What is so innovative about Apple?

[mamamia88]

Everybody says that Apple is innovative but, I don't see it. They basically have 4 products computers, tablets,phones and mp3 players. They didn't create the first mp3 player just the first decent one. They didn't create tablets they just made the first honest attempt at putting a tablet orientated os on a tablet instead of just slapping a desktop os on it. And they already had the os from their phones. A few tweaks of the os and a bigger screen and they had the ipad os. So what is so innovative about taking existing products and just polishing them?

[haqking]

Everybody says that Apple is innovative but, I don't see it. They basically have 4 products computers, tablets,phones and mp3 players. They didn't create the first mp3 player just the first decent one. They didn't create tablets they just made the first honest attempt at putting a tablet orientated os on a tablet instead of just slapping a desktop os on it. And they already had the os from their phones. A few tweaks of the os and a bigger screen and they had the ipad os. So what is so innovative about taking existing products and just polishing them?

innovation is from the latin inovatus which means to renew or change, and so by definition you answered your own question ;-)

[earthpigg]

They took the last D out of PADD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PADD#PADD), spelled it in lower case letters, put an i in front of it, and manufactured a large cellular phone that cannot make phone calls.

[mamamia88]

innovation is from the latin inovatus which means to renew or change, and so by definition you answered your own question ;-)

i look at apple like peanut butter and chocolate. they didn't invent either they just combined the two.

[haqking]

They took the last D out of PADD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PADD#PADD), spelled it in lower case letters, put an i in front of it, and manufactured a large cellular phone that cannot make phone calls.

:lolflag:

[ubupirate]

They took the last D out of PADD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PADD#PADD), spelled it in lower case letters, put an i in front of it, and manufactured a large cellular phone that cannot make phone calls.

And then overpriced the living daylights out of it.

[haqking]

i look at apple like peanut butter and chocolate. they didn't invent either they just combined the two.

renew or change is the definition of innovation, you dont need to invent anything, and you already stated how they only changed this that and the other so therefore proving innovation ;-)

[Elfy]

Let's have another Apple thread - must be time to move on from Unity.

Moved to recurring

[del_diablo]

i look at apple like peanut butter and chocolate. they didn't invent either they just combined the two.

Well, if nobody combined peanuts and chocolte we would not have that.
Hence: Innovation.

As for Apple: Nobody sat down and made the iPad before them.
The iPod was a bit more questionable, basically it just looked really smooth and was among the first ones with such huge storage space.
The Macbook Air on the other hand is a good example of "who else is offering this?", because they don't. Well they do, but at a lot higher prices. Except those new ultrabooks with their inferior touchpads and questionable build quality, which may manage to get on equal ground once the CEOs of the companies reallize that there are almost there.

[mamamia88]

Well, if nobody combined peanuts and chocolte we would not have that.
Hence: Innovation.

As for Apple: Nobody sat down and made the iPad before them.
The iPod was a bit more questionable, basically it just looked really smooth and was among the first ones with such huge storage space.
The Macbook Air on the other hand is a good example of "who else is offering this?", because they don't. Well they do, but at a lot higher prices. Except those new ultrabooks with their inferior touchpads and questionable build quality, which may manage to get on equal ground once the CEOs of the companies reallize that there are almost there.
No but tablets already existed. They just had windows on them which wasn't optimized as a touchscreen os. Apple already had a touchscreen os they just decided to blow it up. Not innovative. As far as the macbook air it's a great product but not innovative. Just a smaller more powerful laptop. This is not innovative just the trend in technology.

[haqking]

No but tablets already existed. They just had windows on them which wasn't optimized as a touchscreen os. Apple already had a touchscreen os they just decided to blow it up. Not innovative. As far as the macbook air it's a great product but not innovative. Just a smaller more powerful laptop. This is not innovative just the trend in technology.

you keep missing the point of the definition of innovative or innovation, as i said already it means to renew or change not invent.

[mamamia88]

you keep missing the point of the definition of innovative or innovation, as i said already it means to renew or change not invent.

by your definition then if a car company used a different brand of tires next year and called it a new version that would technically be innovation.

[haqking]

by your definition then if a car company used a different brand of tires next year and called it a new version that would technically be innovation.

it is not my definition

Did apple change and renew things, or introduce something new over an old ? Yes so = innovation.

[mamamia88]

it is not my definition

Did apple change and renew things, or introduce something new over an old ? Yes so = innovation.

we'll have to agree to disagree over the definition of innovation. by that definition almost anything could be considered innovation making the word almost meaningless. yes apple did basically refresh certain products and make them popular. so by that definition of innovation you are correct.

[haqking]

we'll have to agree to disagree over the definition of innovation. by that definition almost anything could be considered innovation making the word almost meaningless. yes apple did basically refresh certain products and make them popular. so by that definition of innovation you are correct.

Well i personally use dictionaries to get my definitions but feel free to make up your own.

you can contact Oxford dictionaries to make changes here http://oxforddictionaries.com/page/contactus/contact-us

[KiwiNZ]

This thread is already circling the drain. Lets iPlug it.

Now that's innovation