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RAV TUX
July 26th, 2006, 04:09 AM
After reviewing the forum members blogs here:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219512

I was wondering which blog host do you prefer, either as a user or which do you find the most pleasing to view?

Also which do you find that gives you the most usability, for yourself and other people who may want to view your blog and leave comments about your post?

Jucato
July 26th, 2006, 04:25 AM
My blog host of choice is Wordpress for some reasons:
1. It's open source: a great plus
2. It will be easy to migrate from the wordpress.com to the wordpress.org once I get my own webhost.

The only thing I don't like about it is the lack of customization features: you can't have your own CSS, you can't make your own theme (AFAIK), no tagboards, etc.

I would have preferred to host my own site/blog, if I had the resources to. :D

Anyway, my opinion of the other services:
1. livejournal - never tried it yet. They say it's very community oriented. But it's not open source. But I'm willing to try it sometime, perhaps.
2. Blogger/Blogspot - very customizable (I like). But again, not open source. I was about to migrate to Blogger, then thought about just sticking to Wordpress for a while until I get a web host.
3. Googlepages: doesn't support Konqueror. Baaad.
4. my.opera.com: never been an Opera user. don't plan on being one
5. Friendster: never liked it (the Friendster service itself). I find it to bloated/congested. And the blog link that you will get is very long.
6. xanga, multiply, etc. Never tried those.

There's another blog service that's not mentioned, probably because it isn't that popular: blogdrive. My sister uses it. I used it once. Didn't really strike me as anything special.

RAV TUX
July 26th, 2006, 04:55 AM
I currently use Multiply I like it because of it's friendly user functions.

It literally starts a forum for every post, picture, song, video you post.

the forums are actually live so you don't have to refresh the page.

It isn't the ultimate I know but it is the only one I have kept up with for any amount of time.

Johnsie
July 26th, 2006, 05:25 AM
I'm writing my own blog hosting solution for muliple users as a hobby. It runs proudly off an Ubuntu server... It's nowhere near as good as those big ones yet but it will be someday (I hope) :-)

I'm trying to look for the best things about each blog host and put them into mine in a structured way. Obviously it's not as easy for me as I dont have a whole team of people working for me.

iI can tell you which solution I dont like and that's myspace. There are some good ideas in there but their servers are very unrelaible and the html has a lot oof errors. Saying that, mines not perfect either but I at least try to meet the W3C standards some of the time :-)

Jucato
July 26th, 2006, 05:39 AM
I currently use Multiply I like it because of it's friendly user functions.

It literally starts a forum for every post, picture, song, video you post.

the forums are actually live so you don't have to refresh the page.

It isn't the ultimate I know but it is the only one I have kept up with for any amount of time.

I've only heard of Multiply.com today, when I put your blog on my blog list. Is your blog the default layout of Multiply? It's not really a "blog" in the traditional sense of the word. More like an easy to use CMS, I think.

Who's running it by the way? The same people as MySpace? (there's a link to MySpace in their front page). Oh, and the Multiply logo looks eerily like MSN's. :p

RAV TUX
July 26th, 2006, 05:52 AM
I've only heard of Multiply.com today, when I put your blog on my blog list. Is your blog the default layout of Multiply? It's not really a "blog" in the traditional sense of the word. More like an easy to use CMS, I think.

Who's running it by the way? The same people as MySpace? (there's a link to MySpace in their front page). Oh, and the Multiply logo looks eerily like MSN's. :p

I think the link which you refer to which I don't see because I use adblock plus on Firefox must be a Google ad.

Actually I disabled adblock plus and I don't see the link your refering to on Multiply's front page:
http://multiply.com/info/about

please let me know what your seeing.

about the people running it:


Multiply Corporate Info


Company Background

Multiply, Inc., based in Boca Raton, Florida, was founded in December 2003. The company launched its flagship web site, Multiply (http://multiply.com) (http://multiply.com%29), in March 2004, effectively defining the new field of social communications. While "social-networking" sites were gaining popularity as an easier way to meet new people, Multiply's founders believed that the most valuable use of having your network of friends and family on-line is to enable communication on a broad scale with the people you already know, either directly or indirectly (through mutual friends, family, and business relationships). With Multiply's proprietary integration of web-publishing and network-based messaging, its users are actively sharing digital photo albums, blogs, restaurant and movie reviews, classifieds and calendar events. More importantly, their content generates lively discussion and active feedback from people they care about - something that is missing with other web-publishing tools. Additionally, with detailed relationship paths and its unique proximity index, Multiply is able to document the connection between the producers of content and the consumers. These explicitly defined relationships and their implicit trust make the content more relevant and entertaining, and provide a comfortable forum for discussion, feedback and solicitation of advice.
Multiply's staff has tremendous experience building highly-scalable, web-based applications. The reliability of our network and preservation of our users' data are top priorities. Also a top priority for Multiply is respecting the privacy of our users. Multiply will never sell or give away any personal information about our users to third parties.


Management Team

Multiply's founders were previously partners of Daedalus World Wide Corporation ("DWWC") which was founded in 1995, and operated some of the first mass-market web sites on the Internet. In 1996, DWWC launched Commissioner.com, a fantasy sports statistics service that was licensed to, and private-labeled or co-branded for: CBS.SportsLine.com, the National Football League, the National Basketball Association, Major League Baseball, CNN/SI, America On-line, Netscape, Excite, the PGA TOUR and others. In December 1999 DWWC was merged into SportsLine.com, Inc., and operated as a wholly-owned subsidiary. In 2004 the DWWC team was inducted into the Fantasy Sports Trade Association Hall of Fame for its influential role in creating the now thriving on-line fantasy sports industry. Having worked together and experienced growth in start-ups through high-profile publicly-traded companies, Multiply's team is well poised for repeat success.

Peter Pezaris, President and Founder
Peter is in charge of all product development and strategic direction of the company. Prior to Multiply, Peter served as CBS SportsLine.com's President of Operations and Product Development where he was responsible for technology and computer operations as well as programming and production. In this role, Peter oversaw the operations of nfl.com, pgatour.com, cbs.sportsline.com, and mvp.com, which serve billions of pages annually to tens of millions of customers. In 2003, Peter was named to the Sports Business Journal's "Forty Under 40" list, which recognizes the most promising young executives in the sports business. Peter joined SportsLine when it acquired DWWC. Prior to DWWC, Peter was a systems and software developer for the investment banking firms of Bankers Trust and Salomon Brothers.
http://pez.multiply.com (http://pez.multiply.com/)

Michael Gersh, Vice President of Sales and Marketing
Michael is in charge of the day-to-day operations of the company including finance and marketing. Before Multiply, Michael was an independent consultant advising technology start-ups on product design and business strategy. His clients included ModeEleven, where he designed the company's Broadcast Screensaver System, a PC Magazine Technical Excellence award finalist in 2003. Michael was an initial founder of DWWC and subsequently served as the General Manager of SportsLine.com's fantasy sports division. Prior to DWWC, Michael was a product manager with Citicorp and a computer programmer for Republic National Bank.
http://michaelg.multiply.com (http://michaelg.multiply.com/)

David Hersh, Vice President of Business Development
David is in charge of project and product management, as well as business development. Prior to Multiply, David was Vice President of Fantasy Sports for SportsLine.com. Before joining SportsLine, David handled business development efforts at DWWC. Prior to DWWC, David worked as a consultant for American Management Systems and as a software developer for IBM.
http://dave.multiply.com (http://dave.multiply.com/)
It is no way related to Myspace in look or feel, The user controls give you very tight control.

Any way with that info I am highly interested in Johnsie's project:


I'm writing my own blog hosting solution for muliple users as a hobby. It runs proudly off an Ubuntu server... It's nowhere near as good as those big ones yet but it will be someday (I hope) :-)

I'm trying to look for the best things about each blog host and put them into mine in a structured way. Obviously it's not as easy for me as I dont have a whole team of people working for me.

iI can tell you which solution I dont like and that's myspace. There are some good ideas in there but their servers are very unrelaible and the html has a lot oof errors. Saying that, mines not perfect either but I at least try to meet the W3C standards some of the time :-)

let use know more about what you are doing. Take a look at Multiply they have some cool features.

Jucato
July 26th, 2006, 06:03 AM
It's not an ad. It's on the front page of http://multiply.com


Want to show your profile to millions of people you don't know? Use MySpace.

Share your photos, video, music, blogs and more with the people you already know and love: Join Multiply.

I'm not really sure how much they're affiliated with MySpace. They're logos are also almost similar. Anyway, I have nothing against my space. I'm really just opting for more "open" alternatives. But multiply sounds good. I'll take a look into it. Is it very customizable (CSS stuff)?

RAV TUX
July 26th, 2006, 06:21 AM
It's not an ad. It's on the front page of http://multiply.com



I'm not really sure how much they're affiliated with MySpace. They're logos are also almost similar. Anyway, I have nothing against my space. I'm really just opting for more "open" alternatives. But multiply sounds good. I'll take a look into it. Is it very customizable (CSS stuff)?


ahhhh! I get it your mis-understanding their ad:

http://images.multiply.com/common/misc/quote-start.gif
Want to show your profile to millions of people you don't know? Use MySpace (http://www.myspace.com/).

Share your photos, video, music, blogs and more with the people you already know and love: Join Multiply (http://multiply.com/user/join). http://images.multiply.com/common/misc/quote-end.gif
they are saying if you "Want to show your profile to millions of people you don't know?" then use Myspace

but...

if you want to " Share your photos, video, music, blogs and more with the people you already know and love" then join Multiply.

It is a comparison contrast that they are completely different then myspace, the exact opposite & that their is no affliation. To legally do this they are probably bound to provide a link.

chickengirl
July 26th, 2006, 06:35 AM
My blog host of choice is Wordpress for some reasons:
1. It's open source: a great plus
2. It will be easy to migrate from the wordpress.com to the wordpress.org once I get my own webhost.

The only thing I don't like about it is the lack of customization features: you can't have your own CSS, you can't make your own theme (AFAIK), no tagboards, etc.

I don't know about tagboards (actually I'm not sure what they are -- is it like a shoutbox?) but you most certainly can have your own CSS and a custom theme in WordPress. My blog has a theme that I made myself, for example.

Harold P
July 26th, 2006, 06:37 AM
I like blogspot, but maybe after all this talk, I'll check out wordpress soon. :)

Jucato
July 26th, 2006, 06:46 AM
@Jozef: (I used your "new" name :D) I now see my error. the "ad" is quite confusing at first, though. I think they should have emphasized some parts of the sentences.


I don't know about tagboards (actually I'm not sure what they are -- is it like a shoutbox?) but you most certainly can have your own CSS and a custom theme in WordPress. My blog has a theme that I made myself, for example.

Um... maybe a little distinction is in order. Wordpress.org allows you to make your own CSS and themes. Actually it allows you to do whatever. Wordpress.com doesn't. You can't do CSS, and the only themes you're allowed to use are the ones already available.

Oh, and yes, tagboards are like shoutboxes.

RAV TUX
July 26th, 2006, 06:46 AM
My blog host of choice is Wordpress for some reasons:
1. It's open source: a great plus
2. It will be easy to migrate from the wordpress.com to the wordpress.org once I get my own webhost.


I do like the fact that Wordpress is open source.

...are there any other open source blog host?

RAV TUX
July 26th, 2006, 06:49 AM
I now see my error. the "ad" is quite confusing at first, though. I think they should have emphasized some parts of the sentences.





Not your fault, their ad is confusing and I don't think it was a wise choice for them to choose to use it, especially since it can be so obviously misunderstood.





Um... maybe a little distinction is in order. Wordpress.org allows you to make your own CSS and themes. Actually it allows you to do whatever. Wordpress.com doesn't. You can't do CSS, and the only themes you're allowed to use are the ones already available.




Thanks for the Wordpress clarification.

Jucato
July 26th, 2006, 08:07 AM
I do like the fact that Wordpress is open source.

...are there any other open source blog host?

http://www.opensourcecms.com/ has a list of Open Source CMS software, including blogs. But the thing about these blog software is that they're just software. You still need to host them. Even Wordpress' "open source-ness" isnt' really that visible in the Wordpress.com blogs. You only know that they're using open source software because of Wordpress.org. In short, Wordpress.com is a free blog hosting service that allows you to create a blog using limited features of the open source Wordpress software.

Multiply is starting to look really attractive. No need to maintain a Wordpress + Photobucket + something else accounts. All in one place. I wonder how customizable it is. I also wonder how long it will last. :D

RAV TUX
July 26th, 2006, 10:44 AM
http://www.opensourcecms.com/ has a list of Open Source CMS software, including blogs. But the thing about these blog software is that they're just software. You still need to host them. Even Wordpress' "open source-ness" isnt' really that visible in the Wordpress.com blogs. You only know that they're using open source software because of Wordpress.org. In short, Wordpress.com is a free blog hosting service that allows you to create a blog using limited features of the open source Wordpress software.

Multiply is starting to look really attractive. No need to maintain a Wordpress + Photobucket + something else accounts. All in one place. I wonder how customizable it is. I also wonder how long it will last. :D

Thanks, for the 411.

Yes Multiply is nice especially the music sharing feature.

richbarna
July 26th, 2006, 11:19 AM
Well, even though I am using blogspot, I voted for wordpress. I have been gradually reading through the list of forum user's blogs, and I am really impressed with the wordpress layouts. For some reason they seem to load quicker in Firefox too.

I think I feel a change coming on, if i can successfully copy and paste everything over.

jordilin
July 26th, 2006, 11:25 AM
Well, even though I am using blogspot, I voted for wordpress. I have been gradually reading through the list of forum user's blogs, and I am really impressed with the wordpress layouts. For some reason they seem to load quicker in Firefox too.

I think I feel a change coming on, if i can successfully copy and paste everything over.

richbarna, you can set up your wordpress account, and then you can import all your blogspot posts to wordpress. Inside Wordpress there's an option to do that automatically. I changed to wordpress because it had more options than blogspot. I reckon, wordpress is more powerful than blogspot.

Jucato
July 26th, 2006, 11:47 AM
@richbarna: I think the speed of Wordpress.com blogs is partly due to very minimal CSS and no ads. I might be wrong, though.


richbarna, you can set up your wordpress account, and then you can import all your blogspot posts to wordpress. Inside Wordpress there's an option to do that automatically. I changed to wordpress because it had more options than blogspot. I reckon, wordpress is more powerful than blogspot.

You are talking about wordpress.com, right? I've always thought, at least at first glance, that Blogger/Blogspot offered more options, at least in customizations, CSS, etc.

I think I must add some more features that I like/dislike about Wordpress (referring to Wordpress.com)

I like:
- Not having to republish your whole blog to make some changes. You only need to republish the blog index. In Blogger, there are changes wherein you need to republish your whole blog, which AFAIK will also resend all RSS feeds. If you have a very large blog, this will take quite a long time.

I dislike:
- Wordpress documentation. It has one of the worst layouts/documentation that I've ever seen. Wordpress.com documentation barely exists, or exists mixed up with Wordpress.org documentation, which is very confusing. There is also no clear organization and flow of the documentation.

- This is the only Wordpress.com-specific documentation: http://faq.wordpress.com/

- Wordpress.com links to this documentation, which is mostly applicable to Wordpress.org (although some basic blogging concepts are common): http://codex.wordpress.org/Main_Page

- This is the Wordpress.com forums, a format that is slightly similar to SourceForge.Net's forums, a format that I personally find a bit intimidating to use (of course it helps that there are very few entries in the forums, for now): http://wordpress.com/forums/

Aside from these issues, I prefer Wordpress over the others. But thanks to Jozef, I'm slowly considering Multiply... :D

richbarna
July 26th, 2006, 11:53 AM
richbarna, you can set up your wordpress account, and then you can import all your blogspot posts to wordpress. Inside Wordpress there's an option to do that automatically. I changed to wordpress because it had more options than blogspot. I reckon, wordpress is more powerful than blogspot.

Wow !, Really?
Hey thanks jordilin, that's excellent news. I am hopeless with webs and blogs, so that is going to make my life a whole lot easier.

jordilin
July 26th, 2006, 12:05 PM
You are talking about wordpress.com, right? I've always thought, at least at first glance, that Blogger/Blogspot offered more options, at least in customizations, CSS, etc.

Yes, I'm talking about wordpress.com. As I'm not a web developer, I don't care much about css styles and this kind of stuff. What I like is having a nice layout style, and then having a control panel powerful enough to add things, such as categories, links, buttons. With wordpress doing this is very easy. What's more, with wordpress you have blog statistics that blogspot if I remember does not have.

Jucato
July 26th, 2006, 02:20 PM
Yes, I'm talking about wordpress.com. As I'm not a web developer, I don't care much about css styles and this kind of stuff. What I like is having a nice layout style, and then having a control panel powerful enough to add things, such as categories, links, buttons. With wordpress doing this is very easy. What's more, with wordpress you have blog statistics that blogspot if I remember does not have.

I see. But in Wordpress, you are limited to only what a particular theme allows you to customize. For example, if you like a particular theme's color schemes, but would prefer to have a 3-panel layout, you're stuck if that theme only uses a 2-panel layout. No way around it except if a theme exactly matching your preference was developed.

Not sure about the blog stats. :D

richbarna
July 26th, 2006, 02:29 PM
I see. But in Wordpress, you are limited to only what a particular theme allows you to customize. For example, if you like a particular theme's color schemes, but would prefer to have a 3-panel layout, you're stuck if that theme only uses a 2-panel layout. No way around it except if a theme exactly matching your preference was developed.

Not sure about the blog stats. :D

True, I imported my blogger stuff (cool :)) only it doesn't import the attached screenshots/images as well.
EDIT: Screen shots came over when I edited the post categories :mrgreen:

As for customizing, you are right. I liked one of the themes, but I want orange links instead of blue, and I can't change the text colours.

In Blogger you can edit the html code, I haven't found that in wordpress.

So for the moment, I am clicking through the themes to see which one I like best. I wonder if new themes are added regularly?

I need something with an Ubuntu flavour, but with a wide side panel, so that links stay on one line.

Like this :-

Page 1 - Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah

Not like this :-

Page 1 - Blah Blah Blah
Blah

richbarna
July 26th, 2006, 03:02 PM
Thank you WordPress !
http://ubuntuos.wordpress.com/

Jucato
July 26th, 2006, 04:12 PM
Glad you found a theme to your liking (I haven't yet... :()
Should I change the link to your blog, or are you keeping the original one (BlogSpot)? :D

mostwanted
July 26th, 2006, 04:17 PM
I prefer my own script because I can extend it however I like whenever I like.

panickedthumb
July 26th, 2006, 04:19 PM
Fenyx, livejournal IS open source. At least it was last time I checked (a couple of months ago). There are a LOT of places that use the LiveJournal code to run their own websites (DeadJournal is the most famous).

-Phi-
July 26th, 2006, 04:57 PM
I use livejournal because it's the one online friends use, it has enough free features for me, it's not too ugly, not full of ads, and I'm a stick in the mud.

Also, looks like the livejournal code is indeed open source (http://www.livejournal.org/) (not that I knew that).

- Phi

jordilin
July 26th, 2006, 06:29 PM
Thank you WordPress !
http://ubuntuos.wordpress.com/
richbarna, your new blog is really cool. Congratulations, :-D

aerials
July 26th, 2006, 06:31 PM
I'm hosting my own blog, using textpattern (http://www.textpattern.com) as software. I switched from wordpress (also self hosted) because I was tired of installing anti-spam plugins and the like. Textpattern is really lightweight and easy to customize and I did not get a single spam comment, whereas with wordpress it were like 30 a day.

Brunellus
July 26th, 2006, 06:48 PM
I use livejournal. One thing I like about it that few blogging suites seem to provide--THREADED COMMENTS. Why is there such an allergic aversion to threaded comments in the blogosphere?

RaZoR1394
July 26th, 2006, 06:53 PM
I don't like any of those community blogs. I prefer to put Wordpress on my own host.

richbarna
July 26th, 2006, 08:52 PM
richbarna, your new blog is really cool. Congratulations, :-D

Hey thanks :)
I have already stated that I'm not really very good at this sort of stuff. I suppose we learn more as we go on.
Thanks for the previous info on WordPress.

richbarna
July 26th, 2006, 08:53 PM
Glad you found a theme to your liking (I haven't yet... :()
Should I change the link to your blog, or are you keeping the original one (BlogSpot)? :D

I just changed my link to WordPress. My other Barcelona Blog has a link to the Blogger Ubuntu site.

RAV TUX
July 26th, 2006, 09:47 PM
I just changed my link to WordPress. My other Barcelona Blog has a link to the Blogger Ubuntu site.

Thanks for adding a link to my blog.

basketcase
July 27th, 2006, 12:52 AM
I have a wordpress.com page, and also have used wordpress on my own host for a small site.

http://basketcase.wordpress.org
http://www.jackstandracing.com

I think I tried to use Blogger at some point, but wasn't a huge fan of it.

gruvsyco
July 27th, 2006, 01:00 AM
I'm using my own Wordpress install on a host. Already had the site up and wanted to switch to a blog and it seemed to be the most featureful at the time.

richbarna
July 27th, 2006, 01:05 AM
I have a wordpress.com page, and also have used wordpress on my own host for a small site.

http://basketcase.wordpress.org
http://www.jackstandracing.com

I think I tried to use Blogger at some point, but wasn't a huge fan of it.

Nice TA on the jackstandracing site :)
Basketcase link doesn't work.

Jucato
July 27th, 2006, 01:26 AM
@panickedthumb: Livejournal.org/Livejournal.com... just like Wordpress.org/Wordpress.com. :D

Let me get this straight, you can get the software for Livejournal.org then use that to make your content, then upload/post those on a blog hosting service that provides Livejournal support, like Deadjournal? Any other free hosts like that? Deadjournal is just to dark for my taste (not the theme, but the atmosphere).

@Brunellus: I'm also wondering why threaded comments haven't been available in other blogs, but are available in other CMS types. The only reason I could think of is that it might be a bit of a hassle for people to figure out whether what they're posting is a reply to an existing thread or a new thread.

@Jozef: does Multiply have threaded comments?

RAV TUX
July 27th, 2006, 01:39 AM
@Jozef: does Multiply have threaded comments?

Yes. If you choose to set it up that way.

hcgtv
July 27th, 2006, 01:42 AM
After spending years trying out all the different Open Source software, I've settled on Textpattern (http://textpattern.com).

It's light, easy to setup and it doesn't kill your server when you start getting massive hits.

benplaut
July 27th, 2006, 02:10 AM
i host my own... i can host you too if you want (with ftp, wordpress, w/e)... drop me a PM

Jucato
July 27th, 2006, 02:42 AM
That's very generous of you benplaut. :D

Does anyone know of any other free web/blog hosting service that would allow you to use Wordpress, Textpattern, Livejournal or some other blogging client/software? Wordpress' list of hosts that support it are all paid services, and most free web services don't have PHP/MySQL support, which Wordpress needs. I don't know much about using the Wordpress software and hosting it somewhere else, but I'm very much willing to learn. :D

RAV TUX
July 27th, 2006, 04:19 PM
I would be interested in finding a open source blog host to host on my domain, cafeubuntu.com to set up a unique blog site for Ubuntu users with established launchpad accounts.

If anybody can help me out with this please let me know.

Jucato
July 31st, 2006, 03:10 AM
I'd just like to mention another blog software that has threaded comments and is Open Source (GPL): bBlog (http://www.bblog.com/)

I found out that Wordpress(.org) can have threaded comments by installing one of the many available 3rd-party plugins. Plugins seem to be one of the better features of Wordpress, something like Firefox extensions.

But aside from LiveJournal(.com), there doesn't seem to be any other blog host that offers threaded comments. Anyway, sometimes from what I've seen, threaded comments can be confusing to non-regular posters. They sometimes reply/comment on a post when they should actually be starting a new thread. :D

chickengirl
July 31st, 2006, 03:14 AM
But aside from LiveJournal(.com), there doesn't seem to be any other blog host that offers threaded comments. Anyway, sometimes from what I've seen, threaded comments can be confusing to non-regular posters. They sometimes reply/comment on a post when they should actually be starting a new thread. :D

I've seen threaded comments. Quite possibly the most disorienting thing I've ever seen on a blog. It's like the beast with a million heads. :p

basketcase
July 31st, 2006, 05:41 AM
Nice TA on the jackstandracing site :)
Basketcase link doesn't work.
Feel free to bost up comments and such. We've all been busy this summer, and of course being jackstand racing, not a lot has been accomplished.

http://basketcase.wordpress.com should have been how I typed it.

I don't think I don't know someone who doesn't have a myspace page (except myself). I always tell everyone I have my own host and blog software.

RAV TUX
July 31st, 2006, 05:50 AM
But aside from LiveJournal(.com), there doesn't seem to be any other blog host that offers threaded comments. Anyway, sometimes from what I've seen, threaded comments can be confusing to non-regular posters. They sometimes reply/comment on a post when they should actually be starting a new thread. :D

Multiply has three options:

1. Chronological
2. Reverse
3. Threaded

I use reverse.

heres an example:

http://jozefmazeltov.multiply.com/journal/item/7

Jucato
July 31st, 2006, 05:57 AM
I don't think I don't know someone who doesn't have a myspace page (except myself). I always tell everyone I have my own host and blog software.

I don't. :D
I'm not a fan of "social networking" sites: MySpace, Frienster, etc. I have a Friendster account, but only because of peer pressure. And because it seems like it's the only way to "connect" to old friends who don't seem to want to use e-mails, blogs, groups, etc.
I think the Friendster blog requires you to have a Friendster account in order to post comments on other blogs. I'm just not sure as I don't actually use that.

I would probably prefer to use something like Multiply, which is like CMS with social networking, rather than Friendster/MySpace which is like social networking trying to be CMS.

Jucato
July 31st, 2006, 06:01 AM
Muultiply has three options:

1. Chronological
2. Reverse
3. Threaded

I use reverse.

heres an example:

http://jozefmazeltov.multiply.com/journal/item/7

I see. It's nice to have the option to choose between your regular comment style, and a threaded one. Other offer only one or the other, but not both.

I'm almost pretty much sold with Multiply... I do admit, it's pretty darn convenient (and dangerous) to have everything in one roof.

One last question about it, though: does it allow you to make a page where you can do your own CSS stuff, something like Blogger/BlogSpot?

Btw, that was one hilarious blog entry. Unfortunately, I couldn't comment since 1) it's pretty old, and 2) only registered Multiply users can comment. :D

RAV TUX
July 31st, 2006, 06:17 AM
I see. It's nice to have the option to choose between your regular comment style, and a threaded one. Other offer only one or the other, but not both.

I'm almost pretty much sold with Multiply... I do admit, it's pretty darn convenient (and dangerous) to have everything in one roof.

One last question about it, though: does it allow you to make a page where you can do your own CSS stuff, something like Blogger/BlogSpot?

Btw, that was one hilarious blog entry. Unfortunately, I couldn't comment since 1) it's pretty old, and 2) only registered Multiply users can comment. :D

this is from my multiply settings page:


Custom CSS


About Custom CSS
Style sheets define how things like fonts, colors and images appear on your site. Feel free to enter any CSS you like in the space below, and use the Preview button to test your changes until you find the look you want. Learn more. (http://multiply.com/setup/pages/learn-more)

Note: you do not need to enter style tags in this tool.

Jucato
July 31st, 2006, 06:23 AM
Grrr!! Just when I thought I would be perfectly (well almost perfectly) settled in and contented with Wordpress, you had to mention this!!! :D

Now if only Multiply was based on an open source software, or if there was a FOSS counterpart, it would be perfect. But since I usually don't have moral issues with using non-FOSS stuff... :D

RAV TUX
August 3rd, 2006, 02:15 AM
Grrr!! Just when I thought I would be perfectly (well almost perfectly) settled in and contented with Wordpress, you had to mention this!!! :D

Now if only Multiply was based on an open source software, or if there was a FOSS counterpart, it would be perfect. But since I usually don't have moral issues with using non-FOSS stuff... :D

I thought you said Multiply is open source?

btw the Multiply RSS live bookmark works great in Firefox.

Jucato
August 3rd, 2006, 02:23 AM
I thought you said Multiply is open source?

Huh? I didn't. I must have made a typo or have been very ambiguous (again!)

Kayne
August 3rd, 2006, 03:16 AM
I really like blogspot since you get a overall nice-looking site with a decent blogeditor. In combination with Picasa for uploading images it is superb.

But it's not meant for people, who want truly their own site with their own design and style.
Speaking for myself, I don't blog for the public but for me and my friends. To pay for webhosting and put up Wordpress, which is my overall favorite, is just overkill for this purpose.

Jucato
August 3rd, 2006, 03:32 AM
I've always thought Blogger/BlogSpot is one of the most customizable free blog hosts around, allowing you to edit CSS, which is something Wordpress(.com) currently doesn't allow.

ubuntu_demon
August 3rd, 2006, 11:00 AM
I use Wordpress but I would like to be able to use a wiki-like language.

requirements for my blog :
-opensource would nice
-wiki-like language (my biggest problem with wordpress)
-don't want to host it myself
-has to look nice
-posting a blog entry has to be as little of an effort as possible.
-I want to be able to post directly from the digg. (Digg supports : Typepad,Wordpress,Live Journal,Blogger, Moveable Type, Blogger API ,Metaweblog API)

Mtnear
August 3rd, 2006, 03:04 PM
I use wordpress with bluehost. Works very well, and I really like the ability to edit/configure wordpress to use multiple themes, plugins, etc.

Jucato
August 3rd, 2006, 03:17 PM
I recently discovered through a TV commercial (who says commercials are completely useless? :D) that we have a local web hosting company that offers as low as US$ 0.50 a month! Unfortunately, a fellow Ubuntu user and countryman had some problems with them so he didn't recommend it. I guess that means I'm sticking to Multiply for now.

Just a question: does anyone know how Blogger/BlogSpot integrates with the other Google services (Gmail, Picasa, Google Earth, etc.)? Google has a lot of neat services, but very scattered.

Kayne
August 3rd, 2006, 04:33 PM
I can only speak for Picasa, you can select your images, you want to post to your blog, and then press on the "BlogThis!" button. Then a blogeditor appears and you can arrange the images the way you like them. After finishing, Picasa uploads it to your blogaccount.
It's much more comfortable than going to blogger.com and upload one image after another.

As for gmail and Google Earth, I didn't see any features that have anything to do with blogging...

Kayne
August 3rd, 2006, 04:33 PM
eeerm... double post?

Jucato
August 3rd, 2006, 04:39 PM
well, maybe not Google Earth. Maybe Google Maps?

But Gmail integration like e-mailing blog posts to people in your contact lists, or something like that.

If Google came up with something like Mutiply, a sort of interface to access closely related Google services (Blogger, Gmail, Writely, Picasa, Calendar, Groups, etc.) all in one page, then Multiply might have a bigger competition than MySpace and Friendster.

And I might see myself migrating again... (oh boy, I need to stop doing this...)

Mtnear
August 3rd, 2006, 04:52 PM
I meant to mention in my post above that, in regard to Picasa, I use the "export as web page" option to post photos to my blog.

I select the photos that I want to include in the blog post, choose the option mentioned above, and then select "export as xml". This will create a folder of that name in the Picasa Web Exports folder on your system. I can then upload that file to my web hosting account and use the WP-Picasa plugin to show it on my blog post simply by adding the line:

gallery [{Name_of_Uploaded_File}].

It provides you with a nice blog post with your pictures underneath the text in thumbnail fashion. The thumbnails can then be clicked on for a larger view. Sounds complicated, but it's very easy.

By the way, does anyone one know how I could replicate the above process (at least the export a web page in xml format part) using F-Spot? Just curious.