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mp300
December 19th, 2011, 02:45 PM
I'm using Ubuntu unity for a long time and there are some things that I don't like. So I would like to propose my ideas, which I would like to see in new versions of Ubuntu.

First thing that i don't like is the location of settings for the windows. You need to move your mouse in top left corner of the panel to use settings. It would be much better that the settings are located in window.

I will show you a picture so you can see what do i mean: http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1306/ubuntugz.png

The second thing that i don't like is hiding the launcher. When we open full screen window the launcher can sometime be annoying. For example when i open Firefox in full screen and accidentally move my mouse to left side the launcher appears and hides left side of the window. So I can not easily access the back and forward button on Firefox. So can you give us a option to choose that launcher dose not move and also that window screen dose not cross the launcher field.


What do you think about this ideas?


Sorry for my bad English! ;)

haqking
December 19th, 2011, 02:54 PM
I'm using Ubuntu unity for a long time and there are some things that I don't like. So I would like to propose my ideas, which I would like to see in new versions of Ubuntu.

First thing that i don't like is the location of settings for the windows. You need to move your mouse in top left corner of the panel to use settings. It would be much better that the settings are located in window.

I will show you a picture so you can see what do i mean: http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1306/ubuntugz.png

The second thing that i don't like is hiding the launcher. When we open full screen window the launcher can sometime be annoying. For example when i open Firefox in full screen and accidentally move my mouse to left side the launcher appears and hides left side of the window. So I can not easily access the back and forward button on Firefox. So can you give us a option to choose that launcher dose not move and also that window screen dose not cross the launcher field.


What do you think about this ideas?


Sorry for my bad English! ;)

This forum is not Canonical or its Ubuntu developers so any ideas or recommendations or proposals falls on deaf ears pretty much, it is a support forum for Ubuntu users worldwide and not Canonical the company or its devs though it is owned by Canonical direct requests for changes wont do any good here.

try http://www.ubuntu.com/community

or http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/

mp300
December 19th, 2011, 03:00 PM
This forum is not Canonical or its Ubuntu developers so any ideas or recommendations or proposals falls on deaf ears pretty much, it is a support forum for Ubuntu users worldwide and not Canonical the company or its devs

try http://www.ubuntu.com/community

or http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/


Thank you so much for this! Ok I will send them my ideas. I hope they will like it. :popcorn:

Also I want to see opinion from people in this forum. Maybe others can give their own proposal in this topic.

haqking
December 19th, 2011, 04:04 PM
Thank you so much for this! Ok I will send them my ideas. I hope they will like it. :popcorn:

Also I want to see opinion from people in this forum. Maybe others can give their own proposal in this topic.

The settings issue i cant see being supported to be honest, to use any of them you need to move your moue to that location so it no different as it appears when you move it there.

As for launcher behaviour you can already change its behaviour.

flyingfisch
December 19th, 2011, 06:30 PM
You can use CCSM to keep the launcher from auto-hiding in Unity 3D or the Unity 2D config tool for Unity 2D. ;)

As for settings, I agree with you. It is much more intuitive to have them there when not maximized.

oldos2er
December 19th, 2011, 07:32 PM
Moved to Community Cafe.

KiwiNZ
December 19th, 2011, 07:43 PM
This forum is not Canonical or its Ubuntu developers so any ideas or recommendations or proposals falls on deaf ears pretty much, it is a support forum for Ubuntu users worldwide and not Canonical the company or its devs

try http://www.ubuntu.com/community

or http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/

The Forum is owned, powered and controlled by Canonical. It is the the official ubuntu Forum.

haqking
December 19th, 2011, 08:07 PM
The Forum is owned, powered and controlled by Canonical. It is the the official ubuntu Forum.

I know that.

So are you saying that this forum is the place to post suggestions and ideas about changes wanted in Canonical/Ubuntu as requests such as the OP asked ?


So can you give us a option to choose that launcher dose not move

If so then this contradicts the hundreds/thousands of posts here in the forum from staff and else alike when people post asking/suggesting changes to Ubuntu.

Cheers

Edit: I have modified by original post standing by what i said though appending the ownership statement which i was already aware of but in my experience here though short it is often posted that requests for changes are redundant here, cheers.

CharlesA
December 19th, 2011, 08:15 PM
I thought you were supposed to submit suggestions using mailing lists and/or brainstorm/launchpad, since the developers don't use this forum.

haqking
December 19th, 2011, 08:17 PM
I thought you were supposed to submit suggestions using mailing lists and/or brainstorm/launchpad, since the developers don't use this forum.

+1

Indeed, that is what i thought and have seen posted here many times.

Cheers

grahammechanical
December 19th, 2011, 08:28 PM
You are using Firefox as an example but you will find that the menu panel of Firefox that you point to is going to disappear when you start using 12.04.

I am using 12.04 development branch and a recent update has put in a version of Firefox that has its menus in the top panel of the desktop. Chromium already has this as do some other applications such as Banshee and Rhythmbox. Libreoffice has yet to make the change. But I expect it too will comply with the design decisions that have already been made.

I do not understand what you mean by "settings."

You are welcome to get involved in the development of Ubuntu. In fact there is an open invitation. It is here:

http://www.ubuntu.com/community/get-involved

Check out the link to Design.

Regards.

P.S. As regards your comment about the Launcher moving out over the application window when you move the mouse pointer to the left. What would happen if it did not do that and you wanted to open another application?

I have my Launcher set to be hidden all the time. I can set it to avoid windows. Which is perhaps the setting that you have. I can also set it to never hide. In this case the maximized window butts up against the Launcher panel and does not expand to the full width of the screen. It is your choice.

Use the Software Centre to install CompizConfigSettingsManager. Search for Compiz in the Software Centre. When it has been installed open the Dash and search for Compiz. Open the CompizConfig Settings Manager and make sure that there is a tick mark against Ubuntu Unity Plugin and then click on the Label Ubuntu Unity Plugin and make your adjustments to the Launcher.

Artemis3
December 19th, 2011, 08:46 PM
I'm willing to bet this is referring to the global menu, and IIRC it can be disabled so windows gain back their own menus. http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/how-to-disable-global-menu-in-ubuntu-11-10-tip/

philinux
December 19th, 2011, 08:58 PM
Thank you so much for this! Ok I will send them my ideas. I hope they will like it. :popcorn:

Also I want to see opinion from people in this forum. Maybe others can give their own proposal in this topic.

Also see this. http://design.canonical.com/2011/11/getting-in-touch-with-us/

mp300
December 19th, 2011, 09:19 PM
I'm willing to bet this is referring to the global menu, and IIRC it can be disabled so windows gain back their own menus. http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/how-to-disable-global-menu-in-ubuntu-11-10-tip/


Yes you are right, i made a mistake. Global menu is the right name not settings. :D
Thanks for the link, i will try it!

But what do you think about my idea that I have shown in that picture? About moving global menu in upper place were is now window title. This why window frame does not use so much space.

KiwiNZ
December 19th, 2011, 09:24 PM
I thought you were supposed to submit suggestions using mailing lists and/or brainstorm/launchpad, since the developers don't use this forum.

There is nothing preventing Developers reading these Forums, after all there is the element of Community with regards to ubuntu development. It is not purely developed by Canonical staff.

The Forums are also a good place to voice ideas and gain an insight into and ideas acceptability by the user base before submitting, this can help eliminate clutter on Launchpad etc.

mp300
December 19th, 2011, 09:26 PM
You are using Firefox as an example but you will find that the menu panel of Firefox that you point to is going to disappear when you start using 12.04.

I am using 12.04 development branch and a recent update has put in a version of Firefox that has its menus in the top panel of the desktop. Chromium already has this as do some other applications such as Banshee and Rhythmbox. Libreoffice has yet to make the change. But I expect it too will comply with the design decisions that have already been made.

I do not understand what you mean by "settings."

You are welcome to get involved in the development of Ubuntu. In fact there is an open invitation. It is here:

http://www.ubuntu.com/community/get-involved

Check out the link to Design.

Regards.

P.S. As regards your comment about the Launcher moving out over the application window when you move the mouse pointer to the left. What would happen if it did not do that and you wanted to open another application?

I have my Launcher set to be hidden all the time. I can set it to avoid windows. Which is perhaps the setting that you have. I can also set it to never hide. In this case the maximized window butts up against the Launcher panel and does not expand to the full width of the screen. It is your choice.

Use the Software Centre to install CompizConfigSettingsManager. Search for Compiz in the Software Centre. When it has been installed open the Dash and search for Compiz. Open the CompizConfig Settings Manager and make sure that there is a tick mark against Ubuntu Unity Plugin and then click on the Label Ubuntu Unity Plugin and make your adjustments to the Launcher.

I have tried Compiz it works. Thank you! ;)

CharlesA
December 19th, 2011, 09:36 PM
There is nothing preventing Developers reading these Forums, after all there is the element of Community with regards to ubuntu development. It is not purely developed by Canonical staff.

The Forums are also a good place to voice ideas and gain an insight into and ideas acceptability by the user base before submitting, this can help eliminate clutter on Launchpad etc.

True, but I thought that most of the developers just use mailing lists to communicate, not forums.

KiwiNZ
December 19th, 2011, 09:38 PM
True, but I thought that most of the developers just use mailing lists to communicate, not forums.

To Communicate yes

haqking
December 19th, 2011, 10:13 PM
To Communicate yes

So then can i ask for future reference.

If someone has a suggestion for a change to Ubuntu, an idea, an improvement, something they dont like etc then posting it in the forum is a good idea, recommended ?

Cheers

cariboo907
December 20th, 2011, 04:11 AM
The forum is a good place to get reactions to your idea, before either posting to a mailing list, or create a Brainstorm entry.

I quite often see someone suggest something on the mailing lists or in Brainstorm that has been covered several times before, consider the forum a good place to do your research before creating anything.