View Full Version : Ok, here's the challenge: convince me to change!

July 27th, 2006, 03:19 AM
*Begin obligatory warning*
Just to set the record straight, let me point out that this
is NOT a flame, or trolling. This is a legitimate question, for
which I am expecting some -hopefully- objective answers.

*End obligatory warning*

Here's the scoop: I'm running 64-bit Breezy Badger, with some
tweaks, and a custom kernel. Everything (well, everything within
the limitations of a 64-bit OS) runs beautifully.
I had tried the 32-bit Dapper Drake, specifically the flight 6, on
a separate partition.I upgraded until the release. Now I have to say
that I was disappointed with Dapper; it's certainly not a failure. It
works better than many distros; in my case, the installation went
without a hitch (the text installer. I still have never seen the
gui-based installer. Honestly, I don't feel like I'm missing anything.
The text-based is good), and everything worked. Even XGL/compiz ran
until the xorg 7.0 upgrade. It never worked afterward :mad: But
Dapper has never shown the speed that everybody is raving about.
Even right out of the box my Breezy was just as fast. Then there's
the fact that the 32-bit Dapper used much more memory than my 64-bit
Breezy... [-X
So, bringing this long-winded rant to an end, here's my challenge:
my 64-bit Breezy works like a charm, so is there any real reason to
upgrade to Dapper? The 32-bit version never showed any real improvement
(at least to me, on my machine). What do I stand to gain from the
Keep in mind too that I'm talking about a dist-upgrade; a clean
re-installation is out of the question.

July 27th, 2006, 03:32 AM
umm... Not to be mean or anything, but why would we care?

Anyways onto the topic. If your computer is running great, and you have no problems why mess with it if you don't want to be on the cutting edge? I can see upgrading if there is something in the new version that you would want, but from what you said there is nothing that you could gain so why not just stick with what is working for you. If you keep up to date with patches then your good to go, otherwise if you had issues that you can't solve then I would say upgrade but it sounds as if you don't need it so I'd say not upgrade.

Stormy Eyes
July 27th, 2006, 04:01 AM
umm... Not to be mean or anything, but why would we care?

Indeed. How exactly is this anybody's concern but your own? It's your computer; run whatever you want.

July 27th, 2006, 05:44 AM
You're both right, I should have been clearer.
What I meant to ask was if there is any benefit
to upgrading in the sense of if there is any advantage. Perhaps there is something to be gained
from a switch to Dapper. Right now though, I just
don't see it.
I asked you all to find out if I had overlooked something. It never hurts to get a second opinion.

July 27th, 2006, 05:51 AM
Newer packages...longer support..more community support. Ducks are cuter than badgers.

July 27th, 2006, 05:56 AM
Nicer logout screen.. lol

MORE ram? odd...

Didja try the 64 bit version?

32 is faster for me than 32 breezy...

July 27th, 2006, 09:52 AM
dapper = gnome 2.14 + xorg 7, it's enough for me to update ;)

July 27th, 2006, 11:18 AM
frodon dapper = gnome 2.14 + xorg 7, it's enough for me to update
Actually, xorg 7.0 is a good reason for me to not update. That
update managed to break two debian installations, as well as the dapper
I was running :mad: Of course now I know how to fix it, but that doesn't
make me feel any better.

erikpiper Nicer logout screen.. lol

MORE ram? odd...

Didja try the 64 bit version?

32 is faster for me than 32 breezy...
No, I just have the 32-bit version. So I suppose it's not fair to
compare it to 64-bit Breezy, but I really did expect to see a difference
in speed.
That RAM memory thing is odd to me too; as far as I can tell,
both ran the same processes, so the should be less memory in use.
But it didn't work out that way :-k

July 27th, 2006, 12:02 PM
Edit: sorry didnt read the post before replying.. and who hid the delete post button? hehe

July 27th, 2006, 01:11 PM
Do what you want guy, i don't know why we should convince you, you already have your mind. This is ridiculous

July 27th, 2006, 06:49 PM
If you didn't have an interest in switching, you wouldn't bother asking. So I say go for it, but try the 64-bit version if you haven't already. You are already living with the 64-bit limitations. I think it would probably benefit to switch especially since a lot of the kinks have been worked out since the betas.