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Glanz
April 4th, 2005, 08:11 AM
Now what I would like to see is Ubuntu on these laptops...
Mark..., are you listening????

http://laptop.media.mit.edu/
The MIT Media Lab is launching a new program to develop a $100 laptop—a technology that could revolutionize how we educate the world's children. The idea was announced by Nicholas Negroponte, Lab chairman and co-founder, at the World Economic Forum at Davos, Switzerland in January 2005.

Here Negroponte answers questions on the initiative. (http://laptop.media.mit.edu/)


What is the $100 Laptop, really?
The $100 Laptop will be a Linux-based, full-color, full-screen laptop, which initially is achieved either by rear projecting the image on a flat screen or by using electronic ink (developed at the MIT Media Lab). In addition, it will be rugged, use innovative power (including wind-up), be WiFi- and cell phone-enabled, and have USB ports galore. Its current specifications are: 500MHz, 1GB, 1 Megapixel. The cost of materials for each laptop is estimated to be approximately $90, which includes the display, as well as the processor and memory, and allows for $10 for contingency or profit.

Why not a desktop?
Desktops are cheaper, but mobility is important, especially with regard to taking the computer home at night. Recent work with schools in Maine has shown the huge value of using a laptop across all of one's studies, as well as for play. Bringing the laptop home engages the family. In one Cambodian village where we have been working, there is no electricity, thus the laptop is, among other things, the brightest light source in the home.

How is it possible to get the cost so low?


First, by driving the display cost below $25. We are exploring five different options for this, looking at possibilities such as projected image or roll-to-roll printed display. Projection is the primary candidate at this time, and will bring the cost of an approximately 12" diagonal display to below $20. E-Ink (http://www.eink.com/), invented at the Media Lab, is another option.
Second, we will get the fat out of the systems. Today's laptops have become obese. Two-thirds of their software is used to manage the other third, which mostly does the same functions nine different ways.
Third, we will market the laptops in very large numbers (millions), directly to ministries of education, which can distribute them like textbooks.
Why is it important for each child to have a computer? What's wrong with community-access centers?
One does not think of community pencils—kids have their own. They are tools to think with, sufficiently inexpensive to be used for work and play, drawing, writing, and mathematics. A computer can be the same, but far more powerful. Furthermore, there are many reasons it is important for a child to "own" something—like a football, doll, or book—not the least of which being that these belongings will be well-maintained through love and care.

What about connectivity? Aren't telecommunications services expensive in the developing world?
When these machines pop out of the box, they will make a mesh network of their own, peer-to-peer. This is something initially developed at MIT and the Media Lab. We are also exploring ways to connect them to the backbone of the Internet at very low cost.

What can a $1000 laptop do that the $100 version can't?
Not much. The plan is for the $100 Laptop to do almost everything. What it will not do is store a massive amount of data.

How will these be marketed?
The idea is to distribute the machines through those ministries of education willing to adopt a policy of "one laptop per child." Initial discussions have been held with China, where there are approximately 220 million students (for which an order would drive prices way down). In addition, smaller countries will be selected for beta testing. Initial orders will be limited to a minimum of one million units (with appropriate financing).

When do you anticipate these laptops reaching the market? What do you see as the biggest hurdles?
Our preliminary schedule is to have units ready for shipment by the end of 2006 or early 2007.

The biggest hurdle will be manufacturing 100 million of anything. This is not just a supply-chain problem, but also a design problem. The scale is daunting, but I find myself amazed at what some companies are proposing to us. It feels as though at least half the problems are being solved by mere resolve.

How will this initiative be structured?
The three principals at MIT are faculty members at the Media Lab: Nicholas Negroponte (http://www.media.mit.edu/people/bio_nicholas.html) (a founder of the Lab), Joe Jacobson (http://www.media.mit.edu/people/bio_jacobson.html) (serial entrepreneur and inventor of e-Ink (http://eink.com/)), and Seymour Papert (http://www.media.mit.edu/people/bio_papert.html) (one of the world's leading theorists on child learning).

Four other Media Lab researchers are also involved: Mitchel Resnick (http://www.media.mit.edu/people/bio_mres.html), Tod Machover (http://www.media.mit.edu/people/bio_tod.html), Ted Selker (http://www.media.mit.edu/people/bio_selker.html), and Mike Bove (http://www.media.mit.edu/people/bio_vmb.html).

Organizationally, MIT will host a consortium of a small number of companies of complementary skills to develop a fully working and manufactured laptop (50,000 to 100,000 units) in fewer than 12 months, with an eye on building about 100 million to 200 million units by the following year. Three initial companies who have committed to this project are Google, AMD, and News Corp, and the Lab is in discussion with several others. MIT also expects to work with not-for-profit partners, including the 2B1 Foundation.

Brunellus
April 4th, 2005, 09:09 AM
I heard about this on slashdot. There is already an Indian project to this effect, the Simputer (http://www.simputer.org/) which has begun rolling out in the marketplace.

It has been suggested that the critical technology that could and should be implemented in the developing world is not cheap laptops, but mobile phone networks. The handsets themselves are getting cheaper and cheaper--the only thing that's lacking in some places is the investment in the network infrastructure. The cheap laptop initiative is really talking about possible benefits and new ways of doing things--but the demand for mobile phones already has ready benefits. Farmers know market prices before bringing their crops to market, for instance; and everywhere in the developing world, phones may be hired on a per-minute basis.

Glanz
April 4th, 2005, 09:29 AM
Mobile phone networks are good for adults and the survival of small businesses. But the laptop is a valuable tool for students. This is a great thing for kids and families.

az
April 4th, 2005, 12:57 PM
and business...

jordanau
April 4th, 2005, 01:19 PM
I should do that here in America and sell linux desktops for next to nothing... hmmm... I would make a killing. Of course, I'm to lazy so I will sit back and watch someone else do it...

jdodson
April 4th, 2005, 01:51 PM
i would buy one.

az
April 4th, 2005, 01:55 PM
So you go to the store to buy your child a laptop for school. You can buy one for 800 dollars or buy one for $650.00 that has half the power and features, but will still do the job. The less expensive one is advertised such that it is known they only cost 90$ to manufacture, but for every unit sold, five will be given out to kids in third-world countries.

Which would you chose?

Humanity towards others makes for terrific marketing.

eldrich_rebello
April 4th, 2005, 02:19 PM
nice.would really help in the penetration of technology in the backward areas of India here.but,i think--even a hundred dollars that's like 5000 rupees (anyday) would be too much for some.nice philosophy behind the project though

murkin
September 29th, 2005, 09:38 AM
This looks to be a terrific idea. Apparently Red Hat is in on this (along with Google and others). I wonder if the Edubuntu project has any interest.

Anyway, eldrich mentioned that $100 is still too expensive for many of the world's poor and this is definitely the case; however, the objective of this project is to get government's on board. Is a $100 dollar investment per child unreasonable? Perhaps...

The link below mentions that Brazil, China, Egypt, Thailand, and South Africa will be buying the first units. I also read on Cnet that the plan is to possibly sell the unit for double the price here in the states with the understanding that the profit is thrown back into the One Laptop Per Child Project. Massachusetts has signed on to buy 500,000 for students in the state's public schools.

I love seeing this kind of innovation and progress! :)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/2/hi/technology/4292854.stm

newbie2
September 29th, 2005, 11:43 AM
"All we can do is seed the change and, like Wikipedia grew, and like Linux grew, do the same for open source education," he said.
http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2142974/100-laptop-poor-kids

newbie2
September 29th, 2005, 11:44 AM
"For example, to keep the $100 laptops from being widely stolen or sold off in poor countries, he expects to make them so pervasive in schools and so distinctive in design that it would be "socially a stigma to be carrying one if you are not a student or a teacher." He compared it to filching a mail truck or taking something from a church: Everyone would know where it came from."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050929/ap_on_hi_te/hundred_dollar_laptop;_ylt=Anp7S6LOh4VZApt1uMn76iO s0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3cjE0b2MwBHNlYwM3Mzg-

Brunellus
September 29th, 2005, 11:46 AM
...but those crimes happen ALL the TIME.

Jesus
September 29th, 2005, 12:01 PM
I searched for this thread as soon as I read the article on /. because I knew I wouldn't be the only person to have the thought that Ubuntu would be the perfect Linux for this project. Mr Shuttleworth, where are you? Stop playing with Python, there are important tasks at hand!
It says on the MIT FAQ (http://laptop.media.mit.edu/) page about these laptops:
Please note: these laptops are not in production. They are not—and will not—be available for purchase by individuals.
However on the CNet story (http://beta.news.com.com/The+100+laptop+moves+closer+to+reality/2100-1044_3-5884683.html) linked from the /. article it says:
Negroponte said MIT is considering licensing the design or giving it to a third-party company to build commercial versions of the PC. "Those might be available for $200, and $20 or $30 will come back to us to make the kids' laptops."
I hope the second quote is the correct one because I for one would love something like this. However I don't think they should license the design; if they're already going to be producing them by the million, why not sell them off themselves? Perhaps they're not interested in profit. That's fine, but how about this: sell them at $200 and put the profit back into manufacture. "For every laptop you purchase, an identical laptop will be given to a child who could not otherwise afford one."

Ubunted
September 29th, 2005, 04:38 PM
http://beta.news.com.com/i/ne/p/2005/928laptop550x413.jpg

http://beta.news.com.com/2300-1044_3-5884639-1.html

i would buy one.
I WANT to buy one.

Hell, I'd pay more than $100 for one of those.

I imagine they're durable as hell too.

Goober
September 29th, 2005, 05:20 PM
Wow. This is a very cool idea. I have read research and stories aver here about testing how kids study with, say, Apple iBooks, one for every kid in the class, and I have seen some impressive results. This is a truly awesome idea. I would buy one of these if I had the chance, especially if some went to charity.

Of course, that is 200USD, which is 230CAD, not including sales taxes.

az
September 29th, 2005, 08:58 PM
From Mako's blog:
http://mako.cc/copyrighteous/2005/Aug

"Many people already know this but I thought I would make a more "public" announcement so everyone knows.

In about two weeks, I'll be leaving Canonical Ltd. to return to academia at the MIT Media Lab. I'll be in Walter Bender's Electronic Publishing research group working with Marvin Minskey and others.

I'll be doing as-yet-undecided research at the lab and I've got a number of very attractive options to choose from or try to balance. One of these is Negroponte's $100 Laptop Project which, for a number of reasons, seems like an incredible opportunity."

Ubunted
September 29th, 2005, 10:18 PM
Please note: these laptops are not in production. They are not—and will not—be available for purchase by individuals.

Damn. That third-party liscencing thing sounds interesting though.

poofyhairguy
September 30th, 2005, 04:39 AM
Sounds nice......if I can put a hard drive in it of some size.

Jesus
September 30th, 2005, 11:24 AM
Sounds nice......if I can put a hard drive in it of some size.
I reckon it would be better to keep a fileserver handy for all your big files.

Now there's a question: with no hard drive, where will the OS live? As firmware on some ROM chip I imagine. Will it be upgradeable? How will apps be installed, if at all? Would it be neccessary to connect to an application server to extend the functionality?

Ubunted
September 30th, 2005, 01:23 PM
I reckon it would be better to keep a fileserver handy for all your big files.

Now there's a question: with no hard drive, where will the OS live? As firmware on some ROM chip I imagine. Will it be upgradeable? How will apps be installed, if at all? Would it be neccessary to connect to an application server to extend the functionality?

I had the impression the entire computer's storage would be handled by the 1GB flash chip. If they're developing a stripped-down Linux to run on only these laptops, they should have more than enough space. These machines sound like they're quite simple and would not require anything nearly as complicated as a fullblown mainstream kernel.

transactionlogfiller
September 30th, 2005, 06:36 PM
I wonder how much power the crank handle generates. It would be hard to type one-handed while powering the laptop with the other.

edited to correct typo.

BWF89
September 30th, 2005, 06:54 PM
They should apply the same concept and produce better models of those to sell in the US and Europe.

az
September 30th, 2005, 08:00 PM
I wonder how much power the crank handle generates. It would be hard to type one-handed while powering the laptop with the other.
edited to correct typo.


I think it works that you wind it up for a minute and have power for a little while to work.

The point is that laptops on the market are pretty-much multi-purpose computers. This would be stripped-down to provide the service for which it was built.