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ki4jgt
September 28th, 2011, 10:11 AM
I'm currently developing Python apps on ReactOS so I will have a slight idea as to how they will work in Windows. I noticed on boot it said copyright 1996-2010. It did say ReactOS Team and contributors, but didn't mention Microsoft in anyway. Just asking.

SecretCode
September 28th, 2011, 11:08 AM
The whole point of ReactOS is that it's a "clean room" development with no Microsoft code.

3rdalbum
September 28th, 2011, 11:10 AM
Microsoft doesn't own any copyright in ReactOS. It's been written without any assistance from Microsoft and without using any Microsoft code.

grahammechanical
September 28th, 2011, 02:03 PM
I have not seen that copyright notice so I cannot say for sure to which organisation it refers to, but I guess that the Reactos people are claiming the copyright of their own work. They are entitled to do this. It is not contrary to the principles of Open Source and it prevents dishonest people from stealing the code and copyrighting it in their own name and then extorting money out of people.

Regards.

ki4jgt
September 29th, 2011, 07:29 AM
That's what I was asking, what of their code goes back into 1996?

MG&TL
September 29th, 2011, 07:32 AM
Well, in an OS you build the kernel first (?), so probably that.

Copper Bezel
September 29th, 2011, 09:11 AM
Yeah, the Wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReactOS#History) explains it. The project started in 1996 and was meant to release some code in that year (thus filed a copyright) but had issues.

MonolithImmortal
September 29th, 2011, 06:37 PM
Well, in an OS you build the kernel first (?), so probably that.
http://omgcheesecake.net/public/style_emoticons/default/382.jpg That's not the GNU/way.

Spice Weasel
September 29th, 2011, 06:40 PM
Why are you developing for React OS? I doubt there is anyone that uses it as their sole OS. Besides, isn't Python cross platform?

el_koraco
September 29th, 2011, 07:08 PM
I'm currently developing Python apps on ReactOS so I will have a slight idea as to how they will work in Windows.

if that makes any sense at all.

DangerOnTheRanger
September 29th, 2011, 07:27 PM
Why are you developing for React OS? I doubt there is anyone that uses it as their sole OS. Besides, isn't Python cross platform?

The OP author clearly stated he was testing his program in ReactOS so he would have some idea as to whether his program would work inside Windows. And yes, Python is cross-platform, but you can accidentally use platform-dependent features in it, which the OP was probably testing for.

KiwiNZ
September 29th, 2011, 07:31 PM
Their Copyright notice states from 1998 not 1996 . Their first release was July 1998

ki4jgt
September 30th, 2011, 12:28 AM
The bootup screen says 1996

KiwiNZ
September 30th, 2011, 12:30 AM
Its not a big issue, in more ways than one. ;)

sffvba[e0rt
September 30th, 2011, 05:30 AM
Clearly the boot image is covered from 1996 and the About dialogue only from 1998.


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ki4jgt
September 30th, 2011, 10:34 AM
They've been waiting this long (working this long) on a microsoft replacement?

el_koraco
September 30th, 2011, 12:56 PM
They've been waiting this long (working this long) on a microsoft replacement?

Well, it's hard to reverse engineer a system like Windows. It's not like the code is available.

donkyhotay
September 30th, 2011, 06:16 PM
They've been waiting this long (working this long) on a microsoft replacement?

Building an OS from scratch is a long and involved process, take into account the fact they're trying to reverse engineer an OS that is under active development (trying to hit a moving target) and I honestly don't think it will ever be a viable OS. However it is a good learning tool and a lot of the stuff done in reactOS helps out development of WINE so it's not a complete waste of time.

forrestcupp
September 30th, 2011, 10:52 PM
Their Copyright notice states from 1998 not 1996 . Their first release was July 1998

And the UI still looks like it's from 1998.

DangerOnTheRanger
September 30th, 2011, 10:55 PM
And the UI still looks like it's from 1998.

That's exactly what I was thinking - it really needs to look better.

spoons
October 1st, 2011, 12:41 AM
That's exactly what I was thinking - it really needs to look better.

If you look on their forums they have mostly complete Windows XP themes support in the latest nightlies.

Copper Bezel
October 1st, 2011, 01:19 AM
The goal isn't to have a functioning, good-looking OS. It's supposed to function and look like old versions of Windows. It wouldn't make any sense to try to pretty it up.

The purposes behind that are highly questionable, sure; a perpetually beta emulation of an old version of the platform seems highly dubious as a testing environment.

ki4jgt
October 1st, 2011, 02:39 PM
I don't have a problem with the way it looks as I was just puzzled how they could start in 1996 and hardly no one has heard about them in 15 years. That's all I was wondering.

forrestcupp
October 1st, 2011, 05:45 PM
If you look on their forums they have mostly complete Windows XP themes support in the latest nightlies.

Yeah, but Windows XP looks pretty old, too. ;)