Murrine Official Thread

[ComplexNumber]

Hi!

I installed the engine thanks to the .deb package and then installed some themes. But on my system, it doesn't look like the screenshots, especially buttons which are not flat at all. Menus are also pretty ugly.

I tried to use the configurator, and set everything to flat just to see, but it doesn't seem to change anything. I also tried to log out / in without luck.

Any idea?

EDIT:

I found, the libraries were not installed in the correct directory (/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines). Looks good now :-)
i seem to be having the same problem as you excapt that my murrine theme engine is installed in the correct place, but there seems to be lots of murrine themes all looking the same (see screenshot). there are plenty more that look like the ones circles in red. BUT, they don't all look like that. some look correct.
when i compiled the engine, i did the following:
./configure --enable-animation --prefix=/usr
make
make install

any idea what may be causing some of the themes to look identical?

EDIT: silly me. i should have read the earlier posts in the thread. just in case someone else has several themes all looking the same, install and run murrina configurator. you can get it from gnome-look

[~LoKe]

Can you compile a version with --enable-macmenu?? I can't seem to get this engine to compile on my feisty. It complains about my gtk version.

Edit: Nevermind, I found the dependency.

The version from the Edgy repos works just fine under Feisty.

[Polygon]

I dont think that command to add the repo key works. Every time i do it, it downloads and then just sits there until a kill it. I did manage to get the key just by manually downloading it and entering it with synaptic.

mark@ubuntu:~$ wget http://malteo.homelinux.net/B54820BC.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
Password:--16:37:52-- http://malteo.homelinux.net/B54820BC.gpg
=> `-'
Resolving malteo.homelinux.net... 84.220.10.160
Connecting to malteo.homelinux.net|84.220.10.160|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 1,686 (1.6K) [text/plain]

100%[====================================>] 1,686 --.--K/s

16:37:52 (1.01 MB/s) - `-' saved [1686/1686]


sudo: pam_authenticate: Conversation error
mark@ubuntu:~$

[hikaricore]

I dont think that command to add the repo key works. Every time i do it, it downloads and then just sits there until a kill it. I did manage to get the key just by manually downloading it and entering it with synaptic.

try it like this:

sudo wget http://malteo.homelinux.net/B54820BC.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -

You're not authenticating with sudo on the first command the other way and it's just trying to process the command with no password.

Worked fine for me that way.

[jozmak]

I've just installed configurator on xubuntu but I dont know how to start it. Any idea?

jmak

[Athropos]

I've just installed configurator on xubuntu but I dont know how to start it. Any idea?

You may try to type "murrine-configurator" in a terminal.

[jozmak]

This is what i get.

mak@mak-desktop:~$ murrine-configurator
bash: murrine-configurator: command not found
mak@mak-desktop:~$

[Athropos]

How did you install it? If you compiled it, you can try to install this package (http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/pool/edgy/3v1n0/murrine-configurator_0.5+3v1ubuntu0_i386.deb) (it's for Edgy).

[jozmak]

Thanks. The deb package works great.

[jozmak]

Hi,

I installed the configurator, i did the configuration but nothing seems to change.

[basibanget]

I have successfully installed murrine but some application seem not using the theme. how do I fix this? here's a screen shot of Network configuration using MurrineFancySky
http://xs511.xs.to/xs511/07036/fancysky.jpg

and I cant access cimi's website..is it down?

[Athropos]

These applications are the administrative ones, aren't they? If so, you may read this post (http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1974811&postcount=249).

[basibanget]

thx athropos
that really clear things up

[digitalghost1]

Looks like repository the site is down at http://malteo.homelinux.net/ :( I was able to get there last night.

[digitalghost1]

It's back up now!!!:D

[rhclaus]

Hi everybody.

I have a little problem with installing the Murrine Engine.

So...

I add a key, r. to source.list and then "update" in console without errors. Next in console (in polish, I'll translate)

claus@claus-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-murrine
Czytanie list pakietów... Gotowe
Budowanie drzewa zależności
Reading state information... Gotowe
Zostaną zainstalowane następujące NOWE pakiety:
gtk2-engines-murrine
0 aktualizowanych, 1 nowo instalowanych, 0 usuwanych i 0 nieaktualizowanych.
Konieczne pobranie 0B/38,7kB archiwów.
Po rozpakowaniu zostanie dodatkowo użyte 156kB miejsca na dysku.
(Odczytywanie bazy danych ... 103968 plików i katalogów obecnie zainstalowanych.)
Rozpakowanie gtk2-engines-murrine (z .../gtk2-engines-murrine_0.41-0ubuntu1_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: błąd przetwarzania /var/cache/apt/archives/gtk2-engines-murrine_0.41-0ubuntu1_i386.deb (--unpack):
próba nadpisania `/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/libmurrine.so', który istnieje także w pakiecie murrine-engine
Wystąpiły błędy podczas przetwarzania:
/var/cache/apt/archives/gtk2-engines-murrine_0.41-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)


When process try to overwrite "libmurrine.so" it's failed. So I deleted "libmurrine.so", but it's change nothing. I have this error when I install Murrine from console and from .deb.

Plz help. :(

Edit:

Now it's all ok, I try another site with debs from polish ubuntu board:

http://download.ubuntu.pl/_Edgy_Eft/gtk2-engine/

Take care.

[ComplexNumber]

why have so many themers using the murrine theme engine not written the gtkrc correctly? for example, there are lots of murrina themes where the metacity bar is shown as its meant to be in gnome-theme-manager, but the themer has not assigned the correct colours in the gtkrc file, so the metacity bar end up being very dark grey.
the "bg[SELECTED]" colour defined at the start of the gtkrc file is the correct colour(in this case, light grey) that is shown in gnome-theme-manager, yet the person who modified the theme went and set it to be a different colour later on in the file. the screenshot shows an example

[bvc]

some people don't know any better -that it should be changed- because they use pixmap metacity themes or another window manager. I guess?

[ComplexNumber]

some people don't know any better -that it should be changed- because they use pixmap metacity themes or another window manager. I guess?
i guess that too. for consistancy, i make up an index.theme file where only the gtk theme is supplied, and then add the Murrine metacity theme (i can always choose a different MC theme if i choose to use a particular theme. at least when there is an index.theme file fully configured, i can see at a glance in gnome-theme-manager what the theme looks like). as this uses the colours of the gtk theme, this is why i see so many inconsistancies in the murrine themes. there are at least 10-12 murrine themes that haven't had their gtkrc file written correctly.

[Uncle Spellbinder]

Another way to do that is to create links to your ".themes" and ".icons" directories in "/root", so that all the themes installed for you are also available for root. This way, root applications will always use the same theme as yours without having to "sudo gnome-theme-manager" on every theme change.

To create the links, simply type this in a terminal:


sudo ln -sf ~/.themes /root/.themes
sudo ln -sf ~/.icons /root/.icons


Thanks! Things look so much better now. :wink:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v694/unclespellbinder/MurrineNetwork.png

[lierodeath]

Geh!

I have installed the Murrina engine from source (0.4.1 orig).

I restarted X, then tried installing and applying the Murrina Graphite and Murrina Candy themes.

They both loaded, but they both seem to be using a butt-ugly default engine or something - it looks all wrong.

Any ideas?

[ComplexNumber]

Geh!

I have installed the Murrina engine from source (0.4.1 orig).

I restarted X, then tried installing and applying the Murrina Graphite and Murrina Candy themes.

They both loaded, but they both seem to be using a butt-ugly default engine or something - it looks all wrong.

Any ideas?
download murrine-configurator here (http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=45917), compile the program, then fire up the terminal and run the program ON THE THEMES THAT LOOK UGLY by typing in:
sudo murrine-configurator --theme-dir /path to/your/themes

for example, if your murrine themes are stored in /usr/share/themes, then type in:
sudo murrine-configurator --theme-dir /usr/share/themes

then select the themes that look ugly, and go through the steps. you can accept the defaults or you can choose to change them.

after that, you will notice that your themes that previously looked odd, now look good.


note: even though its a graphical program, it still needs to be run using sudo rather than gksudo.

[Banjaxala]

So when it says i386 is the only architecture supported--is it not compatible with PPC?

[ComplexNumber]

So when it says i386 is the only architecture supported--is it not compatible with PPC?
yup, thats correct.

[Cimi86]

Next murrine release, 0.50, will go gradients.
You can always get the previous look with gradients = FALSE in the gtkrc.

This is a screenshot of the new version, see the blue button =)
http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/3894/200702042231421280x1024ai0.th.png (http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/3894/200702042231421280x1024ai0.png)

Another screenshot with just controls:
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5145/20070204231327804x586scyo6.th.png (http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5145/20070204231327804x586scyo6.png)

Hope you like my improvements

[ComplexNumber]

Next murrine release, 0.50, will go gradients.
You can always get the previous look with gradients = FALSE in the gtkrc.

This is a screenshot of the new version, see the blue button =)
http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/3894/200702042231421280x1024ai0.th.png (http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/3894/200702042231421280x1024ai0.png)

Another screenshot with just controls:
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5145/20070204231327804x586scyo6.th.png (http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5145/20070204231327804x586scyo6.png)

Hope you like my improvements
looks good. i notice bvc's ish theme there.

btw, murrine is my favourite engine of all.

[Rexbron!]

looks good. i notice bvc's ish theme there.

btw, murrine is my favourite engine of all.

Then I guess you will be happy to know that Murrine has been accepted into the Universe and is being considered for inclusion into main. :)

[ComplexNumber]

Then I guess you will be happy to know that Murrine has been accepted into the Universe and is being considered for inclusion into main. :)
ahhh goody! i've always built it from source and added the --enable-animation switch. hope the deb is built with that switch too.

[malte]

ROCK'N'ROLL!!!
Murrine is in universe (http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/source/murrine)! :D
You can backport it to edgy or dapper using prevu, or "your personal backports developer": follow this guide (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=268687), it's just 6 steps, really easy.
Download prevu (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=125877&package_id=206140) and install the deb with gdebi or with dpkg, then (this is for edgy):

echo "deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty main restricted universe multiverse" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
sudo apt-get update
sudo prevu-init
prevu murrine
sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/prevu/edgy-debs/gtk2-engines-murrine_0.41-0ubuntu1~6.10prevu1_i386.deb

Refer to the original guide for dapper or breezy.

In a few days I'll shut my repository down, my computer needs some rest :rolleyes:
Post for any problem using prevu!

[Rexbron!]

ROCK'N'ROLL!!!
Murrine is in universe (http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/source/murrine)! :D
You can backport it to edgy or dapper using prevu, or "your personal backports developer": follow this guide (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=268687), it's just 6 steps, really easy.
Download prevu (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=125877&package_id=206140) and install the deb with gdebi or with dpkg, then (this is for edgy):

echo "deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty main restricted universe multiverse" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
sudo apt-get update
sudo prevu-init
prevu murrine
sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/prevu/edgy-debs/gtk2-engines-murrine_0.41-0ubuntu1~6.10prevu1_i386.deb

Refer to the original guide for dapper or breezy.

In a few days I'll shut my repository down, my computer needs some rest :rolleyes:
Post for any problem using prevu!

All my hard work paid off! Really glad to see people appricate the work.

[serlex]

erm, is the repository still good to go? seems to be down; or is there a another way of installing

[Riggs]

serlex - just follow the previous post to yours....it works just fine. I just did it.

[MetalMusicAddict]

Yep. You guys have Rexbron! to thank for getting Murrine into Universe.

Murrine is a great engine. ;)

[cimnik]

Another way to do that is to create links to your ".themes" and ".icons" directories in "/root", so that all the themes installed for you are also available for root. This way, root applications will always use the same theme as yours without having to "sudo gnome-theme-manager" on every theme change.

To create the links, simply type this in a terminal:


sudo ln -sf ~/.themes /root/.themes
sudo ln -sf ~/.icons /root/.icons


I have the same problem but this doesn't fix it. Anything else I can do?

[bvc]

Hi Cimi,
I've been playing with Metacity2 (variable corners and additional buttons).
Here's a screenie (http://gnomethemes.org/devel/murrine-metacity2.png)
I don't like the rollup/shade button. I'm just mirroring what the Bright and Crux Metacity2 themes have for now. The top corners have a bug and are not rounding 1px in both directions. The horizontal is going 2px's. I'll have to file a bug. Bottom corners look good though.

Congrats on getting into universe!

[EDIT]the bug has already been filed
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=399373

[butmunch]

I can't get this working at all.. I've looked around a bit to no avail, if I use a compile from source or install the .deb it doesn't matter... every theme just goes back to a nasty two tone border like ms windows98. Any pointers? like, at all?

I figure it's something to do with this


(zenity:12770): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "murrine",

[bvc]

when you compile are you doing --prefix=/usr?

./configure --prefix=/usr

[cimnik]

Another way to do that is to create links to your ".themes" and ".icons" directories in "/root", so that all the themes installed for you are also available for root. This way, root applications will always use the same theme as yours without having to "sudo gnome-theme-manager" on every theme change.

To create the links, simply type this in a terminal:


sudo ln -sf ~/.themes /root/.themes
sudo ln -sf ~/.icons /root/.icons


I have the same problem that administrative applications do not theme properly and look ugly. Neither solution helps.

[Slalomsk8er]

I made a 64bit edgy deb.

enjoy

[spitfireinc]

could someone upload a .deb package for version 0.41.
I cant seem to download it, the repo is down.

[Duncan_Idaho]

yes, the repo seems to be down
I can't download either :(

[mxt]

Hi all.
Since I didn't find a good metacity theme for a rounded Murrina, I made it myself, basing on Human.
It's called HumanMurrina and you can find it on gnome-look.org (http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=53680)

Suggestions for improvements are very welcome !

[Bastanteroma]

Is it possible to make the progress bar a single color, not striped?

I'm trying to edit Murrina Industrial to make it more faithful to the original Industrial.

I'm also trying to figure out which lines affect the taskbar colors, if anyone can direct me.

Thanks

[swj]

Cimi,

I am wondering if .50 will be released before feisty and if so, do you think it will make it into the repo?

Thanks!

[ComplexNumber]

Is it possible to make the progress bar a single color, not striped?

I'm trying to edit Murrina Industrial to make it more faithful to the original Industrial.

I'm also trying to figure out which lines affect the taskbar colors, if anyone can direct me.

Thanks
to change the progress bar, run murrina configurator. get it from here (http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=45917). if your murrina themes are stored in /usr/share/themes, then run the following:
sudo murrina-configurator --theme-dir /usr/share/themes



when you say "taskbar", don't you mean the panel?

[Bastanteroma]

Yeah, taskbar is the held over Windows term.

I'll keep poking around in the gtkrc, but I'm confused by all the x = y notations, where y is often "default" (vague because I'm not at my computer at the moment). Are the changes I made under the heading "panel," and to the color of the progress bar, which still appears striped blue, not having any effect because they are referring instead to the default theme values? Can I eliminate the "="?

I probably search more for a guide to editing gtkrcs, but don't let that stop you from giving me a quick answer if you happen to know!

[ComplexNumber]

Yeah, taskbar is the held over Windows term.

I'll keep poking around in the gtkrc, but I'm confused by all the x = y notations, where y is often "default" (vague because I'm not at my computer at the moment). Are the changes I made under the heading "panel," and to the color of the progress bar, which still appears striped blue, not having any effect because they are referring instead to the default theme values? Can I eliminate the "="?

I probably search more for a guide to editing gtkrcs, but don't let that stop you from giving me a quick answer if you happen to know!
well, i haven't had a go at changing the widgets in themes....only colour mods.
you could have a look at one of the themes that changes the theme background such as alphacube gtk theme. this is a snippet from the theme that alters the panel:

style "alphacube-panel" = "alphacube-default"
{
xthickness = 3
ythickness = 3
}

.............



style "panelbg" {
bg_pixmap[NORMAL] = "panel-bg.png"
bg_pixmap[INSENSITIVE] = "<parent>"
bg_pixmap[PRELIGHT] = "<parent>"
bg_pixmap[SELECTED] = "<parent>"
bg_pixmap[ACTIVE] = "<parent>"
}
class "Panel*" style "panelbg"

[Bastanteroma]

Sorry, my last post was a bit of a muddle.

My goal is to make the progress bar a solid color. I take it that there is no way to do that in a Murrina's gtkrc file. It's a widget property, not a simple color choice.

The other thing I'd like to do is make the window list buttons on the panel change color more, so it's easier to see at a glance which are depressed and which aren't.

My cryptic question about "x = y (where y often = default)" meant to refer to lines like this one: "style "alphacube-panel" = "alphacube-default"" which I thought might bypass modifications to alphacube-panel by referring to alphacube-default, for example. I'll have to take a look at the gtkrc when I get home to see if it has a section like the one you posted ComplexNumber (thanks, by the way).

[ComplexNumber]

which theme exactly are trying to mod? i have all the murrina themes, so ic could have a look at it for you.

when you say "solid colour", i imagine that you mean no animation. in that case have a look at the gtkrc file, do a search for "animation". set it to FALSE.

i'm not too sure if i can help on the 2nd bit.

btw a useful application where you can test your mods out on is called gtktester here (http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=35493). just either install it or run the executable by double clicking on it.

[swj]

I now see that you have released .50! How do we get .50 included into the feisty repository?

Thanks!:)

[katana2k]

yeah the ubuntu edgy repo seems to be down, can somebody just post the Murrine 0.5 Edgy .deb here?

[Bastanteroma]

Complex Number:

The progress bar is striped diagonally and I want to get rid of the stripes. Turning animations on or off hasn't done anything I can see.

This is the theme I've been messing with:
http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=53849

See what I mean?

[Athropos]

Is someone going to provide packages for Edgy?

[getaceres]

I've uploaded my own package version here:

http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=45442&forummode=2&forumpage=0&forumexplevel=0&forumthread=163733#c163733

Use it at your own risk.

[swj]

Perhaps someone could provide a Feisty .50 deb?

Thanks!

[Arkeos]

getaceres' package works perfectly with Feisty :)

[getaceres]

getaceres' package works perfectly with Feisty :)

It may work but I compiled it in Edgy and with checkinstall, so it has no dependencies. Maybe if Feisty's developers come out with an official 0.50 package it may create conflict with my package (just a matter of uninstalling one and installing another).
It's just an advice. Use it at your own risk.

[malte]

You can still use prevu to get a deb of the latest version.
First, create a directory (could be '~/packages/murrine/') and put in there the freshly downloaded 'murrine-0.50.tar.bz2'. 'cd' into that directory and:

apt-get source murrine
cd murrine-0.41/
uupdate -u ../murrine-0.50.tar.bz2
cd ../murrine-0.50
prevu

Isn't that easy? ;)

[swj]

You can still use prevu to get a deb of the latest version.
First, create a directory (could be '~/packages/murrine/') and put in there the freshly downloaded 'murrine-0.50.tar.bz2'. 'cd' into that directory and:

apt-get source murrine
cd murrine-0.41/
uupdate -u ../murrine-0.50.tar.bz2
cd ../murrine-0.50
prevu

Isn't that easy? ;)

Thanks.

[kallu_be]

can somebody post deb for amd64

[Duncan_Idaho]

how can I change the colors of a theme? :confused:
ie: make a orange theme?
cuz I like ubuntu's orange \\:D/

[ComplexNumber]

how can I change the colors of a theme? :confused:
ie: make a orange theme?
cuz I like ubuntu's orange \\:D/
try this (http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=47349). needs compiling though. here's a screenshot of what you will be using.

[flargen]

A deb for X86 Feisty.

EDIT:

Now version 0.51 and built using that crazy 'prevu' thing!

[juttybean]

hey does anyone know a way i can get murrina for dapper. i tried from the way it says on the first page of this thread but i had problems gettin everything needed because the repo. was down . any help would be appreciated.

[baze]

the new gradient stuff in 0.51 is so damn sweet, great work!
it would be really great if roundness would affect the inner borders of the scrollbar buttons at the top and the bottom and not (or aswell as) the outer borders and roundness would make the scrollbar itself round, so you could make a scrollbar like mac os x has with the murrine engine :)

[serlex]

Just installed 0.51, but can not install MurrinaFancyClearlooks_v0.5, receieve invalid file type when i try to "install" it through themes.

Anyone know why? Thank you

[bvc]

you can't install it with the gnome-theme-manager. Extract them manually to .themes

[tyeracj41]

I too, am getting the ugly Win98 style buttons and what not. Only on certain themes however. I am using FancyCandy right now, and it looks pretty nice. I decided I didn't like the striped menu bar, so I opened up Murrine Configurator using the "murrine-configurator --themeand started going through the prompts. Everything was good until I got to the listviewheaders option. I left the option the same, and went on to the next step. However, upon doing so, it changed the controls to the hideous Win98 buttons. In the terminal, it gave me this output:
/root/.themes/MurrinaFancyCandy/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:45: error: unexpected identifier `listviewstyle', expected character `}'
and repeats it when I got to the next step. So I wind up with this:
/root/.themes/MurrinaFancyCandy/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:45: error: unexpected identifier `listviewstyle', expected character `}'
/root/.themes/MurrinaFancyCandy/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:45: error: unexpected identifier `listviewstyle', expected character `}'
/root/.themes/MurrinaFancyCandy/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:45: error: unexpected identifier `listviewstyle', expected character `}'
/root/.themes/MurrinaFancyCandy/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:45: error: unexpected identifier `scrollbarstyle', expected character `}'
/root/.themes/MurrinaFancyCandy/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:45: error: unexpected identifier `scrollbarstyle', expected character `}'
I've attached before and after screenshots. It seems like there are several people who have this same problem (Win98 buttons), and none of us have gotten a definite resolution. Hopefully this helps.

Before:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/tyeracj41/Screenshot-2.png

After:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/tyeracj41/Screenshot-1.png

[ComplexNumber]

tyeracj41
the definite resolution has been mentioned many many times throughout this thread. download this (http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=45917), compile it, then fire up the terminal and type in:
sudo murrine-configurator --theme-dir /usr/share/themes

OR

murrine-configurator --theme-dir ~/.themes



then select the theme that you want to de-uglify.

[apelete]

I tried to make a gtk2-engines-murrine_0.51 on my Dapper box but I couldn't even go through "./configure" because it seems this new engine needs GTK 2.8... Here's the error I get:

checking for GTK... no
configure: error: GTK+-2.8 is required to compile murrine

What is going on, is it impossible to get 0.51 on Dapper ?

[ComplexNumber]

I tried to make a gtk2-engines-murrine_0.51 on my Dapper box but I couldn't even go through "./configure" because it seems this new engine needs GTK 2.8... Here's the error I get:

checking for GTK... no
configure: error: GTK+-2.8 is required to compile murrine

What is going on, is it impossible to get 0.51 on Dapper ?
install libgtk2.0-dev

[tyeracj41]

Ok, so I went through and replaced my themes with the original ones. It looks good. They look like they are supposed to. Then I ran
murrine-configurator --theme-dir ~/.themes
But still, when I get to a certain point, the theme goes back to looking ugly. Even when I don't change any settings. Why is this?

[denisesballs]

install libgtk2.0-dev

Hey guys, I am also trying to get .51 installed. Is there really no .deb for it? when trying this I get:

jesse@e6300:~$ sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
libgtk2.0-dev: Depends: libpango1.0-dev (>= 1.12) but it is not going to be installed

[ComplexNumber]

when I get to a certain point
what is that point?

[apelete]

Try install libgtk2.0-dev with synaptic, it will select all the dependencies for you. I have just succeeded in creating a 0.51 package on Dapper using checkinstall but I got the same "graphical ugliness" problem, so I create a 0.41 and revert back to it...

[edit]
Unfortunately I got the same ugliness problem with the 0.41 package I made. I don't know where it comes from, but there's definetely a problem since I have used Malteo's 0.41 before.
I'm now on a downloaded 0.40 package...

[ComplexNumber]

Try install libgtk2.0-dev with synaptic, it will select all the dependencies for you. I have just succeeded in creating a 0.51 package on Dapper using checkinstall but I got the same "graphical ugliness" problem, so I create a 0.41 and revert back to it...

[edit]
Unfortunately I got the same ugliness problem with the 0.41 package I made. I don't know where it comes from, but there's definetely a problem since I have used Malteo's 0.41 before.
I'm now on a downloaded 0.40 package...
did you run murrine-configurator on the themes that suffer from "graphical ugliness"?

[tyeracj41]

what is that point?

Everything was good until I got to the listviewheaders option. I left the option the same, and went on to the next step. However, upon doing so, it changed the controls to the hideous Win98 buttons. I posted about this on the last page (32). You can look at it more detailed there.

[ComplexNumber]

Everything was good until I got to the listviewheaders option. I left the option the same, and went on to the next step. However, upon doing so, it changed the controls to the hideous Win98 buttons.don't change it whilst you have got the theme selected. select A DIFFERENT THEME other than the one you want to de-uglify when you run murrine-configurator.

[apelete]

did you run murrine-configurator on the themes that suffer from "graphical ugliness"?

Yeah, I did, of course...

don't change it whilst you have got the theme selected. select A DIFFERENT THEME other than the one you want to de-uglify when you run murrine-configurator.

But I ran it on the theme I was planning to use.
I'm tired of installing and removing these same packages: can anyone try this option and tell if it works ?

[Cimi86]

I too, am getting the ugly Win98 style buttons and what not. Only on certain themes however. I am using FancyCandy right now, and it looks pretty nice. I decided I didn't like the striped menu bar, so I opened up Murrine Configurator using the "murrine-configurator --themeand started going through the prompts. Everything was good until I got to the listviewheaders option. I left the option the same, and went on to the next step. However, upon doing so, it changed the controls to the hideous Win98 buttons. In the terminal, it gave me this output:

and repeats it when I got to the next step. So I wind up with this:

I've attached before and after screenshots. It seems like there are several people who have this same problem (Win98 buttons), and none of us have gotten a definite resolution. Hopefully this helps.

Before:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/tyeracj41/Screenshot-2.png

After:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/tyeracj41/Screenshot-1.png
Murrine version? 0.51 is released.
But probably it's just a problem in the gtkrc, see at line 45 what happenes

[Cimi86]

Playing with metacity... Next to release ;)

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/1959/schermataqy9.th.png (http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/1959/schermataqy9.png)

[ButteBlues]

Golly that is a nice theme Cimi!

Do you have a WIP I could play with on my box? :D


Also, which GTK theme are you using?

[ComplexNumber]

But I ran it on the theme I was planning to use.
I'm tired of installing and removing these same packages: can anyone try this option and tell if it works ?
what i meant was, assuming you are wanting to de-uglify Murrine-Brown, don't have Murrine-Brown selected as a theme in gnome-theme-manager whilst you are running murrine-configurator in order to de-uglify Murrina-brown.

[Ek0nomik]

fleur@fleur-laptop:~/src/murrine-0.51/src$ ./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-animation
bash: ./configure: No such file or directory


I keep getting that error. Bash doesn't recognize the .configure command. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

[Ek0nomik]

Meh, I am an idiot. I was in the wrong directory.

fleur@fleur-laptop:~/src/murrine-0.51$ sudo ./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-animation
Password:
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... /bin/mkdir -p
checking for gawk... no
checking for mawk... mawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no
checking for gcc... gcc
checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for suffix of executables...
checking for suffix of object files... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking for gcc option to accept ISO C89... none needed
checking for style of include used by make... GNU
checking dependency style of gcc... gcc3
checking for gcc... (cached) gcc
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... (cached) yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes
checking for gcc option to accept ISO C89... (cached) none needed
checking dependency style of gcc... (cached) gcc3
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... (cached) yes
checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking for a sed that does not truncate output... /bin/sed
checking for grep that handles long lines and -e... /bin/grep
checking for egrep... /bin/grep -E
checking for ld used by gcc... /usr/bin/ld
checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes
checking for /usr/bin/ld option to reload object files... -r
checking for BSD-compatible nm... /usr/bin/nm -B
checking whether ln -s works... yes
checking how to recognise dependent libraries... pass_all
checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
checking for ANSI C header files... yes
checking for sys/types.h... yes
checking for sys/stat.h... yes
checking for stdlib.h... yes
checking for string.h... yes
checking for memory.h... yes
checking for strings.h... yes
checking for inttypes.h... yes
checking for stdint.h... yes
checking for unistd.h... yes
checking dlfcn.h usability... yes
checking dlfcn.h presence... yes
checking for dlfcn.h... yes
checking for g++... g++
checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... yes
checking whether g++ accepts -g... yes
checking dependency style of g++... gcc3
checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... g++ -E
checking for g77... no
checking for xlf... no
checking for f77... no
checking for frt... no
checking for pgf77... no
checking for cf77... no
checking for fort77... no
checking for fl32... no
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checking for pghpf... no
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checking for xlf95... no
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checking for fort... no
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checking for ifc... no
checking for efc... no
checking for pgf95... no
checking for lf95... no
checking for ftn... no
checking whether we are using the GNU Fortran 77 compiler... no
checking whether accepts -g... no
checking the maximum length of command line arguments... 32768
checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output from gcc object... ok
checking for objdir... .libs
checking for ar... ar
checking for ranlib... ranlib
checking for strip... strip
checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions... no
checking for gcc option to produce PIC... -fPIC
checking if gcc PIC flag -fPIC works... yes
checking if gcc static flag -static works... yes
checking if gcc supports -c -o file.o... yes
checking whether the gcc linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes
checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in... no
checking dynamic linker characteristics... cat: /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf: No such file or directory
GNU/Linux ld.so
checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate
checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes
checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes
checking whether to build shared libraries... yes
checking whether to build static libraries... no
configure: creating libtool
appending configuration tag "CXX" to libtool
checking for ld used by g++... /usr/bin/ld
checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes
checking whether the g++ linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes
checking for g++ option to produce PIC... -fPIC
checking if g++ PIC flag -fPIC works... yes
checking if g++ static flag -static works... yes
checking if g++ supports -c -o file.o... yes
checking whether the g++ linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes
checking dynamic linker characteristics... cat: /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf: No such file or directory
GNU/Linux ld.so
checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate
appending configuration tag "F77" to libtool
checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config
checking pkg-config is at least version 0.9.0... yes
checking for GTK... no
configure: error: GTK+-2.8 is required to compile murrine
fleur@fleur-laptop:~/src/murrine-0.51$ make
make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop.
fleur@fleur-laptop:~/src/murrine-0.51$


So, the ./configure command works perfectly fine, but now I don't see why the make command doesn't work?

[ButteBlues]

Meh, I am an idiot. I was in the wrong directory.

fleur@fleur-laptop:~/src/murrine-0.51$ sudo ./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-animation
Password:
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... /bin/mkdir -p
checking for gawk... no
checking for mawk... mawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no
checking for gcc... gcc
checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for suffix of executables...
checking for suffix of object files... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking for gcc option to accept ISO C89... none needed
checking for style of include used by make... GNU
checking dependency style of gcc... gcc3
checking for gcc... (cached) gcc
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... (cached) yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes
checking for gcc option to accept ISO C89... (cached) none needed
checking dependency style of gcc... (cached) gcc3
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... (cached) yes
checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking for a sed that does not truncate output... /bin/sed
checking for grep that handles long lines and -e... /bin/grep
checking for egrep... /bin/grep -E
checking for ld used by gcc... /usr/bin/ld
checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes
checking for /usr/bin/ld option to reload object files... -r
checking for BSD-compatible nm... /usr/bin/nm -B
checking whether ln -s works... yes
checking how to recognise dependent libraries... pass_all
checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
checking for ANSI C header files... yes
checking for sys/types.h... yes
checking for sys/stat.h... yes
checking for stdlib.h... yes
checking for string.h... yes
checking for memory.h... yes
checking for strings.h... yes
checking for inttypes.h... yes
checking for stdint.h... yes
checking for unistd.h... yes
checking dlfcn.h usability... yes
checking dlfcn.h presence... yes
checking for dlfcn.h... yes
checking for g++... g++
checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... yes
checking whether g++ accepts -g... yes
checking dependency style of g++... gcc3
checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... g++ -E
checking for g77... no
checking for xlf... no
checking for f77... no
checking for frt... no
checking for pgf77... no
checking for cf77... no
checking for fort77... no
checking for fl32... no
checking for af77... no
checking for xlf90... no
checking for f90... no
checking for pgf90... no
checking for pghpf... no
checking for epcf90... no
checking for gfortran... no
checking for g95... no
checking for xlf95... no
checking for f95... no
checking for fort... no
checking for ifort... no
checking for ifc... no
checking for efc... no
checking for pgf95... no
checking for lf95... no
checking for ftn... no
checking whether we are using the GNU Fortran 77 compiler... no
checking whether accepts -g... no
checking the maximum length of command line arguments... 32768
checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output from gcc object... ok
checking for objdir... .libs
checking for ar... ar
checking for ranlib... ranlib
checking for strip... strip
checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions... no
checking for gcc option to produce PIC... -fPIC
checking if gcc PIC flag -fPIC works... yes
checking if gcc static flag -static works... yes
checking if gcc supports -c -o file.o... yes
checking whether the gcc linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes
checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in... no
checking dynamic linker characteristics... cat: /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf: No such file or directory
GNU/Linux ld.so
checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate
checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes
checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes
checking whether to build shared libraries... yes
checking whether to build static libraries... no
configure: creating libtool
appending configuration tag "CXX" to libtool
checking for ld used by g++... /usr/bin/ld
checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes
checking whether the g++ linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes
checking for g++ option to produce PIC... -fPIC
checking if g++ PIC flag -fPIC works... yes
checking if g++ static flag -static works... yes
checking if g++ supports -c -o file.o... yes
checking whether the g++ linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes
checking dynamic linker characteristics... cat: /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf: No such file or directory
GNU/Linux ld.so
checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate
appending configuration tag "F77" to libtool
checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config
checking pkg-config is at least version 0.9.0... yes
checking for GTK... no
configure: error: GTK+-2.8 is required to compile murrine
fleur@fleur-laptop:~/src/murrine-0.51$ make
make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop.
fleur@fleur-laptop:~/src/murrine-0.51$


So, the ./configure command works perfectly fine, but now I don't see why the make command doesn't work?
Configure didn't complete.

checking for GTK... no
configure: error: GTK+-2.8 is required to compile murrine

Look for gtk+-dev package.

[Ek0nomik]

Thanks ButteBlues.

I can't seem to get my Murrine looking as slick as everyone elses.

I think I have it all installed correctly, but I just can't seem to get it looking like it's supposed to.

If you have any ideas I'd strongly appreciate it. I have essentially read this whole thread. ;)

[apelete]

what i meant was, assuming you are wanting to de-uglify Murrine-Brown, don't have Murrine-Brown selected as a theme in gnome-theme-manager whilst you are running murrine-configurator in order to de-uglify Murrina-brown.

It still doesn't work... I'm getting upset with this, I think I'll wait for the next murrine-engine release, perhaps there will be some improvement.

[Cimi86]

Thanks ButteBlues.

I can't seem to get my Murrine looking as slick as everyone elses.
[...]

I think I have it all installed correctly, but I just can't seem to get it looking like it's supposed to.

If you have any ideas I'd strongly appreciate it. I have essentially read this whole thread. ;)

What is looking wrong? :|
It seems ok Here

[Ek0nomik]

Thanks for the response Cimii. I am new to the Linux community, but I have a bit under my belt.

http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=53836

I wanted mine to look similar to that. I don't like the big icons for closing, maximizing and minimizing. Is that strictly based in the Metacity theme I pick?

If you look at the second picture in that link I listed, you can see something called The Widget Factory. Is looks like you can customize certain things with that. That is different from your Murrine Configurator, yes?

Thanks for the help!

[Cimi86]

Thanks for the response Cimii. I am new to the Linux community, but I have a bit under my belt.

http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=53836

I wanted mine to look similar to that. I don't like the big icons for closing, maximizing and minimizing. Is that strictly based in the Metacity theme I pick?

If you look at the second picture in that link I listed, you can see something called The Widget Factory. Is looks like you can customize certain things with that. That is different from your Murrine Configurator, yes?

Thanks for the help!
the buttons of the metacity theme depends on the fonts you've chose, so if you use smaller fonts you'll get smaller titlebar

The widget factory is not a tool for configure but a tool to preview all buttons scrollbars etc etc, so it is used by themers to preview their works

[Ek0nomik]

Oh wow, thanks a lot Cimi. Much appreciated. :)

[desperado666]

http://murrine.netsons.org/?q=node/8/release

A new murrine configurator with a preview function.

[ComplexNumber]

http://murrine.netsons.org/?q=node/8/release

A new murrine configurator with a preview function.
the only problem with the "New" one is that it doesn't cater for people who have their themes stored in /usr/share/themes. i have to copy all my murrine themes from that location to .themes to use the new configurator, then move them back again once they've been changed. not realy much to moan about, but it would i would be curious to find out why this is so.

[ChaKy]

the only problem with the "New" one is that it doesn't cater for people who have their themes stored in /usr/share/themes. i have to copy all my murrine themes from that location to .themes to use the new configurator, then move them back again once they've been changed. not realy much to moan about, but it would i would be curious to find out why this is so.

You do not have to do that. You can just make a sim link in you $HOME directory, like this:

sudo ln -s /usr/share/themes .themes

[ComplexNumber]

You do not have to do that. You can just make a sim link in you $HOME directory, like this:

sudo ln -s /usr/share/themes .themes
that wouldn't work. you've forgotten about the fact that the themes still can't be written to.

[ChaKy]

that wouldn't work. you've forgotten about the fact that the themes still can't be written to.

Yes, that's true. But you can use "sudo" command to start newmurrineconfigurator from terminal. It's a little bit easier than moving the themes from /usr/share/themes to .themes and back after editing.

[bvc]

I don't like the big icons for closing, maximizing and minimizing. Is that strictly based in the Metacity theme I pick?in the metacity-theme-1.xml, right about line 141 you'll see<constant name="ButtonPad" value="7"/>change 7 to 8<constant name="ButtonPad" value="8"/>save and reset theme. Or whatever value.....

[Ek0nomik]

Changing the font size is what fixed it for me. I probably could have done that too.

Thanks for the info, I will try that next time though.

Cheers!

[quail-linux]

Hi All,

I have been busy with other projects and have not done a lot with murrine, but today I have backported the 0.41 version of murrine from the feisty repository.

you can find the package here: http://southernvaleslug.org/modules/mydownloads/

[zerwas]

The server is down: malteo.homelinux.net

[Ek0nomik]

The server is down: malteo.homelinux.net

You can install via source.

[squidmaster]

i thought I installed 2.10.9 (GTK+) but I guess not...
checking for GTK... no
configure: error: GTK+-2.8 is required to compile murrine


I downloaded 2.10.9 and ran what I thought would install.
./configure --prefix=/opt/gtk

what else do I need to do?

[Ek0nomik]

i thought I installed 2.10.9 (GTK+) but I guess not...


I downloaded 2.10.9 and ran what I thought would install.

what else do I need to do?

Did you install libgtk2.0-dev?

[squidmaster]

Did you install libgtk2.0-dev?

lol that might help.... man I feel like a tard now.
im installing that right now so let's see how it goes.

[squidmaster]

ok so I installed the libtiff
went through the installing process of GTK+-2.10.9 again
installed murrine engine again.
still
nothing
i just get a blue version of what ever metacity theme I had in use....

[Ek0nomik]

ok so I installed the libtiff
went through the installing process of GTK+-2.10.9 again
installed murrine engine again.
still
nothing
i just get a blue version of what ever metacity theme I had in use....

Have you gone into Theme/Theme Details, and than chosen your downloaded Controls, Window Borders, and Icons?

[ButteBlues]

ok so I installed the libtiff
went through the installing process of GTK+-2.10.9 again
installed murrine engine again.
still
nothing
i just get a blue version of what ever metacity theme I had in use....
Did you select a Murrina theme?

[raul_]

I can use some murrine themes but the ones i want, i can't =\ i tried for example the Eternal Blue theme, mentioned in this thread, it appears in the list (i'm using xfce) but when i choose it, it just reverts to the horrible default gtk theme

[kpolice]

You probably don't have the latest Murrine engine - v0.51 , it is needed for the Eternal Blue theme that btw I did :p

[raul_]

Yeap, that was it...stupid issue :(

Thanks for the tip :)

[Bastanteroma]

Anyone know if it's possible to remove the blue line that appeared on the left edge of the menus in .51? And if it is, how? ;-)

[ButteBlues]

Anyone know if it's possible to remove the blue line that appeared on the left edge of the menus in .51? And if it is, how? ;-)
Use the MurrinaConfigurator.

[Bastanteroma]

There doesn't seem to be a related option in the Configurator .5. Maybe I'm missing it?

EDIT I was using an older version of the configurator.

[ButteBlues]

There doesn't seem to be a related option in the Configurator .5. Maybe I'm missing it?
Vertical Bar in Menus

[Rexbron!]

For any who don't know, Murrine-0.51 is uploaded and in the universe. So for any fiesty users, its just an update, upgrade away.

[bvc]

Vertical Bar in MenusI don't have that

[FuturePilot]

Vertical Bar in Menus

These are looking great. A nice little touch.:)

[hizaguchi]

Use the MurrinaConfigurator.

Anybody know the gtkrc option to eliminate those vertical lines? They're kinda annoying, but not enough that I want to compile the configurator. :)

[ComplexNumber]

Anybody know the gtkrc option to eliminate those vertical lines? They're kinda annoying, but not enough that I want to compile the configurator. :)
vertical lines where? its actually quite self explanatory if you have a look in the gtkrc. as an example, this is the section that you will need to change in murrina-purple:
engine "murrine"
{
scrollbarstyle = 0 # Enable or disable circles, stripes, handles
menuitemstyle = 1 # 0 = flat, 1 = glassy, 2
listviewstyle = 0 # 0 = nothing, 1 = dotted
scrollbar_color = "#cca6ff"
contrast = 1.0
glazestyle = 0 # 0 = flat hilight, 1 = curved hilight, 2 = concave style, 3 = top curved hilight, 4 = beryl style
menubarstyle = 1 # 0 = flat, 1 = glassy, 2 = gradient, 3 = striped
menubaritemstyle = 1 # 0 = menuitem look, 1 = button look
listviewheaderstyle = 0 # 0 = flat, 1 = glassy, 2 = raised
roundness = 1 # 0 = squared, 1 = old default, more will increase roundness
animation = TRUE # FALSE = disabled, TRUE = enabled
}

[bvc]

vertical lines where? its actually quite self explanatory if you have a look in the gtkrc. as an example, this is the section that you will need to change in murrina-purple:
engine "murrine"
{
scrollbarstyle = 0 # Enable or disable circles, stripes, handles
menuitemstyle = 1 # 0 = flat, 1 = glassy, 2
listviewstyle = 0 # 0 = nothing, 1 = dotted
scrollbar_color = "#cca6ff"
contrast = 1.0
glazestyle = 0 # 0 = flat hilight, 1 = curved hilight, 2 = concave style, 3 = top curved hilight, 4 = beryl style
menubarstyle = 1 # 0 = flat, 1 = glassy, 2 = gradient, 3 = striped
menubaritemstyle = 1 # 0 = menuitem look, 1 = button look
listviewheaderstyle = 0 # 0 = flat, 1 = glassy, 2 = raised
roundness = 1 # 0 = squared, 1 = old default, more will increase roundness
animation = TRUE # FALSE = disabled, TRUE = enabled
}

on the left side of the menu, like in the candido engine, there is a vertical line. It's in my themes, but not listed in my options or yours above. It's not in the latest configuator 0.5 either. Someone said it is but........
I don't even know what this New Murrine Configurator 1.4 thing is......I installed it and still get 0.5.

[ComplexNumber]

I don't even know what this New Murrine Configurator 1.4 thing is......I installed it and still get 0.5.it appears that the "new" configurator is updated for the latest murrina. the last murrina-configurator written by cimi was 0.5, and that doesn't cover the latest murrina. the new murrina configurator is written by a different author.
i'm not entirely sure what you mean when you say "....and still get 0.5".

[Yuzem]

Hello, I have some questions to ask:
1_How can I control the list header size?
2_How can I make the arrows (look the attachment) in one single color, no borders?
3_Is there any documentation about how to make gnome themes?

Thanks!

[bvc]

menustyle = 1for the vertical bar in menu
menustyle = 0for no vertical bar in menu

[hizaguchi]

menustyle = 1for the vertical bar in menu
menustyle = 0for no vertical bar in menu

^ Thanks! That's not nearly as "self explanatory" to me as it must be to ComplexNumber. :rolleyes:

[ComplexNumber]

^ Thanks! That's not nearly as "self explanatory" to me as it must be to ComplexNumber. :rolleyes:
well, we can't all have your intricate powers of description :rolleyes:.
i'll remember that comment for in the future.

[Stalafin]

Hello everyone,
I recently installed the GTK2-Murrine Engine using the precompiled .deb-Package you can find on gnome-look.org: Murrine Engine (http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Murrine+GTK2+Engine+for+Ubuntu+Edgy?content=45442)

After testing various themes, Murrina BlueGrey (http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Murrina-BlueGrey?content=52709), Murinna DuOEte (http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/%E2%98%85+Murrina+DuOEte?content=54250), and Murrina Cobalt (http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Murrina+Cobalt?content=53836), my impression is that the Murrine Engine is rather slow (with the last theme being rendered for the longest amount of time).
This is no problem when running Firefox, but when it comes to using Inkscape or OpenOffice it takes like forever to render the User Interfaces. With Inkscape it takes like forever to zoom into an object.
When toogling between for example Firefox and Inkscape it takes some time to render Inkscape's view, too.
Additionally, when dragging around the windows I experience a "smearing".

Right now I am using the standard Ubuntu-theme and all of the issues above are no problem.
Everything runs properly, even 3D-applications, so badly installed hardware shouldn't be the problem.

Nonetheless I wil provide you with my most importnat system specs:
AMD X2 3800+
2048 MB RAM
7600 GT


What could be the matter with that? Any ideas? Maybe someone can try to install the above-mentioned .deb-package, maybe it's defective.

[DizzyTech]

Have you done this tests before or after restarting X (Ctrl+Alt+Backspace)? Everything worked ten times better then, and that's on my 512 MB Ram with my approx. 1.5 GhZ processor.

Note that I used TuxFamily's super repos, with the following lines, and installed the theme with Synaptic. To use it, add the following lines to your sources.list:

#TuxFamily's super Repos
deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb edgy 3v1n0
deb-src http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb edgy 3v1n0


I hope (and heard) that Murrine will be easier to get i n FEsity: a dedicated, Ubuntu-supported package.

[FuturePilot]

I hope (and heard) that Murrine will be easier to get i n FEsity: a dedicated, Ubuntu-supported package.

It's in the repos by default in Feisty
Just a simple
sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-murrine

[hizaguchi]

well, we can't all have your intricate powers of description :rolleyes:.
i'll remember that comment for in the future.

It was a nicer way of saying that you made an *** of yourself with your "actually quite self explanatory" attitude. I appreciate helpful people, even if they're wrong. But when you talk down to people while you're being wrong, you just come across as a jackass. It's constructive criticism. Don't just remember it; learn from it.

</derail>

[aboe]

I hope (and heard) that Murrine will be easier to get i n FEsity: a dedicated, Ubuntu-supported package.


Murrine engine is in feisty already, so installing, will be like :

sudo apt-get install gtk2-engine-murrine

:) yes, and I too really like the murrine engine.

[ComplexNumber]

It was a nicer way of saying that you made an *** of yourself with your "actually quite self explanatory" attitude. I appreciate helpful people, even if they're wrong. But when you talk down to people while you're being wrong, you just come across as a jackass. It's constructive criticism. Don't just remember it; learn from it.

</derail>
i'm not paid or obliged to help anyone, but when one has to give a solution based on something as utterly vague as "Anybody know the gtkrc option to eliminate those vertical lines?" without any reference to anything whatsoever, and gives the following (rude) comment when someone tries to help, what do you expect?
Originally Posted by hizaguchi
That's not nearly as "self explanatory" to me as it must be to ComplexNumber. :rolleyes:considering the fact that you gave virtually nothing to go on, i know for a fact that what was in the section of code would almost certainly cover the solution to your problem. the code was also fully commented.
and were you grateful that i made the effort? anything but, it seems.
and now you claim that i'm the one talking down to another.

like i say, i'll remember those who are ungrateful of any help.

[Yuzem]

Hello, I have some questions to ask:
1_How can I control the list header size?
2_How can I make the arrows (look the attachment) in one single color, no borders?
3_Is there any documentation about how to make gnome themes?

Thanks!

One bump, then I will ask somewhere else.
Thanks.

[ComplexNumber]

One bump, then I will ask somewhere else.
Thanks.
unfortunately, i only know for definite about point 3. here are some useful link for theming:
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials/

here is a link that i use to look up the various widgets:
http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/gtk/

[_Zardoz_]

Here it is a deb package for dapper created with checkinstall

[Yuzem]

unfortunately, i only know for definite about point 3. here are some useful link for theming:
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials/

here is a link that i use to look up the various widgets:
http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/gtk/

Something is something.
Thanks.

[swj]

Will feisty have murrine .51 when the beta is released, or how does that work?

* I realize .51 debs have been made...

Thanks,

[apelete]

Thanks a lot Zardoz, I can now benefit from the new Murrine-engine improvements !!!

[quail-linux]

Hi All,

anyone that is interested in murrine 0.51 for Edgy i have done a backport of it from the Feisty repository
you can find the package here: http://southernvaleslug.org/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=1&orderby=dateD

Enjoy

[Ek0nomik]

Hi All,

anyone that is interested in murrine 0.51 for Edgy i have done a backport of it from the Feisty repository
you can find the package here: http://southernvaleslug.org/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=1&orderby=dateD

Enjoy

Thanks!

[Cimi86]

0.52, a bug fix release (fixed an annoying bug) is released.
No new features, but upgrade reccomended (expecially if you use compiz/beryl)

[ButteBlues]

Do you know if it'll make Feisty?

[quail-linux]

Do you know if it'll make Feisty?

well it not there atm.

but for the time being if you want murrine 0.51 for Edgy, i have done a backport of it from the Feisty repository.
you can find the package here: http://southernvaleslug.org/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=1&orderby=dateD

Enjoy

[Frédéric Perrin]

0.52, a bug fix release (fixed an annoying bug) is released.
No new features, but upgrade reccomended (expecially if you use compiz/beryl)



On Gnome-Look, you say :
* Fixed "black hilight bug": just one line of code changed from 0.51 but necessary to fix a lot of drawing mistakes, upgrade suggested

Can you elaborate a bit ?
What widgets is this bug visible on ?
Will we need to modify .gtkrc's ?

[Cimi86]

On Gnome-Look, you say :


Can you elaborate a bit ?
What widgets is this bug visible on ?
Will we need to modify .gtkrc's ?
Steps to reproduce on 0.51:
Activate compiz/beryl
close all gnome-terminal session
launch a new gnome-terminal
menu-->edit current profile
change font
Bug: now you will see black scrollbars on the font selector.

That bug was caused since i've forgotten to copy hilight_ratio from the "style reading part" to the "drawing part" in murrine source code, so sometimes it loses that gtkrc parameter and hilight_ratio become a null value ---> black hilight.

[apelete]

So no need to update if one doesn't use Beryl/Compiz ?

[Cimi86]

So no need to update if one doesn't use Beryl/Compiz ?
0.51 is buggy, that's enough to suggest an upgrade. Yes i haven't noticed that bug without beryl/compiz, but this is because we are lucky ;). As I explained before the import of "hilight_ratio" is brokern in 0.51 so sometimes a null could arrive to broke our application look! :popcorn:

[Rexbron!]

I am trying to get version 0.52 UFVe'd for fiesty.

[Cimi86]

I am trying to get version 0.52 UFVe'd for fiesty.
should be better because it contains only bugfixes... even few notifications on wnck applet have this bug, and sometimes teminal runs with black hilights... so that upgrade is reccomended...

I repeat, no new features where added, but an annoying bug was totally removed addind just a line, so i hope ubuntu motu will not stop you (feature freeze != bug freeze :D)

[ComplexNumber]

Cimi86
hi Cimi. do you have a 'roadmap' regarding murrina and candido engine? what i mean is, do you have a plan as to what additional features are to be added in the future?

i think both of those engines are great! keep up the good work.

[Cimi86]

My "todo" list is based on ideas i have. At the moment nearly nothing... I just like to ask a guy to implement a --enable-extra-animations to give a lot of new cool animations.
Just an idea... nothing reguarding the style atm.

[ComplexNumber]

murrina seems to have lots of changes done with it. i haven't seen any candido changes for a while.

[quail-linux]

Hi All,

anyone that is interested in murrine 0.52 for Edgy i have done a backport of it from the Feisty repository
you can find the package here: http://southernvaleslug.org/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=1&orderby=dateD

Enjoy

[mcmugchu]

Hi all,

Just wonder why there is no theme in Synaptic Package manager when using murrine theme. How to solve this? Thx

[Rexbron!]

Hi all,

Just wonder why there is no theme in Synaptic Package manager when using murrine theme. How to solve this? Thx

If you look, murrine's package name is gtk2-engines-murrine, which is the only package that murrine in it's name IIRC, it is a theme engine, not a theme in itself. There is a Murrine theme avalable from Cimi's website, but if you read the description of the package:

"Murrine" is an Italian word meaning the glass artworks done by Venician glass blowers. They're absolutely wonderful and colorful. Murrine has this object to provide the ability to make your desktop look like a "Murrina", which is the Italian singular of the name "Murrine".
The Engine is cairo-based, and it's very fast compared to clearlooks-cairo and ubuntulooks (30% faster and more), since the code has been optimised and a lot of slow gradients were removed to provide this unique style.
Project Homepage: http://cimi.netsons.org/pages/murrine.php
NOTE: This is the engine only. Themes must be installed to ~/.themes/.

[mcmugchu]

If you look, murrine's package name is gtk2-engines-murrine, which is the only package that murrine in it's name IIRC, it is a theme engine, not a theme in itself. There is a Murrine theme avalable from Cimi's website, but if you read the description of the package:

may be my words are misleading I meant there is no any theme effect applied on synpatic packpage manager only. I've tried a few themes for murrine already. thx

[raul_]

That's because you run synaptic as root, and your theme is set to user. What you can do is copy the content of your ~/.themes folder to /root/.themes

That should do it

[kpolice]

or you can do a symlink or extract your themes to /usr/share/themes

[Schalken]

Yes. Install themes system-wide by placing them in /usr/share/themes rather than ~/.themes; this will alllow apps run as root adn as other users to use the theme.

[gannina]

I am having a hell of a time trying to figure out how to get this to work. I have compiled the contents of a Murrine-0.52.tar.bz2 file (Is this the theme???), but I can't find it anywhere..., so I'm not even sure what the compile step created and where it was put. I also installed Murrine-Configurator, but it can't detect the thing I compiled automatically, so I'm not sure how to find it. Any help is appreciated, thanks.

[getaceres]

No. Murrine-0.52.tar.bz2 is only the engine. You need to install themes from another site like the ones in:

http://cimi.netsons.org/pages/murrine/themes.php

or looking in gnome-look for 'murrina', you will find a lot of themes.
These are the ones you have to extract to ~/.themes or /usr/share/themes and the ones you can configure.

[padmanabh]

I can't seem to download this engine or theme from any of the sites...r they down temporarily?

[quail-linux]

I can't seem to download this engine or theme from any of the sites...r they down temporarily?

Hi,

you can download the Edgy deb package from here:
http://southernvaleslug.org/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=1&orderby=titleD

Enjoy

[D--]

Is there anything that can be done to make GTK 1.0 apps a little less ugly when using Murrine? I'm running Xubuntu, and opening Synaptic or the system updater looks a little scary :(

[quail-linux]

Is there anything that can be done to make GTK 1.0 apps a little less ugly when using Murrine? I'm running Xubuntu, and opening Synaptic or the system updater looks a little scary :(

If you read through this thread you will find the answer to your question, as it has been asked and answered few times before.

iirc you will find the answer a couple pages back as it has not long ago been asked and answered.

[_Zardoz_]

Murrine 0.52 debian package for dapper, click the attachment

[freewill07]

Awsome!!!

[padmanabh]

OK...I downloaded the stuff and extracted some themes in .themes directory...so how do I apply These now?

I cant see the themes in Gnome theme selection...I can see them in Murrine Configurator but cant seem to figure out how to apply them...:(

[quail-linux]

OK...I downloaded the stuff and extracted some themes in .themes directory...so how do I apply These now?

I cant see the themes in Gnome theme selection...I can see them in Murrine Configurator but cant seem to figure out how to apply them...:(

you select the theme you want in the Gnome Theme menu, under System ---> Preferences ---> Theme

Once you have the Theme Preferences window open click on the Theme Details button.

Under the Controls tab you will find the murrine themes you installed and select the theme you want.

HTH

[Bastanteroma]

Anyone know how to change the color of the progress bar? I've poked around the gtkrc and asked here once before, but no dice.

[ComplexNumber]

Anyone know how to change the color of the progress bar? I've poked around the gtkrc and asked here once before, but no dice.
which particular theme?

[Bastanteroma]

I'd love to change this one:
http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Industrialler+Murrina?content=53849

[ComplexNumber]

I'd love to change this one:
http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Industrialler+Murrina?content=53849
change the first block of code that is found in that theme to the one after it, and uncomment the line that does what you want, and then change the colour to the one that you want:
style "theme-progressbar" = "theme-wide"
{
xthickness = 1
ythickness = 1
#fg[PRELIGHT] = "#ffffff" #dunno

}style "theme-progressbar" = "theme-wide"
{
xthickness = 1
ythickness = 1

#bg[NORMAL] = "#ff0000" #this colours (in red) the background behind the progressbar

#bg[SELECTED] = "#ff0000" #this colours (in red) the actual progress bar

}

[Paool]

hi

i need help, what should I change in gtkrc to disable this stripe?

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/8615/howen0.jpg

[Frédéric Perrin]

In section «engine "murrine"», add the following :
menustyle = 0 # 1 = draw a left colored border on dropdown menu,
# 0 to disable

[Paool]

thanks! :)

[Bastanteroma]

Did the trick!

Thanks ComplexNumber

[sagara]

I too, am getting the ugly Win98 style buttons and what not. Only on certain themes however. I am using FancyCandy right now, and it looks pretty nice. I decided I didn't like the striped menu bar, so I opened up Murrine Configurator using the "murrine-configurator --themeand started going through the prompts. Everything was good until I got to the listviewheaders option. I left the option the same, and went on to the next step. However, upon doing so, it changed the controls to the hideous Win98 buttons. In the terminal, it gave me this output:

and repeats it when I got to the next step. So I wind up with this:

I've attached before and after screenshots. It seems like there are several people who have this same problem (Win98 buttons), and none of us have gotten a definite resolution. Hopefully this helps.

Before:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/tyeracj41/Screenshot-2.png

After:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/tyeracj41/Screenshot-1.png


I have a simimilar problem as him. I installed a murrina theme and it was working nicely. Then after installing the murrina configurator, running it and changing some settings of the murrina theme it destroyed it and made it look like win98 too :(

Even after removing the theme, reinstalling or installing other murrina themes, they all load messed up.

I get this error:
unexpected identifier `scrollbarstyle', expected character `}'

I guess if I hadn't installed the configurator it will still be working. Is there anyway to undo whatever setup change the configurator did?

[ComplexNumber]

sagara
if you post the changed gtkrc file, i will have a look at it for you.

btw where have you got your themes installed - ~/.themes or /usr/share/themes?


Is there anyway to undo whatever setup change the configurator did?
just download the themes again from gnome-look.

[sagara]

ComplexNumber thanks a lot for your help!

I have my themes installed in ~/.themes , all I do is drag the .gz files to the themes window.

# Ignore the colour descriptions in the comments - they're wrong.
style "clearlooks-default"
{
GtkButton ::default_border = { 0, 0, 0, 0 }
GtkRange ::trough_border = 0
GtkPaned ::handle_size = 6
GtkRange ::slider_width = 15
GtkRange ::stepper_size = 15

GtkScrollbar ::min_slider_length = 30
GtkCheckButton ::indicator_size = 14
GtkMenuBar ::internal-padding = 0
GtkTreeView ::expander_size = 14
GtkExpander ::expander_size = 16
GtkScale ::slider-length = 27
#GtkToolbar ::button-relief = GTK_RELIEF_NORMAL
#GtkMenuBar ::shadow-type = GTK_SHADOW_OUT
#GtkScrollbar ::has-forward-stepper = 0
#GtkScrollbar ::has-backward-stepper = 0
#GtkScrollbar ::has-secondary-backward-stepper = 1

xthickness = 1
ythickness = 1

fg[NORMAL] = "#000000" # black
fg[PRELIGHT] = "#000000" # black
fg[SELECTED] = "#ffffff" # white
fg[ACTIVE] = "#000000" # black
fg[INSENSITIVE] = "#a0a0a0" # dark beige

#bg[NORMAL] = "#e8e5de" # light beige
bg[NORMAL] = "#e6e6e6"
bg[PRELIGHT] = "#e6e6e6" # very light beige
bg[SELECTED] = "#d3e9fd" # deepsky
bg[INSENSITIVE] = "#e6e6e6" # beige
bg[ACTIVE] = "#e6e6e6" #"#d7d3ca" # dark beige

base[NORMAL] = "#ffffff" # white
base[PRELIGHT] = "#e6e6e6" # dark beige
base[ACTIVE] = "#92a8ba" # darker deepsky
base[SELECTED] = "#72889a" # deepsky
base[INSENSITIVE] = "#e6e6e6" # beige

text[NORMAL] = "#000000" # black
text[PRELIGHT] = "#000000" # black
text[ACTIVE] = "#ffffff" # white
text[SELECTED] = "#ffffff" # white
text[INSENSITIVE] = "#808080" # dark beige


engine "murrine"
{
scrollbarstyle = 2 # Enable or disable circles, stripes, handles
listviewstyle = 0 # 0 = nothing, 1 = dotted
scrollbar_color = "#d8d8d8" #"#5c8de6" #"#3f70c9" #"#efebe7" #"#e6b78a"
contrast = 1.0
menuitemstyle = 0 # 0 = flat, 1 = glassy, 2 = striped
glazestyle = 0 # 0 = flat hilight, 1 = curved hilight, 2 = concave style, 3 = top curved hilight, 4 = beryl style
menubarstyle = 2 # 0 = flat, 1 = glassy, 2 = gradient, 3 = striped
menubaritemstyle = 0 # 0 = menuitem look, 1 = button look
listviewheaderstyle = 0 # 0 = flat, 1 = glassy, 2 = raised
roundness = 4 # 0 = squared, 1 = old default, more will increase roundness
animation = TRUE # FALSE = disabled, TRUE = enabled
hilight_ratio = 0.97
gradients = FALSE
menustyle = 0
}
}


style "clearlooks-wide" = "clearlooks-default"
{
xthickness = 2
ythickness = 2
}

style "clearlooks-wider" = "clearlooks-default"
{
xthickness = 3
ythickness = 3
}

style "clearlooks-button" = "clearlooks-wider"
{
# bg[NORMAL] = "#f6f4f1"
bg[NORMAL] = "#e2e2e2"
bg[INSENSITIVE] = "#e2e2e2"
bg[PRELIGHT] = "#bce4fa"
bg[ACTIVE] = "#bfcbd3"
}

style "clearlooks-notebook" = "clearlooks-wide"
{
bg[NORMAL] = "#ffffff"
bg[INSENSITIVE] = "#ffffff"
bg[SELECTED] = "#ffffff"
}

style "clearlooks-tasklist" = "clearlooks-default"
{
xthickness = 5
ythickness = 3
}

style "clearlooks-menu" = "clearlooks-default"
{
xthickness = 3
ythickness = 2
bg[NORMAL] = "#f5f5f5"
fg[NORMAL] = "#f5f5f5"
text[NORMAL] = "#000000"
}

style "clearlooks-menu-item" = "clearlooks-default"
{
xthickness = 2
ythickness = 3
fg[PRELIGHT] = "#000000"
fg[NORMAL] = "#000000"
text[PRELIGHT] = "#000000"
# bg[SELECTED] = "#35363b" # deepsky
}

style "clearlooks-menubar-item" = "clearlooks-default"
{
xthickness = 2
ythickness = 3
fg[PRELIGHT] = "#000000"
fg[NORMAL] = "#ffffff"
text[PRELIGHT] = "#000000"
# bg[SELECTED] = "#35363b" # deepsky
}

style "clearlooks-menubar"
{
fg[NORMAL] = "#000000"
text[NORMAL] = "#000000"
fg[PRELIGHT] = "#404040"
fg[ACTIVE] = "#404040"
fg[INSENSITIVE] = "#b2b2b2"
text[PRELIGHT] = "#b2b2b2"

xthickness = 1
ythickness = 3
engine "pixmap"
{
image
{
function = BOX
state = NORMAL
file = "Menu-Menubar/menubar.png"
border = { 1, 1, 1, 1 }
stretch = TRUE
}

image
{
function = BOX
state = ACTIVE
file = "Menu-Menubar/menubar.png"
border = { 1, 1, 1, 1 }
stretch = TRUE
}

image
{
function = BOX
state = INSENSITIVE
file = "Menu-Menubar/menubar.png"
border = { 1, 1, 1, 1 }
stretch = TRUE
}

image
{
function = BOX
recolorable = TRUE
state = PRELIGHT
file = "Menu-Menubar/menubar-item.png"

border = { 10, 10, 10, 10 }
stretch = TRUE
}

}
}


style "clearlooks-tree" = "clearlooks-default"
{
xthickness = 2
ythickness = 2
}

style "clearlooks-frame-title" = "clearlooks-default"
{
fg[NORMAL] = "#404040"
}

style "clearlooks-tooltips" = "clearlooks-default"
{
xthickness = 4
ythickness = 4
bg[NORMAL] = { 1.0,1.0,0.75 }
}

style "clearlooks-progressbar" = "clearlooks-wide"
{
xthickness = 1
ythickness = 1
fg[PRELIGHT] = "#ffffff"
bg[SELECTED] = "#008020"
}

style "clearlooks-combo" = "clearlooks-button"
{
}

# widget styles
class "GtkWidget" style "clearlooks-default"
class "GtkButton" style "clearlooks-button"
class "GtkPanelButton" style "clearlooks-menu-item"
class "GtkScale" style "clearlooks-button"
class "GtkCombo" style "clearlooks-button"
class "GtkRange" style "clearlooks-wide"
class "GtkFrame" style "clearlooks-wide"
class "*MenuBar*" style "clearlooks-menubar"
widget_class "*MenuBar.*" style "clearlooks-menubar-item"
class "GtkMenu" style "clearlooks-menu"
widget_class "*GtkMenu.*" style "clearlooks-menu-item"
class "GtkEntry" style "clearlooks-wider"
class "GtkMenuItem" style "clearlooks-menu-item"
class "GtkNotebook" style "clearlooks-notebook"
class "GtkProgressBar" style "clearlooks-progressbar"

# combobox stuff
widget_class "*.GtkComboBox.GtkButton" style "clearlooks-combo"
widget_class "*.GtkCombo.GtkButton" style "clearlooks-combo"
# tooltips stuff
widget_class "*.tooltips.*.GtkToggleButton" style "clearlooks-tasklist"
widget "gtk-tooltips" style "clearlooks-tooltips"

# treeview stuff
widget_class "*.GtkTreeView.GtkButton" style "clearlooks-tree"
widget_class "*.GtkCTree.GtkButton" style "clearlooks-tree"
widget_class "*.GtkList.GtkButton" style "clearlooks-tree"
widget_class "*.GtkCList.GtkButton" style "clearlooks-tree"
widget_class "*.GtkFrame.GtkLabel" style "clearlooks-frame-title"

# notebook stuff
widget_class "*.GtkNotebook.*.GtkEventBox" style "clearlooks-notebook"
widget_class "*.GtkNotebook.*.GtkViewport" style "clearlooks-notebook"

# panel stuff
style "panel"{
bg[NORMAL] = "#404040"# fg[NORMAL] = "#000000" #fdfdfd
text[NORMAL] = "#000000" #tekst nieaktywnych w "dodaj do panelu..."
}

style "panelbuttons"{
xthickness = 3
ythickness = 3
bg[NORMAL] = "#404040"
bg[ACTIVE] = "#282828" #brąz #995021
bg[SELECTED] = "#404040" #CF7643
bg[PRELIGHT] = "#0a3856"

fg[NORMAL] = "#ffffff" #fdfdfd
fg[ACTIVE] = "#ffffff"
fg[PRELIGHT] = "#ffffff"
}

class "*Panel*" style "panel"
widget_class "*Panel*GtkToggleButton" style "panelbuttons"
widget_class "*Panel*Button" style "panelbuttons"
widget_class "*Panel*b*" style "panelbuttons"
widget_class "*GtkMenu.*" style "clearlooks-menu-item"

#################### PANEL BACKGROUND #########################xx

style "panelbg"
{
xthickness = 0
ythickness = 0


bg_pixmap[NORMAL] = "Panel/panel-bg.png"
#bg_pixmap[SELECTED] = "Panel/panel-bg.png"
#bg_pixmap[INSENSITIVE] = "Panel/panel-bg.png"
#bg_pixmap[PRELIGHT] = "Panel/panel-bg.png"

engine "pixmap"
{
image
{
function = HANDLE
recolorable = TRUE
overlay_file = "Handles/handle-v.png"
overlay_stretch = FALSE
orientation = HORIZONTAL
}
image
{
function = HANDLE
recolorable = TRUE
overlay_file = "Handles/handle-h.png"
overlay_stretch = FALSE
orientation = VERTICAL
}
}
}
class "*Panel*" style "panelbg"
class "*notif*" style "panelbg"
class "*Notif*" style "panelbg"
class "*Tray*" style "panelbg"
class "*tray*" style "panelbg"

##################### PANEL BUTTONS ###############################

style "panelbuttons"
{
fg[NORMAL] = "#ffffff" # very dark brown
fg[PRELIGHT] = "#ffffff" # text on buttons (hover)
fg[ACTIVE] = "#ffffff" # text on unfocused tabs
fg[SELECTED] = "#ffffff" # selected text on lists
fg[INSENSITIVE] = "#ffffff" # greyed "unused" text

xthickness = 2
ythickness = 1

GtkWidget::focus_padding = 2

engine "pixmap" {

image
{
function = BOX
recolorable = TRUE
state = NORMAL
file = "Panel/panelbutton1.png"
border = { 3, 3, 3, 3 }
stretch = TRUE
}

image
{
function = BOX
recolorable = TRUE
state = PRELIGHT
file = "Panel/panelbutton2.png"
border = { 3, 3, 3, 3 }
stretch = TRUE
}


image
{
function = BOX
recolorable = TRUE
state = ACTIVE
file = "Panel/panelbutton3.png"
border = { 3, 3, 3, 3 }
stretch = TRUE
}
image
{
function = BOX
recolorable = TRUE
state = INSENSITIVE
file = "Panel/panelbutton2.png"
border = { 3, 3, 3, 3 }
stretch = TRUE
}

}

}


To give you a better feel of my situation this is the theme I'm trying to install

http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/8559/545731qy4.th.jpg (http://img352.imageshack.us/my.php?image=545731qy4.jpg)

and this is how it gets loaded on my system (all murrina themes follow this win98 fate):

http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/9191/screenxv7.th.jpg (http://img373.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenxv7.jpg)

It was working fine until I had to mess with the murrina configurator...

[ComplexNumber]

sagara
what version of murrina-configurator are you using and what is the version of the murrina engine that you're using?

also, what is the name of the murrina theme in that screenshot?

if there is an syntax error in the gtkrc, it can often make the theme look like win98.

[dominicd]

When I run

wget http://malteo.homelinux.net/B54820BC.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -

I get.


--16:00:32-- http://malteo.homelinux.net/B54820BC.gpg
=> `-'
Resolving malteo.homelinux.net... 84.220.197.228
Connecting to malteo.homelinux.net|84.220.197.228|:80... failed: Connection refused.
gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.


I'm quite sure I added the repository to the list correctly. Any ideas?

[sagara]

sagara
what version of murrina-configurator are you using and what is the version of the murrina engine that you're using?

also, what is the name of the murrina theme in that screenshot?

if there is an syntax error in the gtkrc, it can often make the theme look like win98.

ComplexNumber,
My versions are
Murrine engine 0.10 (same as package provided on this thread)
murrina-configurator 0.5

[sagara]

When I run

wget http://malteo.homelinux.net/B54820BC.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -

I get.


--16:00:32-- http://malteo.homelinux.net/B54820BC.gpg
=> `-'
Resolving malteo.homelinux.net... 84.220.197.228
Connecting to malteo.homelinux.net|84.220.197.228|:80... failed: Connection refused.
gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.


I'm quite sure I added the repository to the list correctly. Any ideas?

Server seems to be down. If you want to install the engine use the deb package that is provided in the links given on the next post (#435) by ComplexNumber.

[ComplexNumber]

sagara
just as i thought. you're using the ancient version of murrina configurator. use this (http://murrine.netsons.org/?q=node/8/release) instead. a point of note is that, if you have your murrine themes stored in /usr/share/themes, you will have to move them to ~/.themes, then run murrine configurator, then move them back to /usr/share/themes.


also, you mention that you're using murrina engine version 0.10. isn't that a bit, erm, old...to say the least? if you're using edgy, you should be using version 0.52. you can get in post 413 in this thread. or you can get it from here (http://cimi.netsons.org/pages/murrine/download.php).

good luck.

[sagara]

ComplexNumber
well that would pretty much explain everything... then that means the ubuntu universe repository is carrying the old version too :(

One new question: do I have to remove the previous installation of murrina configurator before installing the new one? If so, how do I do that?

[ComplexNumber]

ComplexNumber
well that would pretty much explain everything... then that means the ubuntu universe repository is carrying the old version too :(

One new question: do I have to remove the previous installation of murrina configurator before installing the new one? If so, how do I do that?
no because it only installs 2 files anyway - libmurrina-so and libmurrina-la. it installs these in /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines.

it will just overwrite these files when it upgrades it. so, no, you don't have to uninstall first. install the deb package rather than bulding it from source..

let me know how you get on.

[sagara]

ComplexNumber, it worked like a charm! :D you have my thanks!!

Do you happen to know on how to edit themes as well?
This theme (http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=54573&forumpage=0) has the option of changing the gnome Application/Places/System icon to a blue background... do you happen to know how to do that?

Once again, thanks!

[ComplexNumber]

ComplexNumber, it worked like a charm! :D you have my thanks!!

Do you happen to know on how to edit themes as well?
This theme (http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=54573&forumpage=0) has the option of changing the gnome Application/Places/System icon to a blue background... do you happen to know how to do that?

Once again, thanks!
glad to help :).

i can change some things in themes, but i'm still learning.
as far as i can see, its not included in the package. i'm not etirely sure why the author included that pic as there is no such instructions or icon of that type included in the theme.

[kpolice]

The answer is on the comments
To set a menu image just add to panel a main menu object, and then in gconf-editor go to /applications/panel/objects/object_0 (number at the end can be diffrent for you), check "use custom icon" option and in "custom icon path" enter your path to image.

To set the panel go to panel properties, set it's size to 28, and as a background this attached image.

[sagara]

thanks kpolice, problem is... where is the image?
It doesnt seem to be in the compressed file itself. That is really my question :confused:

[dominicd]

Thanks guys ^^

[mrgee773]

Hey. I'm new here. I just need to know if murrine will work in Xubuntu. and any suggestions on how to install it would be helpful....

[justin whitaker]

Version .52 seems to be in the repos. I just downloaded the .deb from Ubuntu Packages. I just hope gdebi does the right thing and grabs the deps.

[justin whitaker]

Hey. I'm new here. I just need to know if murrine will work in Xubuntu. and any suggestions on how to install it would be helpful....

It should work. Both XFCE and Gnome use GTK2, so installing the theme engine should allow you to start using murrine themes.

[sandpaperback]

Nevermind. I've answered my own questions. :-)

[skwid]

So how exactly do you install murrine on Feisty?

Thanks

[lazyd2]

So how exactly do you install murrine on Feisty?

Thanks
First enable universe repos and then sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-murrine

[skwid]

I got that far and even installed the Configuration Utility but Can all this be used with Beryl?

[mrgee773]

Thanx for all the help... But I'm still having trouble installing murrine. Can anyone telling exactly how to do it? I'm probably having so much difficulty because I'm new to the Linux world...

[mrgee773]

I believe the repository is old. is there an updated one?

[sagara]

I got that far and even installed the Configuration Utility but Can all this be used with Beryl?

Yes, you can have a murrine theme on your desktop and then have beryl running on top seamlessly.

[sagara]

I believe the repository is old. is there an updated one?

What version of ubuntu are you using?

[mrgee773]

I'm using Ubuntu 6.0

[ComplexNumber]

I'm using Ubuntu 6.0
have a look at this (http://cimi.netsons.org/pages/murrine/download.php).

[zgornel]

Is there any chance that the engine will be available for KDE too ? :guitar:

[ComplexNumber]

Is there any chance that the engine will be available for KDE too ? :guitar:
doubtful. either cimi or someone else would have to port it over.

[Frem]

This screenshot on Cimi's website looks really nice.
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/1959/schermataqy9.th.png (http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/1959/schermataqy9.png)

Could anyone tell me what theme and wallpaper is being used here?

[zgornel]

Theme: MurrineRounded
Icons: NuoveXT
Wallpapers similar you might find on www.gnome-look.org This wallpaper might be 'Aqua Candy Light Blue'

[Frem]

Sorry, should have been more specific. The MurrineRounded Metacity theme does not come with the GTK theme pictured in that screenshot. Would you happen to know where I could obtain it?

Also, the wallpaper is definitely not Aqua Candy Light Blue. ;-)

[ComplexNumber]

Sorry, should have been more specific. The MurrineRounded Metacity theme does not come with the GTK theme pictured in that screenshot. Would you happen to know where I could obtain it?

Also, the wallpaper is definitely not Aqua Candy Light Blue. ;-)
here (http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/MurrineRounded?content=54088) yer go.

[ButteBlues]

That is the Metacity theme - which he already has.

[Cimi86]

The wallpaper is "Aqua Fyre", which can be found on gnomelook.org

Cheers, Cimi

[ComplexNumber]

That is the Metacity theme - which he already has.
apparently not. he said this:
Originally Posted by Frem http://ubuntuforums.org/images/uf/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2595127#post2595127)
Sorry, should have been more specific. The MurrineRounded Metacity theme does not come with the GTK theme pictured in that screenshot. Would you happen to know where I could obtain it?

Also, the wallpaper is definitely not Aqua Candy Light Blue. :wink:

[ButteBlues]

apparently not. he said this:
It is quite clear that the antecedent of "it" is the GTK theme.

[anachronist]

Edit: nevermind.

[movienewbie]

I found this trailer at www.ubuntutribe.com
What do you think?

[TalkJesus]

I am using Ubuntu Feisty and installed your murrine gtk engine via synaptic.
I also installed your new murrina configurator.

one thing that confuses me, is where do I access the "widget" show in this
screenshot?

http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Murrine+GTK2+Engine+for+Ubuntu+Edgy?content=45442

Also, how do I change the menu/titlebar area? Its too flat, small and doesn't real go well with
the rest of the theme. Just a note, I'm using beryl/emerald

What icon theme pack would you recommend, of your taste? I'm using either human or tango now.

[kpolice]

The widget factory
http://www.stellingwerff.com/?page_id=10

[TalkJesus]

Thanks. Perhaps you can help me on this error:

chad@Secured:~/Desktop/thewidgetfactory-0.2.1$ ls
aclocal.m4 config.guess COPYING ltmain.sh NEWS
AUTHORS config.sub depcomp Makefile.am README
autogen.sh configure INSTALL Makefile.in src
ChangeLog configure.ac install-sh missing twf.glade
chad@Secured:~/Desktop/thewidgetfactory-0.2.1$ ./configure
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for gawk... gawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no
checking for gcc... gcc
checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
See `config.log' for more details.

[kpolice]

you have to install the build tools, gtk development libraries.

[quail-linux]

I am using Ubuntu Feisty and installed your murrine gtk engine via synaptic.
I also installed your new murrina configurator.

one thing that confuses me, is where do I access the "widget" show in this
screenshot?

http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Murrine+GTK2+Engine+for+Ubuntu+Edgy?content=45442

Also, how do I change the menu/titlebar area? Its too flat, small and doesn't real go well with
the rest of the theme. Just a note, I'm using beryl/emerald

What icon theme pack would you recommend, of your taste? I'm using either human or tango now.

Hi,

The Widget Factory is in the ubuntu repository

HTH

[TalkJesus]

I installed thewidgetfactory via synaptic, now I can't find where it is in the menu anywhere

[kpolice]

Type in the terminal twf or press alt+f2 and type twf

[ComplexNumber]

the widget factory is very limited in scope. i use gtk tester instead. it provides a much greater display of total widgets. here is a screenshot.

you can get it from here (http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/GTK-Tester?content=35493).

[h0bbe]

I've seen the question been asked before, but I really can't get it working :-(

I'm running Xubuntu Feisty Fawn 7.04 and have installed gtk2-engines-murrine from the repos and put a couple of themes in /usr/share/themes but they won't show up amongst the other themes. What is wrong?

[male81]

"The Future:
MURRINE is going to be STABLE in the next months (1.0?).
I have no many ideas in how to improve the look (it's so complete now...), and now I'm very busy with gnome 2.20 cairo engines/themes.

If you have a specific and cool ideas on how to improve the look I appreciate mail with that topic:
[Murrine Improvement] "name of the improvement"
Please attach a mockup/screenshot if you can.
The more the email is ordered the more I will pay attention to.
(so be simple and clear! also cause my english is poor...)

See you!

Cimi"

[Cimi86]

Since I'm really busy and murrine seems complete to me in the look I think it's better for the moment to fix the style than release bump to 1.0.
It's a marketing decision.

Expect good improvements in gnome 2.20 as I'm actually writing for gnome the cairo engine/themes
I'm also the one who rewrite the default theme of gnome 2.18, which has a lot of improvements in color support and smooth look (compare it with 2.16 to see the big difference)

[kpolice]

You are doing a great job with the gtk-engines, I'm using your svn packages for ArchLinux and I love it :) .

THX

[Cimi86]

You are doing a great job with the gtk-engines, I'm using your svn packages for ArchLinux and I love it :) .

THX

Check out the package I've just uploaded to the repo, I've added a new style for clearlooks, "Gummy".
Probably you won't like it if you like to see a glossy desktop but it's very good as a clearlooks replacement (for its clean style)

[kOna]

I am having a bit of trouble launching the Murrine Configurator, hope you guys can help!

When I click to load the Configurator I get a message saying Follow all steps etc, and then when I click "OK" the main window pops up for about a second and then I get an error which says:"Sorry, you haven't made choices. The software will now exit to prevent mistakes in the gtkrc"

I dont know if this is relevant to this problem but when I click on "Windows" in the Preferences menu, that flashes up then disappears.

Thanks :)

[ComplexNumber]

you need to select a theme in which to configure.

[kOna]

you need to select a theme in which to configure.

I dont get the option to - the main selection window opens and closes straight away, without me even touching anything.

Cheers

[kOna]

I have managed to fix the problem I had - I reinstalled the murrine engine and the configurator loads up just fine now. Although this is raised another problem... when I select the theme I want and then go through all of the options - the theme dosent change, it adopts the colour scheme from the new scheme but the window borders and buttons, etc are all stuck on Human but in a different colour!

Any help appriciated :)

[ComplexNumber]

I have managed to fix the problem I had - I reinstalled the murrine engine and the configurator loads up just fine now. Although this is raised another problem... when I select the theme I want and then go through all of the options - the theme dosent change, it adopts the colour scheme from the new scheme but the window borders and buttons, etc are all stuck on Human but in a different colour!

Any help appriciated :)
its meant to be like that. it merely changes the gtk theme. the metacity window theme stays the same.

[cdiem]

I just wanted to tell you how much I love the MurrinaLoveGray theme. Thank you very much! This theme is a great one.

[FuturePilot]

The repos in the first post do not work anymore. Is there another repo I can use?

[Cimi86]

The repos in the first post do not work anymore. Is there another repo I can use?

ubuntu feisty

[FuturePilot]

Sadly my laptop and Feisty are two things that don't go together.:( I'm using Dapper.

[katana2k]

i was haivng all these horrendous problems with my computer:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=452766

until i realized that a common factor in the crash output was cairo, and i had used nothing but murrine themse for a long time. i switched my theme to clearlooks and i havent gotten any of those crashes yet. any idea why this might be?

im pretty sure im running the latest murrine (0.53) installed from a feisty deb on gnome-look.

[getaceres]

It was a bug in Murrine 0.53. Install Murrine 0.53.1 that is in gnome-look as well.

[TalkJesus]

How do you set a theme to be global throughout all software?

[Miguel]

To talk-jesus, system-preferences-theme affects all GTk programs run by you. To modify the Qt theme, you need some kde configuration package. Also note that GTk apps will look weird if run via gksudo if the theme file is located in $HOME/.themes instead of /usr/share/themes.

Back to topic, since installing gutsy MurrinaNeo doesn't look as it used to anymore. It used to have some light grey sandwiches in the desktop icons to make sure the font was readable, but now I only have a black font without any grey space surrounding it. Any clues? I'm running the murrine engine from the gutsy repos (0.53.1-0ubuntu1).

Oh! and thank you Cimi for a very nice job.

[ComplexNumber]

How do you set a theme to be global throughout all software?
put themes where they can be accessed by all users (including root). ie /usr/share/themes.
if you put your themes in your own home directory, root apps can't access them, so they will have that awful windows 95 look because they are unthemed.

[OzzyFrank]

Hi. I'm so new to Murrine that I only even heard of it a few minutes ago. Got it installed, then managed to install the configurator, and am wondering if Italian buttons are the default, or if I have done something wrong? All the text in the app is in English, but since my Italian isn't that great, I'm just guessing when I click the buttons. Is there something I can do to remedy this, or was it actually a deliberate feature of the design? If it were in French, then I'd KNOW it was deliberate, hehe! Cheers

[What is in a name?]

I don't know if anyone had the same problem I had with some Murrina themes, but the fact is that to set

GtkRange ::slider_width = 0
GtkRange ::stepper_size = 0


Or even just one of those parameters on the Gtkrc file of the theme causes OpenOffice to crash immediately after startup. So, maybe theme devellopers should give attention to that detail.

Otherwise, great engine.

[bashca]

hi there i follow all steps to install murrine engine and i looked for this path System -> Preferences -> i didn't find murrine configure ??

please help

[OzzyFrank]

It will be "New Murrine Configurator" but I doubt you would have missed it, being so close to everything that starts with M. All I can suggest is go to Synaptic and search for "murrine" (and "murrina" if need be) and see if you can install what's needed from there. I know i found stuff that way, but can't remember if that was after expanding my sources list for new repositories or not. Sorry I couldn't be of more help, but I thought I'd dignify your question with a reply. Cheers

[sporkubus]

I installed the engine using Synaptic but how do I install the configurator, and how do I use themes? (Sorry if this is a dumb question, I'm new)

[tehkain]

Murrine(internal development) testing now has translucent RGBA!!!! This is amazing.

http://www.cimitan.com/blog/2007/12/12/gtk-rgba-transparent-widgets-with-the-murrine-engine#comment-2147