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bird1500
December 5th, 2012, 07:15 AM
Hi,
Starting with Quantal "Software sources" is (much) slower to startup and a lot more CPU intensive (so that I can hear the fan spinning like crazy) for like 2-5 seconds until the window shows up.

Raring doesn't install for me, so I'm asking if this has been fixed in Raring.

VinDSL
December 5th, 2012, 09:11 AM
Kind of a tricky question!

I suppose it depends on how many repos/PPAs you've got plugged in.

Here's a screenie of Synaptic reloading the package info, on my machine...



http://vindsl.com/images/vindsl-desktop-5-dec-2012-1(659x520).png (http://vindsl.com/images/vindsl-desktop-5-dec-2012-1.png)


It's reloading "355" sources, I guess, and it takes a while.

If I open the repo list, all it does is call up "Software Sources". And, yes, it takes forever to open -- 1-2 minutes, going by my clock, in Conky (right-side of display).

I would judge "Software Sources" to be hideously slow, and getting slower. But, I keep adding sources, sooo...

But, then again, I suppose testers provide extreme examples of slowness and inefficiency, when it comes to such things.

Anyway, Ubu Raring certainly doesn't offer any relief over Quantal.

Every time I open "Software Sources", it pegs my processors at 100% for a certain length of time, and takes forever to open up the window. Sorry! ;)

ventrical
December 5th, 2012, 02:54 PM
23 seconds here .. but with only 1 ppa.

fjgaude
December 5th, 2012, 03:58 PM
About 3 seconds here, without any PPAs.

mc4man
December 5th, 2012, 05:08 PM
A couple of ppa's or so doesn't make any or much difference here, the bulk of the increased time comes from additional drivers being added to SS.
The time to open is likely more dependent on cpu & drive type, a newish cpu & SSD will be much faster than older cpu & or HDD

If there is a bug I'd guess that when SS is opened directly or from software-center there is no indication anything is going on
(synaptic will show a spinning cursor while cursor is in synaptic window

zika
December 5th, 2012, 06:48 PM
It is difficult (in most of the cases) to differentiate part in difference in time due to network access from the one due to actual disk/data access...

cariboo
December 6th, 2012, 03:53 AM
This method isn't that accurate, but I used the following command to start software-sources:


time software-properties-gtk

and got the following results:


time software-properties-gtk
gpg: /tmp/tmpsmw2p7/trustdb.gpg: trustdb created

real 0m19.423s
user 0m9.833s
sys 0m0.316s

some of the total time, is a result of my reation time to close the window once it opens.

Running the command a second time, because of caching, the time drops about 7 seconds.

fjgaude
December 6th, 2012, 05:13 AM
Here's mine using 'time':


frank@cutie:~$ time software-properties-gtk
gpg: /tmp/tmpal7mxn/trustdb.gpg: trustdb created

real 0m4.312s
user 0m2.972s
sys 0m0.144s


Running the command several times dropped the time by maybe one second. Notice my signature.

VinDSL
December 6th, 2012, 08:10 AM
Ooh... nice one, cariboo! :D



vindsl@Zuul:~$ time software-properties-gtk
gpg: /tmp/tmpcv1ope/trustdb.gpg: trustdb created

real 0m55.640s
user 0m27.032s
sys 0m1.164s


Anyone got that beat?!?!?

zika
December 6th, 2012, 10:41 AM
:~$ time software-properties-gtk
gpg: /tmp/tmpq9bbyi/trustdb.gpg: trustdb created

real 0m21.281s
user 0m12.717s
sys 0m0.351s(/tmp is not od disk, it is in memory (tmpfs)...)

mc4man
December 9th, 2012, 06:48 PM
bug on
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1073728

bird1500
December 9th, 2012, 08:00 PM
Thanks for the bug report, someone had to step up, otherwise the devs are playing ostrich politics it seems.
I'd also like Canonical to tell more of its devs to use native languages, it pushes a lot of scripted code even for sophisticated stuff like the software center. Imo Steve Jobs would have used the word "lazy" in this regard, as he did about the devs from Adobe (for a different reason though).

VinDSL
December 9th, 2012, 08:18 PM
bug on
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1073728
Added "me too" and comment.

Thanks!

serdotlinecho
December 10th, 2012, 10:15 AM
Netbook 1.6ghz
2gig of RAM
Hard disk 5400 RPM
Unity 6.12.0daily12.12.05-0ubuntu1
Software Sources 0.92.13



~$ date -R ; time software-properties-gtk
Mon, 10 Dec 2012 17:01:17 +0800
gpg: /tmp/tmp3d6zsq/trustdb.gpg: trustdb created

real 0m18.634s
user 0m14.112s
sys 0m0.672s

pqwoerituytrueiwoq
December 13th, 2012, 05:39 AM
The added time is because of the last tab, They put "Addition Drivers" aka jocky in the software sources window

the best way to make everyone happy would be this i think:
The software sources tab should not search for drivers until the additional drivers tab is selected and it should have a loading bar in it for that process

bird1500
December 13th, 2012, 09:30 AM
The software sources tab should not search for drivers until the additional drivers tab is selected and it should have a loading bar in it for that process

It's a painkiller rather than a cure, but still, doing it is much better than nothing.

Imo, the Canonical devs should ask themselves how to detect drivers much more efficiently and when fixed do the detection in the background, because even then it could take up to a second or so.

To seriously compete with Apple they need to be better, not just build patches on top of good-enough (or mildly bad) open source solutions.