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ronlybonly
June 24th, 2006, 06:10 AM
I'm looking for a portable music(/video) player that will work in my beloved Dapper and is ogg-compatible. Any recommendations?

scxtt
June 24th, 2006, 06:31 AM
i love my iRiver H300 ...

slimdog360
June 24th, 2006, 07:46 AM
same, Ive got an iriver T10. Its cheap, has very long battery life, supports ogg, raido all that other stuff. Works with dapper well

dosed150
June 24th, 2006, 08:03 AM
im not sure but the cowon a2 might play ogg

pdwalpole
June 24th, 2006, 11:25 AM
I got a Samsung tp-mt6 through Amazon -- 80 bucks or so, as I recall. It is very small, very light, and works quite well. It works as a USB flash drive, so you just drag songs (or folders of songs) over. It supports Ogg. Good luck with your search.

disturbed1
June 24th, 2006, 01:33 PM
im not sure but the cowon a2 might play ogg

It does, the x5 also plays flac ;) But it only has a 160x128 display compared to the a2's 480x272 4" TFT.

Also recieves quite high ratings for sound quality in every review I've read.

http://www.jetaudio.com/

gingermark
June 24th, 2006, 01:56 PM
Yep, all Cowon's iAudio (http://www.cowon.com/) products will play ogg, as do some iRivers (but be careful, as some use a Microsoft file-transfer protocol and will not work with Linux). Samsung's Yepp series also supports it I believe, as does some of the MPIO players.

Have a look at this list (http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/PortablePlayers) too.

EDIT: That transfer protocol I was referring to is Microsoft's "Media Transfer Protocol (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Transfer_Protocol)" - apparently used in some "Creative Technology, Samsung, Intel and iRiver" products. So, I would stay away from those on principle.

Azrael
June 24th, 2006, 02:44 PM
If you feel your Archos, iPod, iRiver, Toshiba or iAudio is unnecessarily crippled by lacking codec support and/or DRM, then check out Rockbox (http://www.rockbox.org). It is open source firmware that will play all the codecs you want and much more. It's still fresh in development and most ports still have minor issues to resolve, but it's already really sweet I think.

scxtt
June 24th, 2006, 07:42 PM
EDIT: That transfer protocol I was referring to is Microsoft's "Media Transfer Protocol (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Transfer_Protocol)" - apparently used in some "Creative Technology, Samsung, Intel and iRiver" products. So, I would stay away from those on principle.you're not wrong, per se, but not 100% right ... MTP (http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=2&q=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Transfer_Protocol&e=9797) is an option, not a restriction ... i have it on my iRiver and it's just for use w/ DRM media ... i've NEVER bought a song to use w/ my H300 and i have over 2700 songs on it (my own ripped MP3's, a handful of wmas (and about 25 oggs)) ... there's a media port {DRM access} and a data port {HDD access} ...

Sye d'Burns
June 24th, 2006, 07:48 PM
I actually use my tapwave zodiac for all my multimedia needs. 480x320 screen, two SD card slots. With a couple of two gig SD cards you're ready to roll. It plays video very well (tcpmp. It has excellent sound. Plus, it's a pda and I just like that.

AndyCooll
June 24th, 2006, 08:43 PM
Avoid Sony products. The one my missus has requires the Connect software to transfer (which is Windoze only) and doesn't support Ogg. :sad:

Cjattwood
June 24th, 2006, 09:01 PM
MTP Players DO work under Ubuntu, it just takes a little more effort than UMS does.

gingermark
June 24th, 2006, 10:57 PM
you're not wrong, per se, but not 100% right ... MTP (http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=2&q=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Transfer_Protocol&e=9797) is an option, not a restriction ... i have it on my iRiver and it's just for use w/ DRM media ... i've NEVER bought a song to use w/ my H300 and i have over 2700 songs on it (my own ripped MP3's, a handful of wmas (and about 25 oggs)) ... there's a media port {DRM access} and a data port {HDD access} ...

MTP Players DO work under Ubuntu, it just takes a little more effort than UMS does.
My apologies, I was under the impression that MTP replaced UMS, and that it didn't work in Linux.

dosed150
June 24th, 2006, 11:17 PM
some mp3 players are only mtp but some are ums and mtp

alyson
June 29th, 2006, 12:54 AM
Another vote for the iAudio X5. It's ogg compatible and mine works perfectly in Dapper.

Onyros
June 29th, 2006, 02:23 AM
Another vote for the iAudio X5. It's ogg compatible and mine works perfectly in Dapper.Another iAudio X5 owner here, working flawlessly with Ubuntu (recognized as an external hdd), plus it plays both ogg and FLAC.

I had a Rio Karma before (I will miss it profoundly, best sound quality EVER), and it worked with Ubuntu through a little java app (Rio Music Manager Lite).

zachtib
June 29th, 2006, 04:49 AM
i've got a 4G ipod that works fine with linux. the latest rhythmbox supports track transfer to ipods
if you want ogg support, you can install rockbox on the ipod, which makes it able to play and file on the disk, and doesn't have to be in the itunes database.

tsb
June 29th, 2006, 05:13 AM
I actually use my tapwave zodiac for all my multimedia needs. 480x320 screen, two SD card slots. With a couple of two gig SD cards you're ready to roll. It plays video very well (tcpmp. It has excellent sound. Plus, it's a pda and I just like that.

Have they announced any new models? If they had built-in 802.11G, 4GB or more of built-in flash memory, a nice 1280x720 display and the horsepower to run everything I'd be very interested.

Ah, I see they closed in July. Serves 'em right for not having built-in wifi. Hopefully the community can offer all the support and service its users need.

ajifans
June 29th, 2006, 10:07 AM
Check out the Meizu mini player. Officially supports Ogg and Linux (although not out for another month or two):

http://en.meizu.com/product_m6.asp

tsb
June 29th, 2006, 10:27 AM
That screen is 2.5" and 320x240 if I read the spec sheet right. That wouldn't go well for video. The supported data rates for both video and audio are ridiculously low as well.

sbooth
July 5th, 2006, 02:35 PM
Having searched extensively for a dapper+ogg compatible portable audio machine I've ordered an iAudio X5L. The iRiver H340 would have been my first choice - but it's not available in the UK anymore and the new iRivers don't do OGG. One alternative I looked at was an MPIO... but it didn't appeal as much as the iAudio. ogg is essential for me - almost all of our music collection is ogg (with some wma littered around from a long time ago). Happily I'll 'borrow' my husband's Shure headphones.

I'll post my thoughts when I've had a play with it!

EDIT 9th July: It's the canines cojones. It's already full(30 Gb!)... it has playlists (admittedly, generated in MusicMixer in Windows - first Windows boot for quite a while)... it plays OGGs (but not high bit rate WMAs - so I've had to reencode those - thankfully we only had a relatively small number)... it's a USB mass storage thingummy... I love it!

slimdog360
July 5th, 2006, 02:42 PM
that looks like a very very nice choice, but a little on the pricey side for me.

airtonix
July 29th, 2006, 04:07 PM
sbooth : I just got myself an ipod g5. Absolutely love it.
Then i put rockbox on, and mannnn. well it rocks.
It was like moving away from windows all over again.....happy days, now i can roll hundred sided die during heated arguments......"Wait wait, " [sound of no dice rolling] "ok you've just copped a slash to the neck and your pouring blood all over the snibervilen"...lol

rockbox rocks. oh and did i mention that playing doom on my ipod has totally cheered me up from losing my trashed laptop. yeah baby.

Luggy
July 29th, 2006, 06:21 PM
iAudioX5 FTMFW! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAudio#iAudio_X5)
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/8452/474pxiaudiox5wj4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)