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Darth Matthias
September 17th, 2012, 10:35 AM
I have been looking into the mineral oil PC systems, and have considered building one. But, I seem to remember something about the case of a PC being a Faraday's cage and shielding the components from unwanted frequency interference. I really want to build a system, but I really don't know about mineral oil and if it is capable of being a sheild. Posting this question may be inappropriate for this site, but I really need to know. Here is a guy who has posted his feats and failures:

http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=163649

correct me if I have created an issue by posting this address, but like I said before, I really need to know about interference.

Elfy
September 17th, 2012, 10:37 AM
Thread moved to The Community Cafe.

mcduck
September 17th, 2012, 12:18 PM
The oil of course won't be able top provide you with any EMI shielding, so it's a question of what bkind of container you'd use to put the system in.

If you go for the typical glass fish tank route, you could for example surround the inside of the tank with some wire mesh to provide the shielding while still allowing people to see the machine through the case.

...on the other hand people are using all kinds of transparent plexi glass cases without any problems (even though at least here companies aren't allowed to sell pre-built systems like that due to lack of EMI shielding).

3rdalbum
September 17th, 2012, 02:16 PM
The EMI shielding is not necessary for the sake of the computer, it's actually to stop the computer from creating interference with people's TVs and radios. Maybe even mobile phones?

The biggest problem I hear about mineral oil PCs is that the oil slowly seeps up through your cables due to the wick effect, and slowly pools in your keyboard and mouse, eventually killing them.

SlugSlug
September 17th, 2012, 02:25 PM
due to the wick effect, and slowly pools in your keyboard and mouse, eventually killing them.



crikey I hope not!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wick_effect

Paqman
September 17th, 2012, 03:00 PM
The biggest problem I hear about mineral oil PCs is that the oil slowly seeps up through your cables due to the wick effect, and slowly pools in your keyboard and mouse, eventually killing them.

Shouldn't be too hard to prevent, surely? Just cut the cables then splice them back together so that any oil drains out of the splice.

I would have thought the biggest problem would be the sheer impracticality of it. You're replacing a small, light, reliable system with a large, heavy, smelly, messy one. What sort of maintenance do they require?

jockyburns
September 17th, 2012, 05:06 PM
The benefits however, are , that you can fry chips whilst playing WoW :lolflag::lolflag::lolflag::lolflag::lolflag:

Grenage
September 17th, 2012, 05:11 PM
The main benefit of an oil machine is that it's completely badass!

It rather ends there, but isn't that enough?

Statia
September 17th, 2012, 07:33 PM
What sort of maintenance do they require?

You need a skimmer to get the small bits of potato out before they char.

GWBouge
September 17th, 2012, 08:30 PM
I've been eyeing this one for a while now: http://www.pugetsystems.com/submerged.php

You could certainly do it yourself for less than the $600 they're asking for their DIY kit, but there's some pretty good info up in there.

Darth Matthias
September 24th, 2012, 10:55 PM
I have been following a few threads that show trial and errors and hardships that this fellow has been through. all that being read, I would still like to create my own setup.

http://www.eeweb.com/project/andrew_mollmann/mineral-oil-cooled-pc-case-part-3 awesome read. I will post the other links to his other threads at a later time (when I get home)