Sabayon Linux Talk

[ThinkBuntu]

If Kubuntu's set up to perfection, why risk it? I'd look over the Sabayon forums and Wiki thoroughly before going through with this: I always do clean installs, so I'm the wrong one to talk about as far as booting multiple OSes.

[GSF1200S]

If Kubuntu's set up to perfection, why risk it? I'd look over the Sabayon forums and Wiki thoroughly before going through with this: I always do clean installs, so I'm the wrong one to talk about as far as booting multiple OSes.


Well, perfection aside from the black flashes and the freezing when using 3d acceleration. This one thing is enough to annoy me to the point of losing my mind. Bam, flash, woops! Screw you buddy.. hard power down and try again. Ive tried nearly everything, and it still happens, even on an install thats less than a week old.

Ive been told, although I dont know how correct it is, that Gentoo/Sabayon would allow me to fix this, presuming of course I do suffecient research and figure out how to use the tools available. This of course, if it doesnt work perfectly right out of the box. Sabayon seems to have already sorted this issue out, and of course I can recompile the video drivers and OpenGL/AIGLX demanding programs with Portage... As much as I love K/Ubuntu, this freezing crap just sucks. It doesnt matter whether its a game, a screensaver. beryl, or even KDE composite effects- bam- frozen! Just frustrating, as thats what I moved to Linux for- stability and customization...

[HumanAnarchist]

Need some help:

I've installed Sabayon on sdb and got Ubuntu on sda, grub is also on sda. I choose not to install grub during the Sabayon install, since I was worried that it could fsck up the grub install made by Ubuntu.

My question is now: How do i configure grub in Ubuntu so I cold boot from sdb1 into Sabayon?

-ha-

[confused57]

Need some help:

I've installed Sabayon on sdb and got Ubuntu on sda, grub is also on sda. I choose not to install grub during the Sabayon install, since I was worried that it could fsck up the grub install made by Ubuntu.

My question is now: How do i configure grub in Ubuntu so I cold boot from sdb1 into Sabayon?

-ha-
Since you chose not to install grub, you'll probably have to use the symlink method to boot Sabayon:
http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm#Operating_System_Entries_for_Multiple_Boot ing_More_Linux_Systems

I just installed Sabayon 3.3b mini last night, near the beginning of the install there was a option at the bottom of the install screen to check "Advanced..." configuration of grub. Near the end of the install, I was able to select to install grub to Sabayon's root partition, then use configfile to boot Sabayon...the installer incorrectly identified my (hd0) and (hd1) drives, so I had to reconfigure grub.conf root from (hd0,5) to (hd1,5) to get it to boot.

You can also boot up the Sabayon live cd, update the installer, select install, then rescue a broken Sabayon, then reinstall grub to the root partition.

If you happen to accidentally install Sabayon's grub to your mbr, it's easy to restore Ubuntu's grub, using the Ubuntu live cd(or Sabayon's):
http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm#Re-install_Grub_with_Live_CD

I had to do this with an older version of Sabayon I installed, either I missed it or there wasn't an option(probably the former) on the older version...Sabayon's grub installed to the mbr with no option to boot any of the other OS. I used the live cd to install Ubuntu's grub to the mbr & Sabayon's grub to it's root partition.

[dbbolton]

does anyone know where i can download the old sabayon wallpapers (the ones with a yellow/orange flower on a dark red background) ?

[mips]

does anyone know where i can download the old sabayon wallpapers (the ones with a yellow/orange flower on a dark red background) ?

I might be mistaken but they could be available in portage. I saw something to this effect on their forums a while back.

[dbbolton]

I might be mistaken but they could be available in portage. I saw something to this effect on their forums a while back.
i checked on gentoo-portage.com and could find any related packages :/

[ThinkBuntu]

i checked on gentoo-portage.com and could find any related packages :/
I posted this (http://www.sabayonlinux.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7074) a couple months ago. Hope it helps you find your answer. I never did take the time to look myself.

[dbbolton]

I posted this (http://www.sabayonlinux.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7074) a couple months ago. Hope it helps you find your answer. I never did take the time to look myself.
actually, i don't have sabayon installed anymore. my hard drive recently crashed and the only liveCD i could get to install a working sysytem was ubuntu dapper.

[ThinkBuntu]

actually, i don't have sabayon installed anymore. my hard drive recently crashed and the only liveCD i could get to install a working sysytem was ubuntu dapper.
All that in under an hour!

[dbbolton]

All that in under an hour!
just don't ever buy anything from compaq.

luckily i have a /home partition so i didn't lose anything important.

[bmartin]

I once installed Sabayon because I don't like repeating the command-line steps to install Gentoo time and time again. Next time I do it, I'm going to write a script to take care of most of the necessary steps.

Sabayon simply wasn't worth it. On the plus side, the Live CD detected my Broadcom WiFi; everything worked out of the box and all the software I wanted was included on the Live CD. I installed Fluxbox and took it for a spin. There was a lot of software on the computer I didn't want, and for the sake of utilizing the Gentoo nature of the beast, I did an emerge -uD world.

The results were horrendous. There were dozens of packages blocking other packages. I did a minimalist Fluxbox install, yet there were several hundred KDE packages on my system that I simply didn't want. I tried to remove packages to resolve all the dependency problems, but... it's just too much. Building a system from the bottom up is a lot easier than trying to pick apart Sabayon.

I like Gentoo-based systems; I've never managed to break my Portage tree, but I've heard it's disastrous. APT gets cranky every once in a while and I can never seem to compile the things I want on Ubuntu.

I've never had a problem with any specific manufacturer... except that Dell sells some really stupid cases... I usually buy my laptops from HP and Compaq and build my PCs. It's not usually the brand that's the problem, but rather the components. I've owned many hard drives and I've never had one go bad, although I've seen it happen very often. I've never seen a Seagate drive go bad, but I've seen a lot of Maxtors and WDs go bad lately. With the WDs, it's usually a telltale clicking noise as the heads hit against the platter.

[Fitzcarraldo]

^Did you install Sabayon from the Live Mini CD or from the Live DVD (I notice you wrote "Live CD", but wondered whether you were using the generic term)? The Live DVD is indeed crammed full of packages, but the Live Mini CD less so. The amount of hassle doing an emerge -uD world would therefore be less with the Mini. I suppose a lot depends on how old the Live CD/DVD is too: if one did an emerge -uD world immediately after the Live CD or Live DVD was released then there would presumably be a lot less out-of-date packages needing to be updated.

[bmartin]

Ahh, you're right. I used the Live DVD because at the time being, I couldn't download the Live CD for some reason. I actually had to have someone burn me a copy because at the time being, I didn't have a DVD burner. I never felt I needed one, and now that I have one, I've never burned a DVD with it (I've had it for about half a year).

The thing is, I received way too many packages. It was a chore to remove them and there was no option to install anything less than the full bore of bloat. It was all or nothing. The Sabayon team really shouldn't pack it full of conflicting packages, though, you know? Whatever their motives are, it's just a bad practice, especially when they encourage people to perform an emerge --update world. No other distro I've ever used has needed to have a couple hundred dependency problems fixed right from the start. My stage 3 tarballs never complain. I always add a couple hundred packages to my base installs (for any distro) and I've never had a problem.

[Fitzcarraldo]

A package selector is coming with version 3.4 of the distro at the end of this month so, even with the Live DVD, one can select precisely which packages one wants to install to the HDD -- see the screendump below of one of the windows in the new installer:

http://www.sabayonlinux.org/modules/screenshots/files/Sabayon%20Linux%203.4/18.png

One will be able to select package groups and, within each group, which precise packages one wants to install to the HDD from the Live DVD.

Further details can be found on the SL Web site:

http://www.sabayonlinux.org/

[dbbolton]

does anyone know where i can download the old sabayon wallpapers (the ones with a yellow/orange flower on a dark red background) ?
a kind chap on the sabayon forums was kind enough to post these for me.

http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/6019/sabayonlinuxcz0.jpg
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/1381/sabayonlinux321wg6.jpg

[RiazM]

Does anyone know if 3.4 will allow me to choose where grub is installed?

[mips]

Does anyone know if 3.4 will allow me to choose where grub is installed?

Has that not been an option all along ? Could have sworn you could choose.

[napsilan]

Yes you can pick where to install grub (MBR or /boot partition), as long as you check "advanced bootloader options." It's on the screen after the partitioner iirc.

[MeaCulpa]

Just tried Sabayon and happy with it.
To me SL is just a image of "someone else's Gentoo" and I'm slowly tuning it into "my Gentoo"
The Sabayon CD/DVD is quite helpful for a Gentoo user, it simply save time when something bad happens and with a good preparation it can be merged into "your" Gentoo in 3 days-faster than a Gentoo CD/DVD freswh install--You can do nothing while installing gentoo on days but you have a working KDE in 45min and you can do real business while emerging to "your Gentoo"

[mips]

You can do nothing while installing gentoo on days but you have a working KDE in 45min and you can do real business while emerging to "your Gentoo"

Not exactly true. you have options.
1. You can chroot into the new gentoo install from another linux OS.
2. You compile Gentoo, X & fluxbox followed by a few apps like xchat, firefox which is quick. This should be more than enough to make the system useable then compile gnome or kde.

[MeaCulpa]

Not exactly true. you have options.
1. You can chroot into the new gentoo install from another linux OS.
2. You compile Gentoo, X & fluxbox followed by a few apps like xchat, firefox which is quick. This should be more than enough to make the system useable then compile gnome or kde.

Aw...indeed. :)

[n3tfury]

ok, so i tried the live cd and it's smoking fast - even faster than my ubuntu install w/ compiz-fusion (wtf).

i'd like to triple boot w/ this distro (ubuntu,xp (cuz of games), and sabayon). is a triple boot possible?

nevermind, i didn't realize there were so many sub-forums. found what i was looking for.

[handy]

I just xdelta'd from 3.4a to 3.4e to 3.4f, in the hope of escaping the Beagled-Helper's approx' 80% CPU usage (it fluctuates quite quickly from 55 ish% to 80 ish%). It did not work. :-(

Upgrading my system to from 3.4a to 3.4f seems to have been flawless, but there is still that waste of CPU energy happening?

I will pursue this on the Sabayon forums, I'm sure it is a listed bug, & will hopefully be removed in the coming release.

I will post the solution here if I find it.

[mips]

I just xdelta'd from 3.4a to 3.4e to 3.4f, in the hope of escaping the Beagled-Helper's approx' 80% CPU usage (it fluctuates quite quickly from 55 ish% to 80 ish%). It did not work. :-(

Upgrading my system to from 3.4a to 3.4f seems to have been flawless, but there is still that waste of CPU energy happening?

I will pursue this on the Sabayon forums, I'm sure it is a listed bug, & will hopefully be removed in the coming release.

I will post the solution here if I find it.

See http://blog.funtoo.org/ and take it from there.

[handy]

See http://blog.funtoo.org/ and take it from there.

Thanks for the link mips.

I found that what initially looked like a flawless upgrade from 3.4a to 3.4f was in fact a mess underneath, I tried a 2nd upgrade which still had problems, so I did a fresh install of 3.4f which has a problem with my graphics card it would seem, I then tried the 64bit 3.4 mini edition, which was worse. A lot of time has gone in here.

So at the moment I'm in the early stages of a complete Gentoo install using the little 54Mb .iso. A lot more time to go...

I'm prepared to still end up with the graphics card problem, (though I really should be able to get past it) but I will certainly be more familiar with the makings of a Linux kernel based OS.

[Antman]

Sabayon Linux x86/x86_64 1.1 Professional Edition was released.
Details Here:
http://www.sabayonlinux.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=11126

[mindtrick]

I'm now burning 3.4 mini edition CD.

Have a question
What happens if I simply run "emerge world"? I know it would take much time but don't know if it would break the system to an unbootable state.

There's an article on their wiki but it looks rather old.

[NeoLithium]

ok, so I got bored, rearranged all my partitions on my computer and installed Sabayon 3.4
WOW is all I have to say. Installed quick, runs smoothly and since this was a gentoo based install that worked for me; I'm starting to enjoy it a great deal. I used the mini version cause I don't have the patience for a full DVD download, but no biggie, I'll just use emerge and grab what I want.

Also, I'm not usually one for the stock look of a distro, but this is nice, clean and....rarely enough, not ugly. Nice touch, as with many other distros, having it find my NTFS shared partitions and having to do nothing to have read/write access. WOOT. Meh, I'm lazy; but so be it.

[reloadSE]

Hmmm my expirence (which has been a good one) on Sabayon is that gnome works a whole lot better than KDE.... it runs real fast too lol and I've replaced gusty with Sabayon i liked it soo much

[ssivaguhan]

Hello people, I'm relatively new to Sabayon and I had been configuring my ADSL connection with ease in Ubuntu. I tried to find from various sources how to do this in sabayon, but in vain. I have a REALTEK RTL8139 Ethernet Controller. Please help

[handy]

http://www.sabayonlinux.org/forum/index.php?sid=047657046af43f34d1dce6b9e7287aab

http://wiki.sabayonlinux.org/index.php?title=Main_Page

http://forums.gentoo.org/

Better late than never!

[sandysandy]

having installed sabayon recently, i find it quite nice and polished.