Mandrake name change

[jwb]

Mandrake changed it's name to Mandriva. SUSE is now Novell. Red Hat (the free version..... as in beer) is now Fedora. Lindows became Linspire. Corel became Xandros. The courst are still deciding on what SCO really is......

I guess it's inevitable that all Linuxes will change names. Here's my list for Ubuntu's eventual change:

10. LinuxSchminux
9. Naked People Linux
8. jdongLinux
7. GNU/buntu
6. Not That-thing-you-see-through-walls-with (think about it....)
5. Shiny happy code
4. BrownLinux
3. Mark's OS
2. No it don't have KDE Linux

and the number 1 suggestion I have for the new Ubuntu name is......

1. Kill Bill, Volume 3

[kleeman]

How about MMJ Linux? (Mark, Matt and Jeff) :razz:

[panickedthumb]

I don't get #6, sorry ;)

[jwb]

I don't get #6, sorry ;)

C'mon...... how do you see through walls?

[az]

Infra red?


#1 sorta violates the "be nice to people" rule...

[jwb]

Infra red?

No, no, no.......

It's very likely right in front of you.

You see through walls every day.......

[az]

Fenêtres?


Oh, you mean _walls_.

[jwb]

Fenêtres?


Oh, you mean _walls_.

Exactly. How do you see through walls?

[kleeman]

The wind blows (Winblows) thru walls. Sorry for the lame humor :razz:

[az]

Let's change #1 to

"DamnGoodLinux"

[gylf]

Let's change #1 to

"DamnGoodLinux"

LOL you've got my vote!

[panickedthumb]

Oh freakin crap. I get it. Sloooowww today ;)

I was thinking "X ray vision? Why call a distro X ray vision??"

I'll hold out on spoiling it for those who may not have gotten it yet.

[DJ_Max]

Oh freakin crap. I get it. Sloooowww today ;)

I was thinking "X ray vision? Why call a distro X ray vision??"

I'll hold out on spoiling it for those who may not have gotten it yet.
Tell me, please :cry:

Also, RedHat didn't change it's name to Fedora, Fedora was Linux distro that merged with RedHat.

[panickedthumb]

Not only that, but SuSE didn't change to Novell-- they're still separate distros, owned by the same company.

But I think he was just trying to make a point.

Anyway, how do you see through walls? Well, when you DON'T want to see through them anymore you close the curtains.

[kassetra]

C'mon...... how do you see through walls?

Superman goggles!!

$9.99 in the back of most old comics... heh.

[az]

"Also, RedHat didn't change it's name to Fedora, Fedora was Linux distro that merged with RedHat."

No. Red hat created the project when they closed their distribution to the non-paying public.


"Not only that, but SuSE didn't change to Novell-- they're still separate distros, owned by the same company"

I thought that Suse was now called Novel linux desktop.


"Superman goggles!!

$9.99 in the back of most old comics... heh."

That was for clothing, not walls. It was sold to horny boys.



Now _there_ is a catchy name for a distro!

[panickedthumb]

The Fedora project was around before Red Hat took over, but they weren't a distro. I don't remember their exact purpose.

And Novell now has SuSE and NLD. Different distros, different purposes. SuSE is still going strong, from what I can tell. 9.3 should be out soon.

[carlc]

My vote is for: #9. Naked People Linux!

[tvelocity]

And Novell now has SuSE and NLD. Different distros, different purposes. SuSE is still going strong, from what I can tell. 9.3 should be out soon.

AFAIK Novell Linux Desktop is not a distro, it's just a bussiness desktop enviroment, based on gnome. It's the successor of Ximian Desktop.

[panickedthumb]

AFAIK Novell Linux Desktop is not a distro, it's just a bussiness desktop enviroment, based on gnome. It's the successor of Ximian Desktop.
http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/

[tvelocity]

http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/

It seems you're right. Well, at least when it was still just Ximian Desktop, it was not a complete operating system.

[panickedthumb]

true. I wish I'd known about Ximian desktop back in the day

[KiwiNZ]

Novell Desktop is a Distro .
I tried version 9 a few weeks back . It is a solid distro but very much targetted at the Corp desktop.

Novell are promising that version 10 due next year will be better than Windows Longhorn . And thats a pretty bold promise so I am looking forward to seeing it

[panickedthumb]

yeah really, especially since Longhorn hasn't been released. Who knows what that beast is going to be like.

[tvelocity]

Novell are promising that version 10 due next year will be better than Windows Longhorn . And thats a pretty bold promise so I am looking forward to seeing it

Isn't version 10 schedulled for late this year? Personally, i think linux is allready better than longhorn. Longhorn is so... overhyped. Besides that, untill longhorn is released, we'll have toy's like xgl, cairo and beagle to play with, so why bother with avalon and winFS?

[DJ_Max]

"Also, RedHat didn't change it's name to Fedora, Fedora was Linux distro that merged with RedHat."

No. Red hat created the project when they closed their distribution to the non-paying public.

Umm, not really...
http://www.fedora.us/fedora-merge.html
RedHat, Inc didn't really start Fedora, but they are sponsoring it.

The Fedora project was around before Red Hat took over, but they weren't a distro. I don't remember their exact purpose.
Sorta fuzzy, but
http://www.fedora.us/wiki/FedoraUsersFAQ

[panickedthumb]

I don't think anyone has commented on this yet, so I will:

Mandriva? What were they smoking?!?!

[kassetra]

I don't think anyone has commented on this yet, so I will:

Mandriva? What were they smoking?!?!

Maryjane.

But seriously... I know this joke...
So there once was this Man Driva down the road...

[poofyhairguy]

I don't think anyone has commented on this yet, so I will:

Mandriva? What were they smoking?!?!


The loss of the number one spot on distrowatch has driven them over the edge!


(joke)

[occy8]

Originally Posted by panickedthumb
I don't think anyone has commented on this yet, so I will:

Mandriva? What were they smoking?!?!



Mandrake bought connectiva a while back

[lao_V]

It seems that Mandrake had very good reason to change the name as explained here in the press release (http://www.mandriva.com/company/press/pr?n=/pr/corporate/2551) which occured primarily due to their acquisition of Connectiva.

Personally, I don't really like a company that keeps changing their name. Its seems they are not really serious about their business. Today, name change, tomorrow who knows what! I had some respect for Mandrake as it was the first linux distro I tried.

Bye bye Mandrake!! :-(

[bored2k]

It seems that Mandrake had very good reason to change the name as explained here in the press release (http://www.mandriva.com/company/press/pr?n=/pr/corporate/2551) which occured primarily due to their acquisition of Connectiva.

Personally, I don't really like a company that keeps changing their name. Its seems they are not really serious about their business. Today, name change, tomorrow who knows what! I had some respect for Mandrake as it was the first linux distro I tried.

Bye bye Mandrake!! :-(
Well lao_V, if Microsoft and Macintosh merged, do you think the company would be named Macintosh? It would be Microtosh or ... Microsoft :roll: .

[lao_V]

Well lao_V, if Microsoft and Macintosh merged, do you think the company would be named Macintosh? It would be Microtosh or ... Microsoft :roll: .

Microsoft, in their 20 odd year history have acquired many many companies. Did they ever change their name? Microsoft will be Microsoft no matter what (unless the whole company goes bankrupt :-))

[seven]

we need to own microsoft and change their name into mubuntu or somthin -:\
cmon, every one gives a dollar ](*,)

[KiwiNZ]

It seems that Mandrake had very good reason to change the name as explained here in the press release (http://www.mandriva.com/company/press/pr?n=/pr/corporate/2551) which occured primarily due to their acquisition of Connectiva.

Personally, I don't really like a company that keeps changing their name. Its seems they are not really serious about their business. Today, name change, tomorrow who knows what! I had some respect for Mandrake as it was the first linux distro I tried.

Bye bye Mandrake!! :-(

For me the name of the company is unimportant, its the product that counts. And Mandriva produces a solid product.

[panickedthumb]

OK I know Mandrake + COnnectiva = Mandriva-- but it would have been better to come up with a new name, rather than combining those two. That just sounds like some sort of disease you'd get from the rain forest insects.

[az]

"And Mandriva produces a solid product."

Nothing ever crashed my computer as much as Mandrake. I cannot talk about Mandriva...

[jdodson]

mandriva is not a terrible name. i think a worse one is mepis. honestly when i first started using ubuntu i really was a bit turned off by the name. the fact that is owned all other distros i tried converted me.

i think mandriva is a fine name. now is it catchy for average joe user? who knows. i might give it a spin when it comes out though.

[LongTooth]

As far as I'm concerned Mandriva is as good a name as any other. Just look at all the name changes that have come along that people have howled about. With the big to-do soon dying out. Besides, it lets linux folks know where it comes from.

I think this merger will be an enhancement with the end result being, I believe, a superior OS. I'm not a fan of either one, although I started my Linux adventure with Mandrake, but millions are. That alone says something. Lets face it, both Mandrake and Conectiva put out good products. Not my kind of products but good ones never the less.

I only wish them success. I just can't wait to see what they come up with.

[poofyhairguy]

When I first got into Linux, the first thing I tried to install was Mandrake. Why? Because I only knew of two-Redhat (the harder linux for business) and Mandrake (the noob distro I wanted to try). For a non Linux user, Mandrake was the first name I knew. Too bad, I would have saved a lot of time if I would have known Ubuntu instead. To throw away all of that brand recognition seems...stupid to me.

[muzza]

When I first got into Linux, the first thing I tried to install was Mandrake. Why? Because I only knew of two-Redhat (the harder linux for business) and Mandrake (the noob distro I wanted to try). For a non Linux user, Mandrake was the first name I knew. Too bad, I would have saved a lot of time if I would have known Ubuntu instead. To throw away all of that brand recognition seems...stupid to me.
I agree with you poofyhairyguy. Mandrake was my first distro - 3 weeks ago, and it very nearly turned me off my linux adventure for life. Luckily, I kept reading all the forums and came to the conclusion that I should give Ubuntu a go before booting up expee again, or OSX.

What a discovery! 2 days of enjoyment. Pity I haven't got broadband, though.

I don't care what Mandrake calls itself. It'll be a long time before I want to try URPMI again. Or should that be 'Urpmiva'? Lots of people like Mandrake - I hate it!

[bored2k]

I agree with you poofyhairyguy. Mandrake was my first distro - 3 weeks ago, and it very nearly turned me off my linux adventure for life. Luckily, I kept reading all the forums and came to the conclusion that I should give Ubuntu a go before booting up expee again, or OSX.

What a discovery! 2 days of enjoyment. Pity I haven't got broadband, though.

I don't care what Mandrake calls itself. It'll be a long time before I want to try URPMI again. Or should that be 'Urpmiva'? Lots of people like Mandrake - I hate it!
No matter what mandrake or red hat or fedora fans say, urpmi/yum/rpm-get will never be as powerful as apt-get/emerge.

I also fell in the "mandrake is the choice for newcomers" trick. Let's just say I got accustomed to reinstalling about every 10 days. Reminded me of the past I wanted to stay away from. Then Xandros v1 looked at me, I cant say its the best, but it had apt-get, and I had always wanted to get debian powers without getting debian dirty. The rest is history.

[Ubunted]

I actually used Mandrake quite happily for a few months. However apt-get, an install that is a fraction of the size, the always-free approach and the fact that it uses by default the only things I ever really used in Mandrake anyway - Firefox and GAIM - drew me over.

Something smells rotten over at Mandrake/Mandriva these days - something like no more free version some day. They are certainly putting a lot of emphasis on their paid versions and I hear less and less about the free versions all the time. I would not be surprised ONE BIT if they announced there would be no more free version once sales of the boxed sets grew enough.

[bvc]

I have an install, that my wife (missynay) uses, that has gone from ML-9.0, rc's, 9.1, rc's, 10 beta's, rc's, 10.1 betas, rc's, to ML-10.2 via urpmi and I have used mandrake since 8.1.

It does not have as many options (gui or cmdline)
It can not compile source
but it rocks compared to 2 years ago. Knock it all you want but it does work and work well and I dare say as well as apt for the average joe blow and definately better than any other rpm pkg mgr. I've NEVER had urpmi bork an install. APT (debian SID) has borked 2 ;-)

As for the name, yeah it sucks, but don't they all? Yes :p

MandrakeSoft is a business and has always acted as such. It takes $ to make $ and $ they have always had, regardless of bankruptcy ;-) They, like any business have done things the consumer didn't like. I suspect they are up to it again. I always said they should stop allowing free downloads. Because if that is what it took to keep from getting emails asking for $ and support then yeah, stop the freebees and charge $ PLEASE but only if you improve the product! That's were they have always fallen sort, as all linux distros have. Incomplete. As usual.
http://mandrakeusers.org/style_emoticons/default/cowboy.gif

[Jesus Franco]

The wind blows (Winblows) thru walls. Sorry for the lame humor :razz:

LOL

I love this community :D