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Trixsey
April 6th, 2012, 05:01 PM
Why is Rhythmbox included in Precise Pangolin? Doesn't Tomahawk (http://www.tomahawk-player.org/) for instance seem a lot more modern?

Trixsey
April 6th, 2012, 09:07 PM
If it's about the UbuntuOne support in Rhythmbox I suppose, since Tomahawk seems so versatile and modular, that it could be included fairly easily?

cariboo907
April 6th, 2012, 11:21 PM
UDS-Q is coming up May 5 - 9, get your blurprint (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-q)in, attend remotely if you can't be there and be ready to explain why you think it's a good idea.

sgage
April 6th, 2012, 11:37 PM
Why is Rhythmbox included in Precise Pangolin? Doesn't Tomahawk (http://www.tomahawk-player.org/) for instance seem a lot more modern?

They could start by losing the icon of the Native American warrior with headphones. That's pretty tone-deaf right there.

keithpeter
April 6th, 2012, 11:51 PM
Hello All

Not especially worried about what music player we have as default in this or future cycles, but can we get the Amazon MP3 store thing sorted out?

Rhythmbox: no plugin apparently available

Banshee: certificate errors when I try to pay for anything

Ideally, I'd like an Amazon lens. Is that a blueprinty thing?

VinDSL
April 6th, 2012, 11:54 PM
[...]Tomahawk seems so versatile and modular, that it could be included fairly easily?
Interesting player!

I'm gonna mess around with this for a while... don't really understand the concept, but it found all my music, which is half the battle. ;)

VinDSL
April 6th, 2012, 11:57 PM
They could start by losing the icon of the Native American warrior with headphones. That's pretty tone-deaf right there.
I'm part Godfrey & Kickapoo (Indiana, USA) and didn't find any offense...

sgage
April 7th, 2012, 12:03 AM
I'm part Godfrey & Kickapoo (Indiana, USA) and didn't find any offense...

Well, that settles it then.

VinDSL
April 7th, 2012, 12:26 AM
Well, that settles it then.
LoL!

I haven't been able to trace my roots outside the USA, but the long-and-short of it is...

"We've" been in the USA since the late 1700s -- first in Virginia, then out west to Ohio (for 100 years), and finally to Indiana.

How we got mixed in with the "aboriginals" I have no idea, but we got a small amount of money when the last Godrey Indian died, and they closed the reservation in Fort Wayne (I think). I guess some Kickapoos are still around.

I ended up in Arizona, because tuberculosis was running rampant in our family, in the early 1900s, and they said to move to Arizona, for our health.

I'm more white (with weak lungs) than aboriginal, so I might be less likely to take offense than some, sooo not necessarily the "last word" when it comes to things like this.

Anyway, this IS an interesting player!

Have you tried it yet?!?!?

sgage
April 7th, 2012, 12:45 AM
LoL!

I haven't been able to trace my roots outside the USA, but the long-and-short of it is...

"We've" been in the USA since the late 1700s -- first in Virginia, then out west to Ohio (for 100 years), and finally to Indiana.

How we got mixed in with the "aboriginals" I have no idea, but we got a small amount of money when the last Godrey Indian died, and they closed the reservation in Fort Wayne (I think). I guess some Kickapoos are still around.

I ended up in Arizona, because tuberculosis was running rampant in our family, in the early 1900s, and they said to move to Arizona, for our health.

I'm more white (with weak lungs) than aboriginal, so I might be less likely to take offense than some, sooo not necessarily the "last word" when it comes to things like this.

Anyway, this IS an interesting player!

Have you tried it yet?!?!?

I've tried it some, but the way I deal with my musical life,well, I don't feel a real value add. Early days, early days.

I don't have a drop of Native American blood in me, as far as I know, but I just know that there have been moves for many years now to drop various NA mascots and themes and such.

I'm not so much personally offended as I am just a bit surprised that an outfit would go that way.

Anyway, it's a music player :KS

VinDSL
April 7th, 2012, 02:39 AM
Anyway, it's a music player :KS
I just wonder if it's "legal". LoL! :D

cariboo907
April 7th, 2012, 02:50 AM
I work with a largely First Nations crew, they think most of the PC stuff is pretty funny, but they'll take advantage of anything they can get because of it.

t1497f35
April 7th, 2012, 04:13 AM
The player is so smart and funky that I can't get it to play any audio file from my computer, drag-n-drop doesn't work. Seems useless if you don't want online stuff.

Trixsey
April 9th, 2012, 01:34 AM
UDS-Q is coming up May 5 - 9, get your blurprint (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-q)in, attend remotely if you can't be there and be ready to explain why you think it's a good idea.

Added :)

qamelian
April 9th, 2012, 02:04 AM
The player is so smart and funky that I can't get it to play any audio file from my computer, drag-n-drop doesn't work. Seems useless if you don't want online stuff.
Plays stuff off my local hard drive just fine here.

VinDSL
April 9th, 2012, 02:45 AM
Plays stuff off my local hard drive just fine here.
Dittos!

It even found music that I had forgotten about... LoL! :D

Baldrick_NZ
April 9th, 2012, 03:15 AM
The player is so smart and funky that I can't get it to play any audio file from my computer, drag-n-drop doesn't work. Seems useless if you don't want online stuff.

+1

It sees my collection, but I can't create a playlist from my own collection. No drag n drop, no 'add to playlist' option.

The only way I can make a playlist is to do an auto generate, but this doesn't seem to see my collection either - just on-line stuff.

Could anyone please explain how to create a playlist from one's own collection?

I love that you seen to have an iTunes store plug in, and social client - which for reasons beyond me, doesn't include Facebook. Why?

Help to sort these things out will probably result in Tomahawk becoming my default player.

Cheers.

EDIT: Decided to stick with Guayadeque, as it doesn't take a science degree to work out how to make a simple playlist to play only your local files. Which is a pity because Tomahawk shows so much promise otherwise.

Thanks for the opportunity to try though.

xyzzyman
April 9th, 2012, 05:36 AM
I worked for a year at the casino of an "Indian" nation in upstate New York... I always wanted to laugh 'cuz sophomore year of college I roomed with two cousins from New Delhi, India. I always wanted to tell them they were as Indian as the black kid from Queens was African, but I needed the paycheck.

Temüjin
April 9th, 2012, 05:59 AM
Tomahawk's not even packaged in the repo and it's a Qt app (I don't think Qt libs are on the Ubuntu install CD).


but I just know that there have been moves for many years now to drop various NA mascots and themes and such.
The fact that a team is still named "Redskins" makes me laugh when I think about it.

jbicha
April 9th, 2012, 02:25 PM
Some of Qt is on the install CD for Unity 2D. Tomahawk won't even be considered if it's not in the normal Ubuntu repositories before UDS (it should go into Debian too!).

Trixsey
April 9th, 2012, 10:22 PM
Help to sort these things out will probably result in Tomahawk becoming my default player.

I think it's a fairly new product though, so in some time it might be mature/stable enough :)

Baldrick_NZ
April 9th, 2012, 10:34 PM
I think it's a fairly new product though, so in some time it might be mature/stable enough :)

So, how did you get to make a playlist form just your local directory alone? Still curious, happy to give it another crack...

The_Autonomist
April 9th, 2012, 11:09 PM
i've been trying to add the tomahawk ppa, but i keep receiving this error in terminal:


No command 'deb' found, did you mean:
Command 'debc' from package 'devscripts' (main)
Command 'derb' from package 'libicu-dev' (main)
Command 'dab' from package 'bsdgames' (universe)
Command 'debi' from package 'devscripts' (main)
Command 'xdeb' from package 'xdeb' (universe)
deb: command not found


never mind, figured it out, could someone delete this?

alphacrucis2
April 9th, 2012, 11:38 PM
Some of Qt is on the install CD for Unity 2D. Tomahawk won't even be considered if it's not in the normal Ubuntu repositories before UDS (it should go into Debian too!).


Ubuntu One client is also a qt app is it not?

jbicha
April 10th, 2012, 12:33 AM
Unfortunately, only the Ubuntu One installer is on the default CD, the actual Ubuntu One client has to be installed afterwards.

Trixsey
April 10th, 2012, 02:40 AM
Unfortunately, only the Ubuntu One installer is on the default CD, the actual Ubuntu One client has to be installed afterwards.

Qt has such a broad reach though, and with the major version 5.0 coming up I think it'll be even greater. I really don't see why the software required to run Qt apps couldn't be included in its entirety in the distros out of the box (not saying SDKs are needed, just the required runtimes).

devinwhite717
April 10th, 2012, 02:34 PM
I prefer Rhythmbox

Temüjin
April 10th, 2012, 06:18 PM
I really don't see why the software required to run Qt apps couldn't be included in its entirety in the distros out of the box
Ubuntu still tries to hit the 700MB CD limit and the size of 12.04 Beta2 is already > 699MB...

Trixsey
April 10th, 2012, 11:31 PM
Ubuntu still tries to hit the 700MB CD limit and the size of 12.04 Beta2 is already > 699MB...

I doubt that the drawbacks of the limit imposed by the CDs overcomes the benefits of shipping a more competent OS. Almost everyone has a DVD player or a steady Internet connection now anyway.