View Full Version : Games under Wine/Cedega that run faster then XP
Somenoob
August 15th, 2006, 08:46 AM
Have you ever gotten a game to run faster under wine or cedega then they would do in XP itself?
Griff
August 15th, 2006, 08:13 PM
That doesn't sound like it should be possible. The only time this might happen is when the drivers on windows are extremely old and the ones on linux are bleeding edge, but still, that's a stretch. Wine/Cedega do their best to simulate a windows environment using their own API to do it. As such, it would seem that they will always play catch-up.
ash211
August 15th, 2006, 09:00 PM
Wine may lag behind windows most of the time in game performance, but in some things it actually performs better. Traditional linux strengths like network and file i/o carry through to wine. If linux's strength in those areas makes up for an imperfect wine simulation, the overall performance can be better.
Check out http://wiki.winehq.org/BenchMark-0.9.5 and the corresponding slashdot article at http://slashdot.org/articles/06/01/31/005202.shtml for more info.
Indras
August 15th, 2006, 09:01 PM
I can think of another instance where Wine would be faster than Windows... nearly every Windows machine I've ever worked on is infested with spyware and viruses. Sometimes it's so bad that the machine is slowed to a crawl. I couldn't even see playing a game on it, but I imagine it would be dead slow compared to a simlarly-equipped linux box.
ash211
August 15th, 2006, 09:11 PM
I bet Somenoob was assuming that he had an uninfected installation of Windows! :D
I_<3_Dapper_Drake
August 15th, 2006, 09:17 PM
UT 1999 runs WAAYYY faster than in Windows if your using Cedega, So does WoW.
Artificial Intelligence
August 16th, 2006, 02:42 AM
Just wait 'till Cedega have done this ready then you'll see speed: http://www.transgaming.com/index.php?module=ContentExpress&file=index&func=display&ceid=8
Mooie
August 16th, 2006, 03:12 AM
I dont really understand what swiftshader is, or how it will spead anything up with cedega. can you please explain this to me?
Artificial Intelligence
August 16th, 2006, 03:24 AM
Well it's a Direct3D 8 and Direct3D 9 compatible API layer, which are much faster than DirectX, the good thing is that it's OpenGL compatible as well, which again in the near future that a lot of Win games will actual run very well on Cedega.
User_Program
August 16th, 2006, 07:40 AM
I cann't say that I've seen any game run faster with Cedega or Wine compaired to MS. Yes they do a good job of it but it's still lacking.
As for Cedega I kinda have mixed feelings about them. Lots of false advertising and lack luster performance at times when they state other wise on there site. I've only upgraded Cedega twice in the passed 3 years. I bought it then canceled and bought it canceled. Guild Wars is the only games I running with it for the time being though runs very nicely but it's not worth the paying $5 a month for a year or 18 months to get a fancy avatar on the cedega forums page :rolleyes: Also I can't help to wonder if it's actually bad for the future of Linux and gaming. On some good notes and this is not to wish bad fortune on Transgaming but I can only hope this will happen. Maybe if Transgaming does well in sales and continues to grow, game developers and publishers will decide to cut the middle man out ;) and start really pushing Linux ports. [-o<
Echo35
August 16th, 2006, 10:48 AM
I was considering buying Cedega ($15 version) on my new gaming PC. Is it really worth it?
User_Program
August 16th, 2006, 11:27 AM
Depends on what games your playing. If the games work with Wine by all means use that! But if there are some games that you want to play that only cedega can handle, you can try it but I kinda felt let down. Though not to much because it was only $15 and I figured what the heck.
I've seen many ppl swear by it though.
There was a demo version of cedega along time ago my guess is they stopped that because it didn't win to many over. Get it "win" ppl over !
OH NO I'm kicking off the bad jokes :)
Mooie
August 16th, 2006, 01:15 PM
I have read that swiftshader is a software renderer, and (not knowing that much about it or any rendering) wouldnt that make games run really slowly? Isn't software rendering much slower than hardware rendering? wouldnt that make some games run a little bit slower?
As I said before, I dont know much about this stuff, and transgamings site didnt really explain it well for me... so any information you could give me about how it will help gaming in linux would be really nice! :D
der_joachim
August 16th, 2006, 01:45 PM
Call of Duty 1 was both faster and more stable in Linux than in Windows, even with my fully pimped KDE. :)
amunimanghi
August 17th, 2006, 02:26 AM
Star Wars Jedi Academy is much smoother and hasn't crashed once since I installed it. On the other hand, it has probably crashed 4-5 times in 2 days on windows. That was a long time ago.
Toxicity999
August 24th, 2006, 09:44 PM
I have no doubts that Wine and Cedega can run things very well... the only problem for me is horrid fgl drivers... reducing my non native gaming experience to a crawl at best....
Caseyjp
August 25th, 2006, 06:50 AM
Transgaming is now more than less officially supporting EVE ONLINE.
While not 'faster' than native XP, the game is very comparable with the nvidia drivers.
ATI is making strides and I've seen reports that with the new ATI drivers users are having success as well.
I AM a cedega subscriber and am damn happy to do so.
http://www.eve-online.com
http://www.transgaming.com
Now that transgaming is working on the cider wrapper in addition to the cedega package, I can see really good things happening as people will not have to boot XP in order to play games, either on OS/x or linux. Freedom to choose is a good thing.
Echo35
August 25th, 2006, 08:52 AM
Thanks to my wonderful experience with ATI, my new PC is getting an nVidia card, and I will only ever buy nVidia cards. I have come to dislike ATI just as much as Windows.
gigasmack
August 25th, 2006, 02:33 PM
Just curious, do newer games generally run faster in Cedega or Wine? I'm currently running WoW in wine and its running ok, just wondering if it would be worth the monthly fee to play in Cedega if the performance was better...
quik77
August 25th, 2006, 04:00 PM
As far as my experience goes seems to have alot to do with drivers and your kernel (may just be me not paying close enough attention but)
With fresh install on a new system (64bit btw, so I did the whole wow on wine 32 bit in 64bit dance) and using the newest nvidia drivers via Automatix (whatever version that was at that time) I had max fps in IF primetime of 25-30...
same hardware newely compiled kernel and latest nvida driver via Envy script max fps same place and situation of 65fps
same settings only changes were the new kernel and new video drivers (also forgot to compile nvida module in so no restricted moduals just vanilla kernel)
either way was faster than Xp abut this was a hardware upgrade before I jumped ship to linux
zzottt
August 25th, 2006, 06:55 PM
I personally find that World of Warcraft works better through wine then it didn running on WinXP
that is the only game I have really made any attempt to play in Ubuntu
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