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chriswyatt
August 7th, 2011, 09:37 PM
Just decided to visit the Ubuntu homepage.

http://www.ubuntu.com/

"It works with your favourite apps"

"Compatible with all your devices"

Granted, it's compatible with a lot of applications, either natively or through WINE. And it's compatible with quite a lot of devices, even some legacy devices that no longer work in newer versions.

But all apps, and all devices. This just irritates me.

haqking
August 7th, 2011, 09:39 PM
Just decided to visit the Ubuntu homepage.

http://www.ubuntu.com/

"It works with your favourite apps"

"Compatible with all your devices"

Granted, it's compatible with a lot of applications, either natively or through WINE. And it's compatible with quite a lot of devices, even some legacy devices that no longer work in newer versions.

But all apps, and all devices. This just irritates me.

it says all then shows icons for what it considers to be favourite apps for the majority i assume.
the devices section is a header which then states underneath, a range of devices.

marketing is like that, i wish the burgers in burger king looked like the picture ;-)

KiwiNZ
August 7th, 2011, 09:41 PM
It qualifies it


"Ubuntu works brilliantly with a range of devices. No installation CDs. No fuss. And itís compatible with Windows too! So you can open, edit and share Microsoft Office documents easily."

It also qualifies the Apps compatibility by listing compatible Apps via the logo's below the statement.

chriswyatt
August 7th, 2011, 09:45 PM
This reminds me of OpenOffice.org. 100% compatible with Microsoft Office!

Um... no it's not...

Ubuntu, compatible with all devices! Um... well, actually, when we say 'all' we mean a range of devices.

KiwiNZ
August 7th, 2011, 09:50 PM
This reminds me of OpenOffice.org. 100% compatible with Microsoft Office!

Um... no it's not...

Ubuntu, compatible with all devices! Um... well, actually, when we say 'all' we mean a range of devices.

If they had not qualified it you would have a beef, but they did qualify. What would you rather they said... 'Ubuntu it wont work with your devices so don't down load it'.

haqking
August 7th, 2011, 09:52 PM
This reminds me of OpenOffice.org. 100% compatible with Microsoft Office!

Um... no it's not...

Ubuntu, compatible with all devices! Um... well, actually, when we say 'all' we mean a range of devices.

Since when has any marketing been 100% accurate, as stated above it qualifies them at least.

Internet Explorer 9 is here
Sites are instant. Sites amaze. With the latest version of the browser, fast is now beautiful.



no qulification here and from another famous site ;-)

hakermania
August 7th, 2011, 09:57 PM
Just doing business B)

akand074
August 7th, 2011, 09:58 PM
Yeah, when they said "It works with your favourite apps" they showed the four applications they were referring to. It doesn't even say all, but either way, they specified. It also never says all your devices and they always explain what they are talking about. Nothing is misleading, just good marketing.

madjr
August 7th, 2011, 10:13 PM
Just decided to visit the Ubuntu homepage.

http://www.ubuntu.com/

"It works with your favourite apps"

"Compatible with all your devices"

Granted, it's compatible with a lot of applications, either natively or through WINE. And it's compatible with quite a lot of devices, even some legacy devices that no longer work in newer versions.

But all apps, and all devices. This just irritates me.

you can actually submit a bug report for that if you think it needs some tweaking

KiwiNZ
August 7th, 2011, 10:16 PM
you can actually submit a bug report for that if you think it needs some tweaking

How is a Canonical website marketing statement a ubuntu OS bug?

jerenept
August 8th, 2011, 12:06 AM
How is a Canonical website marketing statement a ubuntu OS bug?

Weird, apparently it is... (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-website)

FlameReaper
August 8th, 2011, 12:27 AM
At least better than having to see the Apple's Mac iLife suite demo which I see almost everyday at my workplace... and this week I'm supposed to make these sell.

These below shows how much they're trying to attract very common users to it.

Garageband:
"Suddenly, everyone can have rhythm." - As if anyone can't have it by using other things.
"Take all-new lessons for guitar and pianos." - I can't really see what's so "all-new" about it...

iPhoto:
"Stunning new full-screen views." - Yeah, yeah...
"Email photos with beautiful new themes." - I really think Apple LOVES the word "beautiful" because I see the same adjective used to describe their iPods.

iMovie:
"Starring Hollywood-style movie trailers." - When the clip in the demo looks so cheesy? The common user will awe. I don't.

And there was another line about how you can spice your iMovie project with effects but they never showed a clip of how that happens while all the other taglines had something to demonstrate it. Dubious marketing? And then we go back to the start of the demo.

I just keep these thoughts to heart, because I'm working there right now for this week (I'm jumping departments every week as training).

You can read some of those taglines here (http://www.apple.com/ilife/).

... By the way, Apple provides sponsored training on "How To Use A Mac" for those who are new to it. What can I say, the more I know.

In short, this is marketing. Even if you yourself know something has its flaws, you still need to be able to present it in spice and sugar topped with cream, else people won't take it. You don't just make something and put it on the shelf hoping someone comes in and takes it to the counter, pay, and leave without saying a word.

haqking
August 8th, 2011, 01:06 AM
Weird, apparently it is... (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-website)

i think it is more for website related issues and not content or marketing strategies.

BeRoot ReBoot
August 8th, 2011, 01:14 AM
This confirms it, Canonical has succombed to the apple disease (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx7v815bYUw).

FlameReaper
August 8th, 2011, 01:36 AM
It's not an Apple-exclusive disease. It's the disease of advertising. Else you might be wondering why people made things such as AdBlock. For some, ads are nothing but overload of information they don't need, and that they are utter evils one must not see.

But that's how it is.

People: "But you can't polish poo."
Marketer: "I have to, it's my job."

haqking
August 8th, 2011, 01:38 AM
It's not an Apple-exclusive disease. It's the disease of advertising. Else you might be wondering why people made things such as AdBlock. For some, ads are nothing but overload of information they don't need, and that they are utter evils one must not see.

But that's how it is.

People: "But you can't polish poo."
Marketer: "I have to, it's my job."

actually you can http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rax27_ZIVM

however i have gone a bit off topic now ;-)

FlameReaper
August 8th, 2011, 03:05 AM
actually you can http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rax27_ZIVM

however i have gone a bit off topic now ;-)

I've seen that just so you know...

Well, that's the pretty much the gist of it. You guys can imagine the feel of trying to sell something you guys dislike very much and see how it affects your performance. Not trying to say Canonical is trying to push to people a product they hate, no, the point is to know that in order to persuade people to take things you are supposed to make them take... You really need sugarcoating in your words...

alexan
August 12th, 2011, 04:37 PM
we can say "all" because you need just the latest, single, version of Ubuntu to achieve a wide range of compatibility that can be matched only with different version of Windows (98/xp/vista/seven/eight).
it is not all-all just because hardware manufacturer like to keep theie dirty secret: that's your hardware manufacturer of choice proble, not ubunt.
all know... plain works.