik]

Oh, and don't forget to go back to the main page and get great links and backgrounds to a wad of greats you probably never heard of.

[NewOldTimer]

Nice Link, Thanks

[CPtAJ]

Check out the playing of the late, blind wonder, "Thumbs" Carlisle (http://www.geocities.com/bighollowtwang/ThumbsCarlisle.html). Note hand positions.
Very nice...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31d7wtfIKA4

[Bezmotivnik]

Very nice...
Interesting stuff.

I was in Guitar Center a couple of months ago when some extremely intense looking guy came in and pulled down a '52 Telecaster and put it across his lap and started playing Carlisle style. He wasn't in the league of The Master, but he was interesting to watch...it's certainly not something you see every day.

[Patrick-Ruff]

yeah really. it's always cool to look at youtube videos of people playing. some of them are just given way too much credit and you see people going crazy over a song that isn't really that hard to play lol.

the joe satriani videos are awesome ;). I don't think I've ever seen anyone pick that fast then on Surfing With The Alien.

[Bezmotivnik]

you see people going crazy over a song that isn't really that hard to play lol.

the joe satriani videos are awesome ;). I don't think I've ever seen anyone pick that fast then on Surfing With The Alien.
Being "hard to play" is inherently meaningless to a song, and -- if anything -- detracts from its musicality. There's nothing musical about mere displays of technical virtuosity.

To say that that Satriani is "a better musician" than...oh, Clapton, for instance...is like saying Hegel was a better writer than Twain because he wrote long, obscure sentences. That's not the point.

Music consumers don't care. Shred gods don't chart.

[CPtAJ]

Being "hard to play" is inherently meaningless to a song, and -- if anything -- detracts from its musicality. There's nothing musical about mere displays of technical virtuosity.

To say that that Satriani is "a better musician" than...oh, Clapton, for instance...is like saying Hegel was a better writer than Twain because he wrote long, obscure sentences. That's not the point.

Music consumers don't care. Shred gods don't chart.
Art should be about the artist's vision. Not its marketability.

That said, I agree that technical complexity for the sake of technical complexity is a bit misguided. But if its technical complexity for the sake of the artist's vision then so be it. It should not matter wether it "charts" or not.

There's a difference between art and engineering of the arts. One sells records, the other just exists for itself.

[23meg]

Art should be about the artist's vision. Not its marketability.

That said, I agree that technical complexity for the sake of technical complexity is a bit misguided. But if its technical complexity for the sake of the artist's vision then so be it. It should not matter wether it "charts" or not.
To me, in rough terms, the vision of so called virtuoso players such as Satriani seems to be limited, rather than enhanced, by technical complexity and the desire to achieve it.

As a contrasting example, the first that comes to my mind is Jimi Hendrix.

[Patrick-Ruff]

and Jimi Hendrix was actually worried about sales . . . lmao.

[Bezmotivnik]

Art should be about the artist's vision. Not its marketability.

That was the context of the original point, however -- that people could "go crazy" over music that wasn't difficult to perform.

My answer was that most people -- who constitute the market, by definition -- do.

[Bezmotivnik]

As a contrasting example, the first that comes to my mind is Jimi Hendrix.
Hendrix was not a great technician and he was certainly no shredder as we know them today.

He was a great innovator as a player and, especially, as a theatrical performer.

Above and beyond all else, however, and most importantly he was wildly successful product. He was aggressively and cunningly promoted, packaged and marketed. He was an extremely successful commodity and he made a lot of money for the people who in essence owned him...and continues to do so to this day.

I also think it killed him. I was actually around Hendrix for a bit in early '70, some months before he died. My lasting impression of him to this day is that he may have been the most comprehensively unhappy, depressed person I've ever observed, and I've spent my life around miserable people.

He died at exactly the right time to assure his permanent celebrity and iconic marketability.

When I was having my fifteen minutes as a music & broadcast industy bigshot in NYC over twenty-five years ago, I told my people something that seemed obvious to me, but not to them: "The music business isn't about music; it's about business." The music and the musicians are just the raw materials, just as in any other industry.

[FaceorKneecaps]

Hendrix was not a great technician and he was certainly no shredder as we know them today.


There are some of Hendrixes riffs that we, even in our technical and digital world, can not understand. And who is a better guitar player than he?!!!!

[CPtAJ]

To me, in rough terms, the vision of so called virtuoso players such as Satriani seems to be limited, rather than enhanced, by technical complexity and the desire to achieve it.

As a contrasting example, the first that comes to my mind is Jimi Hendrix.
They're just preaching to a different choir. That doesn't mean their vision is in any way limited. It's just different.

And Bezmotivnik, I see now that you were talking about the industry specifically. I agree with you there, from an industrial point of view. I find it disgusting though, that art should be whored around like that and even replaced with simple engineering of the arts.

But I guess its just a personal opinion. People like their moneys.

[Bezmotivnik]

I find it disgusting though, that art should be whored around like that
No one will ever know or care about your "art" unless a businessman sees some value in it and competently markets it.

That's simply reality. It's ALWAYS been that way, too.

[adamJ5]

Hey ya'll. II'm thinking about getting either a Line 6 Pod or a Korg AX5G. Anyone got some experience with any of those two? Can I use them with Linux?


Cheers.

[ComplexNumber]

i thought that this (http://www.boingboing.net/2007/02/21/1500_electric_guitar.html) was interesting - guy makes his own $1500 guitar from a $15 cheapo IKEA furniture. he had this to say:
What a shame that they would use such amazing "tone-wood" for their cheap furniture. Its a sacrilege.

[matthew]

i thought that this (http://www.boingboing.net/2007/02/21/1500_electric_guitar.html) was interesting - guy makes his own $1500 guitar from a $15 cheapo IKEA furniture. he had this to say:I was about to post that myself. If I were somewhere where I could buy the parts without having them mailed to me I would do this...but mine would have a cooler headstock. :) Very cool.

[ComplexNumber]

I was about to post that myself. If I were somewhere where I could buy the parts without having them mailed to me I would do this...but mine would have a cooler headstock. :) Very cool.
if he can get 3 $1500 guitars from 1 $15 IKEA table, then i think he should start his own business :mrgreen:.
even if they were mailed to you, you could still make a huge profit.
i agree about the headstock - its not really 'in balance' with the body of the guitar.

[Bezmotivnik]

Tonewood doesn't have knots in it. :rolleyes:

Making your own guitar really makes no sense these days anyway. CNT automation and skilled Third-World labor ensures that you can buy a far better guitar than you can possibly build yourself for far less than it would cost you to build it. It's just a fool's errand.

Spend your time and energy making music, not musical instruments.

$1500? Yeah, right.

[NewOldTimer]

Opinions vary, thats why I love this forum.

all wood is tonewood of various degree, knots in hardwood with a tight grain, I believe are not going to constitute any noticeable difference{to the human ear} than a body with out knots.

As a woodworker myself, some of us find the music of our craft as enjoyable as the crafting of our music.

Lastly, when you pour your heart an soul into crafting an instrument, as in putting your Heart an soul into your music, price becomes insignificant.

[Bezmotivnik]

knots in hardwood with a tight grain, I believe are not going to constitute any noticeable difference{to the human ear} than a body with out knots.

Manufacturers universally disagree with you, and pay high premiums for consistent-grain woods of uniform density, aside from purely ornamental veneers.

FMIC, to my direct knowledge, has no less than four ascending grades of wood (within the same species) for its blanks, with uniformity of grain and densities largely determining the price.

[23meg]

Hendrix was not a great technician and he was certainly no shredder as we know them today.

He was a great innovator as a player and, especially, as a theatrical performer.True, and what sets him apart from the greater or just as great technicians (I lack a true sense of measure in that department, sorry) is the simple fact that he had songs.

No one will ever know or care about your "art" unless a businessman sees some value in it and competently markets it.

That's simply reality. It's ALWAYS been that way, too.Do you think there's any chance teh internets and the accompanying flux of media technologies will change that, to some degree?

They're just preaching to a different choir. That doesn't mean their vision is in any way limited. It's just different.I can agree with that. I could speculate further about that crowd's degree of demand for a vision, but there's not much use really.

[23meg]

Question: has anyone tried putting low-gain, high-volume overdrive or a clean booster pedal in an effects loop to boost the signal of the preamp section of an amplifier, to hit the power stage with a louder signal and maybe get more power stage saturation?

I won't get a chance to try it with my tube amp until late tomorrow so I just thought I'd toss it out here.

[NewOldTimer]

Manufacturers universally disagree with you, and pay high premiums for consistent-grain woods of uniform density, aside from purely ornamental veneers.

FMIC, to my direct knowledge, has no less than four ascending grades of wood (within the same species) for its blanks, with uniformity of grain and densities largely determining the price.


And I can disagree with the manufacturers, they are striving to convince you{players in general}
that they have the best in research,knowledge,yada,yada, and that your not playing with the best if you don't use their "product's}. That to me seems to be along the same lines of the OS wars, you and only you can make great sounding music. Remember washtub Basses. My friend can make my pos squire sound incredible, which leads me to believe "it's how you play" not what you play.
just "my" thought's

[CPtAJ]

Opinions vary, thats why I love this forum.

all wood is tonewood of various degree, knots in hardwood with a tight grain, I believe are not going to constitute any noticeable difference{to the human ear} than a body with out knots.

As a woodworker myself, some of us find the music of our craft as enjoyable as the crafting of our music.

Lastly, when you pour your heart an soul into crafting an instrument, as in putting your Heart an soul into your music, price becomes insignificant.
I agree with you. Nothing you'll ever buy will mean as much as something you made with your own hands.

I guess I'm just a sucker for the spiritual side of art. Making your own guitar... perhaps from the wood of a tree that was knocked down by a lighting, now that's a great story to tell the fans! ;-)

[Patrick-Ruff]

so one of my friends pointed out a flaw in my picking style. apparently I'm supposed to pick and strum with only my wrist and fingers (weird) I havent been able to really master this, I noticed that when I put support right below the sound hole of the acoustic with my pinkey and move that way I can go very fast but it seems like it isn't right to me.

does anyone have a really good grasp on proper picking as to explain /show me a video of what is propor?

self learning is kinda lame :(.

[NewOldTimer]

just did a google search with "strumming guitar lessons".... look under video. tons to choose from

[Patrick-Ruff]

uh, that doesn't work almost 80% of the time. I've probably looked at almost all of those videos.

and I might also add that my problem is with a picking style, not strumming.

here's a link to a video I recorded (really low quality but it's all good) of my playing guitar, the very observant ones among us may be able to tell me what I'm doing wrong ;).

http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/91202/playing-guitar-wmv.html

[NewOldTimer]

Sorry twice.. once for mis-reading and once for not being able to view your link:confused:

Now "this" guy can show you some "pickin style":)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2WQk5M2OCk lol

[Patrick-Ruff]

sorry but I didn't learn anything from that, at all.

I'll upload my video on youtube.

[Patrick-Ruff]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cePZBLlabTE

there's the video.

[NewOldTimer]

sorry but I didn't learn anything from that, at all.

I'll upload my video on youtube.


Sorry Patrick_Ruff that was just a link/vid I found funny'

As to your picking I think your doing fine, it takes practice as you know, just try to keep your hands relaxed and listen to what your playing not so much on technique, that probably doesn't sound right but just try it for a few days and it will start to feel natural to you ,Then you can think about your style, as long as your comfortable with your self don't worry about what others say.

Now if your trying to copy a particular style then you'll need study that style to apply it to your capabilities ....and go from there.

[Patrick-Ruff]

hmm, well thanks for the advice, I'm going to see what my friend meant on monday.

[GuitarHero]

Your hand looks really tense. Just curl your other three unused fingers and don't tighten them up. Your wrist shouldn't be tense either. Adjusting pick thickness could help too, find one you're comfortable with. I like .78 for strumming and 2.00 for single notes(2.00 is uncommonly thick, i dont recommend you try it)

[Patrick-Ruff]

well, I'm not sure if this has anything to do with it but my right arm is disabled. I can only bend my wrist about half way, max to shake someones hand for example.

[Bezmotivnik]

"Vomitous Color Price Drop Effect, Part XXIV..."

You want a brand new Les Paul Standard for $1699? Just get it in this dreadful "Latte Creme" finish:

http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/6/3/9/273639.jpg

Incredibly, they allegedly produced an even more shockingly awful gold/green scheme, "Gecko":

http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/6/4/0/273640.jpg

...but I think they were all strangled at birth.

[Patrick-Ruff]

I pity anyone who spends that much money on a guitar that looks like that.


good night.

[chavo]

I pity anyone who spends that much money on a guitar that looks like that.


good night.

I pity anybody that pities anbody that plays the guitar. Playing guitar is so not about pity, or looks, or anything of this Earth. It is a gift from somewhere we've have not been yet. It is the Universal language, something you've not yet mastered. In time young grasshopper, in time.

[Bezmotivnik]

I pity anyone who spends that much money on a guitar that looks like that.

I pity the foo' who hostilely posts, "Dude, whaddya mean? I think that looks really sharp!"

Haw!

Speaking of the odd-looking axe, these are being blown out for $199.99, shipped (about 70% off MSRP), and if you can stand the weird Chafin bridgeplate are supposed to be very nice axes -- PAF-Plus humbuckers, Grovers, split-coils, apparently Cor-Tek built:

http://img3.guitarcenter.com/dbase/pics/products/8/7/8/448878.jpg

I'm thinking about it. It's been about eight days or so since I bought a guitar, right? :rolleyes: It might stop me from buying one of these for $1099 (MSRP $3225):

http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/3/3/7/274337.jpg

If it weren't for that freakin' gold pimp trim, I'd do it.

[Bezmotivnik]

Lying here listening to the cat snore, I realized what my problem is -- er, well, one of my problems -- that keeps me buying axes hand over fist without achieving any satisfying resolution:

I can't find the instrument that visually suits the aesthetic presentation and image I'm after.

I was planning some photo portrait layouts for personal promo use and I realized I didn't have a bass that really fit the image I wish to convey -- sophisticated, tasteful, upscale, but not stuffy.

That's a tall order that eliminates virtually everything.

I'm not asking for suggestions, I'm just thinking aloud about this blinding epiphany. :-k

[matthew]

I was planning some photo portrait layouts for personal promo use and I realized I didn't have a bass that really fit the image I wish to convey -- sophisticated, tasteful, upscale, but not stuffy.Hmm...that is a tall order. Have you tried one of these?

:lolflag:

Okay, the Sting signature Fender might work...in retrospect you don't really strike me as the Bootsy Collins or Gene Simmons type. :)
It's a good thing you weren't really asking for suggestions...

[Patrick-Ruff]

morning all. I've basically concluded that the only block I have now is in my picking hand. my fretting hand appears to be doing more then well ;).

[Bezmotivnik]

It's a good thing you weren't really asking for suggestions...
Despite the disfiguring inlay, the Sting (or '54RI, as I prefer to call it) is my primary bass.

[Bezmotivnik]

I've basically concluded that the only block I have now is in my picking hand. my fretting hand appears to be doing more then well ;).
Well, then you're 50% up on me.

[Patrick-Ruff]

really? what's the block for you?

[Bezmotivnik]

really? what's the block for you?
Poor strength and coordination in both hands. Forever.

Being a geezer with lifelong arthritis, deformations and apparent post-polio syndrome, I have increasing pain, weakness and orthopedic problems in my hands with each passing year. I adapt.

Incredibly, I improve. Possibly because I play more with my head than with my hands.

[Patrick-Ruff]

I immagine it's 8x harder for you. since you have to play mostly consciously . . .

[Bezmotivnik]

I immagine it's 8x harder for you. since you have to play mostly consciously . . .
Or subconsciously, or in my sleep, or something. Ha! I'm not sure. My brain doesn't work that well either...

[Patrick-Ruff]

yeah, speaking of sleep, I should get too that.

good night

[Patrick-Ruff]

ok so I've been spending days of practice to figure out how to get my picking style right . . . ugh, I wish online guitar lessons weren't so bloody vegue with how you're supposed to go about doing all this. I have yet to find a really good guitar lesson online that emphasizes all the precise details that DO make a difference in your playing . . .

2 of my friends told me I have to rest my palm on the bridge and pick somehow like that, I changed the way I hold the pick again so it's more towards the tip of my 1st finger and my thumb . . . it's just so confusing to get it right . . .

[Bezmotivnik]

2 of my friends told me I have to rest my palm on the bridge and pick somehow like that. . . it's just so confusing to get it right . . .
To put this into perspective, the "correct" way to play guitar in all the old "guitar method" books required that "the right hand should never touch the instrument while playing."

One of the reasons I have such a terrible time playing Stratocasters is that their ergonomics were laid out in 1954 with this style of right hand work in mind.

If you closely watch videos of twenty different guitarists playing, you'll see at least ten different styles of picking and hand positions.

My point is this: There is no longer a "correct" way of doing this, particularly if the player if faced with his own unique orthopedic problems, as many of us are. You have to find a way that seems "natural" to you and accomplishes what you wish to do. Nothing else matters.

[Patrick-Ruff]

alright, thanks for the advice. good night

[Chinkostu]

the only time you should really rest on the bridge is when you palm mute. otherwise it really hinders you. when i'm not strumming i tend to rest my pinky on the body as an 'anchor' below the first string. not necessary, but helps if you can't hit the right string.

[matthew]

To put this into perspective, the "correct" way to play guitar in all the old "guitar method" books required that "the right hand should never touch the instrument while playing."

One of the reasons I have such a terrible time playing Stratocasters is that their ergonomics were laid out in 1954 with this style of right hand work in mind.

If you closely watch videos of twenty different guitarists playing, you'll see at least ten different styles of picking and hand positions.

My point is this: There is no longer a "correct" way of doing this, particularly if the player if faced with his own unique orthopedic problems, as many of us are. You have to find a way that seems "natural" to you and accomplishes what you wish to do. Nothing else matters.I agree with this. In fact, I think it's fun to learn different ways of strumming, different postures, and incorporate them into my overall style. I can mimic several known people and do a few of my own styles as well. It just adds more colors to the palate.

[Bezmotivnik]

I can mimic several known people and do a few of my own styles as well. It just adds more colors to the palate.
Sure. Where you pick the strings (never mind how) probably has a bigger effect on tone than your choice of pickup brand and model.

[AZzKikR]

Alrighty fellow Ubuntu guitarists. Thought I'd share my recent purchase: a Yamaha CPX900, in black. I ordered it two weeks ago, and it should be available this week.

Click here for the picture (http://www.yamaha-europe.com/picture_archiv/products/10_Musical_instruments/guitars_basses_amps/cpx_electric_guitars/cpx_guitars/cpx900_mbl_high_jpg.jpg).

I can't wait...! All I need after this is an amplifier, although I can connect it to my electric guitar amp.

[Bezmotivnik]

the only time you should really rest on the bridge is when you palm mute. otherwise it really hinders you. when i'm not strumming i tend to rest my pinky on the body as an 'anchor' below the first string.
By doing some forensic analysis of finish damage on my guitars (very interesting in understanding the playing methods of the previous owners of used instruments, BTW), I have discovered that I hook my little finger underneath the bridge pickup and apparently hang on like grim death.

not necessary, but helps if you can't hit the right string.
Oh, I still can't hit the right string.:rolleyes: Funny, but as a lead player I think I learned how to work my way out of mistakes so cleverly and seamlessly so early in my playing that I never felt the necessity to develop better technique. It was more intellectually challenging to do instant, real-time repairs.

I remember one time my band was playing in Germany and after the set, my drummer said, "Man, during the last couple of numbers you were really playing great and differently than I've ever heard you play before." I told him, "I broke a B string."

[Patrick-Ruff]

don't like the gold hardware.

I've played yamaha's before. they're pretty good.

but my all time favorite acoustic guitars are TAYLOR's :D. they are soo awesome.


oh and another note on style, my friend said that it's not exactly on the bridge but you're lifting your hand up with your pinkey right under the sound hole, it's really vegue.

good thing I'm taking guitar next year anyways. I just want to get my picking down so I can get on with playing more and more :).

edit: good morning bezmotivnik, looks like we posted at the same time ;).

[Bezmotivnik]

Alrighty fellow Ubuntu guitarists. Thought I'd share my recent purchase: a Yamaha CPX900, in black.
Looks kind of like this one (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibson-J180EC-Special-AcousticElectric-Guitar?sku=517175X) I'm considering buying...though I'm sure the Yamaha's better-made.

[Bezmotivnik]

don't like the gold hardware.
I've come to the conclusion that goldtone's OK on some types of guitars IF it's where you never touch it. Otherwise it's doomed to a quick and unsightly demise. :(

good morning bezmotivnik, looks like we posted at the same time ;).
I hope you haven't been up all night like I have.

[Bezmotivnik]

This is an interesting deal (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibson-Les-Paul-Vintage-Mahogany-Electric-Guitar?sku=517536X): Musician's Friend has the Gibson Les Paul mahogany "Vintage" in "blems" for $611.99, shipped, with hardshell case:

http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/1/1/5/274115.jpg

What it is is a Les Paul Studio with arched mahogany top, matte finish and Burstbuckers.

Here's the slideshow (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/document?cpd=0OEY&doc_id=99371&g=guitar&base_pid=517536&index=0).

These go in and out of stock hourly and the page isn't updated accurately. If you want one, call and ask them to check the warehouse. Number is 517536X and the price is good until 13 March.

A "blem" can be anything from perfect (if there's ever been a perfect Gibson in the past thirty-five years) to pretty badly damaged. If it's seriously damaged, they'll replace it entirely at their expense, including shipping both ways. Typically, there's nothing but a ding or a scratch on the case or something of that nature, which you'll get on one off the floor at Guitar Center anyway. [shrug] I've bought tons of blem stuff from MF over the years and have only had one really bad piece, which they replaced with a new A-stock at no expense to me.

As ambivalent as I am about Gibsons and the typical oppressive weight of Les Pauls, I'm considering this one...maybe. :-k

[Patrick-Ruff]

looks kinda nice. I prefer a more glossy look on the body.

[Bezmotivnik]

looks kinda nice. I prefer a more glossy look on the body.
That's where most of the money currently goes in production labor.

Here's a shiny axe I'm sorely tempted to bag, though Im not 100% on the color. The "flamed ash" is a welcome break from the usual gaudy maple:

http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/8/6/8/269868.jpg


MF is dumping them for $305.99 (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-Showmaster-Flame-HH-Guitar-?sku=511334X), which is only about $60 more than the MSRP of the nice US Duncan pickups.

[Patrick-Ruff]

are they humbuckers? I don't exactly see why single-coil is still around if we can make humbuckers that can turn off one of the coil's to make the whole single-coil sound . . . could someone elaborate that? ;)

that guitar looks very nice btw. but it seems like it's exposing too many wood lines for it to look /really/ sexy.

[Bezmotivnik]

are they humbuckers?
Yep, and good ones. Duncan '59RP neck and Pearly Gates+ bridge. These are somewhat conservative choices for a shred-type guitar, though. Very "vintage" rather than having blistering gain, but nice-sounding.
I don't exactly see why single-coil is still around if we can make humbuckers that can turn off one of the coil's to make the whole single-coil sound . . . could someone elaborate that? ;)

Sure: The problem is that they don't quite pull it off convincingly to pro ears. Pickups, which are extremely primitive devices in theory, have incredibly subtle complexities in practice. The whole coil-splitting fad is blowing over somewhat as the results, while interesting, aren't really all that hot as high-quality single-coil simulations. The current trend is to use switches to do phase-reversal in the humbucker coils, as is the case with this one.

Many (possibly most) guitarists seem to prefer the sound of classic single coil instruments, but don't want the inconvenience of noise and the typically lower output of single coils.

Guitar manufacturers and aftermarket pickup builders have been trying for years to come up with a noiseless substitute for the Telecaster, Stratocaster and Gibson P-90 pickups that most users of those instruments will accept as being as tonefully good as the single-coil originals. So far they haven't done it.

that guitar looks very nice btw. but it seems like it's exposing too many wood lines for it to look /really/ sexy.

It looks like quarter-sawn ash laminate. There are some really beautiful solid-ash bodies, but they are usually cut for less dramatic grain spread. Anyway, they're an interesting change from the quilted maple look, which is getting pretty boring.

[Patrick-Ruff]

I got an idea, lets all state our favorite acoustic riff's. I kinda ran out my self (there are lots but I feel like playing an acoustic riff that's much longer then some of these songs that I see.)

[tbodine]

Well, I don't play _guitar_ I actually play bass guitar, but it's a form of guitar, so I'm going ahead and posting.
I've been playing for about a month, on my four string, but I still don't have an amp, hopefully I'm getting one next Monday for my birthday.
I've found one good site, http://www.bassmasta.net that has quite a few bass tabs(it's all bass tabs, but it's got quite a few of them), but I'm looking for some more "underground" tabs, if anyone knows where to find some more bass tabs, please let me know, thanks.

[Bezmotivnik]

A lot of major tab sites have been taken down in the past couple of years due to aggressive suppression by the RIAA for putative copyright violation.

You might ask around on the forums at www.talkbass.com to see if there are many good bass tab sites left anywhere.

I looked around for a few a year or so ago, but couldn't find bass tabs for any material in which I was interested. :(

Good luck on the amp. I'm sure the neighbors will be thrilled! :) I shudder to think of the civil disruptions I could cause with my larger bass rigs...but nobody in the neighborhood even suspects I'm a musician. ;) I'm that quiet and discreet.

[NewOldTimer]

I agree with Bezmotivnik, those sites are disappearing as fast as vista users.
bout the only one I ever look thru anymore...> http://www.findtabs.com/bass/

[NewOldTimer]

I got an idea, lets all state our favorite acoustic riff's. I kinda ran out my self (there are lots but I feel like playing an acoustic riff that's much longer then some of these songs that I see.)

Showing my age :)
http://www.tabs4acoustic.com/uk/guitar-tabs/orbison-roy-tabs/pretty-woman-tab.php
http://www.tabs4acoustic.com/uk/guitar-tabs/the-beatles-tabs/come-together-tab.php

[Bezmotivnik]

the only one I ever look thru anymore...> http://www.findtabs.com/bass/
Hmm. Did you notice that all but one of the "new" bass tabs on the index page are over a year old? :(

I wonder what that's about... Man, the tab sites that are still up are just dead, I swear! Why? Chilling effect from RIAA? Sad...

[NewOldTimer]

Hmm. Did you notice that all but one of the "new" bass tabs on the index page are over a year old? :(

I wonder what that's about... Man, the tab sites that are still up are just dead, I swear! Why? Chilling effect from RIAA? Sad...

Yeah, its getting so sad, it probably won't be long until we won't even be able to interpret our own thoughts into tab, with out previously sending royaities to ourselves.

As to the old listings on the "still up" sites.... most of my taste reside in music from 20 to 40 yrs ago. and as an "in the pocket" kinda player, I don't need any "Flea, Victor, Jaco or who ever" tab anyway's. Just as satisfied playing just the Root as I am trying to improv. i use found Tab's as something I can incorporate into new fingering exercise's.

[ncappel1]

Anyone here into latin guitar?

I myself am a classical guitarist, (Playing a concert on thursday!) but love to play latin music too. Here in upstate newyork I play in a couple groups: a samba band (http://www.ithacasamba.com/) (site still under construction), and Choro group, and a Bossa nova combo (which unfortunately just broke up) :(

I just got an offer to play with a local salsa band...but I don't know how long they'll keep me when they find out that I've never played salsa before. Hopefully they'll be patient and teach me some things about the music!

[Patrick-Ruff]

ok, does anyone know of any online guitar lessons that focus in great detail on the picking hand? I could really use something like that as I find that almost every lesson I come across lacks this detail. it's kinda sad that almost all of them don't even tell you how to hold the pick correctly.

video lessons are cool too if you guys know of any (and if I need to use some P2P I'm cool with that too ;) ).

[NewOldTimer]

Hopefully they'll be patient and teach me some things about the music!

Just learned somethings myself, Thanks http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salsa_music

this is from above link "The most important instrumentation in salsa is the percussion" geez I hope our drummer doesn't see this :)

[Patrick-Ruff]

it's amazing how many commercial lessons don't focus on holding the pick, and the picking hand. just ridiculous. I've never had any problems with my fretting hand besides using my pinkey, they're all very simple concepts; holding the pick and the picking hand are very vague concepts that are EASY to screw up on.

[AZzKikR]

Alright guys, I just got my spanking-new Yamaha CPX900, Mocha black electric-acoustic guitar. Sounds very, very swell, although I have to make a few adjustment to the neck, because the strings tend to vibrate against the fretboard. I'd have to bend it a bit further (have to find out how, though).

I am searching for some really nice acoustic riffs. I am sort of tired of playing (mostly) chords only, and I am looking for a tadbit different riffs. Any ideas for songs?

[Bezmotivnik]

I have to make a few adjustment to the neck, because the strings tend to vibrate against the fretboard. I'd have to bend it a bit further (have to find out how, though).

It sounds as though the trussrod needs to be slightly loosened, to add "relief." That's somewhat unusual on a new guitar unless it's been re-strung with lighter or lower-tension strings by the new owner. Usually there's too much relief, but atmospheric changes during the shipping of a new instrument can make the neck out of adjustment in either way.

With the guitar fully strung and in tune, hold the big E string down at the first fret with your left thumb and hold it down at the last fret with your right hand. Look at the string right in the very center point of the fretboard. There should be some clearance between the string and the frets there. The crude measurement is "about the thickness of a credit card" at the center. Do this on the other (high) E string, and the clearance should be roughly the same, otherwise the fretboard is not true and you have a structural problem. If you take this measurement and an appropriate amount of relief is present and you still have fret buzz your problem is elsewhere.

If you don't have relief there, or it's very little, you need to gently LOOSEN the trussrod adjustment slightly, say a eighth-turn. Make absolutely positive that the tool you are using is a proper fit into the adjustor and is fully seated, otherwise you can strip the head.

After slightly loosening the trussrod, gently bump the center of the back of the neck a few times with the heel of your hand to make sure that the trussrod inside the neck isn't bound-up to the wood. See if your adjustment has had some effect by re-checking the clearance as above.

If you are loosening the trussrod, don't loosen it quite enough to give the desired relief, just enough to show that you have increased it some. As the neck "settles" in the next few days, the amount of the relief will typically increase. If after a few days it still needs some more, then repeat the above procedure.

Proper neck adjustment is not difficult to do, but nearly everyone (including nearly all self-ordained "guitar techs") does it wrong, which frequently leads to fatal damage to the instrument. DEcreasing relief is much more dangerous, as you are INcreasing the tensions and pressures within the neck and this requires some more complicated steps to do safely and properly.

[AZzKikR]

It sounds as though the trussrod (...) steps to do safely and properly.

Thanks for that information. I tend to do it by my own, but my experience in adjusting guitars besides stringing them is about 0%. It's a guitar of €800 so I am afraid I will damage it in such a way that it will be broken.. I will check out your instructions to check the gap between the frets and the strings. If the gap is too small I'll just take it to the store from which I ordered it, and let them do the adjustments!

[skywalker___]

ALLRIGHTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

I play left handed so I took a yamaha and well lets just say people call it the Beast I cut the top part off so I can play pass the 12th fret and I put Fender-Lace-Sensor pickup's in it and I disconnected the tone knob I was trying to emulate Eddie VanHalen but Iam a Big Rush fan I also changed my tuneing keys they are also Fender the sound is thick and heavy but I did some work to the toggel switch so it works like a on and off switch
and a supper bright tone then it goes to a little wing type tone
then it goes to a wontone underwater type tone then off so I only have 3 opps on my toggel switch...

and this is the Beast :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar:

[Flexable]

I got a kramer st100 model the old ones with the floyd rose !
podxt and Pod 2.0 directed conected to my 5.1 sound cart and direct midi
Did you guys hear any management software for podxt ??
Would be thankfull any help
Kind regards
Antonis

[Bezmotivnik]

Here's a shiny axe I'm sorely tempted to bag, though Im not 100% on the color. The "flamed ash" is a welcome break from the usual gaudy maple:

http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/8/6/8/269868.jpg

Well, I just ordered one. Mark Wong put me up to it so he can photograph it, I guess.

I can't believe me sometimes...:rolleyes:

[Patrick-Ruff]

lol nice

[Bezmotivnik]

lol nice
The converstation went something like,

"Really, you think I should get this thing?"

"Go! Yes! I wish I could! It looks great!"

"You want to photograph this, right?"

"Well...Yes..."

"Don't you think it looks like cedar fencing or quarter-sawn pallet wood?"

"Yes, but that's what's so cool about it!"

[sigh!]

So, he's going to be in the Guitarmageddon thing at Guitar Center next Tuesday so I'll give it to him there...and flee for my life. I'd rather take ten beatings than to listen to that stuff.

In about ten days I imagine there'll be a photo spread of it on his site.

[Patrick-Ruff]

right on, I can't remember what his site is :( lol. time to look back through 90 page (45 in which I posted on ;) )

[Patrick-Ruff]

check out this beauty

limited edition epiphone les paul custom (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/-Limited-Edition-Les-Paul-Custom?sku=519391)

[skywalker___]

nice pat

I will post a pic of the Beast before and a after.....
but I'm a lefty I can play a righthanded guitar upside down.
I really hate being lefty I even keep my mouse on the lefthand side of my work place... but hey has anyone tryed to do this beside me I recorded some songs useing my PC mic wheir I sodded my pickups in my guitar I have a open F type hole in the body I just stuck the PC mic in their and recorded a few riff's my PC mic is small the feedback wasn't that bad but I just wanted a different sound not useing my amp....
if you know wheir I can get a PRS the kind Alex Lifeston played
from Rush I'm looking for one lefthanded.Hey you seen Eddie VanHalen ....http://www.vintagekramer.com/5150f.htm
Kramer Ad Replica Frankie
Made in Neptune, NJ. $35.000 of this one Frankenstein
(early with Strat Headstock........ and do you or anyone in this world will pay the money for this guitar If I had the money I would get a Replica but I would not be able to enjoy it because I'm lefty.....I had a bunch of Boot VH I have the F your girlfriend with drunk Dave that concert was in Donnington England 1984 I had their first live in Passdena Cali 1978 is the oldest concert I have of Eddie.. a old friend of mine is their bigest fan he drilled Van Halen in my head but Iam a big Rush fan so.... Eddie has a porn star cast in his house I seen this DVD of him playing drums and drinking the DVD is new his new girlfriend is a porn star but wolfgang his son will be playing bass on tour someting about the child labor laws had to get cleared or something but anyway keep rock'n and let me know if ya find a lefty RPS rush version:guitar:

[Bezmotivnik]

check out this beauty
That's definitely one of the strangest pictures I've ever seen. B&W, or is the guitar totally monochrome? :confused:

Marks's site. (http://photoweborama.com/guitars/)

[Patrick-Ruff]

I guess it depends on your taste, personally I would prefer that guitar but in cherry sunburst ;). (I like the black pickguard.)

and as far as the righty-lefty thing, I'm left handed and I play righthanded.

here's a video of me playing the solo for Wish You Were Here, I'm still not really sure about my picking style so could you guys check it out and tell me if I'm doing anything really wrong? thanks

link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzM-mVjyNjs)

[Patrick-Ruff]

is it possible to change the tuner knobs on an epiphone les paul standard? it looks like it has plastic ones . . . and I was also wondering if it's possible to buy a black pickguard for it, pretty much making it the guitar that fits my taste ;).

[Bezmotivnik]

and as far as the righty-lefty thing, I'm left handed and I play righthanded.
I don't worry about that with guitar. It seems to me to be backwards anyway. It's all just how you learn, mostly.

here's a video of me playing
I've watched the video several times, but for some reason it's so choppy I can't make anything of it. :confused:

[Bezmotivnik]

is it possible to change the tuner knobs on an epiphone les paul standard? it looks like it has plastic ones . . . and I was also wondering if it's possible to buy a black pickguard for it, pretty much making it the guitar that fits my taste ;).

Gibson Les Pauls traditionally had Kluson Deluxe machines, which had plastic or celluloid "keystone" knobs. These were regarded as "fancy" at the time. So...they still usually have that style, though Kluson's gone. If it's a big deal, you can switch to Grovers or something, but it's a hassle and expense.

You can get Les Paul pickguards in virtually any color imaginable, though I am not sure if the Gibson & Epiphone ones are 100% perfectly interchangeable. Black pickguards on cherryburst don't really look that hot to me, though.

[Patrick-Ruff]

I'll record another video

[Patrick-Ruff]

ok here it is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSUMGTtnHdA

I made sure to get a bit closer on my picking hand at the last part. I used different recording software so no skipping.

[Patrick-Ruff]

I'm working on my finger picking for the time being.

[23meg]

I have a gig on saturday night, 40-something hours ahead. I just bought a new set of electric guitar strings (.008 - .038), and the old ones are getting... old. They've started to sound bad, and even worse, they go out of tune easily. But the problem is, if I put the new ones on this late, they may as well.

I've made this mistake before as well; buying the strings too late, leaving too little time for them to settle before proper playing. So here's the question: how much do you typically wait before the strings settle and are ready to be played? Do you stretch and flex the strings upwards for them to settle faster?

[Patrick-Ruff]

I don't know, perhaps just play your regular stuff over and over for the next 10 hours and that should make a huge difference ;).

[Bezmotivnik]

I've made this mistake before as well; buying the strings too late, leaving too little time for them to settle before proper playing. So here's the question: how much do you typically wait before the strings settle and are ready to be played?
Modern strings should be stable in a day or two. Frankly, I've never paid that much attention to it. Ashbory bass strings (which are silicone rubber) will put this into perspective. It takes at least two weeks before they will stay even approximately in tune for more than a few minutes.

Good luck!

[23meg]

I put them on. I don't think they can be any worse than the old ones already are.

How about stretching (pulling all the strings up for a certain period)? I've heard people suggesting against it, saying it reduces string life; on the other hand it's such common practice.

[Bezmotivnik]

How about stretching (pulling all the strings up for a certain period)? I've heard people suggesting against it, saying it reduces string life; on the other hand it's such common practice.
I have no idea. I've never done it nor heard of it, though can think of a few reasons why it might be a bad idea. I just noticed that you are using .008"s, which may have more of a problem with stretch than more normal gauges, I dunno.

I suggest playing the new strings fairly vigorously for a few hours to get them seated and set.

[matthew]

I put them on. I don't think they can be any worse than the old ones already are.

How about stretching (pulling all the strings up for a certain period)? I've heard people suggesting against it, saying it reduces string life; on the other hand it's such common practice.I do this regularly. Here's my main routine for string changes.

1. Change the strings one at a time. I like to alternate, every other string, but I don't have a good reason for that. I'll usually go high-e, g, a, b, d, low-e.

2. When I fit the new string I tune it to pitch. Then I gently grip the string between my index finger and thumb at about the 12th fret and pull up about 2.5 cm. Then I let it snap back against the fretboard. I do this 3 or 4 times and retune. Then I repeat this routine until the tuning stabilizes...maybe 3 repetitions of snap/tune.

3. Only after a string is pretty stable do I change the next string.

4. Once all are changed I play for 5 or 6 minutes, usually high energy strumming of some sort. Then I retune all the strings as needed and repeat the play/retune until the string tuning stabilizes.

I can generally get a guitar restrung and in tune (stable) within 15 or 20 minutes. A guitar with quality tuners (i.e. my Guild or my Tele) will stay in tune (for me) for weeks with only very minor adjustments after changing the strings this way.

[23meg]

I just noticed that you are using .008"s, which may have more of a problem with stretch than more normal gauges, I dunno.

Just to be safe, I didn't stretch them this time. They seem to be fairly stable after a day.

1. Change the strings one at a time. I like to alternate, every other string, but I don't have a good reason for that. I'll usually go high-e, g, a, b, d, low-e.

I take them all off, to clean the fingerboard and around the bridge properly. My "Italian guitar" (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2115832&postcount=754) stays in tune a short time after minimal streching and some hard playing, but my Tele drifts a lot for a while. Actually, it drifts a bit afterwards as well. The Italian guitar has no intonation adjustment, quite old tuners that are giving in, and yet is more stable. May it have to do with the fact that the strings go through the body in the Tele, and thus flex more due to temperature change?

Anyway, wish me luck; I'm playing live with .008s for the first time. I hope I don't lose one.

[Patrick-Ruff]

I'm pretty sure I have my picking down now, how I hold my fingers may be the only weird thing. I tend to keep my pinkey on the body as my 2nd and 3rd fingers are extended out, but my picking seems a lot better.

I guess I'm getting too deep into the style here, I think I finally have it though, on that will actually work for me. I can't even count how many people I see with inefficient ways of picking and all that, so hopefully I wont have to alter it again.

[neck-rod]

Hello Everybody,

I have been playing for 22 years. Self-taught, so periods of stagnation, you know...anyway, I have a 1984 Gison Sonex 180 and a 1984 Cort Tele copy (my first guitar). They are not great axes but get the job done. The Sonex has a good range of tone from the pickup selections (muddy to spangly-trebly) - I recently got it for $100.00 US so what the heck. I still like my old Ibanez CS9 Stereo Chorus a lot.

Yeah, those guys who buy a guitar to learn pop songs...I mean, I used to learn Police songs I liked, but they had a few chords and whatnot in there. Anyway what's up.

[Bezmotivnik]

Anyway what's up.
The usual, waiting for a guitar delivery. :rolleyes:

[Bezmotivnik]

It arrived. From my e-mail to Mark:

...and UPS showed up with the flamed palletwood guitar from MF.

I am astonished: They just threw the bare axe in a box with some of
that rolled brown paper. No foam-skin protective caul, plastic bag, no
double-box, NOTHIN'!

I get someone's shipping receipt from a mandolin buy in Virginia.

They forgot the parts bag, so the unique matching smoked-chrome vibrato
handle and the multiple wrenches are missing.

The axe has never been set up, which is just bizarre. The vibrato and
bridge are just installed, but not adjusted. The strings lie flat on
the fingerboard. It will take a <<LOT>> of work to get that sorted out
-- if I can get them to find the proper handle.

The switch is 3-position, which is not spec for this model.

Weight is a hair over 7#, (MINUS THE VIBRATO ARM!) which is about as
light as you're gonna get, I suppose...

Yet -- incredibly! -- the axe is otherwise perfect, except for a small
spot where the packing paper rubbed a small dull spot on the finish
inside the belly-cut. It's slam-fretted, but everything is these days.

Very strange catch, huh?

I got it somewhat set up and it plays beautifully. It's a remarkably odd-looking axe, just like the picture (http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/8/6/8/269868.jpg).

Curiously, the Fender site specs (http://fender.com/products/view_specs.php?full_partno=0263070&) do not match their own diagrams (http://fender.com/support/diagrams/pdf_temp1/other/0263070A/SD0263070APg4.pdf) for the model in terms of the pickup switching. :rolleyes:

[Bezmotivnik]

I just looked and, incredibly, this thread is approaching 20,000 views!

Wow...there must be some full-time lurkers...

[Patrick-Ruff]

lol, yeah. I think I've posed on the past 70 pages. er, 60 I think. and you have posted on almost all of them ;).

[Bezmotivnik]

Dang! I'm not going to be playing for a day or two, looks like...I was doing laundry tonight and I picked up some socks off the floor near the washing machine and there was a bee in them, which stung me hideously deep right under the ball of my left index fingertip. YOW!

Man, that hurts... I got most of the stinger out and dosed the finger with cortisone, but it looks like it's going to be swollen and out of action for a couple of days.

Seems like every time I get a new axe I mess up my left hand somehow...:-k

[matthew]

Dang! I'm not going to be playing for a day or two, looks like...I was doing laundry tonight and I picked up some socks off the floor near the washing machine and there was a bee in them, which stung me hideously deep right under the ball of my left index fingertip. YOW!

Man, that hurts... I got most of the stinger out and dosed the finger with cortisone, but it looks like it's going to be swollen and out of action for a couple of days.

Seems like every time I get a new axe I mess up my left hand somehow...:-kThat is freakishly odd. I've had bees in my kitchen in the summer when the windows are open, but never in my laundry. I hope it heals quickly so you can get that new guitar broken in. :)

[Bezmotivnik]

That is freakishly odd. I've had bees in my kitchen in the summer when the windows are open, but never in my laundry.
This is an extremely strange situation that is causing the State of California much concern. Bees are behaving strangely all over the state and are having major die-offs and nobody knows why. There's a hive inside one of my exterior walls, and when an episode of this sickness comes through, the dying bees crawl out through a crack around a wall outlet into the interior of the utility room where they eventually die. There are drifts of dead bees all over the place in there. :confused:
I hope it heals quickly so you can get that new guitar broken in. :)
It's supposed to go to Mark for the photography before I "mess it up," so I dunno about that anyway. I don't know if he'll want to do it without the vibrato handle.

Getting that very specialized part may be a big issue, as it's a special finish on a discontinued instrument. I hope the apes at MF can find one.

[23meg]

Anyway, wish me luck; I'm playing live with .008s for the first time. I hope I don't lose one.

I didn't lose one. But the nut width, since it's perhaps made for .009s and above, was too much for the .008s and I found strings three and four drifted from the nut hollows, floating above the nut surface many times after some strong bends, out of control, clashing with adjacent strings. The good thing is, it didn't sound too bad... I like the kind of odd "twang" caused by picking irregularities, and general mechanical noise so no surprise this didn't sound too out of place. But needless to say, it's not possible to play that way for extended periods.

Does anyone have experience with getting a nut replaced? Is it regular procedure? Are they produced as replacements by guitar manufacturers, or third party items (like Jim Dunlop produces replacement frets etc.), or are they made by luthiers? Probably all apply, but would you recommend a specific choice? The one on my Tele seems to have been hollowed a bit due to use as well, and I'll probably use just .008s from now on, so a change is in order.

[Bezmotivnik]

Most nuts (every one I've ever seen) are so poorly done from the factory -- cut way too high -- that you can typically recut them to a different gauge and still have plenty of room left before the resulting string height is anywhere near too low, thus requiring replacement...or even low enough, really.

I have to get serious about finding some real files for this job instead of faking it all the time. I have a few instruments with such absolutely horrible factory nut work that they are impossible to play in tune and require serious recutting. The most recent Toronado has .044" clearance, which is just incredible to me, the worst I've ever seen...but it's a pretty easy fix with the right tools.

[Bezmotivnik]

OK, everyone gets a free laugh on me:

http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/8/7/7/448877.jpg

For $149.99 (MSRP $649.99) on one-day sale, I couldn't pass it up. Despite the plated brass bridge/tailpiece monstrosity, it has very nice pickups, Grover machines, etc. They are supposedly very good, well-built instruments with excellent print and user reviews, but that whole gamble that Michael Kelly Guitars and Traben Basses took on these goofy third-party SonicArts bridges just hasn't translated to huge market share.

Mark will probably enjoy another weird photo subject. ;)

[GuitarHero]

My hands gettin sore from playing guitar, I hate when that happens. I always take a day or two off to ensure i dont inflict any permanent damage.... weak

[Bezmotivnik]

My hands gettin sore from playing guitar, I hate when that happens. I always take a day or two off to ensure i dont inflict any permanent damage.... weak

When it starts to hurt, stop.

I was fairly surprised to learn that young people could also really mess up their hands with tendinitis. I guess I started early enough (age ten, as I recall) that I built up strength while I was still developing, and by the time I was gigging and touring full-time, I could perform for hours every night with no pain. As I've gotten older, I've have to be very careful not to mess my hands up. It takes years to heal...if ever. :(

[Patrick-Ruff]

yikes, arthritis runs in my family . . .


anyways, I've been distinctly noticing the arogance among lead guitar players at my school, it's really irritating. 2 of them are just complete dicks to me, probably becuase I started 6 months ago and I can play almost as well as them. I think it's kind of ridiculous, but among everyone that takes interest in something that can give popularity, there must be a sess pool of arrogance . . . me, I just learned guitar to make music, and distract my self from depression.

the funny thing is, a kid today on my bus was playing and he wouldn't let me play at all because apparently I don't have 'the skills' and he on the other hadn . . . was just playing chords . . .

[jarvis13]

Are bass players welcome?

I got a 4-string Musicman Stringray. Best damn bass ever.

Got an Epiphone Nighthawk I mess with sometimes when I feel like some blues git on a 6 string.

[Patrick-Ruff]

yes they are, there have been atleast 50 of t hem in teh past of this thread.

[Bezmotivnik]

I've been distinctly noticing the arogance among lead guitar players at my school, it's really irritating. 2 of them are just complete dicks to me...
Forgive me for spending the last five minutes chuckling over this.

There're so many things I could say, but I don't even know where to start [there go another five minutes literally laughing out loud].

I could write a book about this. Normal humans grow out of this behavior by the time they're out of their teens. Most musicians of this inclination do not. Ever.

Use this experience to incrementally prepare you for dealing with singers (http://rockandrollconfidential.com/hall/hall_detail.php?dd_keyid=803). :rolleyes:

When these clowns start to get you down, picture them in rockandrollconfidential.com's "hall" (assuming they're not actually there already). They'll wonder what you're giggling at and shrivel before your very eyes and slink away.

Start anyplace and work in either direction (http://rockandrollconfidential.com/hall/hall_detail.php?dd_keyid=625); two hours of hilarious "don't" education.

When you realize ego-musicians are put on earth to laugh at, you'll feel better.

[Patrick-Ruff]

lol nice. I'm really modest about playing lead and all that. I do feel this natural want to get attention feeling that I dismiss, but it's mostly the sound I'm making that gets to me. when I hit those high notes in a solo, that gets me EVERY time. or a really nice lower solo, kind of like in the song And I Love Her by The Beatles.

but I think it's kind of ridiculous, I ask for advice from some of them and I get nothing but critisizm. I know ONE guitarist (who is a good friend of mine) who isn't a bitch about it. that's basically it.


ps. new layout on the forums is pretty cool ;).

[23meg]

picture them in rockandrollconfidential.com's "hall" (assuming they're not actually there already)

Thanks for sharing the laugh; the part in parenthesis gave me a good one.

[Patrick-Ruff]

hmm, been a bit silent in here for a while.

[Bezmotivnik]

hmm, been a bit silent in here for a while.

We're all laughed-out after looking at rockandrollconfidential.com's "hall."

I should imagine everyone's busy or distracted. I'm trying to get my garden in, but it's too hot to work (in Matthew's old stompin' grounds in Arizona, it's nearly 100°F, reportedly higher in some places), there was an incredible fire near here (http://www.news10.net/display_story.aspx?storyid=25551) on my favorite bike trail, my cat very nearly died choking on a hairball (exactly like when W almost died choking on that notorious pretzel) and I barely saved her by shaking her unconscious body by the back legs and getting her breathing again, the smoke from the fire made Mark sick (http://photoweborama.com/gallery/sacfire) so he hasn't been able to photograph the new FAT HH Showmaster (which after some setup is just amazing, capable of the lowest action of any axe I've ever owned, I think)...

PLUS...I've been mainly playing my bronze, racing striped Toronado, which nobody but me even wants to think about. ;)

[Bezmotivnik]

Depending on how you feel about Epiphones and whether the MSRP is artificially inflated on this offer (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Epiphone-Limited-Edition-Wildcat-?sku=519384), it looks like it could be a pretty long deal for someone. :-k

[Patrick-Ruff]

not really my style.

yeah, arizona is usually known for the whiked fires. I remember hearing (and suffering from the smoke ALL the way in california) about it many times. hopefully it doesn't get as bad as it did last year (if it hasn't already.)

[Bezmotivnik]

Hey, has anyone tried that GuitarVision instructional thing (http://musiciansfriend.guitarvision.com/)?

[solfatara]

hey wonders of the earth .if anyone interested in talkin about music , guitars, umm SIDE PROJECTSZ! am in neoclassical stuff ,um thrash like annihilator , vai ,satiani etc........ am a lead guitarist well still trying rn't we all:) <underoath_1@hotmail.com>

[Patrick-Ruff]

satriani and vai aren't thrash . . .

anyways, you want to talk you post on here, otherwise don't count on getting much attention. not to be rude or anything.

@bezmotivnik I've tried the trial, looks hela awesome :).

[Bezmotivnik]

@bezmotivnik I've tried the trial, looks hela awesome :).
Where are the "free" thirty riffs and ten scales things? I downloaded the trial package and didn't see them anywhere.

[Patrick-Ruff]

sorry man, couldn't find them.

[23meg]

Today I read an excerpt from a poem called "The Man With The Blue Guitar", by Wallace Stevens:

They said, "You have a blue guitar,
You do not play things as they are
The man replied, "Things as they are
Are changed upon the blue guitar."

I just had to post it to this thread.

I have to confess, my first electric guitar was a blue Washburn; I sold it.

[Bezmotivnik]

I have to confess, my first electric guitar was a blue Washburn; I sold it.
The poem's a reference to Picasso, I'm pretty sure.

I was noting some blue guitar sales on MF today. If a boy likes blue axes, he can sure get 'em cheap. Green, too.

I have two that I can think of offhand, including the frightening Jet-Star.

No greens, though. A guy's gotta draw the line somewhere. :-k

[Bezmotivnik]

Hey, that "Tribal Sun" (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2301362#post2301362) arrived yesterday.

It looks about ten times better than that ugly picture and much to my surprise is a great deal nicer guitar than I expected. As I had anticipated, all that metal between the saddles and the body had an effect on the tone, but not prohibitively so. Great deal for that price!

[Patrick-Ruff]

right on

[slayerboy]

I'm a tad bit late to the convo here, but I used to play guitar, and still own my first guitar and small amp. I miss playing, but my hands cramp up so bad after playing for 2 minutes that I can't do anything with the guitar anymore. I know I have some form of carpel tunnel, but it's weird because typing really doesn't bother me.

Anyone with Carpel Tunnel play guitar? how do you handle it?

Music has been a big part of my life, heck it's saved my life. I really feel like the music business is in a horrible state right now, and I'm actually kinda glad my parents talked me out of going to college for music, even if it led me on a 10 year journey to trying to figure out what I could do in life. And of course I'm still on that journey, but I would love to get more involved with music.

:guitar:

[X86]

slayerboy you are not a tad bit late.
I set my guitar down for 2 years then I picked back up it sat in the corner of my room and roted but I think it helped the sound thies guy's are alright I couldn't believe my eye when I seen this part of the forum I knew I belonged with Ubuntu I used many other linux distros but Ubuntu worked out for me

[Bezmotivnik]

Anyone with Carpel Tunnel play guitar? how do you handle it?


I have other RSIs related to playing bass.

At present, I'm reading The Mindbody Prescription, by Dr. John Sarno of NYU Med School.

He has some interesting (and controversial) things to say about RSI pain being largely psychosomatic. I haven't decided what to think of it yet. You might see if your library has it and check it out to see if you think it applies to you.

Good luck!

[Bezmotivnik]

Speaking of blue guitars (http://www.edromanguitars.com/featured/blue.htm)...

Man...there are some staggeringly ugly axes in there!

Did someone already post this here? I can't remember. I found it by accident last night, but it seems vaguely familiar... :-k

[Bezmotivnik]

I really feel like the music business is in a horrible state right now...
The music business is always in a horrible state and faithful to its shady criminal origins. Only the details change. :(

Once again, I want to recommend Jacob Slichter's So You Wanna Be a Rock & Roll Star:

http://i.biblio.com/m/08/0767914708.jpg

...to any musician or pop music consumer. It's available at most public libraries (you do have a library card, don't you?). Read this book and you will know far more about the music biz than any of the bonehead musician rockstar wannabees you're likely to encounter. It may make you give up playing or at least dash all your fantasies, but it's the truest source I've ever read on the subject and completely consistent with my own "insider" experience.

[23meg]

You got me curious; I'll look for it.

My band just got an offer for a compilation album from an apparently nice independent label, offering a small share of sales, zero prepayment and very restrictive conditions in return of ALL rights to one song of ours, without a time limit. Now we're pondering what to do, consulting lawyers, etc.

The interesting part is how we got contacted: through MySpace.

[Bezmotivnik]

My band just got an offer for a compilation album from an apparently nice independent label, offering a small share of sales, zero prepayment and very restrictive conditions in return of ALL rights to one song of ours, without a time limit. Now we're pondering what to do, consulting lawyers, etc.

I'd have to see the details, but just from what you say I'd pass in a heartbeat. Instantly.

Any money a band makes for a long while typically comes from "mechanical royalties" from broadcasting, and that goes to whoever has the songwriting and publishing. Frequently bands share these rights so that everyone gets something, and frequently they (conditionally) sell these rights under various arrangements for money up front. Any money from sales is typically eaten up in the band's "recoupable debt" to the label to cover any advances and any real or imaginary expenses connected with the record, which magically expand to eat up the band's share of sales literally into the second platinum album.

If you sign away your song rights up front -- and for no money! -- you won't even see the $10 or $15 the record companies gave to the legendary naive performers of yesteryear when the companies bought the rights to their songs and performances forever.

Friends of mine have in the past gone for indy compilation deals like the one you describe, had their songs chart in Europe, and never saw a penny for it. In addition, their material was covered by other bands and only the record company who now owned the song made money. They were screwed, and all perfectly legally.

The interesting part is how we got contacted: through MySpace.

That's not surprising to me. Such sites put potentially valuable material by naive artists out to be stripmined by record companies. They're also constantly spamming CraigsList and other musician venues.

These deals are win-win for the companies and lose-lose for the bands.

[dbbolton]

i got a similar offer once but rejected. moon something records from canada. smelled fishy to me.

[Bezmotivnik]

i got a similar offer once but rejected. moon something records from canada. smelled fishy to me.
These guys are everywhere. Seriously.

They are not out to sell CDs, but to gain comprehensive rights to potentially valuable material virtually for free. Think about it: They own the performance, recording, songwriting and publishing on the best songs maybe twenty bands have produced for which they can cheaply turn out a few hundred promo CDs. They're not out to sell CDs to the public, but to up-sell songs within the industry or get airplay, for which the band gets nothing and the label gets everything. People can theoretically buy the CDs, but they're not seriously distributed except through the label itself, usually.

Bands are flattered and excited and suspend their critical faculties.

Pure ripoff. To make matters worse, if the band ever gets any legitimate interest from a real label, they've already lost the rights to their own best material, which technically they can't even perform without paying royalties to the guy who first ripped them off, and this "signing" will complicate any future contracts with anyone real.

[-X

[raublekick]

Speaking of blue guitars (http://www.edromanguitars.com/featured/blue.htm)...

Man...there are some staggeringly ugly axes in there!

Did someone already post this here? I can't remember. I found it by accident last night, but it seems vaguely familiar... :-k

Lot's of "bowling ball" guitars in there!



I got a Squire '51 today at the new local Guitar Center. I really had my heart set on the blonde one, but all the had were black and sunburst. I took the black, and it looks nice enough, just a bit plain.

I wasn't sure how much I would like this guitar, but for $100 it packs a punch. The only really obvious flaw is that the frets are a little rough on the edge of the neck. Other than that it has good tuners, a great feeling neck, it's easy to bend notes, and it sounds pretty hot.

[Bezmotivnik]

I got a Squire '51 today at the new local Guitar Center. .
People are absolutely mad for these!

There are tons of mod sites (http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=squier+51+mods&ei=UTF-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&fr=moz2) for them, and people put hundreds of bucks into them, which is pretty crazy, but that's sort of the point..."Pimp My '51."

Through a combination of deals and bonuses, Overstock.Com had black ones for a single day for something like $48, shipped, last December. I missed out on that.

There's a lot of variation between them. Apparently different contractors have made them for FMIC.

Sharp frets can be due to a number of things, including climatic variation. They sometimes go away on their own and sometimes require a bit of help, depending on where the sharpness is.

Good luck with yours!

[NewOldTimer]

Hey guys, been hiding out lately playing with the latest...

Greg Bennett design Samick Avanti AV6 Ltd, fell in love with action but most of all the Spalted Maple carved/arched body.

Hate to say it, but got rid of my Bass, too much going back and forth with the Guitar and decided to put forth more effort towards the 6-stringer.I'm trying to learn more about chords and their progressions, I do a little lyric writing and it will be nice to actually do it to some strumming at least. I did have a Fender Squire but gave it to a friend to play around with{he wants to learn as well}

Anyways, missed the conversations, keep on rockin

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[Patrick-Ruff]

I played my lil bro's friend's guitar . . . it's called a euro (basically it looks like a no-name squeir) pretty fun.

[bob dylan]

hi, i'm here to chat!!!

actually, i'm in the process of upgrading to ubuntu 6.10 right now on my PC (this is my laptop i'm typing on right now)... WISH ME LUCK!!! WHOOOOO YEA!!!

anywayz, here's my two-cents:

i play guitar not just because music sounds great, but it's a way to revolutionize-characterize-pasteurize people who think with only one train of thought....like windows users...hahahaha

which i have been for so long because of coarse, i was a loner/poser/faker. i believed that i could fight the man with my music and that would be enough... BUT! it's no use just fighting from one direction. this is the age of information, lets fight the man from our side!!!!

so i decide, to do away with my one-sided computer perspective and fight for what i believe in. (:( and yes it's gonna suck learning a brand-new OS all over again... but nobody said that revolutions were easy)

so here i am... getting rid of all traces of microsoft (the man)... and i'm shoving a UBUNTU DISTRO RIGHT IN THE WAY!!!!

*** reader's thoughts... enough already you burned-out-revolutionized-computer-hippy... this has been going on forever!! ***

sorry, i just thought that i'd let my mind flow... hahahaha!!!

ps: the doors would have used ubuntu

[raublekick]

People are absolutely mad for these!

There are tons of mod sites (http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=squier+51+mods&ei=UTF-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&fr=moz2) for them, and people put hundreds of bucks into them, which is pretty crazy, but that's sort of the point..."Pimp My '51."

Through a combination of deals and bonuses, Overstock.Com had black ones for a single day for something like $48, shipped, last December. I missed out on that.

There's a lot of variation between them. Apparently different contractors have made them for FMIC.

Sharp frets can be due to a number of things, including climatic variation. They sometimes go away on their own and sometimes require a bit of help, depending on where the sharpness is.

Good luck with yours!


yeah i've been reading up on them quite a bit and basically just decided that if i come across one for $100, i'll buy it, and that happened today. and to think, i almost didn't take my sister to guitar center because i was tired after work...

the sharp frets aren't really bothering me too much, but if they don't go away in a week or so i will just get some fine sand paper and lightly sand them down a bit.

i dunno if i really want to mod mine at all. just playing it tonight made me really like it as is. it could probably use better pickups, but i'm not really into spending the guitars worth on pickups, especially since i don't play in a band or anything right now. i do kinda want to get a pearl pick guard just to spruce it up a little bit.

[Patrick-Ruff]

hi, i'm here to chat!!!

actually, i'm in the process of upgrading to ubuntu 6.10 right now on my PC (this is my laptop i'm typing on right now)... WISH ME LUCK!!! WHOOOOO YEA!!!

anywayz, here's my two-cents:

i play guitar not just because music sounds great, but it's a way to revolutionize-characterize-pasteurize people who think with only one train of thought....like windows users...hahahaha

which i have been for so long because of coarse, i was a loner/poser/faker. i believed that i could fight the man with my music and that would be enough... BUT! it's no use just fighting from one direction. this is the age of information, lets fight the man from our side!!!!

so i decide, to do away with my one-sided computer perspective and fight for what i believe in. (:( and yes it's gonna suck learning a brand-new OS all over again... but nobody said that revolutions were easy)

so here i am... getting rid of all traces of microsoft (the man)... and i'm shoving a UBUNTU DISTRO RIGHT IN THE WAY!!!!

*** reader's thoughts... enough already you burned-out-revolutionized-computer-hippy... this has been going on forever!! ***

sorry, i just thought that i'd let my mind flow... hahahaha!!!

ps: the doors would have used ubuntu



60's bands don't give a **** about the stupid conflict between open source and all their philosophies and proprietary.

*yawns* not interesting . . . your point on the one train of thought for windows users is completely inaccurate.

good night.

[Bezmotivnik]

fell in love...most of all the Spalted Maple carved/arched body.

Do you know what spalted wood is? It's rotten deadfall. Literally. It's from an old dead, stinky tree lying on the forest floor full of mildew, bugs and rot. They cut out the crumbly parts that are too decayed and apparently stabilize the rest with resin of some sort. The dark figuring is actually mildew stain penetrating the wood.

Eeew!

Hate to say it, but got rid of my Bass...

NOOOO!!!

Oh, how could you !?! :cry:

No matter what, I still think of myself as a bassist.
too much going back and forth with the Guitar and decided to put forth more effort towards the 6-stringer.I'm trying to learn more about chords and their progressions, I do a little lyric writing and it will be nice to actually do it to some strumming at least.
Well, yes, you're absolutely right about that. Chords are everything to a songwriter, and songwriting is everything to music. A guy was talking to me about "three chord rock," and I said, "Yes, but all my three-chord songs have about ten to sixteen chords."

This is why real songwriters almost always play piano and why -- ultimately -- I regret being a guitarist/bassist/drummer instead of a keyboardist. I just can't get enough fingers going all at once. :frown:

If, as a guitarist, you want to get a real idea of how chords work in a song, check out the orchestral-guitar arrangements of corny old standards at The GuitarGuy (http://www.theguitarguy.com/) site. Just find some old song that you recognize and try to play his chord arrangement of it (the individual chord tabs are on a site page there). Yow.

[Bezmotivnik]

Hey, whatever happened to Mathew? :confused:

[NewOldTimer]

Hey Bezmotivnik, Yeah I know what spalted is, I've been a woodcrafter for years, It's not as bad as you made it sound. Yes it was "formally mold" But I know {from what I gather about your posts} that you "know" during the processing steps, this mold is no longer "active" and with todays technology in heat treating and staining/sealing there is no possibility of it coming back. On the same line there is not enough to hamper the sound/tonal qualities, it's not like the piece used is totally rotten. If you have a love of wood like I do, then you would see the beauty in the figure of the wood. I play strictly for enjoyment and a sweet looking axe is a must as one of my requirements. My playing level along with my ear capabilities couldn't tell you the difference in any type of material used in the body of any instrument. Yeah I'm just rambling but how else are you gonna get to know me or my thinking process.

I knew that parting with the bass wasn't gonna make you smile, me either but I've been out of work since my heart attack/by-pass, and cash flows been getting low, so after thinking it over long and hard, I did what I thought was best, Besides I can still practice my walking lines but just not the finger stretching that comes from the spacing of a bass. I too will always consider myself a bassist at heart as that is where my love for playing started.

[matthew]

Hey, whatever happened to Mathew? :confused:I'm around, I've just been really busy lately. I'm keeping up with reading this thread, though. :)

I played my Tele this weekend with some friends--man, I still love that guitar!

[Bezmotivnik]

Yes it was "formally mold" But I know {from what I gather about your posts} that you "know" during the processing steps, this mold is no longer "active" and with todays technology in heat treating and staining/sealing there is no possibility of it coming back.
Sure, I know that, it's just the fact that's stinky old mold & mildew sortta impairs the perceived aesthetic glory of the whole thing. ;) "Dude, that's what's in the dorm shower!" It's kinda funny when people first find it out.

Ultimately, mildew or whatever, it's just decorative laminate of no positive acoustic consequence anyway. [shrug] I'm something of a purist about plain tonewood bodies, but in spite of that have acquired a couple of fancy-topped axes recently.

Yeah, they're certainly interesting to look at. That flame-ash Showmaster has a lot of grain action going on as the light moves across it. I can picture some stoner kid staring at it for three hours.

Here's some interesting "post-manufacture" spalting (http://photoweborama.com/guitars/albums/omen6/DSCF0101.jpg). It's a Schecter Omen that was flooded. Mark gave some guy $40 for it and restored it to about 90% of its former glory through nothing but hard work. Strangely, the mildew, though traveling clear through the grain of the wood, did not appear to harm anything. :confused:

On the same line there is not enough to hamper the sound/tonal qualities, it's not like the piece used is totally rotten.
They apparently pick out a lot of punkwood from the deadfall and the salvage process is pretty labor-intensive and increasingly technical. It appears that a lot of these spalted laminates have colored epoxy back-filling done in the cracks, which forms some part of the decorative process.
(http://www.michaelkellyguitars.com/images/glam/lrg_val_lim_spalt.jpg)
I knew that parting with the bass wasn't gonna make you smile, me either but I've been out of work since my heart attack/by-pass, and cash flows been getting low, so after thinking it over long and hard, I did what I thought was best, Besides I can still practice my walking lines but just not the finger stretching that comes from the spacing of a bass. I too will always consider myself a bassist at heart as that is where my love for playing started.
Well, good luck on all that.

[Bezmotivnik]

I'm around, I've just been really busy lately. I'm keeping up with reading this thread, though. :)
OK, just checking!

I played my Tele this weekend with some friends--man, I still love that guitar!
Yeah...at the end of the day, I'm pretty much a Telecaster kind of guy myself.

[Bezmotivnik]

yeah i've been reading up on them quite a bit and basically just decided that if i come across one for $100, i'll buy it, and that happened today. and to think, i almost didn't take my sister to guitar center because i was tired after work...
When you retire, you can not work and hang out at Guitar Center as much as you want.

See? Age & disability have some advantages.

the sharp frets aren't really bothering me too much, but if they don't go away in a week or so i will just get some fine sand paper and lightly sand them down a bit.
Makes perfect sense.

That Tribal Sun I just got had viciously sharp fret ends that vanished completely in a couple of days.

i dunno if i really want to mod mine at all. just playing it tonight made me really like it as is. it could probably use better pickups, but i'm not really into spending the guitars worth on pickups, especially since i don't play in a band or anything right now. i do kinda want to get a pearl pick guard just to spruce it up a little bit.
Yeah, as a matter of principle, I never modify instruments. The most I've ever done is swap pickguards, which is reversible and no big deal. I'm not big on MOTO, but it looks reasonably OK on black.

[Patrick-Ruff]

I've heard that even swapping pickguards isn't the kind of thing you want to do. my friend has a les paul custom, (epiphone) he took off the pick guard and couldn't get it back on without hearing a buzzing sound. so now he has no pick guard.


I've been distinctly working on my picking hand even more now. I'm not sure about my hand positioning (the way I position my hand is pretty uncomfortable when I'm playing on strat-related guitars because the adjustors are /right/ under the strings where my pinky usually goes. it's a bit weird, when I play it tends to mess with the volume button so I ended up mostly just resting my palm on the bridge (without muting it) and played without my pinkey's holding me down most of the time.

I would really appreciate it if someone could give me a good example of what a good proper right-hand position would be.

I'm getting a les paul standard so I don't really mind about that as the buttons are further out on the body.

[Patrick-Ruff]

on another note . . . I'm going to look for a new forum avatar today . . .

[Bezmotivnik]

I've heard that even swapping pickguards isn't the kind of thing you want to do. my friend has a les paul custom, (epiphone) he took off the pick guard and couldn't get it back on without hearing a buzzing sound. so now he has no pick guard.
If you don't know what you're doing (and maybe less than 1% do), you shouldn't touch anything you can't afford to wreck. I am amazed at how incredibly few people know how to simply remove and replace a screw in a guitar without stripping out the wood. It's a very delicate operation, with a right way and a wrong way.

All that said, I'm not sure how he managed this feat. Sounds crazy to me.:-k

I don't work on guitars any more than I absolutely have to in order to rectify factory flaws and do good setup. I regard it as bad business to get involved with something that needs serious work or that I can't accept on its own terms.

I've been watching guitar modders for forty years and usually they're nothing but compulsive scab-pickers who don't know when to leave well enough alone. That's about the kindest thing I can say about them. :rolleyes:

I've been distinctly working on my picking hand even more now. I'm not sure about my hand positioning (the way I position my hand is pretty uncomfortable when I'm playing on strat-related guitars because the adjustors are /right/ under the strings where my pinky usually goes. it's a bit weird, when I play it tends to mess with the volume button so I ended up mostly just resting my palm on the bridge (without muting it) and played without my pinkey's holding me down most of the time.
I explained this specific problem to you a hundred or so messages back: Stratocasters were designed in '54 when the "correct" right hand doctrine was that you picked up near the neck pickup and the right hand never touched the instrument when playing.

Yeah, I hate playing Stratocasters too for the same reason, control ergonomics. People have been fighting them ever since Clapton dragged the Stratocaster back from the brink of death in the '60s (which is an interesting story in itself). You wouldn't believe some of the weird workarounds people have devised, like taping coins to the pickguard to block the pickup switch from being bumped out of position, etc., etc.

I would really appreciate it if someone could give me a good example of what a good proper right-hand position would be.

Whatever works for you. This isn't classical guitar: You watch fifty good players playing and you'll probably see at least sixty different right-hand styles. I play with many different right-hand styles, including with my hand closed and using the backs of my fingernails, which gives a very interesting sound.

If it doesn't feel right, change it. This is especially true if you have orthopedic problems.

I'm getting a les paul standard so I don't really mind about that as the buttons are further out on the body.
I've always been more comfortable with the typical Gibson control layout, though I simply can't handle Les Paul weight and typical fat neck profiles. I think you have longer fingers than I do, so it shouldn't be an issue for you.

[Bezmotivnik]

on another note . . . I'm going to look for a new forum avatar today . . .
That's OK, take your time -- I have avatars turned off anyway. ;)

[NewOldTimer]

Sure, I know that, it's just the fact that's stinky old mold & mildew sortta impairs the perceived aesthetic glory of the whole thing. ;) "Dude, that's what's in the dorm shower!" It's kinda funny when people first find it out.

Ultimately, mildew or whatever, it's just decorative laminate of no positive acoustic consequence anyway. [shrug] I'm something of a purist about plain tonewood bodies, but in spite of that have acquired a couple of fancy-topped axes recently.

Yeah, they're certainly interesting to look at. That flame-ash Showmaster has a lot of grain action going on as the light moves across it. I can picture some stoner kid staring at it for three hours.

Here's some interesting "post-manufacture" spalting (http://photoweborama.com/guitars/albums/omen6/DSCF0101.jpg). It's a Schecter Omen that was flooded. Mark gave some guy $40 for it and restored it to about 90% of its former glory through nothing but hard work. Strangely, the mildew, though traveling clear through the grain of the wood, did not appear to harm anything. :confused:


They apparently pick out a lot of punkwood from the deadfall and the salvage process is pretty labor-intensive and increasingly technical. It appears that a lot of these spalted laminates have colored epoxy back-filling done in the cracks, which forms some part of the decorative process.
(http://www.michaelkellyguitars.com/images/glam/lrg_val_lim_spalt.jpg)

Well, good luck on all that.


Sure will be glad when/if I ever get as knowledgeable as you seem to be about everything guitar/music wise. Maybe if I start listening to more blues?

[matthew]

Sure will be glad when/if I ever get as knowledgeable as you seem to be about everything guitar/music wise. Maybe if I start listening to more blues?That couldn't hurt... :)

[Patrick-Ruff]

I've been told I have pretty long fingers. I play an acoustic with a /very/ fat neck. probably much fatter then a les paul. so I doubt I'll have any issues there :).

[NewOldTimer]

That couldn't hurt... :)


No thanks, might become depressing to those around me.:(

[Freakazilla]

I love the guitar anyone play classical guitar I took a few lessons but I'm not as hardcore at it anymore I think this forum and Ubuntu is great what is some good program's for example I installed Kguitar and Songwrite but is their any more thanks:guitar:

[Patrick-Ruff]

does /anyone/ know how satriani does that whiked fast picking in this song?


http://youtube.com/watch?v=MjNAeELQ_Z8


edit: ps, anyone know of any good avatar sites? ;).

[Patrick-Ruff]

*whistles*

[Bezmotivnik]

No, but I found this site for a bunch of free guitar & bass lessons: FenderPlayersClub.Com (http://www.fenderplayersclub.com/?src=MFDF0001)

[Patrick-Ruff]

:O no post in 3 days . . . everyone still alive?


any thoughts on this (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Marshall-MG100DFX-Combo-?sku=483190) amp?

[dbbolton]

all the amps of that series that i've played have sounded awful. i wouldn't buy a marshall unless it were an all tube head.

[Patrick-Ruff]

what kind of guitar do you play with? and what style?

[dbbolton]

i play an ibanez artist series- it's like a les paul double cut. i don't really have a style, per se. rock, blues, jazz, indie, maybe even a little metal now and then.

but, you made a good point that i didn't really consider- maybe the solid state marshall amps just aren't the sound i'm looking for. i think they just sound kinda cheap. i like a much warmer sound.

[Bezmotivnik]

:O no post in 3 days . . . everyone still alive?
Much to the chagrin of many, no doubt, I still am.
any thoughts on this (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Marshall-MG100DFX-Combo-?sku=483190) amp?
Not a big fan of the MG Series Marshalls, especially at that poor of a discount, and am wary of inexpensive amps with complex digital electronics in general. With long warranty coverage, I'd be less shaky on it, but I've seen a lot of these types of amps croak.

In general, I don't hate solid-state at all, and don't even hate digital effects. I just feel simpler amps are more reliable and especially more appropriate for student guitarists.

I have a ton of amps (probably not far from the literal truth), but the amp that gets about 90% of the use around here is a box-stock Valve Junior. Most of the rest goes to an early Roland Cube. I haven't had my "good" amps even on in years.

[Patrick-Ruff]

I'm mostly buying for something I will be content with. with the digital effects to be able to do what I want/may want, and flexibility and stability in general.

I thought that amp had a 5 year warrentee?


oh well, any suggestions on a good combo amp that would suit my needs? (an amp that will last and allow me to do a wide range of things . . . )

[Bezmotivnik]

I thought that amp had a 5 year warrentee?
If it does, I wouldn't worry, but I'd:

1: Make sure, and check the fine print.

2: Check to see what warranty repair actually amounts to in your area in terms of turn-around time and customer satisfaction. Local warranty repair is typically characterized by extremely long delays and poor work, as it is less profitable for the shops than their walk-in trade and they give it the lowest priority in every way. Some authorized warranty shops are OK, most aren't. Check with local musicians. It's also possible that there is no local warranty repair and you have to send it off to God-knows-where at your expense. LOUD has recently pulled the plug on all their local repair for Ampeg, Mackie, Crate, etc., for example.

These are points to check out when shopping for any complex and therefore service-prone amp you can't service yourself.

[truthfatal]

Hey there :)

I'm not a Guitar player (yet) or even a stringed instrument player for that matter. (I'm a Drummer)

I've wanted to lean how to play guitar for a few years now, and recently had my interest renewed enough to decide to buy a guitar. It happened while sitting with two of my band mates (rhythm and lead guitars) waiting for our bass player to call in and cancel his appearance (with a perfectly acceptable reason). I picked up a Fender Balboa (not sure of the spelling -- can't find a picture on google either) and started making some terrible noise while trying to figure out what a chord was.

Apparently that was enough to prompt an impromptu guitar lesson from the resident string pickers. I must say, that was the fastest four hours I've experienced in quite a while :) Not only did I get to play with the 6-string acoustic, but I played around with an 1980 Washburn Falcon (Apparently it's a heavy guitar... but I don't really know about that kind of thing).

After the lesson my un-calloused fingers were quite tender, but I kept on reaching for a guitar... That's when I informed my band mates of my decision to seriously learn the instrument. I think it will allow me to explore different angles and ideas in music, and tremendously help my overall knowledge of how music 'works,' which in turn will help me become a better drummer. :D

I recall most of what I was taught, but a single lesson fades quickly without practice. I recall doing a 'movable blues'? scale and a 'simple minor pentatonic' though I have no clue what that means. as well as moving four different barre chord shapes up and down the neck. I referred to my experience as a 'lesson,' that was probably a misnomer It was mostly the rhythm player trying to show me how to 'play this song' while the lead player tried to explain that 'up' means towards the floor -- with occasional actual knowledge thrown into the mix.

It was certainly entertaining!

Anyways, We afterwards discussed what kind of guitar I want to purchase. and we narrowed it down to something Les Paul -ish (Rhythm man kept on insisting that I should want something with a Humbucker single-coil humbucker configuration (II | II)... but I'm not too sure, it seems like it might be overkill)

I'd like the Les Paul GT, but I think either Menace or Standard (maybe the doublecut+) will be more in my price range.

Anyhow, that's my story.

[matthew]

Hey there :)

I'm not a Guitar player (yet) or even a stringed instrument player for that matter. (I'm a Drummer)Okay, guys, no more drummer jokes!!

Just kidding. Welcome to the party!

For what it's worth, I'll take a guitarist who only knows basic chords, but who has great rhythm over a "shredding virtuoso" any day. If you're a half-way decent drummer you should be able to pick up the basics of guitar and do pretty well before too long.

[truthfatal]

I don't mind drummer jokes :p

I definately want to have my rudiments under firm control before I start 'shredding' anything... and I can count to 4/4 like a champion! :) (5/4 is still some work and I haven't even attempted 11/16 yet... I should though).

I wonder What I should get for an amp.... I like th look of those "Orange" amps. Has ayone here played with one of them? I'm probably going to go in the 50-80 watt range.. small enough to practice, but big enough to take out where/when I'll want to be heard.

[paul cooke]

:O no post in 3 days . . . everyone still alive?

I've been too busy having fun with my new Bass...

http://www.peavey-eu.com/picture_display.php?sys=ALL&type=PDM_6_PL&level=PDM_6&tbl=system&def=A_3&key=3783

http://www.peavey-eu.com/pop_product.php?flag=GB&lan=UK&obs=N&live=Y&new=Y&dis=9&key=395&key_d=395-002

the transparent blue 4 string right handed one :guitar:

[matthew]

I've been too busy having fun with my new Bass...

http://www.peavey-eu.com/picture_display.php?sys=ALL&type=PDM_6_PL&level=PDM_6&tbl=system&def=A_3&key=3783

http://www.peavey-eu.com/pop_product.php?flag=GB&lan=UK&obs=N&live=Y&new=Y&dis=9&key=395&key_d=395-002

the transparent blue 4 string right handed one :guitar:Cool, congratulations!

[Patrick-Ruff]

so check it out, I've got MUCH better at picking but I'm a bit concerned about one thing, when I am picking, before the pick hits the string either the skin of my thumb (if I'm picking up) or the nail of my index (when I'm picking downward) will slightly rub on the string not producing any sound that I know of but I'm not entirely sure.


should I break that habit? I can get a video illustrating how I play and how I hold the pick if necessary.

[Patrick-Ruff]

looks like I missed the major talking hour or somethign? lol

[Bezmotivnik]

I was rooting through the Musician's Friend ninety-nine cent sale bagging dollar T-shirts, percussion mallets and whatnot and saw these blown out for a paltry $169, which is 70% off and pretty danged cheap for any kind of Spector:
http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/4/1/9/306419.jpg

Flame cherry only, however. Not available in...um...blue. :-\"

[Bezmotivnik]

should I break that habit?
If it isn't too hard and you're trying to develop perfect picking, yes.

If you are trying to develop into a shred king -- and I can think of only a few greater wastes of one's youth -- they have absolutely no wasted motion and perfectly consistent right and left hand co-ordination, which is based on very clean tactile feedback between the string, pick and fingertips. Any unwanted contact or hand motion confuses this.