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effenberg0x0
April 26th, 2012, 08:55 PM
This post is to thank each of you for your efforts, dedication and support during the PP cycle. U+1 members or not, all Ubuntu+1 testers did an amazing job in the PP cycle. I'm sure many users and members of the broader Ubuntu community are grateful of your work.

I thought people would be more excited about this by now: We're moving from a sub-forum placed in a slightly hidden area of UbuntuForums to the main category!

It doesn't sound like much, but it means not only Ubuntu+1 grew in size and quality, but is now also recognized as one of UF's main areas. We will be more visible and accessible to users and the Ubuntu community. That's a honor and it comes with increased responsibilities too. It's the result of everyone's hard work and great contributions. A small victory, I know, but consider it as a glimpse at the increased relevance testing/testers will have in the QQ cycle.

It's time to start breaking things again!

Regards,
Effenberg

PS: First!! LOL..

cariboo907
April 26th, 2012, 09:09 PM
Thanks Effenber0x0, I'm still working on the stickies, but they should up either later today, or tomorrow.

bodhi.zazen
April 26th, 2012, 09:17 PM
What is QQ ?

clear your cookies and wait for sync.

bodhi.zazen
April 26th, 2012, 09:24 PM
working now, cats once again meow, dogs bark, babies sleep.

lonniehenry
April 26th, 2012, 09:43 PM
Many thanks to all who worked on Precise. Each new test cycle brings new problems and thanks to everyone's contributions - new solutions. I have asked questions and have always gotten good answers. I will continue to have a partition for the ubuntu+1 cycle. It has caused me to learn and keep current. Thank you, all.

paul_in_london
April 26th, 2012, 10:09 PM
Got some updates now:


Current status: 7 updates [+7], 59186 new [+68].
paul@quantal-64:~$ sudo aptitude full-upgrade
The following NEW packages will be installed:
gcc-4.7-base{a}
The following packages will be upgraded:
base-files libgcc1 libgomp1 libquadmath0 libstdc++6 lsb-base lsb-release
7 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 609 kB of archives. After unpacking 222 kB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] Y
Get: 1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/main base-files amd64 6.5ubuntu7 [55.4 kB]
Get: 2 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/universe gcc-4.7-base amd64 4.7.0-4ubuntu2 [16.0 kB]
Get: 3 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/main libgcc1 amd64 1:4.7.0-4ubuntu2 [42.8 kB]
Get: 4 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/main libstdc++6 amd64 4.7.0-4ubuntu2 [322 kB]
Get: 5 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/main libgomp1 amd64 4.7.0-4ubuntu2 [27.2 kB]
Get: 6 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/main libquadmath0 amd64 4.7.0-4ubuntu2 [125 kB]
Get: 7 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/main lsb-base all 4.0-0ubuntu22 [10.1 kB]
Get: 8 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/main lsb-release all 4.0-0ubuntu22 [10.6 kB]
Fetched 609 kB in 7s (86.5 kB/s)
(Reading database ... 190374 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace base-files 6.5ubuntu6 (using .../base-files_6.5ubuntu7_amd64.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement base-files ...
Processing triggers for install-info ...
Processing triggers for man-db ...
Processing triggers for plymouth-theme-ubuntu-text ...
update-initramfs: deferring update (trigger activated)
Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ...
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.4.0-030400rc4-generic
Setting up base-files (6.5ubuntu7) ...
Installing new version of config file /etc/issue ...
Installing new version of config file /etc/issue.net ...
Installing new version of config file /etc/lsb-release ...
Processing triggers for plymouth-theme-ubuntu-text ...
update-initramfs: deferring update (trigger activated)
Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ...
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.4.0-030400rc4-generic
Selecting previously unselected package gcc-4.7-base.
(Reading database ... 190374 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking gcc-4.7-base (from .../gcc-4.7-base_4.7.0-4ubuntu2_amd64.deb) ...
Setting up gcc-4.7-base (4.7.0-4ubuntu2) ...
(Reading database ... 190382 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace libgcc1 1:4.6.3-1ubuntu5 (using .../libgcc1_1%3a4.7.0-4ubuntu2_amd64.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement libgcc1 ...
Setting up libgcc1 (1:4.7.0-4ubuntu2) ...
Processing triggers for libc-bin ...
ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
(Reading database ... 190382 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace libstdc++6 4.6.3-1ubuntu5 (using .../libstdc++6_4.7.0-4ubuntu2_amd64.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement libstdc++6 ...
Setting up libstdc++6 (4.7.0-4ubuntu2) ...
Processing triggers for libc-bin ...
ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
(Reading database ... 190382 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace libgomp1 4.6.3-1ubuntu5 (using .../libgomp1_4.7.0-4ubuntu2_amd64.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement libgomp1 ...
Preparing to replace libquadmath0 4.6.3-1ubuntu5 (using .../libquadmath0_4.7.0-4ubuntu2_amd64.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement libquadmath0 ...
Preparing to replace lsb-base 4.0-0ubuntu20 (using .../lsb-base_4.0-0ubuntu22_all.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement lsb-base ...
Setting up lsb-base (4.0-0ubuntu22) ...
(Reading database ... 190382 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace lsb-release 4.0-0ubuntu20 (using .../lsb-release_4.0-0ubuntu22_all.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement lsb-release ...
Processing triggers for man-db ...
Setting up libgomp1 (4.7.0-4ubuntu2) ...
Setting up libquadmath0 (4.7.0-4ubuntu2) ...
Setting up lsb-release (4.0-0ubuntu22) ...
Processing triggers for libc-bin ...
ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
localepurge: Disk space freed in /usr/share/locale: 0 KiB
localepurge: Disk space freed in /usr/share/man: 0 KiB
localepurge: Disk space freed in /usr/share/gnome/help: 0 KiB
localepurge: Disk space freed in /usr/share/omf: 0 KiB

Total disk space freed by localepurge: 0 KiB


Current status: 0 updates [-7].
paul@quantal-64:~$


paul@quantal-64:~$ cat /etc/issue
Ubuntu quantal (development branch) \n \l

paul@quantal-64:~$

effenberg0x0
April 26th, 2012, 10:15 PM
A toolchain already? That was quick! I'll give it a try here.

Regards,
Effenberg


Got some updates now:


Current status: 7 updates [+7], 59186 new [+68].
paul@quantal-64:~$ sudo aptitude full-upgrade
The following NEW packages will be installed:
gcc-4.7-base{a}
The following packages will be upgraded:
base-files libgcc1 libgomp1 libquadmath0 libstdc++6 lsb-base lsb-release
7 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 609 kB of archives. After unpacking 222 kB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] Y
Get: 1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/main base-files amd64 6.5ubuntu7 [55.4 kB]
Get: 2 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/universe gcc-4.7-base amd64 4.7.0-4ubuntu2 [16.0 kB]
Get: 3 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/main libgcc1 amd64 1:4.7.0-4ubuntu2 [42.8 kB]
Get: 4 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/main libstdc++6 amd64 4.7.0-4ubuntu2 [322 kB]
Get: 5 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/main libgomp1 amd64 4.7.0-4ubuntu2 [27.2 kB]
Get: 6 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/main libquadmath0 amd64 4.7.0-4ubuntu2 [125 kB]
Get: 7 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/main lsb-base all 4.0-0ubuntu22 [10.1 kB]
Get: 8 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/main lsb-release all 4.0-0ubuntu22 [10.6 kB]
Fetched 609 kB in 7s (86.5 kB/s)
(Reading database ... 190374 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace base-files 6.5ubuntu6 (using .../base-files_6.5ubuntu7_amd64.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement base-files ...
Processing triggers for install-info ...
Processing triggers for man-db ...
Processing triggers for plymouth-theme-ubuntu-text ...
update-initramfs: deferring update (trigger activated)
Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ...
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.4.0-030400rc4-generic
Setting up base-files (6.5ubuntu7) ...
Installing new version of config file /etc/issue ...
Installing new version of config file /etc/issue.net ...
Installing new version of config file /etc/lsb-release ...
Processing triggers for plymouth-theme-ubuntu-text ...
update-initramfs: deferring update (trigger activated)
Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ...
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.4.0-030400rc4-generic
Selecting previously unselected package gcc-4.7-base.
(Reading database ... 190374 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking gcc-4.7-base (from .../gcc-4.7-base_4.7.0-4ubuntu2_amd64.deb) ...
Setting up gcc-4.7-base (4.7.0-4ubuntu2) ...
(Reading database ... 190382 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace libgcc1 1:4.6.3-1ubuntu5 (using .../libgcc1_1%3a4.7.0-4ubuntu2_amd64.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement libgcc1 ...
Setting up libgcc1 (1:4.7.0-4ubuntu2) ...
Processing triggers for libc-bin ...
ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
(Reading database ... 190382 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace libstdc++6 4.6.3-1ubuntu5 (using .../libstdc++6_4.7.0-4ubuntu2_amd64.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement libstdc++6 ...
Setting up libstdc++6 (4.7.0-4ubuntu2) ...
Processing triggers for libc-bin ...
ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
(Reading database ... 190382 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace libgomp1 4.6.3-1ubuntu5 (using .../libgomp1_4.7.0-4ubuntu2_amd64.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement libgomp1 ...
Preparing to replace libquadmath0 4.6.3-1ubuntu5 (using .../libquadmath0_4.7.0-4ubuntu2_amd64.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement libquadmath0 ...
Preparing to replace lsb-base 4.0-0ubuntu20 (using .../lsb-base_4.0-0ubuntu22_all.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement lsb-base ...
Setting up lsb-base (4.0-0ubuntu22) ...
(Reading database ... 190382 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace lsb-release 4.0-0ubuntu20 (using .../lsb-release_4.0-0ubuntu22_all.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement lsb-release ...
Processing triggers for man-db ...
Setting up libgomp1 (4.7.0-4ubuntu2) ...
Setting up libquadmath0 (4.7.0-4ubuntu2) ...
Setting up lsb-release (4.0-0ubuntu22) ...
Processing triggers for libc-bin ...
ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
localepurge: Disk space freed in /usr/share/locale: 0 KiB
localepurge: Disk space freed in /usr/share/man: 0 KiB
localepurge: Disk space freed in /usr/share/gnome/help: 0 KiB
localepurge: Disk space freed in /usr/share/omf: 0 KiB

Total disk space freed by localepurge: 0 KiB


Current status: 0 updates [-7].
paul@quantal-64:~$


paul@quantal-64:~$ cat /etc/issue
Ubuntu quantal (development branch) \n \l

paul@quantal-64:~$

balloons
April 26th, 2012, 10:20 PM
this post is to thank each of you for your efforts, dedication and support during the pp cycle. U+1 members or not, all ubuntu+1 testers did an amazing job in the pp cycle. I'm sure many users and members of the broader ubuntu community are grateful of your work.

I thought people would be more excited about this by now: We're moving from a sub-forum placed in a slightly hidden area of ubuntuforums to the main category!

It doesn't sound like much, but it means not only ubuntu+1 grew in size and quality, but is now also recognized as one of uf's main areas. We will be more visible and accessible to users and the ubuntu community. That's a honor and it comes with increased responsibilities too. It's the result of everyone's hard work and great contributions. A small victory, i know, but consider it as a glimpse at the increased relevance testing/testers will have in the qq cycle.

It's time to start breaking things again!

Regards,
effenberg

ps: First!! Lol..

qq

kaldor
April 26th, 2012, 10:36 PM
Already? Here we go.

*pours up a stiff drink*

JRV
April 26th, 2012, 10:41 PM
Let the breakage begin.

Mathor
April 26th, 2012, 10:51 PM
My precise iso lasted a full hour. Now it is there to remain plugged into my laptop until Alpha 1, as my backup. I always use a clean install with no partitions and just go from scratch every time. Anything I would want I can either get in repos in 2 min, or is on an external hdd.

Let's break this.

ventrical
April 26th, 2012, 10:54 PM
Got some updates now:


Current status: 7 updates [+7], 59186 new [+68].
paul@quantal-64:~$ sudo aptitude full-upgrade
The following NEW packages will be installed:
gcc-4.7-base{a}
The following packages will be upgraded:
base-files libgcc1 libgomp1 libquadmath0 libstdc++6 lsb-base lsb-release
7 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 609 kB of archives. After unpacking 222 kB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] Y
Get: 1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/main base-files amd64 6.5ubuntu7 [55.4 kB]
Get: 2 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/universe gcc-4.7-base amd64 4.7.0-4ubuntu2 [16.0 kB]
Get: 3 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/main libgcc1 amd64 1:4.7.0-4ubuntu2 [42.8 kB]
Get: 4 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/main libstdc++6 amd64 4.7.0-4ubuntu2 [322 kB]
Get: 5 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/main libgomp1 amd64 4.7.0-4ubuntu2 [27.2 kB]
Get: 6 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/main libquadmath0 amd64 4.7.0-4ubuntu2 [125 kB]
Get: 7 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/main lsb-base all 4.0-0ubuntu22 [10.1 kB]
Get: 8 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/main lsb-release all 4.0-0ubuntu22 [10.6 kB]
Fetched 609 kB in 7s (86.5 kB/s)
(Reading database ... 190374 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace base-files 6.5ubuntu6 (using .../base-files_6.5ubuntu7_amd64.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement base-files ...
Processing triggers for install-info ...
Processing triggers for man-db ...
Processing triggers for plymouth-theme-ubuntu-text ...
update-initramfs: deferring update (trigger activated)
Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ...
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.4.0-030400rc4-generic
Setting up base-files (6.5ubuntu7) ...
Installing new version of config file /etc/issue ...
Installing new version of config file /etc/issue.net ...
Installing new version of config file /etc/lsb-release ...
Processing triggers for plymouth-theme-ubuntu-text ...
update-initramfs: deferring update (trigger activated)
Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ...
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.4.0-030400rc4-generic
Selecting previously unselected package gcc-4.7-base.
(Reading database ... 190374 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking gcc-4.7-base (from .../gcc-4.7-base_4.7.0-4ubuntu2_amd64.deb) ...
Setting up gcc-4.7-base (4.7.0-4ubuntu2) ...
(Reading database ... 190382 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace libgcc1 1:4.6.3-1ubuntu5 (using .../libgcc1_1%3a4.7.0-4ubuntu2_amd64.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement libgcc1 ...
Setting up libgcc1 (1:4.7.0-4ubuntu2) ...
Processing triggers for libc-bin ...
ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
(Reading database ... 190382 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace libstdc++6 4.6.3-1ubuntu5 (using .../libstdc++6_4.7.0-4ubuntu2_amd64.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement libstdc++6 ...
Setting up libstdc++6 (4.7.0-4ubuntu2) ...
Processing triggers for libc-bin ...
ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
(Reading database ... 190382 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace libgomp1 4.6.3-1ubuntu5 (using .../libgomp1_4.7.0-4ubuntu2_amd64.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement libgomp1 ...
Preparing to replace libquadmath0 4.6.3-1ubuntu5 (using .../libquadmath0_4.7.0-4ubuntu2_amd64.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement libquadmath0 ...
Preparing to replace lsb-base 4.0-0ubuntu20 (using .../lsb-base_4.0-0ubuntu22_all.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement lsb-base ...
Setting up lsb-base (4.0-0ubuntu22) ...
(Reading database ... 190382 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace lsb-release 4.0-0ubuntu20 (using .../lsb-release_4.0-0ubuntu22_all.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement lsb-release ...
Processing triggers for man-db ...
Setting up libgomp1 (4.7.0-4ubuntu2) ...
Setting up libquadmath0 (4.7.0-4ubuntu2) ...
Setting up lsb-release (4.0-0ubuntu22) ...
Processing triggers for libc-bin ...
ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
localepurge: Disk space freed in /usr/share/locale: 0 KiB
localepurge: Disk space freed in /usr/share/man: 0 KiB
localepurge: Disk space freed in /usr/share/gnome/help: 0 KiB
localepurge: Disk space freed in /usr/share/omf: 0 KiB

Total disk space freed by localepurge: 0 KiB


Current status: 0 updates [-7].
paul@quantal-64:~$
paul@quantal-64:~$ cat /etc/issue
Ubuntu quantal (development branch) \n \l

paul@quantal-64:~$


@Paul or anybody.

Can you walk me through setting up the repos again ? I'm just having a major brain fart here today :)

cariboo907
April 26th, 2012, 11:00 PM
@Paul or anybody.

Can you walk me through setting up the repos again ? I'm just having a major brain fart here today :)

Try the following commands:


sudo sed -i 's/precise/quantal/g' /etc/apt/sources.list

Then


sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

I've got the common problems page here (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/U%2B1/common-problems), it needs to be updated before posting a sticky

ventrical
April 26th, 2012, 11:35 PM
Try the following commands:


sudo sed -i 's/precise/quantal/g' /etc/apt/sources.listThen


sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgradeI've got the common problems page here (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/U%2B1/common-problems), it needs to be updated before posting a sticky

Yes.. I went to the sudo code quick grabber and did that :) ( I should know better). Only problem now is that I have some major download speed problems.

I will try another system.

Thanks again..

cariboo907
April 27th, 2012, 12:00 AM
We are all having download speed issues, Canonical's servers are being hammered hard.

ventrical
April 27th, 2012, 12:10 AM
Just making a point .. my download speed when hooked to any Ubuntu repository (currently quantal) but same with precise , is only about 1/3rd the speed of normal. my allotment is 256KB/s (2.4Mbps) but even though I am up to speed using windows I can't get up to speed using the repos or terminal either.

Anybody know whats up ?

edit .. also tried different PCs, changed cables , called ISP , did online test .. etc.. My IP told me my speed was working up to par.

?

whoops .. didn't see the above msg.

ventrical
April 27th, 2012, 12:12 AM
We are all having download speed issues, Canonical's servers are being hammered hard.


wow .. thanks a million cariboo.. I was tearing all my stuff apart , trying to find probs ... oh .. the joy ! :)

paul_in_london
April 27th, 2012, 12:13 AM
Yes.. I went to the sudo code quick grabber and did that :) ( I should know better). Only problem now is that I have some major download speed problems.

I will try another system.

Thanks again..

Hi ventrical .

I also just did:


sudo bash -c "sed -i 's/precise/quantal/g' /etc/apt/sources.list"

Yes, it has been a bit slower than usual. Another couple of updates now.


Current status: 3 updates [+3].
paul@quantal-64:~$ sudo aptitude full-upgrade
The following NEW packages will be installed:
cpp-4.7{a} g++-4.7{a} gcc-4.7{a} libitm1{a} libstdc++6-4.7-dev{a}
The following packages will be REMOVED:
g++-4.6{u} libstdc++6-4.6-dev{u}
The following packages will be upgraded:
cpp g++ gcc
3 packages upgraded, 5 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 23.6 MB of archives. After unpacking 33.9 MB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] Y

VinDSL
April 27th, 2012, 12:16 AM
Already? Here we go.
Yeah, baby!

I'm in... :D

paul_in_london
April 27th, 2012, 12:19 AM
Yeah, baby!

I'm in... :D

Greetings Vin - the usual suspects! :)

effenberg0x0
April 27th, 2012, 12:21 AM
I have just upgraded.


[20:09:42] ahsl@AL-DESK01:[~]: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[...]

Fetched 22.8 MB in 2min 15s (168 kB/s)
Reading package lists... Done
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
cpp-4.7 g++-4.7 gcc-4.7 gcc-4.7-base gcc-4.7-base:i386 libitm1 libstdc++6-4.7-dev python3 python3-minimal
python3.2 python3.2-minimal
The following packages will be upgraded:
base-files cpp g++ gcc libgcc1 libgcc1:i386 libgomp1 libquadmath0 libstdc++6 lsb-base lsb-release
11 upgraded, 11 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 28.6 MB of archives.
After this operation, 74.4 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
[...]

Fetched 28.6 MB in 2min 37s (182 kB/s)



[20:12:38] ahsl@AL-DESK01:[~]: uname -a
Linux AL-DESK01 3.2.0-23-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 10 20:39:51 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:12:42] ahsl@AL-DESK01:[~]: lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu quantal (development branch)
Release: 12.10
Codename: quantal


It's slow, but doable.

Regards,
Effenberg

wojox
April 27th, 2012, 12:27 AM
w00t w00t :P

wojox@wojox-laptop:~$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu quantal (development branch)
Release: 12.10
Codename: quantal


EDIT: We moved to Main as well. :)

ventrical
April 27th, 2012, 12:43 AM
I have just upgraded.


[20:09:42] ahsl@AL-DESK01:[~]: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade[...]

Fetched 22.8 MB in 2min 15s (168 kB/s)
Reading package lists... Done
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
cpp-4.7 g++-4.7 gcc-4.7 gcc-4.7-base gcc-4.7-base:i386 libitm1 libstdc++6-4.7-dev python3 python3-minimal
python3.2 python3.2-minimal
The following packages will be upgraded:
base-files cpp g++ gcc libgcc1 libgcc1:i386 libgomp1 libquadmath0 libstdc++6 lsb-base lsb-release
11 upgraded, 11 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 28.6 MB of archives.
After this operation, 74.4 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y[...]

Fetched 28.6 MB in 2min 37s (182 kB/s)

[20:12:38] ahsl@AL-DESK01:[~]: uname -a
Linux AL-DESK01 3.2.0-23-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 10 20:39:51 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:12:42] ahsl@AL-DESK01:[~]: lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu quantal (development branch)
Release: 12.10
Codename: quantal
It's slow, but doable.

Regards,
Effenberg


I did ,

sudo apt-get upgrade ... then it gave me 560MBs to download and I said yes :(

ventrical
April 27th, 2012, 12:45 AM
Yeah, baby!

I'm in... :D


Good to see you Vin!

The joints a jumpin ! :)

xebian
April 27th, 2012, 12:53 AM
Wow. The main page says it's closed but looks I've been fooled. :)

xebian
April 27th, 2012, 12:54 AM
Just wondering if cinnamon will be in universe at least instead of just in ppa?

VinDSL
April 27th, 2012, 12:57 AM
Good to see you Vin!

The joints a jumpin ! :)
Yep! I guess we're testing junkies! LoL!

Gotta go massage my sources list... BBL

ventrical
April 27th, 2012, 01:22 AM
How sweet it is...

Unpacking replacement lsb-base ...
Setting up lsb-base (4.0-0ubuntu22) ...
dale@dale-desktop:~$ uname -a
Linux dale-desktop 3.2.0-23-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 10 20:41:14 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
dale@dale-desktop:~$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu quantal (development branch)
Release: 12.10
Codename: quantal
dale@dale-desktop:~$

ventrical
April 27th, 2012, 01:23 AM
Yep! I guess we're testing junkies! LoL!

Gotta go massage my sources list... BBL

Addicted to breakage and the smell of overheated GPUs .. ehehaehaehaeha Muhahaha..:)

Starks
April 27th, 2012, 01:28 AM
As I suspected. Not even a single day before the toolchain was uploaded. I was hoping I'd have something to QQ about.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11867398#post11867398



The toolchain could be up within minutes of release.

It's getting uploaded sooner with each cycle.

There might not even be a full day where I run stable Ubuntu anymore.


eric@kingfisher:~$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu quantal (development branch)
Release: 12.10
Codename: quantal

VinDSL
April 27th, 2012, 01:48 AM
As I suspected. Not even a single day before the toolchain was uploaded.
I'll be upset, if I don't grenade my install by Midnight!

Think I'll go wipe my local folder... :)

grahammechanical
April 27th, 2012, 01:48 AM
I am in.


graham@Testing:~$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu quantal (development branch)
Release: 12.10
Codename: quantal

VinDSL
April 27th, 2012, 01:50 AM
Oops! Almost forgot...


vindsl@Zuul:~$ echo && date && lsb_release -sd || cat /etc/*release && uname -s -r && unity --version && echo && /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p -f || echo && dpkg -s mesa-utils && echo

Thu Apr 26 17:49:44 MST 2012
Ubuntu quantal (development branch)
Linux 3.4.0-030400rc4-generic
unity 5.10.0

OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 7600 GT/AGP/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 2.1.2 NVIDIA 295.40

Not software rendered: yes
Not blacklisted: yes
GLX fbconfig: yes
GLX texture from pixmap: yes
GL npot or rect textures: yes
GL vertex program: yes
GL fragment program: yes
GL vertex buffer object: yes
GL framebuffer object: yes
GL version is 1.4+: yes

Unity 3D supported: yes
Package: mesa-utils
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: x11
Installed-Size: 132
Maintainer: Ubuntu X-SWAT <ubuntu-x@lists.ubuntu.com>
Architecture: i386
Source: mesa-demos
Version: 8.0.1+git20110129+d8f7d6b-0ubuntu2
Replaces: xbase-clients (<< 6.8.2-38)
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4), libgl1-mesa-glx | libgl1, libx11-6
Description: Miscellaneous Mesa GL utilities
This package provides several basic GL utilities built by Mesa, including
glxinfo and glxgears.
Homepage: http://mesa3d.sourceforge.net/

Starks
April 27th, 2012, 02:46 AM
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+queue?queue_state=3&queue_text=
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+queue

Follow the packages in realtime.

VinDSL
April 27th, 2012, 03:05 AM
Heh! I broke Synaptic already!

I'm getting the good ol'...


"REPOSITORIES CHANGED
The repository information has changed. You have to click on the 'Reload' button for your changes to take effect."

...error dialog, when I try to view the repos. :guitar:

codingman
April 27th, 2012, 04:24 AM
I did what cariboo told me but nothing seems to be different. I'm sorry it's late and I can't think.

cpatrick08
April 27th, 2012, 05:08 AM
why does https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal say derived from wheezy I thought that non lts releases used debian unstable as base wheezy is testing

cariboo907
April 27th, 2012, 05:21 AM
Heh! I broke Synaptic already!

I'm getting the good ol'...



...error dialog, when I try to view the repos. :guitar:

Try this:


gksudo gedit /usr/share/python-apt/templates/Ubuntu.info

after the intro stanza and before "Suite: oneiric" cupy and paste <insert the following text>


Suite: quantal
RepositoryType: deb
BaseURI: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
MatchURI: archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
BaseURI-powerpc: http://ports.ubuntu.com/
MatchURI-powerpc: ports.ubuntu.com|archive.ubuntu.com
BaseURI-lpia: http://ports.ubuntu.com/
MatchURI-lpia: ports.ubuntu.com|archive.ubuntu.com
MirrorsFile-amd64: /usr/share/python-apt/templates/Ubuntu.mirrors
MirrorsFile-i386: /usr/share/python-apt/templates/Ubuntu.mirrors
Description: Ubuntu 12.04 'quantal Pangolin'
Component: main
CompDescription: Officially supported
CompDescriptionLong: Canonical-supported Open Source software
Component: universe
CompDescription: Community-maintained
CompDescriptionLong: Community-maintained Open Source software
Component: restricted
CompDescription: Non-free drivers
CompDescriptionLong: Proprietary drivers for devices
Component: multiverse
CompDescription: Restricted software
CompDescriptionLong: Software restricted by copyright or legal issues

Suite: quantal
MatchName: .*
BaseURI: cdrom:\[Ubuntu.*12.04
MatchURI: cdrom:\[Ubuntu.*12.04
Description: Cdrom with Ubuntu 12.04 'quantal Pangolin'
Available: False
Component: main
CompDescription: Officially supported
Component: restricted
CompDescription: Restricted copyright

Suite: quantal-security
ParentSuite: quantal
RepositoryType: deb
BaseURI: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
MatchURI: archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu|security.ubuntu.com
BaseURI-powerpc: http://ports.ubuntu.com/
MatchURI-powerpc: ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
BaseURI-lpia: http://ports.ubuntu.com/
MatchURI-lpia: ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
Description: Important security updates

Suite: quantal-updates
ParentSuite: quantal
RepositoryType: deb
Description: Recommended updates

Suite: quantal-proposed
ParentSuite: quantal
RepositoryType: deb
Description: Pre-released updates

Suite: quantal-backports
ParentSuite: quantal
RepositoryType: deb

Thanks to arpnaut's original post here (http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11347739&postcount=14)

I changed all instances from precise to quantal, it works for me. :)

arpanaut
April 27th, 2012, 06:38 AM
I don't know if it is important but I also changed four other entries:

To->

Description: Ubuntu 12.10 'Quantal Quetzal'


BaseURI: cdrom:\[Ubuntu.*12.10
MatchURI: cdrom:\[Ubuntu.*12.10
Description: Cdrom with Ubuntu 12.10 'Quantal Quetzal'
That would make the correct copy and paste as:


Suite: quantal
RepositoryType: deb
BaseURI: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
MatchURI: archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
BaseURI-powerpc: http://ports.ubuntu.com/
MatchURI-powerpc: ports.ubuntu.com|archive.ubuntu.com
BaseURI-lpia: http://ports.ubuntu.com/
MatchURI-lpia: ports.ubuntu.com|archive.ubuntu.com
MirrorsFile-amd64: /usr/share/python-apt/templates/Ubuntu.mirrors
MirrorsFile-i386: /usr/share/python-apt/templates/Ubuntu.mirrors
Description: Ubuntu 12.10 'Quantal Quetzal'
Component: main
CompDescription: Officially supported
CompDescriptionLong: Canonical-supported Open Source software
Component: universe
CompDescription: Community-maintained
CompDescriptionLong: Community-maintained Open Source software
Component: restricted
CompDescription: Non-free drivers
CompDescriptionLong: Proprietary drivers for devices
Component: multiverse
CompDescription: Restricted software
CompDescriptionLong: Software restricted by copyright or legal issues

Suite: quantal
MatchName: .*
BaseURI: cdrom:\[Ubuntu.*12.10
MatchURI: cdrom:\[Ubuntu.*12.10
Description: Cdrom with Ubuntu 12.10 'Quantal Quetzal'
Available: False
Component: main
CompDescription: Officially supported
Component: restricted
CompDescription: Restricted copyright

Suite: quantal-security
ParentSuite: quantal
RepositoryType: deb
BaseURI: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
MatchURI: archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu|security.ubuntu.com
BaseURI-powerpc: http://ports.ubuntu.com/
MatchURI-powerpc: ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
BaseURI-lpia: http://ports.ubuntu.com/
MatchURI-lpia: ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
Description: Important security updates

Suite: quantal-updates
ParentSuite: quantal
RepositoryType: deb
Description: Recommended updates

Suite: quantal-proposed
ParentSuite: quantal
RepositoryType: deb
Description: Pre-released updates

Suite: quantal-backports
ParentSuite: quantal
RepositoryType: deb p.s.
testes@test-PP:~$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu quantal (development branch)
Release: 12.10
Codename: quantal

xebian
April 27th, 2012, 06:49 AM
Heh! I broke Synaptic already!

I'm getting the good ol'...



...error dialog, when I try to view the repos. :guitar:

Just do what it says -

You have to click on the 'Reload' button for your changes to take effect

cariboo907
April 27th, 2012, 07:20 AM
I don't know if it is important but I also changed four other entries:

To->

Description: Ubuntu 12.10 'Quantal Quetzal'


BaseURI: cdrom:\[Ubuntu.*12.10
MatchURI: cdrom:\[Ubuntu.*12.10
Description: Cdrom with Ubuntu 12.10 'Quantal Quetzal'
That would make the correct copy and paste as:


Suite: quantal
RepositoryType: deb
BaseURI: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
MatchURI: archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
BaseURI-powerpc: http://ports.ubuntu.com/
MatchURI-powerpc: ports.ubuntu.com|archive.ubuntu.com
BaseURI-lpia: http://ports.ubuntu.com/
MatchURI-lpia: ports.ubuntu.com|archive.ubuntu.com
MirrorsFile-amd64: /usr/share/python-apt/templates/Ubuntu.mirrors
MirrorsFile-i386: /usr/share/python-apt/templates/Ubuntu.mirrors
Description: Ubuntu 12.10 'Quantal Quetzal'
Component: main
CompDescription: Officially supported
CompDescriptionLong: Canonical-supported Open Source software
Component: universe
CompDescription: Community-maintained
CompDescriptionLong: Community-maintained Open Source software
Component: restricted
CompDescription: Non-free drivers
CompDescriptionLong: Proprietary drivers for devices
Component: multiverse
CompDescription: Restricted software
CompDescriptionLong: Software restricted by copyright or legal issues

Suite: quantal
MatchName: .*
BaseURI: cdrom:\[Ubuntu.*12.10
MatchURI: cdrom:\[Ubuntu.*12.10
Description: Cdrom with Ubuntu 12.10 'Quantal Quetzal'
Available: False
Component: main
CompDescription: Officially supported
Component: restricted
CompDescription: Restricted copyright

Suite: quantal-security
ParentSuite: quantal
RepositoryType: deb
BaseURI: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
MatchURI: archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu|security.ubuntu.com
BaseURI-powerpc: http://ports.ubuntu.com/
MatchURI-powerpc: ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
BaseURI-lpia: http://ports.ubuntu.com/
MatchURI-lpia: ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
Description: Important security updates

Suite: quantal-updates
ParentSuite: quantal
RepositoryType: deb
Description: Recommended updates

Suite: quantal-proposed
ParentSuite: quantal
RepositoryType: deb
Description: Pre-released updates

Suite: quantal-backports
ParentSuite: quantal
RepositoryType: deb p.s.
testes@test-PP:~$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu quantal (development branch)
Release: 12.10
Codename: quantal

Thanks again. arpanaut

zika
April 27th, 2012, 09:14 AM
Going on a trip and coming back on evening 6th of May. Do not break too much stuff! I'll catch toolchain then... Have a good time!

ventrical
April 27th, 2012, 09:39 AM
Have a great time zika...

We'll try to keep things organized hehehe

ventrical
April 27th, 2012, 09:46 AM
Oops! Almost forgot...


vindsl@Zuul:~$ echo && date && lsb_release -sd || cat /etc/*release && uname -s -r && unity --version && echo && /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p -f || echo && dpkg -s mesa-utils && echo

Thu Apr 26 17:49:44 MST 2012
Ubuntu quantal (development branch)
Linux 3.4.0-030400rc4-generic
unity 5.10.0

OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 7600 GT/AGP/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 2.1.2 NVIDIA 295.40

Not software rendered: yes
Not blacklisted: yes
GLX fbconfig: yes
GLX texture from pixmap: yes
GL npot or rect textures: yes
GL vertex program: yes
GL fragment program: yes
GL vertex buffer object: yes
GL framebuffer object: yes
GL version is 1.4+: yes

Unity 3D supported: yes
Package: mesa-utils
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: x11
Installed-Size: 132
Maintainer: Ubuntu X-SWAT <ubuntu-x@lists.ubuntu.com>
Architecture: i386
Source: mesa-demos
Version: 8.0.1+git20110129+d8f7d6b-0ubuntu2
Replaces: xbase-clients (<< 6.8.2-38)
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4), libgl1-mesa-glx | libgl1, libx11-6
Description: Miscellaneous Mesa GL utilities
This package provides several basic GL utilities built by Mesa, including
glxinfo and glxgears.
Homepage: http://mesa3d.sourceforge.net/



Here's mine :) haha..


Fri Apr 27 04:44:13 EDT 2012
Ubuntu quantal (development branch)
Linux 3.2.0-23-generic
unity 5.10.0

OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce G210/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 295.40

Not software rendered: yes
Not blacklisted: yes
GLX fbconfig: yes
GLX texture from pixmap: yes
GL npot or rect textures: yes
GL vertex program: yes
GL fragment program: yes
GL vertex buffer object: yes
GL framebuffer object: yes
GL version is 1.4+: yes

Unity 3D supported: yes
Package: mesa-utils
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: x11
Installed-Size: 132
Maintainer: Ubuntu X-SWAT <ubuntu-x@lists.ubuntu.com>
Architecture: i386
Source: mesa-demos
Version: 8.0.1+git20110129+d8f7d6b-0ubuntu2
Replaces: xbase-clients (<< 6.8.2-38)
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4), libgl1-mesa-glx | libgl1, libx11-6
Description: Miscellaneous Mesa GL utilities
This package provides several basic GL utilities built by Mesa, including
glxinfo and glxgears.
Homepage: http://mesa3d.sourceforge.net/

dale@dale-desktop:~$

[CODE]

VinDSL
April 27th, 2012, 12:27 PM
Try this:


gksudo gedit /usr/share/python-apt/templates/Ubuntu.info

after the intro stanza and before "Suite: oneiric" cupy and paste <insert the following text>

Thanks to arpnaut's original post here (http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11347739&postcount=14)

I changed all instances from precise to quantal, it works for me. :)


I don't know if it is important but I also changed four other entries:

To->

Description: Ubuntu 12.10 'Quantal Quetzal'


BaseURI: cdrom:\[Ubuntu.*12.10
MatchURI: cdrom:\[Ubuntu.*12.10
Description: Cdrom with Ubuntu 12.10 'Quantal Quetzal'
That would make the correct copy and paste as:


Suite: quantal
RepositoryType: deb
BaseURI: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
MatchURI: archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
BaseURI-powerpc: http://ports.ubuntu.com/
MatchURI-powerpc: ports.ubuntu.com|archive.ubuntu.com
BaseURI-lpia: http://ports.ubuntu.com/
MatchURI-lpia: ports.ubuntu.com|archive.ubuntu.com
MirrorsFile-amd64: /usr/share/python-apt/templates/Ubuntu.mirrors
MirrorsFile-i386: /usr/share/python-apt/templates/Ubuntu.mirrors
Description: Ubuntu 12.10 'Quantal Quetzal'
Component: main
CompDescription: Officially supported
CompDescriptionLong: Canonical-supported Open Source software
Component: universe
CompDescription: Community-maintained
CompDescriptionLong: Community-maintained Open Source software
Component: restricted
CompDescription: Non-free drivers
CompDescriptionLong: Proprietary drivers for devices
Component: multiverse
CompDescription: Restricted software
CompDescriptionLong: Software restricted by copyright or legal issues

Suite: quantal
MatchName: .*
BaseURI: cdrom:\[Ubuntu.*12.10
MatchURI: cdrom:\[Ubuntu.*12.10
Description: Cdrom with Ubuntu 12.10 'Quantal Quetzal'
Available: False
Component: main
CompDescription: Officially supported
Component: restricted
CompDescription: Restricted copyright

Suite: quantal-security
ParentSuite: quantal
RepositoryType: deb
BaseURI: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
MatchURI: archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu|security.ubuntu.com
BaseURI-powerpc: http://ports.ubuntu.com/
MatchURI-powerpc: ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
BaseURI-lpia: http://ports.ubuntu.com/
MatchURI-lpia: ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
Description: Important security updates

Suite: quantal-updates
ParentSuite: quantal
RepositoryType: deb
Description: Recommended updates

Suite: quantal-proposed
ParentSuite: quantal
RepositoryType: deb
Description: Pre-released updates

Suite: quantal-backports
ParentSuite: quantal
RepositoryType: deb
Worked a treat!!! Thanks, guys!

You might want to spin this off to a new thread, Cariboo, so ppl can find it... ;)

VinDSL
April 27th, 2012, 12:29 PM
Going on a trip and coming back on evening 6th of May. Do not break too much stuff! I'll catch toolchain then...

Have a good time!
You too, zika! :)

jerrylamos
April 27th, 2012, 01:02 PM
Last couple releases I do
zsync latest daily build
fresh install on a pc that will install precise (precise install won't on this Thinkpad R31 which has pae flag, bug written, and my Thinkpad T40 has no pae flag, lubuntu is generic no pae but wireless doesn't, bug written)
install synaptic and "fix" software sources: add "partners" set "update" to "never"
install aptitude do sudo aptitude update, sudo aptitude safe-upgrade which put in a new kernel since daily build didn't have that day's updates & new kernel
reboot
ls /boot
sudo apt-get remove linux-image-old kernel
synaptic look for any old headers not removed by apt-get remove. There was one.
sudo apt-get clean
sudo apt-get autoclean
sudo apt-get autoremove
sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
replace precise with quantal
sudo aptitude update, sudo aptitude full-upgrade
reboot.
Then every day that pc is booted, sudo aptitude update, sudo aptitude safe-upgrade (if something doesn't get installed, full-upgrade)
Usually runs until the @#$% hits the fan with more meaty updates
Somewhere around Alpha time there'll be a .iso that might actually install, more bugs to write.

Of course, watch forums for hints, workarounds, and warnings.

Of course this is on a test partition on a couple of my test pc's. Always have partitions that will work example on my Acer Aspire-5253 I've a oneiric ocelot because release precise pangolin won't process /etc/grub.d/40_custom.....probably a bug not a showstopper since ocelot works.

Enjoy...

Jerry

ventrical
April 27th, 2012, 01:09 PM
This post is to thank each of you for your efforts, dedication and support during the PP cycle. U+1 members or not, all Ubuntu+1 testers did an amazing job in the PP cycle. I'm sure many users and members of the broader Ubuntu community are grateful of your work.

I thought people would be more excited about this by now: We're moving from a sub-forum placed in a slightly hidden area of UbuntuForums to the main category!

It doesn't sound like much, but it means not only Ubuntu+1 grew in size and quality, but is now also recognized as one of UF's main areas. We will be more visible and accessible to users and the Ubuntu community. That's a honor and it comes with increased responsibilities too. It's the result of everyone's hard work and great contributions. A small victory, I know, but consider it as a glimpse at the increased relevance testing/testers will have in the QQ cycle.

It's time to start breaking things again!

Regards,
Effenberg

PS: First!! LOL..

Great work effenberg. We are excited !!:):) Just busy:) I already started tearing up a few pCs around here :)

edgarf28
April 27th, 2012, 01:35 PM
How can I install the newest fglrx driver on kernel 3.4 rc4 for my AMD videocard? If I do install fglrx, then my computer doesn't boot anymore :(

bmbaker
April 27th, 2012, 01:49 PM
Hi Hi :-)
Decided to join in the fun of Breakage :-) :-)

cecilpierce
April 27th, 2012, 01:58 PM
@cariboo907

Thanks for the copy & paste, I just noticed something I dont remember seeing in Updates: None (Quantal-backports)
Is this new or I have CRS ?

Mathor
April 27th, 2012, 02:00 PM
Is it okay to run my updates through Synaptic? I always do that from alpha onwards, but is there any real difference pre-release. I got all of the same updates that paul has mentioned doing it that way.

sgage
April 27th, 2012, 02:20 PM
Well, I'm all moved into Quantal. Seems a lot like Precise :KS

I wonder when serious breakage will begin...

effenberg0x0
April 27th, 2012, 02:29 PM
Great work effenberg. We are excited !!:):) Just busy:) I already started tearing up a few pCs around here :)

Hi Ventrical, everyone

We should thank UbuntuForums Council Members that voted and approved this change (cariboo907, bodhi_zazen, Iowan, Coffeecat, s-fox). My role in it was just asking.

Regards,
Effenberg

ventrical
April 27th, 2012, 03:36 PM
Hi Ventrical, everyone

We should thank UbuntuForums Council Members that voted and approved this change (cariboo907, bodhi_zazen, Iowan, Coffeecat, s-fox). My role in it was just asking.

Regards,
Effenberg

Thank you Cariboo907, bodhi_zazen, Iowan, Coffeecat, s-fox.

Regards, Ventrical

arpanaut
April 27th, 2012, 04:15 PM
We should thank UbuntuForums Council Members that voted and approved this change (cariboo907, bodhi_zazen, Iowan, Coffeecat, s-fox).

Yes, Thank You!

But as a caveat to that, with the added traffic and participation that this change will bring.
We all must remember to "Mind our Manners" and make the effort to be accommodating, informative, and tolerant of different skill levels & opinion.
With every action, please remember the Code of Conduct. If the goal is to bring more members into "testing",
for this to succeed this is a must!

IMHO

bodhi.zazen
April 27th, 2012, 04:50 PM
Thank you Cariboo907, bodhi_zazen, Iowan, Coffeecat, s-fox.

Regards, Ventrical

This was the obvious next step.


Yes, Thank You!

But as a caveat to that, with the added traffic and participation that this change will bring.
We all must remember to "Mind our Manners" and make the effort to be accommodating, informative, and tolerant of different skill levels & opinion.
With every action, please remember the Code of Conduct. If the goal is to bring more members into "testing",
for this to succeed this is a must!

IMHO

We have been working for a long time to integrate the forums with the Greater Ubuntu community.

The collaboration of testers and developers is of great benefit to the community.

During this next cycle it would be ideal of some of you would be willing to facilitate bug reporting, my suggestion is to join the bug squad. Learning to triage bugs would be of enormous benefit to smooth the process of :

Testers -> problem identified -> appropriate bug report made -> reduce number of dups / post work around -> triage bug to developers for review.

Understanding the process is helpful in facilitating problems identified in this section -> bug reports -> fix.

With all these change we need to improve relations with testers and developers, work within the framework to improve it.

Please be mindful of the range of experience of people who post here, we need to keep it welcoming to new users, new testers, experienced testers, bug squad, and developers ;)

effenberg0x0
April 27th, 2012, 05:26 PM
During OO cycle we simply moved all support threads off Ubuntu+1. When Mark decided to keep the development releases usable at all times to stimulate testing, we started to have DRs users (not testers) and began offering support to them. That was by the beginning of PP.

I believe we did a good work with support on PP. Many of the new testers that joined this community were users asking for support. I think having DR users and offering them support was good for us, and it will continue to be.

As I mentioned in my original post, we are more visible and accessible now, and that comes with a responsibility, as bodhi.zazen mentioned. But we also have a responsibility to keep discussions here focused on the development release. In this sense, everyone should report threads and posts that do not apply to QQ, so they are properly moved to other areas by the forum staff.


During this next cycle it would be ideal of some of you would be willing to facilitate bug reporting, my suggestion is to join the bug squad. Learning to triage bugs would be of enormous benefit to smooth the process of :

Testers -> problem identified -> appropriate bug report made -> reduce number of dups / post work around -> triage bug to developers for review.

Understanding the process is helpful in facilitating problems identified in this section -> bug reports -> fix.

With all these change we need to improve relations with testers and developers, work within the framework to improve it.


I agree we do have a need for better Bug Reports. Not sure about Bug Squad though.

I'm particularly curious about the Quality/QA approach and strategy to be announced at UDS. While QATeam focuses on a broad range of activities and large-sized initiatives focusing the distro as a whole (ISO-Testing, for example), I share a vision with Nick that U+1 could/should focus on specific tasks/problems/packages. Ex: We have problems with failed Ubuntu installs for many cycles, including this one. We can focus on filtering LP reports about Ubiquity and related packages, test them in-depth, report results to developers, work to fix this particular problem and then move on to another task/problem/package. A small, organized and collaborative community such as this one has the ability to work in such a way. We can get past the "work", "don't work" and study, learn together, provide more insight to developers. Having many brains work at specific "big issues", one by one, looks like a powerful strategy.

Regards,
Effenberg

josephmills
April 27th, 2012, 05:36 PM
I can not say how cool ubuntu now files its bugs. It is jaw dropping.

Here is a video on how to file a bug for Ubuntu 12.04 (the New way)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=495V7FokwBU&webm=1

VinDSL
April 27th, 2012, 07:09 PM
I wonder when serious breakage will begin...
Usually, breakage starts around alpha-1. We should be safe, at least, until the devs get back from UDS.

They'll probably just be sync'ing up with the Debian repos for a while.

Pre-alpha, in my experience, is as good as it gets... the calm before the storm. ;)

effenberg0x0
April 27th, 2012, 07:27 PM
Yes, and there are more options like that to come. I think Nick will present some of these soon, probably at UDS (not sure). I'm anxious to see what will be presented there. There are cool tools and stuff under development.

If you read Mark's announcement of QQ (http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1121), there's no mention of humans in quality/testing (testers, triagers, etc). Developers can take care of quality in source code and there are tools to ensure that. And end-users can report bugs automatically via tools too, many times without even comprehending what will be reported and/or noticing they're doing that. The whole thing can happen automagically. And then there's the cloud, which helps hugely in all aspects.

That goes to prove that with enough money and coders, the need for community involvement gets minimal. We can't replace developers (yet!) but automation goes a long way :)

Regards,
Effenberg

effenberg0x0
April 27th, 2012, 07:30 PM
Usually, breakage starts around alpha-1. We should be safe, at least, until the devs get back from UDS.

They'll probably just be sync'ing up with the Debian repos for a while.

Pre-alpha, in my experience, is as good as it gets... the calm before the storm. ;)

The period from Alpha1 to Alpha2 was the best IMO. I needed workarounds to run mostly anything lol. But I *think* this cycle will not be like that.

Regards,
Effenberg

cariboo907
April 27th, 2012, 08:05 PM
For us old hands I don't need to say this, even though the devs have promised that there will be as little breakage as possible, you should still have a backup installation of a stable version, just in case there is major breakage during the development cycle.

I've also put a revised sticky.

grahammechanical
April 27th, 2012, 09:26 PM
@effenberg0x0


We can't replace developers (yet!)

After just 2 days on the support parts of the forum, I ask: When will we replace end users? :)

It seems that the wrong people were ISO testing. All these having problems installing, upgrading should have been doing the testing.

Regards.

bodhi.zazen
April 27th, 2012, 09:57 PM
@effenberg0x0



After just 2 days on the support parts of the forum, I ask: When will we replace end users? :)

It seems that the wrong people were ISO testing. All these having problems installing, upgrading should have been doing the testing.

Regards.

:shock: are you a developer ?

VinDSL
April 27th, 2012, 11:30 PM
The period from Alpha1 to Alpha2 was the best IMO. I needed workarounds to run mostly anything lol. But I *think* this cycle will not be like that.

Regards,
Effenberg
Yes, well...

I suppose it all depends on your definition of "best". :D

Chaos & Mayhem are my "best" friends, so yes, you would be correct, IMO.

Devs tend to be conservative when it comes to LTS releases. And, I judge Precise to have been a snooze.

I'm expecting "better" times ahead, with Ubu Q...

ronacc
April 28th, 2012, 03:20 AM
After a day long epic battle with both ubiquity and parted I finaly got a working version of precise release installed and updated to quantal . I really have doubts if precise was ready for release ! I think as we start the march to the next LTS a top priority above ALL else is to dump ubiquity and every individual part of it and produce an installer that actualy works most of the time not just on a lucky roll of the dice . The time to start that is now so that we will have a few non LTS cycles to get the bugs out .

effenberg0x0
April 28th, 2012, 04:28 AM
After a day long epic battle with both ubiquity and parted I finaly got a working version of precise release installed and updated to quantal . I really have doubts if precise was ready for release ! I think as we start the march to the next LTS a top priority above ALL else is to dump ubiquity and every individual part of it and produce an installer that actualy works most of the time not just on a lucky roll of the dice . The time to start that is now so that we will have a few non LTS cycles to get the bugs out .

Hi Ron, I agree with you about the severity of the problems that impact installing Ubuntu. Have a look at these two links:

- Count the number of mentions to Ubiquity. It's clearly the most mentioned package.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ReleaseReports/PreciseFinalTestReport

- Nonetheless, maybe it's time to add more critical functions to Ubiquity:
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-q-third-party-driver-installation

So, glass half empty || half full. How do we look at that blueprint? I don't trust Ubiquity or Jockey at this point. I think they should be fixed before we even consider adding features to any of them.

My personal view: We don't really know what the focus will be on this cycle. Beautiful speeches, posts and etc are one thing, reality is another. Maybe we'll have yet another UI/UX-oriented cycle? Who knows. And, even if we don't, we risk having important and very basic bugs persisting once again.

That is, unless someone does something relevant, a coordinated effort. And I strongly believe we can be that someone. I think it's time for us to, as a newly formed, legacy-free, motivated team of experienced users, to step up and do some elite work. Put our brains together into a single project and have something huge to be proud of by the end of this cycle.

See my post in this thread at http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11879600&postcount=58 . I mention what I consider to be the three most basic broken areas.

If we, together, could focus on these highly critical bugs for a while, those 3 "pillars" of the distro, we can greatly increase the chances of getting it fixed for QQ.

Next week I'll propose that to the team via Mailing List, along with a suggested schedule and some ideas for specific needs/tasks. All targeted at Ubiquity, Jockey, Plymouth. I am sure we can make a difference. We can do and achieve whatever we want to in Ubuntu. The only thing we need is to have enough people involved and working together for a single goal.

Regards,
Effenberg

Starks
April 28th, 2012, 06:59 AM
I really hope QQ gets the 3.5 kernel.

First stage of Optimus support is supposed to land. I don't expect the necessary X work to make it thought.

VinDSL
April 28th, 2012, 12:40 PM
I don't expect the necessary X work to make it though.
edgers has been doing a great job lately -- keeping abreast of things.

They're an odd lot!

Sometimes I won't use their PPA for months, because all it does is throw a wrench in the works. Other times, I couldn't live without them.

I can state, for a fact, that if it wasn't for edgers, Linux 3.4 wouldn't be working on this machine... ;)

Sableyes
April 28th, 2012, 12:55 PM
*Blows dust off an old 80 gig IDE hard drive* Hmmm been a while scince I beta'd and broked my PC....

Does just reporting bugs help or is more than that expected of beta users?

ronacc
April 28th, 2012, 01:25 PM
good bug reports are the foundation upon which fixes are built . so yes they help greatly , anything else you can do is "frosting on the cake" .
Welcome aboard !

Sableyes
April 28th, 2012, 01:36 PM
Got 2 weeks of Distance Learning coursework to do (I.E. Cant bodge up my PC just yet, and dont have time to play!) then I shall purchase a ticket and come aboard the Beta Bus then ^^

Ding ding all aboard! ^^

ronacc
April 28th, 2012, 01:48 PM
don't worry you won't miss much , not alot happens before UDS ( see release schedule) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule .

grahammechanical
April 28th, 2012, 02:27 PM
I just had a peek over at Askubuntu. Someone there installed the tool chain ppa from Launchpad and got a shock to find that precise was now reporting itself as quantal.

Wait 'til he finds that he now has the quantal repositories. I did warn to check his software sources.

Regards

vasa1
April 28th, 2012, 02:45 PM
IIRC, when first testing versions of Precise were available they were only for 64-bit computers. Is that correct? And, if correct, will QQ also be available for testing only on 64-bit systems initially?

sgage
April 28th, 2012, 03:41 PM
IIRC, when first testing versions of Precise were available they were only for 64-bit computers. Is that correct? And, if correct, will QQ also be available for testing only on 64-bit systems initially?

I upgraded a 32-bit Precise to Quantal without any problem. I don't know if they offer only 64-bit at first once they start making daily builds available. (When will that be - anyone know?)

ronacc
April 28th, 2012, 04:37 PM
AFAIK the only way to get quantal right now is by upgrading precise , the toolchain is there but no builds yet unless there is one on LP .

grahammechanical
April 28th, 2012, 05:53 PM
Alpha 1 comes out 7th June. The ISOs will be up for testing before that. The place to keep an eye on during May is here:

http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/

See what QA have to offer as the days progress.

Regards.

sgage
April 28th, 2012, 06:06 PM
Alpha 1 comes out 7th June. The ISOs will be up for testing before that. The place to keep an eye on during May is here:

http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/

See what QA have to offer as the days progress.

Regards.

Thanks for the link, Graham.

xebian
April 28th, 2012, 06:16 PM
AFAIK the only way to get quantal right now is by upgrading precise , the toolchain is there but no builds yet unless there is one on LP .

It's more or less precise but there is a build here

http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/

MacUntu
April 28th, 2012, 08:04 PM
The place to keep an eye on during May is here
It's even easier: Subscribe to ISO testing and you'll get notified about all new images available for testing. :)

ronacc
April 28th, 2012, 08:36 PM
how do I change the name the installer gave my computer ? I had told it to call it ron-desktop2 dut it dropped the 2 and ron-desktop conflicts with my workbox .

Harry33
April 28th, 2012, 09:07 PM
The information is in the file /etc/hostname

You can use text editor with super do rights:


gksu gedit /etc/hostname

ronacc
April 28th, 2012, 09:25 PM
thanks

jbicha
April 28th, 2012, 11:09 PM
Until quantal actually opens for developers to make uploads (notice that https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal still lists the status as Frozen) and the policy of fixing things in the development version before the stable release takes effect, you need to make sure you keep precise-updates and precise-security in your sources.list. If you like testing, you'll want precise-proposed too (-proposed of course still has the archive skew problem where stuff built on the 32-bit and 64-bit builders aren't published at the same time).

There are newer versions of software in those precise repositories than the quantal ones.

bradleyjones
April 29th, 2012, 02:38 AM
Looking forward to joining you all for some quantal action over the next few month

Miykel
April 29th, 2012, 02:43 PM
G'Day; I think I got the upgrade right, first time, I run the lsb_release -a;

miykel@miykel-H61M-USB3-B3:~$ uname -a
Linux miykel-H61M-USB3-B3 3.2.0-24-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 25 08:43:22 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
miykel@miykel-H61M-USB3-B3:~$ lsb_release -a
LSB Version: core-2.0-amd64:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-amd64:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-amd64:core-3.1-noarch:core-3.2-amd64:core-3.2-noarch:core-4.0-amd64:core-4.0-noarch
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu quantal (development branch)
Release: 12.10
Codename: quantal
miykel@miykel-H61M-USB3-B3:~$

Does this mean the upgrade worked ?? why when I go to System settings/details it still says 12.04 ??
Regards Miykel

ronacc
April 29th, 2012, 03:14 PM
yes you are ok , I'm showing the same thing in system settings/detail .
have a look at system monitor/system .

Miykel
April 29th, 2012, 10:46 PM
Thanks ronacc; It's running like a dream at present, will there be an iso release soon ??, be nice to have a disc to reload from when it goes bang.
Regards Miykel

xebian
April 29th, 2012, 11:07 PM
G'Day; I think I got the upgrade right, first time, I run the lsb_release -a;

miykel@miykel-H61M-USB3-B3:~$ uname -a
Linux miykel-H61M-USB3-B3 3.2.0-24-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 25 08:43:22 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
miykel@miykel-H61M-USB3-B3:~$ lsb_release -a
LSB Version: core-2.0-amd64:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-amd64:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-amd64:core-3.1-noarch:core-3.2-amd64:core-3.2-noarch:core-4.0-amd64:core-4.0-noarch
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu quantal (development branch)
Release: 12.10
Codename: quantal
miykel@miykel-H61M-USB3-B3:~$

Does this mean the upgrade worked ?? why when I go to System settings/details it still says 12.04 ??
Regards Miykel

Because that's hard coded image of the UbuntuLogo from 12.04

xebian
April 29th, 2012, 11:14 PM
Thanks ronacc; It's running like a dream at present, will there be an iso release soon ??, be nice to have a disc to reload from when it goes bang.
Regards Miykel

AFAIK the 1st Alpha will be sometime in June? There will be daily live build before then which you can find in cdimages.ubuntu.com

MG&TL
April 29th, 2012, 11:36 PM
Having spent ages working out how to upgrade, then figuring out how to do it myself, then realising you guys had already posted, I am now on the development drip again.

Geronimo!

VinDSL
April 30th, 2012, 03:06 AM
I am now on the development drip again.

Geronimo!
LoL! :D

caryb
April 30th, 2012, 07:06 AM
Will be so nice to get away from LTS (boring release) to general release so we can play with interesting new toys :)

Cary

ronacc
April 30th, 2012, 09:08 PM
another proposal to be started early in the runup to a new LTS is to return to the ease of configuration that Ubuntu/Gnome one time had . The situation as it stands now is totaly intolerable .To do a simple thing like changing the icon that appears in the launcher for an app requires either writing your own custom .desktop or else hacking the existing one or replacing the existing icon ( if you can find it ) . And exactly how many newbes ( the supposed target audience ) will be able to do that . The simplification has gone too far and needs to be reversed , we are getting to the point where Ubuntu is very close to becomming not worth the bother .

sgage
May 1st, 2012, 12:02 AM
another proposal to be started early in the runup to a new LTS is to return to the ease of configuration that Ubuntu/Gnome one time had . The situation as it stands now is totaly intolerable .To do a simple thing like changing the icon that appears in the launcher for an app requires either writing your own custom .desktop or else hacking the existing one or replacing the existing icon ( if you can find it ) . And exactly how many newbes ( the supposed target audience ) will be able to do that . The simplification has gone too far and needs to be reversed , we are getting to the point where Ubuntu is very close to becomming not worth the bother .

I agree. I confess that I can't understand why it was felt necessary to just gut all configuration options.

The simplification has gone way too far.

Mathor
May 1st, 2012, 12:09 AM
I agree. I confess that I can't understand why it was felt necessary to just gut all configuration options.

The simplification has gone way too far.

For the most part it's fine the way it is. Simple things though, like if I see a file in the dash, obviously right clicking it does nothing. All I can do is click on it and open it. At the very least, if they do not want to add file management to the dash, then have a "open file in nautilus" right click option.

cariboo907
May 1st, 2012, 03:22 AM
There are changes afoot, that will make it easier for developers that aren't Ubuntu Developers, or MTU's to get their programs in the repositories. So if there is anyone out there that wants to take on the task of creating configuration applications go for it, as there will be help available in the near future.

VinDSL
May 1st, 2012, 03:49 AM
Whoa, baby! Here we go:

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-April/035152.html

Performing 185 package upgrades, as I type... :D

arpanaut
May 1st, 2012, 06:50 AM
Holy fan hitting flotsam, Batman!

Here we go...

Argh... wants to remove ubuntu-desktop, think I'll pass 'till tomorrow. :-\"

edit: looks like libatk-adaptor is the offending package.
So sudo apt-get upgrade allows 134 pkg. and holds that.
finishes fine, no removals, now in synaptic it is another story.

ventrical
May 1st, 2012, 08:56 AM
Same here. Even extreme-tux-racer and Brutal Chess (I use those games to test older machines) is getting upgraded.! :)

The fun begins :)

ventrical
May 1st, 2012, 09:41 AM
Ok.. that update blew away my desktop. I only have terminal from boot. I did recovery from GRUB. No go.

I was using GDM, not Unity-greeter.

Any ideas :)

pressureman
May 1st, 2012, 09:44 AM
Ok.. that update blew away my desktop. I only have terminal from boot. I did recovery from GRUB. No go.

I was using GDM, not Unity-greeter.

Any ideas :)

Downgrade libxfont1 to the most recent version from precise. Fixed it for me.

ventrical
May 1st, 2012, 09:52 AM
Downgrade libxfont1 to the most recent version from precise. Fixed it for me.


How can I do that from terminal?
Do you have sudo code?
?

pressureman
May 1st, 2012, 10:00 AM
How can I do that from terminal?
Do you have sudo code?
?

Replace amd64 with i386 if you're running 32 bit.



wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libx/libxfont/libxfont1_1.4.4-1_amd64.deb
sudo dpkg -i libxfont1_1.4.4-1_amd64.deb


If you have to ask for "sudo code", perhaps you shouldn't be running a pre-alpha version of Ubuntu... unless your style of learning is trial by fire ;-)

Harry33
May 1st, 2012, 10:19 AM
Downgrade libxfont1 to the most recent version from precise. Fixed it for me.

Yes there is something wrong with that new version of the xfont library.

ventrical
May 1st, 2012, 10:48 AM
Replace amd64 with i386 if you're running 32 bit.



wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libx/libxfont/libxfont1_1.4.4-1_amd64.deb
sudo dpkg -i libxfont1_1.4.4-1_amd64.deb
If you have to ask for "sudo code", perhaps you shouldn't be running a pre-alpha version of Ubuntu... unless your style of learning is trial by fire ;-)


As I said previously in another forum .. I have 9 machines here .. so trial by fire is not a problem. I know it can be done in synaptic but I can't get synaptic if I do not have a desktop :)

Thanks again, it worked great.!

btw .. I'm using a KVM so I like doing those codes transfers manually.

cecilpierce
May 1st, 2012, 10:53 AM
@pressureman

Thanks, fixed it for now :p

Slackware since 1.2, still have it in the case ):P

jerrylamos
May 1st, 2012, 01:41 PM
If you have to ask for "sudo code", perhaps you shouldn't be running a pre-alpha version of Ubuntu... unless your style of learning is trial by fire ;-)
Well, a bunch of us testers (since Dapper Drake beta) aren't that familiar with "downgrading" a specific package.

I'm trying the update now - we'll see how it goes. Meanwhile copied the "downgrade" cli into an exec.

Jerry

ventrical
May 1st, 2012, 01:48 PM
Well, a bunch of us testers (since Dapper Drake beta) aren't that familiar with "downgrading" a specific package.

I'm trying the update now - we'll see how it goes. Meanwhile copied the "downgrade" cli into an exec.

Jerry


How true ... I have always done that using synaptic after learning of the specific file to be downgraded and also had a working desktop .. but there hasn't been much discussion of how to back-grade with a busted desktop.

If we don't ask , how are we supposed to know? :)

Thanks..

arpanaut
May 1st, 2012, 01:58 PM
HeHe, I should have waited, Shut down last night after getting desktop freeze-up and at start-up this AM = no desktop.
Could get to a tty through recovery and thanks to pressureman got it fixed.
Or at least I got to the lightdm login only to find an infinite loop of being kicked back to the greeter.

Found an old post by effenberg0x0 on the subject.
sudo mv ~/.Xauthority ~/.Xauthority.old
sudo service lightdm restart Which got me back in business, yay!

Thanks to both of you gentlemen! ):P

jerrylamos
May 1st, 2012, 02:13 PM
Well....being forewarned, I updated anyway, sure enough:
"Could not write bytes broken pipe"
....
"saned disabled"
....
So I did Ctrl-x, got cli, then
replaced amd64 with i386
got "cannot access archive no such file or directory"
I've no clue how to find the previous libxfont1.
Re-booted with ocelot lubuntu, will try the next suggestion above.

Jerry

Harry33
May 1st, 2012, 02:21 PM
Well....being forewarned, I updated anyway, sure enough:
"Could not write bytes broken pipe"
....
"saned disabled"
....
So I did Ctrl-x, got cli, then
replaced amd64 with i386
got "cannot access archive no such file or directory"
I've no clue how to find the previous libxfont1.
Re-booted with ocelot lubuntu, will try the next suggestion above.

Jerry

The package libxfont_1.4.4.1 is here:
1) 64-bit
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/77007687/libxfont1_1.4.4-1_amd64.deb
2) 32-bit
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/77007415/libxfont1_1.4.4-1_i386.deb

If you cannot get to the DE, use wget (from console).
After having manually downloaded the packege, use this command to install it:

sudo dpkg -i *.deb

However, see that there are no other packages in the same folder, if you do not want to install them at the same time.

ronacc
May 1st, 2012, 02:25 PM
you probably did the same thing I did :confused: mistyped the address , copy and paste the link in a browser - the libxfont1_1.4.4-1_amd64.deb and it will take you to the dir and you can download the .deb and move it to your quantal /home then sudo dpkg it there .

jerrylamos
May 1st, 2012, 02:34 PM
Still no go. I tried the Xaouthold, but this is
lubuntu quantal, what's the command to restart lubuntu's desktop?

Thanks, Jerry

3vi1
May 1st, 2012, 02:47 PM
When I was upgrading four of my systems to Quantal last week, I started pondering whether or not there was a word for those of us that like to stay so far out on the bleeding edge of distros.

At first, I was think of it in terms of people that want to be at the vanguard. But before long I developed a theory that we just like the self-inflicted pain.

Therefore, we are: cyber-cutters.

tekstr1der
May 1st, 2012, 02:48 PM
If you have to ask for "sudo code", perhaps you shouldn't be running a pre-alpha version of Ubuntu...)

@ventrical: I don't want to speak for pressureman, but I've intended to mention this same thing throughout the last cycle. As this is a forum to help other users, we'd all benefit from the use of proper terminology.

There are commands (to launch programs) which can be executed in a terminal. sudo is a command (program) itself, one which can be combined with other commands to provide privilege escalation.

Code typically refers to source code, and there certainly is "sudo code" in that regard. You can check out the sudo code here:
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/1.8.3p1-1ubuntu4

ventrical
May 1st, 2012, 02:50 PM
sudo service lxdm start


me thinks :)

ventrical
May 1st, 2012, 02:58 PM
@ventrical: I don't want to speak for pressureman, but I've intended to mention this same thing throughout the last cycle. As this is a forum to help other users, we'd all benefit from the use of proper terminology.

There are commands (to launch programs) which can be executed in a terminal. sudo is a command (program) itself, one which can be combined with other commands to provide privilege escalation.

Code typically refers to source code, and there certainly is "sudo code" in that regard. You can check out the sudo code here:
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/1.8.3p1-1ubuntu4


I realize this. In fact I have been trying to compile a list for a while now. I was just asking him what he did to get his system back . What he entered at the terminal. I thought I was clear on that. I do not mind burning a pc or two. I thought this was alpha/beta testing. I have all kinds of hardware to spare.

So I should have just asked for "the code' then? Is this what you are referring to?

Thanks anyways.

ventrical
May 1st, 2012, 03:03 PM
When I was upgrading four of my systems to Quantal last week, I started pondering whether or not there was a word for those of us that like to stay so far out on the bleeding edge of distros.

At first, I was think of it in terms of people that want to be at the vanguard. But before long I developed a theory that we just like the self-inflicted pain.

Therefore, we are: cyber-cutters.

Thats a good theory. I used to work on UniVax terminals writing in the Turing language. No GUIs there. Then I would debug MS systems and write batch files .. just code .. I just got addicted to code. Guess I'm a codeaholic or 'codie" :) I'm not an expert on Linux code thats for sure.

tekstr1der
May 1st, 2012, 03:46 PM
If you have to ask for "sudo code", perhaps you shouldn't be running a pre-alpha version of Ubuntu...)

@ventrical: I don't want to speak for pressureman, but I've intended to mention this same thing throughout the last cycle. As this is a forum to help other users, we'd all benefit from the use of proper terminology.

There are commands (to launch programs) which can be executed in a terminal. sudo is a command (program) itself, one which can be combined with other commands to provide privilege escalation.

Code typically refers to source code, and there certainly is "sudo code" in that regard. You can check out the sudo code here:
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/1.8.3p1-1ubuntu4


...So I should have just asked for "the code' then? Is this what you are referring to?...

No. The words "command" and "code" are not synonymous, nor are they interchangeable.

For example, I see you've carried over the thread you started last cycle. You should request that a moderator edit the thread title to be more accurate:


Commonly Used Sudo Code commands for (*)Ubuntu/Unity Crash Recovery

The reason I suggest this is due to the fact that a lot of new users will come here, see your thread, and start using your incorrect terminology elsewhere, thus confusing other new users and garnering the ire of experienced users.

effenberg0x0
May 1st, 2012, 03:55 PM
HeHe, I should have waited, Shut down last night after getting desktop freeze-up and at start-up this AM = no desktop.
Could get to a tty through recovery and thanks to pressureman got it fixed.
Or at least I got to the lightdm login only to find an infinite loop of being kicked back to the greeter.

Found an old post by effenberg0x0 on the subject.
sudo mv ~/.Xauthority ~/.Xauthority.old
sudo service lightdm restart Which got me back in business, yay!

Thanks to both of you gentlemen! ):P

Glad it worked for you Arpanaut.

I've also fixed a couple lightdm loops recently with this old OO trick, but I really didn't want to report it again. Although it was really frequent in OO, it was fixed in PP by the beginning of the cycle. I thought I was seeing something isolated.

Regards,
Effenberg

ventrical
May 1st, 2012, 04:25 PM
No. The words "command" and "code" are not synonymous, nor are they interchangeable.

For example, I see you've carried over the thread you started last cycle. You should request that a moderator edit the thread title to be more accurate:

Actually I had already requested permission from a moderator before I had pasted a crosslink despite your erroneous presumption. If this raises an ire within you then, by all means, feel free to approach a moderator on your own behalf.



The reason I suggest this is due to the fact that a lot of new users will come here, see your thread, and start using your incorrect terminology elsewhere, thus confusing other new users and garnering the ire of experienced users.

I think your statement is a matter of opinion and is baseless. But I do agree with you on one thing, and that is I very well could raise the ire of experienced members and users (if I haven't already) and so , for that I apologize and your comments have been cordially noted.

Kind Regards,

Ventrical

tekstr1der
May 1st, 2012, 04:53 PM
Actually I had already requested permission from a moderator before I had pasted a crosslink despite your erroneous presumption. If this raises an ire within you then, by all means, feel free to approach a moderator on your own behalf.

I think you misread my statement. I made no presumption, erroneous or otherwise. I simply stated the fact that you moved your old thread and I'm suggesting you change the title for the sake of newcomers.



I think your statement is a matter of opinion and is baseless. But I do agree with you on one thing, and that is I very well could raise the ire of experienced members and users (if I haven't already) and so , for that I apologize and your comments have been cordially noted.

Kind Regards,

Ventrical

I think you're missing my point entirely, ventrical. Perhaps I should not have used the word "ire", as you seem to be focusing on that.

Please simply stop spreading misinformation on this forum. There's no such thing as "sudo codes" in the manner you're referring. Using such home-grown terminology makes you sound like a n00b who might be better off in the beginner's forum.

ventrical
May 1st, 2012, 05:12 PM
I think you misread my statement. I made no presumption, erroneous or otherwise. I simply stated the fact that you moved your old thread and I'm suggesting you change the title for the sake of newcomers.




I think you're missing my point entirely, ventrical. Perhaps I should not have used the word "ire", as you seem to be focusing on that.

Please simply stop spreading misinformation on this forum. There's no such thing as "sudo codes" in the manner you're referring. Using such home-grown terminology makes you sound like a n00b who might be better off in the beginner's forum.


I didn't make it up! :confused:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/sudo/109676499057971


From Wikipedia (http://www.wikipedia.org), the free encyclopedia
<code>sudo</code> is a program (http://www.facebook.com/pages/w/104137619624103) for Unix-like (http://www.facebook.com/pages/w/103074363065723) computer operating system (http://www.facebook.com/pages/w/104066916297974)s that allows users to run programs with the security privileges of another user (normally the superuser (http://www.facebook.com/pages/w/104115222958314), or root). Its name is a concatenation of the <code>su (http://www.facebook.com/pages/w/103182959736488)</code> command (which grants the user a shell (http://www.facebook.com/pages/w/111435605547452) of another user, normally the superuser) and "do", or take action.
Unlike the <code>su</code> command, users typically supply their own password (http://www.facebook.com/pages/w/105562639477144) to <code>sudo</code> rather than the root password. After authentication, and if the <code>/etc/sudoers</code> configuration file permits the user access, then the system will invoke the requested command.
History

The program was originally written by Bob Coggeshall and Cliff Spencer "around 1980" at the Department of Computer Science (http://www.facebook.com/pages/w/108415172517135) at SUNY/Buffalo (http://www.facebook.com/pages/w/111568078860131). The current version is under active development and is maintained by OpenBSD (http://www.facebook.com/pages/w/108288282528657) developer Todd C. Miller and distributed under a BSD-style (http://www.facebook.com/pages/w/137192446303713) license.
In November 2009 Thomas Claburn, in response to fears that Microsoft (http://www.facebook.com/pages/w/107785359249238) had patented the <code>sudo</code> command, found the suspicions to be overblown. The claim (http://www.facebook.com/pages/w/103166216405528)s were narrowly framed to a particular GUI (http://www.facebook.com/pages/w/115359945141700), rather than to the sudo concept.


and there are many other references where I drew this term from.


you know what .. I'm not going to argue with you. The last thing I want to do is spread misinformation. Thats an unfair statement.


I still encourage you to contact the moderator to have the title of the cross-pasted forum changed. Or, better yet , you can join U+1 testers wiki, get editing permissions and then edit the Sudo Code Quick Grabber and hence educate the masses in a more precise manner. :) I'm all for it !


Begginers forum here I come :)

tekstr1der
May 1st, 2012, 05:32 PM
I didn't make it up! :confused:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/sudo/109676499057971


From Wikipedia (http://www.wikipedia.org), the free encyclopedia
<code>sudo</code> is a program (http://www.facebook.com/pages/w/104137619624103) for Unix-like (http://www.facebook.com/pages/w/103074363065723) computer operating system (http://www.facebook.com/pages/w/104066916297974)s that allows users to run programs with the security privileges of another user (normally the superuser (http://www.facebook.com/pages/w/104115222958314), or root). Its name is a concatenation of the <code>su (http://www.facebook.com/pages/w/103182959736488)</code> command (which grants the user a shell (http://www.facebook.com/pages/w/111435605547452) of another user, normally the superuser) and "do", or take action.
Unlike the <code>su</code> command, users typically supply their own password (http://www.facebook.com/pages/w/105562639477144) to <code>sudo</code> rather than the root password. After authentication, and if the <code>/etc/sudoers</code> configuration file permits the user access, then the system will invoke the requested command.
History

The program was originally written by Bob Coggeshall and Cliff Spencer "around 1980" at the Department of Computer Science (http://www.facebook.com/pages/w/108415172517135) at SUNY/Buffalo (http://www.facebook.com/pages/w/111568078860131). The current version is under active development and is maintained by OpenBSD (http://www.facebook.com/pages/w/108288282528657) developer Todd C. Miller and distributed under a BSD-style (http://www.facebook.com/pages/w/137192446303713) license.
In November 2009 Thomas Claburn, in response to fears that Microsoft (http://www.facebook.com/pages/w/107785359249238) had patented the <code>sudo</code> command, found the suspicions to be overblown. The claim (http://www.facebook.com/pages/w/103166216405528)s were narrowly framed to a particular GUI (http://www.facebook.com/pages/w/115359945141700), rather than to the sudo concept.


and there are many other references where I drew this term from.


you know what .. I'm not going to argue with you. The last thing I want to do is spread misinformation. Thats an unfair statement.


I still encourage you to contact the moderator to have the title of the cross-pasted forum changed. Or, better yet , you can join U+1 testers wiki, get editing permissions and then edit the Sudo Code Quick Grabber and hence educate the masses in a more precise manner. :) I'm all for it !


Begginers forum here I come :)


Oh, goodness ventrical. I don't want to argue either! I know you're trying to be helpful and provide tester-feedback for the good of the community.

1) Facebooking for technical reference surely is not a good idea. The source you are linking to has improperly copied/pasted bbcode tags from Wikipedia. Is that where you got this "sudo code" nomenclature from? Oh my.

2) Otherwise, indeed you did "make it up"... in a way. Please Google "sudo code". You'll need to wrap it in quotes (exact match) to avoid the very valid results for pseudocode. You'll notice that your thread is the top (and only) result on the entire Interwebs to use the term in such a manner. Here's the Google search:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%22sudo+code%22


Congratulations on that! :)

ventrical
May 1st, 2012, 05:48 PM
Oh, goodness ventrical. I don't want to argue either! I know you're trying to be helpful and provide tester-feedback for the good of the community.

1) Facebooking for technical reference surely is not a good idea. The source you are linking to has improperly copied/pasted bbcode tags from Wikipedia. Is that where you got this "sudo code" nomenclature from? Oh my.

2) Otherwise, indeed you did "make it up"... in a way. Please Google "sudo code". You'll need to wrap it in quotes (exact match) to avoid the very valid results for pseudocode. You'll notice that your thread is the top (and only) result on the entire Interwebs to use the term in such a manner. Here's the Google search:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%22sudo+code%22


Congratulations on that! :)

Well then geewillikers Batman!! :) Ubuntu is .... ummm.. evolving lets say. It's like when people started to take the PowerMac PC out of context and started to call it the Laundry Hamper, (I had one of those), or, they started calling Personal Computers PCs .. and then it evolved into "boxes". We know it's not a "box" or a "PC" .. It's a Personal Computer.

In my brief time with the Linuxes I found that the term "sudo" and "code" were most often used together. Perhaps it is a sloppy approach but what may not work for some may work for others. Personally I think that most end_users get the idea of what sudo_codes mean. I will admit that it is a slang but I think it is more workable and if we are too contrite, we may scare others away.

Again .. this goes to the concept of "Linux for Human beings". When I am testing and I am in a rush I may need to grab some "commands" to try and recover a busted system quickly.. so .. sudo-codes works for me.

Also I never used the word "command" but I do understand your meaning. However, for the sake of harmony and respecting senior members and end_users I will bring to light to the moderator the request you have made.

Kind Regards,

ventrical

jbicha
May 1st, 2012, 06:41 PM
Thanks for identifying the libxfont1 problem and a workaround. I reported it as bug 992745 (http://pad.lv/992745). It may take a while for it to get fixed as generally speaking, the developers aren't running Quantal yet and there are other important things that need to be taken care of too with the first Debian autosync that's still running.

effenberg0x0
May 1st, 2012, 07:05 PM
I think it's unnecessary to take this to moderation, this discussion has already happened in the past.

While tekstr1der assertions are obviously correct, Ventrical has chosen to use a naming convention that works for him. Although it is unusual or technically incorrect, he's free to do it.

About sudo: I think it's clear to everyone that uses Ubuntu for a while (and even more to testers) that sudo is a command: it's only use is to precede other commands, which are then executed as root or another user depending on the arguments provided to sudo. As some commands sometimes need root permissions, we can precede them with sudo as long as we're in the /etc/sudoers and sudo /etc/group. There shouldn't be any question or doubt about it.

About code: The confusion for the use of the word code in the shell context is justifiable: We frequently pipe shell commands, use variables, tests, if/then/else conditions, for/while loops, case switches, etc. Given that it respects some logic and syntax, a grammar, it's normal to refer to it as code. I sometimes refer to large scripts, with functions, etc as code.

It is code in some sense, although shell scripting is completely different from normal programming. Take C for example: We don't have commands in C. We have keywords, data types, operators, etc. A file with a set of these is usually referred to as source code. A command is something to be executed by the command interpreter, in this case, the shell.

Moreover, the shell (Dash, Bash,etc) is designed to operate (and defined) as a command interpreter, accepting commands via input and producing output.

So, if we were to be strict about it, even "[[ ]]" or "[ ]" are not code but commands in the shell context (they are actually defined as bash built-in commands).

The normally accepted convention is to call a sequence of commands a command. And when they're inserted in an executable text file, a shell script.

Regards,
Effenberg

pressureman
May 1st, 2012, 07:14 PM
Thanks for identifying the libxfont1 problem and a workaround. I reported it as bug 992745 (http://pad.lv/992745). It may take a while for it to get fixed as generally speaking, the developers aren't running Quantal yet and there are other important things that need to be taken care of too with the first Debian autosync that's still running.

If the resolution is possibly going to take a little while, the following may be beneficial to testers. Assuming you have downgraded your libxfont1 package already, add the following to '/etc/apt/preferences' to pin your libxfont1 package at a working version:



Package: libxfont1
Pin: version 1:1.4.4-1
Pin-Priority: 1001


Remember to remove those lines once the bug is fixed, otherwise apt won't download the updated package.

ventrical
May 1st, 2012, 07:19 PM
Thanks for the support effenberg. During my University days we had to write in pseudo_code. First we did a flowchart, then pseudo_code, then Turing and Unix on the VaxUnix. Pseudo_code just stuck with me ..as does 'sudo_code' but I can see the logic in that it is wrong, at least with Linux.

thanks

regards,
ventrical

jerrylamos
May 1st, 2012, 07:21 PM
Thanks, I'll give the libxfont1 pin a whirl.

So far with the other hints above I can get to a command line, do a sudo service lxdm restart which gets a black screen briefly and then back to a command line.

Using nomodeset on the linux line, the splash screen in X displays O.K. but then goes to the command line with garbage fonts.

I do have /var/log/Xorg.0.log and .xsession errors however I don't know how to do a ubuntu-bug without a gui. command line ubuntu-bug xorg will give me a report I can save but the launchpad people have said they can't use it.

So let me try to install the libxfont1 package and/or pin it. What I've got now is broken and the previous suggestion in this forum, replace amd64 with i386, got "unknown package"

Of course I do a command line apt-get update, apt-get upgrade. No go so far.

Jerry

ventrical
May 1st, 2012, 07:24 PM
If the resolution is possibly going to take a little while, the following may be beneficial to testers. Assuming you have downgraded your libxfont1 package already, add the following to '/etc/apt/preferences' to pin your libxfont1 package at a working version:



Package: libxfont1
Pin: version 1:1.4.4-1
Pin-Priority: 1001
Remember to remove those lines once the bug is fixed, otherwise apt won't download the updated package.

I have other installs and on one system I locked it (before updating) using synaptic and it worked just fine.

ventrical
May 1st, 2012, 07:28 PM
Thanks, I'll give the libxfont1 pin a whirl.

So far with the other hints above I can get to a command line, do a sudo service lxdm restart which gets a black screen briefly and then back to a command line.

Using nomodeset on the linux line, the splash screen in X displays O.K. but then goes to the command line with garbage fonts.

I do have /var/log/Xorg.0.log and .xsession errors however I don't know how to do a ubuntu-bug without a gui. command line ubuntu-bug xorg will give me a report I can save but the launchpad people have said they can't use it.

So let me try to install the libxfont1 package and/or pin it. What I've got now is broken and the previous suggestion in this forum, replace amd64 with i386, got "unknown package"

Of course I do a command line apt-get update, apt-get upgrade. No go so far.

Jerry

I'm not 100% sure but I think to start Lubuntu it is the same as ubuntu:

sudo service ubuntu-desktop restart

jerrylamos
May 1st, 2012, 09:47 PM
Replace amd64 with i386 if you're running 32 bit.



wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libx/libxfont/libxfont1_1.4.4-1_amd64.deb
sudo dpkg -i libxfont1_1.4.4-1_amd64.deb


If you have to ask for "sudo code", perhaps you shouldn't be running a pre-alpha version of Ubuntu... unless your style of learning is trial by fire ;-)

Woops, narrow window problem, there's a _amd64 in two places. Changed both to i386 and now up and running.

Thanks!

Jerry

cecilpierce
May 1st, 2012, 09:55 PM
Don't feel bad I locked in synaptic and then did aptitude update and it put the new libxfont1 in again, duh!
Forgot to do the /etc/apt/pref thing, geez :P

xebian
May 1st, 2012, 10:10 PM
Don't feel bad I locked in synaptic and then did aptitude update and it put the new libxfont1 in again, duh!
Forgot to do the /etc/apt/pref thing, geez :P

I may forget to unlock when the fix comes so I just left the installed package alone and then copied /usr/lib/libXfont.so.1.4.1 from a precise installation.

MG&TL
May 1st, 2012, 10:44 PM
I'm not 100% sure but I think to start Lubuntu it is the same as ubuntu:

sudo service ubuntu-desktop restart

Not sure what you're on about here.

To restart Lubuntu 12.04 and after, and Ubuntu since 11.10, use:


sudo service lightdm restartTo restart Lubuntu before 12.04:


sudo service lxdm restart
Of course, you might be using sudo code. :lol:

ventrical
May 1st, 2012, 11:13 PM
Not sure what you're on about here.

To restart Lubuntu 12.04 and after, and Ubuntu since 11.10, use:


sudo service lightdm restartTo restart Lubuntu before 12.04:


sudo service lxdm restartOf course, you might be using sudo code. :lol:

I suppose you'll keep ribbing me until I give you a bisquit too :) Here then...

Harry33
May 2nd, 2012, 08:43 PM
The libxfont1 issue is now solved.
The bug-free version 1.4.5-1 can be downloaded from xorg-edgers PPA, built by Ricotz.


libxfont (1:1.4.5-1+edgers1) quantal; urgency=critical * Remove -Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions from LDFLAGS

caryb
May 2nd, 2012, 11:42 PM
Have font problem fixed but now have 800x600 resolution due to the lack of Nvidia support in the new 3.4 kernel :)
This is what I was saying before about boring LTS releases


Cary

VinDSL
May 2nd, 2012, 11:53 PM
The libxfont1 issue is now solved.
The bug-free version 1.4.5-1 can be downloaded from xorg-edgers PPA, built by Ricotz.
Confirmed! Good job, detective!

I snagged nVidia 302.07 while I was over there...



http://vindsl.com/images/vindsl-desktop-2-may-2012-2(650x520).png (http://vindsl.com/images/vindsl-desktop-2-may-2012-2.png)


OMG!!! Between Facebook & Ubu Forums, I cannot pry myself out of this chair, today.

I saw there was an upgraded version of Linux 3.4 in the PPAs. Probably just a (mis)spelling correction.

Hrm...

Okay, more coffee, Facebook, then back to the Ubu repos, and even more coffee. LoL! :D

xebian
May 3rd, 2012, 12:00 AM
Just a friendly reminder: Don't forget to un-pin the pin you did to libxfonts.):P

caryb
May 3rd, 2012, 12:12 AM
@VinDSL can you define over there for the Nvidia updates:confused:


Confused Cary

VinDSL
May 3rd, 2012, 12:21 AM
@VinDSL can you define over there for the Nvidia updates:confused:


Confused Cary
It was in this PPA: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa

I've got the edgers PPA installed, of course, but I leave it disabled most of the time.

About once or twice a day, I enable the edgers PPA, and check it for updates (searching the edgers PPA only). If there is something I'm interested in, I upgrade all of the edgers packages, which I have installed. Then, immediately afterward, I disable it again, then check the "normal" repos and PPAs for updates.

Heh! I've always thought of edgers as being a condiment, like salt n' pepper. A little bit goes a long ways.

READ THE INSTRUCTIONS, and use it wisely... ;)

caryb
May 3rd, 2012, 01:43 AM
Done & working thanks :)

Cary

ronacc
May 3rd, 2012, 02:48 AM
I'm going to stay PPA free for as long as I can , at least fallback video is working this time around , during the early part of precise I was stuck in the console for about 2 weeks :lolflag:

Starks
May 3rd, 2012, 07:10 AM
I can't get Unity to load. Only Gnome-Shell works.

caryb
May 3rd, 2012, 07:41 AM
Been out of the loop for a while, so you guys still have the option for Gnome?

Cary

cariboo907
May 3rd, 2012, 09:02 AM
Been out of the loop for a while, so you guys still have the option for Gnome?

Cary

Gnome-shell is in the repositories, so it's just a matter of a couple of clicks to install it. Of course the default Ubuntu install is still gnome based.

jerrylamos
May 3rd, 2012, 01:50 PM
Just a friendly reminder: Don't forget to un-pin the pin you did to libxfonts.):P

Saw that updates this morning 05/03 included libXfont1 so I did an update to see if the libXfont1 problem was fixed.

Nope - still dead in the water.

So I cranked up 11.10 Ocelot and tried to copy over libXfont.so.1.4.1 no go at all. Some noise about read only file system. sudo, su, whatever didn't work. I did it a couple days ago no problem?? What changed??

Tried booting Quantal in recovery mode to copy in the file. No go, "read only file system". Rebooted again, Ctrl-Alt-F1, chmod /usr/lib into 777. No go. Finally removed /usr/lib/libxFont1.so.1.4.1 which worked, Do note libXfont1.so is a pointer to the 1.4.1 file so I wondered if the link would be bothered by removing the file. Anyway, copied in the file from 11.10 Ocelot O.K. this time, rebooted fine.

???

Up and running.

Jerry

p.s. this is Lubuntu Quantal otherwise running O.K. for a pre-Alpha.

dino99
May 3rd, 2012, 02:07 PM
Jerry

p.s. this is Lubuntu Quantal otherwise running O.K. for a pre-Alpha.

Simply install it from edgers-ppa, its fixed :)

3vi1
May 3rd, 2012, 02:36 PM
Saw that updates this morning 05/03 included libXfont1...

To what version? I still only see the broken 1.4.5-1 in the US repos.


evil@saturn:~$ apt-cache policy libxfont1
libxfont1:
Installed: 1:1.4.4-1
Candidate: 1:1.4.5-1
Version table:
1:1.4.5-1 0
500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/main amd64 Packages
*** 1:1.4.4-1 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

grahammechanical
May 3rd, 2012, 02:42 PM
It is the 1.4.5-1 version that has been giving the problem.

The solution provided earlier in this thread worked for me and I did not need to "pin" the 1.4.4-1 version either.

Boots fine now. I just have to make sure that I do not update and include libxfont1_1.4.5-1. Update manager calls it X11 font rasterisation library. Let Update Manager bring that down and next reboot will put you at a command line.

Regards.

jomafras
May 3rd, 2012, 05:11 PM
Hello!
I am jomafras - Belo Horizonte, Brazil and Ubuntu Forum PT.

Decided as follows:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa: xorg-edgers/ppa
sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

then:
sudo lightdm

On the next start was normal.

Thank you!

jerrylamos
May 3rd, 2012, 06:20 PM
Simply install it from edgers-ppa, its fixed :)

Thanks, I see the notes about the ppa. I was just trying to see if the fix had been released yet. No, it hasn't.

Jerry

xebian
May 3rd, 2012, 06:26 PM
I wish people stop saying 'it's now in quantal repo' when in fact it's on some ppa or launchpad.

jerrylamos
May 3rd, 2012, 07:12 PM
I wish people stop saying 'it's now in quantal repo' when in fact it's on some ppa or launchpad.

Well, ppa is installed, booted O.K., now how do we test to see if the fix is in the regular sources.list repositories?

Thanks, Jerry

3vi1
May 3rd, 2012, 07:29 PM
Well, ppa is installed, booted O.K., now how do we test to see if the fix is in the regular sources.list repositories?

Thanks, Jerry

What does "apt-cache policy libxfont1" say?

(You may need to pin the current version and disable the ppa, if you want it to say the real version waiting)

VinDSL
May 3rd, 2012, 07:43 PM
Been out of the loop for a while, so you guys still have the option for Gnome?
Sorry for parsing your question...

Yes, Gnome is still available, but it's not an "option" (for me). :)

Allow me to explain...


Gnome-shell is in the repositories, so it's just a matter of a couple of clicks to install it.

Of course the default Ubuntu install is still gnome based.
Thank goodness!

I use Gnome to hack the Unity desktop environment. LoL! :D

The "trick", for changing the look n' feel of Unity, is to manipulate its soft "gnome based" underbelly.

Yaho
May 4th, 2012, 06:03 AM
After upgrading to 302.07-0ubuntu1~xedgers~quantal1, upon reboot I have a nice looking system but somehow I loose control of the keyboard and pad onced logged in, but not at the lightdm level, removing nvidia-current fixes it.
Any idea why?

Without the nvidia-current I'm stuck to 1024x768 and when trying to set a higher resolution, the display settings window keeps on flickering and corrupts the display.

VinDSL
May 5th, 2012, 02:10 AM
After upgrading to 302.07-0ubuntu1~xedgers~quantal1, upon reboot I have a nice looking system but somehow I loose control of the keyboard and pad onced logged in, but not at the lightdm level, removing nvidia-current fixes it.
Any idea why?
There's a mouse driver, et cetera, in that package. Did you install the whole package, or just nvidia-current & xserver-xorg-core?!?!?

The edgers ppa instructions warn you that you must install the package as a whole.

This isn't necessarily true. If you're crafty, you can mix and match packages, but it's like playing with dynamite.

My humble rig (see sig) requires all of these (a minimal install) to run correctly... ;)



http://vindsl.com/images/vindsl-synaptic-4-may-2012(650x520).png (http://vindsl.com/images/vindsl-synaptic-4-may-2012.png)

Harry33
May 5th, 2012, 05:30 AM
After upgrading to 302.07-0ubuntu1~xedgers~quantal1, upon reboot I have a nice looking system but somehow I loose control of the keyboard and pad onced logged in, but not at the lightdm level, removing nvidia-current fixes it.
Any idea why?

Without the nvidia-current I'm stuck to 1024x768 and when trying to set a higher resolution, the display settings window keeps on flickering and corrupts the display.

Keyboard and mouse are controlled by the input driver xserver-xorg-input-evdev.
You can very well use the Quantal official package xserver-xorg-input-evdev_2.7.0-0ubuntu1 (the same as in Precise). That is because Precise and Quantal xserver input system is a 1.12 branch system.

But if you see issues with nvidia-current and keyboard + mouse, that may be because of the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
Have you run this the command (with nvidia-current installed)?

sudo nvidia-xconfig


If you have, please remove all the keyboard and mouse lines from the xorg.conf file. They are created by the command 'nvidia-xconfig'.
They are not used anymore.
The system (with evdev driver) detects all the necessary hardware and automatically uses correct settings.

cecilpierce
May 6th, 2012, 12:54 PM
Any one know when the daily build for QQ will be started ?

effenberg0x0
May 6th, 2012, 08:59 PM
Any one know when the daily build for QQ will be started ?

I'm not sure but I guess we won't see anything new until UDS (uds.ubuntu.com) ends (May 11th, next Friday). Probably May 13th.

Regards,
Effenberg

cecilpierce
May 6th, 2012, 09:19 PM
I'm not sure but I guess we won't see anything new until UDS (uds.ubuntu.com) ends (May 11th, next Friday). Probably May 13th.

Regards,
Effenberg

Thank you,
Cecil

RJARRRPCGP
May 6th, 2012, 11:07 PM
My IP told me my speed was working up to par.



Yes, true, if it was 2004. :(

2.4 Mb cable is sooooo 2004!

I had the same thing, too, made me want to reboot my router! I have to say that it's the servers getting hammered in some cases, especially with such phenomenal release Precise Pangolin. ;)

ronacc
May 7th, 2012, 12:01 AM
Yes, true, if it was 2004. :(

2.4 Mb cable is sooooo 2004!

I had the same thing, too, made me want to reboot my router! I have to say that it's the servers getting hammered in some cases, especially with such phenomenal release Precise Pangolin. ;)

it is definitely due to the Ubuntu servers being slammed I am seeing slow responses from both the repos and the forums for a few days but not "non Ubuntu " pages/sites .

Starks
May 7th, 2012, 08:12 AM
The first dailies can't come soon enough.

I only do 2 planned clean-root reinstalls a year.

Miykel
May 7th, 2012, 09:10 AM
VinDSL' What is that deal on the right hand side of your screen, I've been looking for something like that for ages
Regards Miykel

cecilpierce
May 7th, 2012, 09:18 AM
There is a thread for it, but he is one of the experts!

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865

zika
May 7th, 2012, 04:26 PM
Going on a trip and coming back on evening 6th of May. Do not break too much stuff! I'll catch toolchain then... Have a good time!While it is geting upgraded in another window just to add my name to the list of those with QQ... Back on-line... ;)
I do hope it will be a nice trip... ;)

:~$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu quantal (development branch)
Release: 12.10
Codename: quantal

ventrical
May 7th, 2012, 09:45 PM
Good to have you on board , Zika:)
Welcome back .! :)

Starks
May 8th, 2012, 12:58 AM
Kernel team just met at UDS.

The impression I got is that 3.5 is sure thing and 3.6 is on the table.

zika
May 8th, 2012, 05:42 PM
Good to have you on board , Zika:)
Welcome back .! :)Thank You!

itnet7
September 8th, 2012, 06:07 AM
Just wanted to say thanks.... after upgrading my machine to QQ I was having problems with my xorg due to that libxfont issue. I used post 106 (http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11894101&postcount=106) in this thread and installed the older fonts. When I restarted lightdm it worked like a charm.

Thanks as always!

Chris C.
itnet7/irc.freenode.net
:guitar:

jerrylamos
September 8th, 2012, 12:54 PM
Kernel team just met at UDS.

The impression I got is that 3.5 is sure thing and 3.6 is on the table.On another partition I was running 3.6 rc4 on A3 O.K. I'm back to 3.5 on Beta 1. If there's any use to anyone I could try 3.6 rcx. I've netbook, notebook, tower test pc's.