Gmail and Linux Support

[bored2k]

Gmail rocks . I'll say it again. It rocks.

It's incredibly fast, easy to navigate and best of all, it gives us 1gb ( while Hotmail refuses to give me 250mb because "*250MB inbox available only in the 50 United States, District of Columbia, and Puerto Rico." to the point i had to create a new account wich i had to input a fake Florida zip code found on the .net ](*,) ).

So in my daily Gmail used on the "New Features!" I found out about the inclusion of Picasa (http://www.picasa.com/features/index.php) , a killer app for photo organization/upload .

[Duh'] I immediately clicked the Free Download (http://www.picasa.com/download/index.php) button almost already knowing it would not have Linux support .

So i decided to send in a help ticket and receive a personal answer on their thoughts on this exclusion. I asked them the usual "If it's free why dont you all make a Linux port ?" . They're email reply was the following:

http://img208.exs.cx/img208/8159/linuxpicasa8lc.jpg

I also found on they're Knowledge Base:

Linux version of Hello

Q. Is there a Linux version of Hello available?

A. Unfortunately, we currently have no plans to develop a Linux version of Hello but we are noting these requests.


So for all y'all Linux-Gmail lovers like me, maybe if we all send in a good amount of requests (http://www.picasa.com/support/contact.php) for a Linux port, we might be heard . :wink:

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bored2k.

[BWF89]

Hello, I am currently useing (and liking) picasa 2.0.. But there is a problem. I am currently useing Windows XP but when I get a new computer I'll be uprgrading to either Linux. Could you please port Picasa to Linux because we are a large and growing community and supporting Linux would mean more users.

Thank you.

[landotter]

Gmail rocks . I'll say it again. It rocks.

It's incredibly fast, easy to navigate and best of all, it gives us 1gb ( while Hotmail refuses to give me 250mb because "*250MB inbox available only in the 50 United States, District of Columbia, and Puerto Rico." to the point i had to create a new account wich i had to input a fake Florida zip code found on the .net ](*,) ).

So in my daily Gmail used on the "New Features!" I found out about the inclusion of Picasa (http://www.picasa.com/features/index.php) , a killer app for photo organization/upload .

[Duh'] I immediately clicked the Free Download (http://www.picasa.com/download/index.php) button almost already knowing it would not have Linux support .

So i decided to send in a help ticket and receive a personal answer on their thoughts on this exclusion. I asked them the usual "If it's free why dont you all make a Linux port ?" . They're email reply was the following:

http://img208.exs.cx/img208/8159/linuxpicasa8lc.jpg

I also found on they're Knowledge Base:


So for all y'all Linux-Gmail lovers like me, maybe if we all send in a good amount of requests (http://www.picasa.com/support/contact.php) for a Linux port, we might be heard . :wink:

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bored2k.
Picasa runs under cxoffice/wine well with a major bug--garbled text in the application body. Otherwise it seems to run fine. Making a wine enabled version *shouldn't* be that big of a pain it seems, but I'm no coder, so perhaps I'm mistaken.

[BWF89]

I thought Google's motto was "don't be evil". If they cared about the future of computing they would make their program open source. But they don't because their afraid of someone taking their code and making a better program. Greedy corperations. End rant.

[bored2k]

Picasa runs under cxoffice/wine well with a major bug--garbled text in the application body. Otherwise it seems to run fine. Making a wine enabled version *shouldn't* be that big of a pain it seems, but I'm no coder, so perhaps I'm mistaken.

I haven't given it a try under my CXoffice as im trying to stay the most away from Redmond camp, so thanks for informing me.

"A. Unfortunately, we currently have no plans to develop a Linux version of Hello but we are noting these requests."

On the other hand, I don't see the reason why they would make it winblows only since they don't need each other to function [read Google relies exclusively on Linux platform (http://www.hpworld.com/hpworldnews/hpw009/02nt.html) ].

A. It so doesn't make sense they rely on *nix but offer no support for it in "exchange".

B. I would *think* a direct port, not a wine one would run "less" buggy ...

C. Gaming-Photoshop-Macromedia is enough for wine. I certaintly don't want to have a gazillion .exe's and .dll's here . :roll:

[bored2k]

I thought Google's motto was "don't be evil". If they cared about the future of computing they would make their program open source. But they don't because their afraid of someone taking their code and making a better program. Greedy corperations. End rant.
Word.

[macewan]

As an alternative you could always use Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/) & F-Spot (http://www.gnome.org/projects/f-spot/) - just a thought.

[Quest-Master]

Yeah, I'm requesting it now. ;d

[bored2k]

As an alternative you could always use Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/) & F-Spot (http://www.gnome.org/projects/f-spot/) - just a thought.
I noticed that F-Spot is in hoary's repos`, pretty cool. I might give it a shot in a while.

I would still like 2 see gmail port that tool to Linux, thus giving winblowers one less xcuse to whine about linux.

You would be amazed how many incredibly "X2P'ed" have told me "no thanks, i'd rather use MS Internet Explorer, that way i have theyre cool hotmail upload tool" .

[panickedthumb]

I noticed that F-Spot is in hoary's repos`, pretty cool. I might give it a shot in a while.

I would still like 2 see gmail port that tool to Linux, thus giving winblowers one less xcuse to whine about linux.

You would be amazed how many incredibly "X2P'ed" have told me "no thanks, i'd rather use MS Internet Explorer, that way i have theyre cool hotmail upload tool" .
You do mean Google right? GMail isn't making anything, Google is. They made gmail ;)

Sorry if I'm being an idiot, I'm just clearing that up for anyone who hasn't heard of gmail somehow and doesn't know that Google made it.

[bored2k]

I'm just clearing that up for anyone who hasn't heard of gmail somehow and doesn't know that Google made it.


Google made Gmail ? :o :o :o . Doh! No wonder !! lol

... I was about to write a joke about who doesn't know that , but its a very big world and the community is big, so who knows :wink: .

[DJ_Max]

There's a Python script at sourceforge that does what you may want. Forgot the name.

Also, don't know what it is with Linux user & everything being opensource, and calling businesses who try to make a living greedy, when it's just making ends meet.

*ducks & runs*

[bored2k]

There's a Python script at sourceforge that does what you may want. Forgot the name.

Also, don't know what it is with Linux user & everything being opensource, and calling businesses who try to make a living greedy, when it's just making ends meet.

*ducks & runs*
lol

It does say -free download- , it doesnt necessrily have to be open source; i just what a _______ [radio edit] linux port .

[panickedthumb]

Well, I'd LIKE everything to be open source, but I don't think everyone should have to make it open source. It's the developer's choice.

[landotter]

Well, I'd LIKE everything to be open source, but I don't think everyone should have to make it open source. It's the developer's choice.
I totally agree.

What I do think needs to be open source are the key programs and file formats that are used for information exchange.

The MS Office file formats, in particular, should be phased out, especially in schools to be replaced with the Oasis format. If MS want to enable saving in an open format, and people choose to use MS Office, fine by me. It's not an inherently evil product.

It's already that way for the most part with html and pdf. You can pay money for the Opera web browser, or some of Adobe's pdf tools, but you can also use Mozilla, xpdf, and Openoffice to create perfect pdfs--as the formats themselves aren't deeply secret.

[BWF89]

Well, I'd LIKE everything to be open source, but I don't think everyone should have to make it open source. It's the developer's choice.
I think a law requireing most programs (eventhought it would never happen) to be open source would be the best thing that ever happened to computers. Screw free choice, if people don't want to share and contribute back to the community they should be forced to do so or find another profession.

But if that doesn't work they should atleast me made to release their file formats as GPL so people can develop competeing file formats.

QUESTION: When you sign the EULA it says your not allowed to reverse engineer that program. How is it then that OOo is compatible with MS Word documents?

[bored2k]

I think a law requireing most programs (eventhought it would never happen) to be open source would be the best thing that ever happened to computers. Screw free choice, if people don't want to share and contribute back to the community they should be forced to do so or find another profession.

But if that doesn't work they should atleast me made to release their file formats as GPL so people can develop competeing file formats.

QUESTION: When you sign the EULA it says your not allowed to reverse engineer that program. How is it then that OOo is compatible with MS Word documents?
For that law to be approved B. Gates would have to be killed thrice then shot with a 20 inch thick silver bullet .

[Jad]

Email sent to google.
what about online petition? I think its more affective

[bored2k]

Email sent to google.
what about online petition? I think its more affective
Par example ? [i.e. what are thinking?

[landotter]

I think a law requireing most programs (eventhought it would never happen) to be open source would be the best thing that ever happened to computers. Screw free choice

Screw free choice eh? Computing by fiat? Not a great idea... I'm a pretty far left person politically...but I consider free choice and the market to be very important for the health of the computing/programming world. Take away choice from people and you breed resentment.

Government can encourage a fair playing field by requiring that those that do business with it use non proprietary file formats. That's a more gentle way of doing things.

Schools should be able to use whatever operating systems they want, if they need XP to teach CAD, then so be it. BUT, MS certainly shouldn't be allowed to muscle them the way they do now. If they want, in a small school, 6 XP boxen for CAD and other windows progs, a LTSP server running linux with 50 terminals for basic computing (web, wordprocessing, etc), and a dozen Macs for the art and design department--they should be able to do so w/o paying a licensing penalty.

Government should also promote OpenSource programs where it makes sense. My aunt's a teacher in Sweden, and they had to get underpowered laptops because they OfficeXP licensing was so expensive. I showed her Openoffice--for an elementary school--it was all that they would have needed and they could have saved tens of thousands of dollars--but they just didn't know.

I would love for government to ensure that the bulk of software needed by its citizens is in the "commons" so to speak--but to strong arm such a thing only creates a bad dynamic--it's the same as picking a fight. Instead, government simpy should "grease the track" for opensource and open formats.

[jdong]

Let's not make this political, please?

[poofyhairguy]

Let's not make this political, please?


Sorry jdong. Its in our blood!

[landotter]

Let's not make this political, please?
No, let's definitely make it political--it is.

Let's not let it be ugly.

If there's an elephant in the room, I'm not going to ignore it.

Why are Yanks so scared of a heated, healthy, and diplomatic political dialogue?

Should I avoid the issue and just put a flag on my SUV to make it all better?

:P

[spider7378]

Hi!

For those of you using Picasa with wine having the fonts-problem:

place the following script in ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Picasa2/runtime/ and make it executable by 'chmod +x insert_your_filename_here' in a terminal for that directory

#!/bin/bash
mkdir arialoriginals
mv Arial-12-1.000000-400-0.ytf arialoriginals
mv Arial-14-1.000000-400-0.ytf arialoriginals
mv Arial-14-1.000000-700-0.ytf arialoriginals
mv Arial-18-1.000000-700-0.ytf arialoriginals
mv Arial-24-1.000000-400-0.ytf arialoriginals
ln -s "Praxis Semi Bold-Heavy-12-1.000000-400-0.ytf" Arial-12-1.000000-400-0.ytf
ln -s "Praxis Semi Bold-Heavy-14-1.000000-400-0.ytf" Arial-14-1.000000-400-0.ytf
ln -s "Praxis Semi Bold-Heavy-14-1.000000-400-0.ytf" Arial-14-1.000000-700-0.ytf
ln -s "Praxis Semi Bold-Heavy-18-1.000000-700-0.ytf" Arial-18-1.000000-700-0.ytf
ln -s "Praxis Semi Bold-Heavy-24-1.000000-400-0.ytf" Arial-24-1.000000-400-0.ytf

[landotter]

Hi!

For those of you using Picasa with wine having the fonts-problem:

place the following script in ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Picasa2/runtime/ and make it executable by 'chmod +x insert_your_filename_here' in a terminal for that directory

#!/bin/bash
mkdir arialoriginals
mv Arial-12-1.000000-400-0.ytf arialoriginals
mv Arial-14-1.000000-400-0.ytf arialoriginals
mv Arial-14-1.000000-700-0.ytf arialoriginals
mv Arial-18-1.000000-700-0.ytf arialoriginals
mv Arial-24-1.000000-400-0.ytf arialoriginals
ln -s "Praxis Semi Bold-Heavy-12-1.000000-400-0.ytf" Arial-12-1.000000-400-0.ytf
ln -s "Praxis Semi Bold-Heavy-14-1.000000-400-0.ytf" Arial-14-1.000000-400-0.ytf
ln -s "Praxis Semi Bold-Heavy-14-1.000000-400-0.ytf" Arial-14-1.000000-700-0.ytf
ln -s "Praxis Semi Bold-Heavy-18-1.000000-700-0.ytf" Arial-18-1.000000-700-0.ytf
ln -s "Praxis Semi Bold-Heavy-24-1.000000-400-0.ytf" Arial-24-1.000000-400-0.ytf
Wow! Worked great for me, I just had to change "arialorginals" to "arial" Those w/o the arial font installed could change it to "sans" or something similar.

Neato!!

[bored2k]

Hi!

For those of you using Picasa with wine having the fonts-problem:

place the following script in ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Picasa2/runtime/ and make it executable by 'chmod +x insert_your_filename_here' in a terminal for that directory

#!/bin/bash
mkdir arialoriginals
mv Arial-12-1.000000-400-0.ytf arialoriginals
mv Arial-14-1.000000-400-0.ytf arialoriginals
mv Arial-14-1.000000-700-0.ytf arialoriginals
mv Arial-18-1.000000-700-0.ytf arialoriginals
mv Arial-24-1.000000-400-0.ytf arialoriginals
ln -s "Praxis Semi Bold-Heavy-12-1.000000-400-0.ytf" Arial-12-1.000000-400-0.ytf
ln -s "Praxis Semi Bold-Heavy-14-1.000000-400-0.ytf" Arial-14-1.000000-400-0.ytf
ln -s "Praxis Semi Bold-Heavy-14-1.000000-400-0.ytf" Arial-14-1.000000-700-0.ytf
ln -s "Praxis Semi Bold-Heavy-18-1.000000-700-0.ytf" Arial-18-1.000000-700-0.ytf
ln -s "Praxis Semi Bold-Heavy-24-1.000000-400-0.ytf" Arial-24-1.000000-400-0.ytf
Nice [2x] .

[jdodson]

Let's not let it be ugly.

i agree.

If there's an elephant in the room, I'm not going to ignore it.

ok, i am fine with that.

Why are Yanks so scared of a heated, healthy, and diplomatic political dialogue?

being a yank and not being scared of political dialoge i will be the first to chime in. i agree that software is political, remember that whole patent thing? very political. freedom is political too.

Should I avoid the issue and just put a flag on my SUV to make it all better?

:P

for the love of <insert diety here> no. :smile:

anyways, i think that requiring everything to be opensource is a bit much. now i do think everything should be opensource, but i wont force anyone to make it so. copyright is fine as is, i don't think it needs much change. patents need change. ok strike that patents need death. i don't remember even the most zealos of free software people advocating making everything FLOSS. or at least if the do they keep it secret. i think people should choose FLOSS not be required to make FLOSS. FLOSS is a ideology and a pragmatic software creation concept. fwiw.

if any government makes software i think it should be owned by the people. i don't think it should be gnu though, it should be public domain. because the government is a servant of the people and thus all its created works should be public. well, maybe some military stuff, but the underlying software should be open.

[jdong]

Back to gmail.....

[jdodson]

Back to gmail.....

right. it is a great email service, i use it regularly.

[daigorobr]

For me, Picasa2 works perfectly with Wine.
But I really don't miss it, since Digikam with its plugins just do the job perfetcly.

[MemoryDump]

For me, Picasa2 works perfectly with Wine.
But I really don't miss it, since Digikam with its plugins just do the job perfetcly.

I got Picasa2 working under Wine today however when I try to print I don't see any printers listed. (even though I know they are configured for non-wine apps)

Any ideas?
thxs
-MD

[daigorobr]

Hrm... Never print photos here. Developing them at some photolab was cheaper.
I have no clue on this, but a workaround would be installed (via Wine) some PDF fake printer and using the PDF in any Linux program.

Too much work, I really suggest you to go for Digikam or F-Spot.