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blauendonau
June 5th, 2011, 07:19 PM
Yesterday, I finished installing Ubuntu 10.04 on yet another computer in a dual-boot with Windows. And it was flawless - printer, internet, etc., worked excellently out of the box - a true Plug and Play. Upgrading several computers to the newest version every six months is a little too much for me, so I'm sticking to the LTS releases.

After dabbling with Maverick and Natty, Lucid Lynx is the most stable operating system I've ever seen - very rarely a slow-up, never a crash in all the time I've had it. I'd like to thank the Ubuntu developers for creating such a fine operating system that really compares with, and in most cases surpasses, Windows.

Any users of Lucid still out there? Please share your thoughts!

sanderd17
June 5th, 2011, 08:31 PM
I don't use Lucid anymore (exept for my media center, but that just runs XBMC, so I see nothing of Ubuntu anymore), but I remember Lucid as the best OS I've seen this far. Maverick inherited a lot of its good features but Lucid was better.

TBABill
June 5th, 2011, 08:49 PM
I'm not exactly using Lucid, but a derivative of it. I'm using Ultimate Edition 2.6.1, which is awesome. I'm in agreement with how 10.04 is just a great OS. I could easily move up to other versions and I was running 11.04 for a while, even got used to Unity, but I still enjoy the stability 10.04 offers.

No need to upgrade till the next LTS or a year after the LTS comes out :)

throese
June 6th, 2011, 12:55 AM
Lucid Lynx is my OS of choice, until the next Long Term Service distro comes out. =)

marl30
June 6th, 2011, 04:53 PM
That's what I'm planning to go with for my work computers. I'm going to use nothing but LTS releases in the office. As for my personal computer it is Kubuntu 11.04. I will always have a special love for Lucid as that is when I really fell in love with Linux and Ubuntu enough to abandon Windows.

Rod J
June 8th, 2011, 12:12 AM
I'm sticking with Ubuntu Lucid LTS until support runs out. I like the stability of Lucid and don't like updating every six months so long as everything is running fine (if it ain't broke, don't fix it!).

Also, I've got Natty 11.04 installed in another partition to try out Unity and I don't much like it so far. So, another reason to stick with Lucid. I'm probably going to move to Kubuntu next time as I don't like where Gnome3 is going either.

MartyBuntu
June 8th, 2011, 12:31 AM
I'm sticking with Ubuntu Lucid LTS until support runs out. I like the stability of Lucid and don't like updating every six months so long as everything is running fine (if it ain't broke, don't fix it!).

Also, I've got Natty 11.04 installed in another partition to try out Unity and I don't much like it so far. So, another reason to stick with Lucid. I'm probably going to move to Kubuntu next time as I don't like where Gnome3 is going either.

Completely agree.

I ran 11.04 in VirtualBox...that was enough to convince me to stick with 10.04 until the next LTS...

...when I will most likely go with a KDE environment.

nzjethro
June 8th, 2011, 12:48 AM
I started Ubuntu with 10.10, but I've heard a lot of good things about 10.04. I would rollback to it, but I figure there's less than a year until the next LTS, so I can wait.

What's the big idea with LTS releases anyway? What does the LTS mean? I mean, I know it's long term support, but what does this refer to?

kherring7383
June 8th, 2011, 12:53 AM
I have to agree. Every time a new version of Ubuntu is released, it seems that's all that everyone talks about. I too have tried 11.04 and I really don't like Natty. It's still new and needs some work before I'll reconsider using it full time. In it's place I have installed Mint 11 and like it better than Natty. However, for stability, Lucid Lynx and Maverick Meerkat are pretty stable. I use Maverick as my primary OS and play around with Mint too see the new features of 11.04 without the Unity desktop. It's pretty clean and all my apps from 10.10 work just great. But until I make a final choice, I'll stick with 10.10 since I've got it customized just the way I want it. Maybe by the time 11.10 comes out some of the bugs in Natty will be worked out.

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Bitrate
June 8th, 2011, 02:01 AM
Lucid Lynx has been solid as a rock on all of my desktop PCs even with the addition of many PPAs. It just keeps chugging along. The only minor problems i've had with 10.04 involve cosmetic issues with the Gnome desktop and driver conflicts with Compiz. I see no point in adopting the six-monthly Ubuntu upgrade circus as it introduces nothing but problems. With carefully chosen updates and backporting, Lucid can be made into a rolling-type distro.

The best thing of all is the fast, clean and highly functional Gnome 2.3x desktop. It runs rings around Unity and is far more intuitive and customizable.

usagiakumu
June 8th, 2011, 08:21 AM
I have 10.04 for my work laptop. I plan on installing Gentoo with KDE on it when LTS ends, or Kubuntu. My wife likes Unity, and I sort of like it, just not for any extended usage. IMHO, it just seems too OSXish for my taste with a little more lockdown, aka the bar anchored to the left. What with that?

I love 10.04 it networks with all the XP machines at work with ease, and when I bring it home it networks with my Gentoo machines with just as much ease. While I am a KDE fan, and have been one of those rogues who have been in love with KDE 4 since iteration, I just needed something really stable for work.

I have had really one issue with it, it has that "XP" factor, and I feel that a lot of users are going to be hard pressed to just give it up.

anieruddha
June 8th, 2011, 08:37 AM
I too believe Lucid is best. I install lucid last year on my personal laptop, and it works great. Recentally I install natty on office laptop, and it giving me problems. I m going to remove natty and install lucid.

Lucid is best ubuntu.

kg4cna
June 8th, 2011, 11:40 AM
Yesterday, I finished installing Ubuntu 10.04 on yet another computer in a dual-boot with Windows. And it was flawless - printer, internet, etc., worked excellently out of the box - a true Plug and Play. Upgrading several computers to the newest version every six months is a little too much for me, so I'm sticking to the LTS releases.

After dabbling with Maverick and Natty, Lucid Lynx is the most stable operating system I've ever seen - very rarely a slow-up, never a crash in all the time I've had it. I'd like to thank the Ubuntu developers for creating such a fine operating system that really compares with, and in most cases surpasses, Windows.

Any users of Lucid still out there? Please share your thoughts!

Agreed. I still use Hardy 8.04 LTS on my main machine, Lucid 10.04.2 LTS on the laptop and 10.04.02 LTS Server on my little webserver. All are rock solid and have no issues at all. I prefer to stay with the LTS releases and am not a fan of updating every six months.

I'll be watching to see how Unity works out and I'm also keeping an eye on Gnome3, which is looking pretty sharp! In the past, I've used KDE (good experience) and dabbled a bit with XFCE too (also a good experience). There are several to choose from so there is something for everyone!

My thanks to all the Devs too :)

Tamlynmac
June 8th, 2011, 08:15 PM
kg4cna
There are several to choose from so there is something for everyone!

Completely agree. There always seems to be more choices in Linux. 10.04 is definitely a stable and reliable platform, supported until 2013. Xubuntu is also a viable option.

arubislander
June 8th, 2011, 09:58 PM
Lucid is still the main OS on the family desktop. And it hardly needs maintainance... I just need to run the updates once in a while.

I ran Maverick on my netbook, but recently updated to Natty and this time around I'm warming up to Unity. But I don't want to inflict that on everyone, so the desktop will remain on Lucid until then next LTS comes around.

fishwilson
June 8th, 2011, 10:08 PM
Still having the old lynx on my G4 ppc Apple Ibook and its still awesome.

peter d
June 8th, 2011, 11:42 PM
I've been using Lucid on my desktop PC since it was launched. It is the machine I use for work. It has been excellent and I'm sticking with it until the next LTS.

I'm using Natty on my laptop but although I'm enjoying Unity very much I don't feel it's reliable enough yet to use on the machine I need to work well without letting me down. Hopefully by the time 12.04 comes along everything will be as dependable as Lucid has proved to be and I'll upgrade.

In the meantime the laptop gets the latest version.

Keep up the good work.

not found
June 10th, 2011, 08:35 AM
I can relate to OP... even though I am a chronic distro-hopper I find myself back on the Lynx time and time again... Not Ubuntu however, I prefer Kubuntu...


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jtarin
June 10th, 2011, 08:59 AM
It was difficult for me to give up Lucid but since trying Maverick I'm glad I upgraded, but here is where it stops for now. The way things are this might be the last Ubuntu this machine sees.

3rdalbum
June 10th, 2011, 03:18 PM
Funny to think that in a year, people will start threads like this saying "I'm still using Natty, it was such a fine version of Ubuntu they should have made it an LTS; it's so much better than Pellucid Pugalier!" :-)

FormatSeize
June 10th, 2011, 04:01 PM
What's the big idea with LTS releases anyway?
It is for people that want a stable, well supported system for a longer period of time as opposed to something different every six months. And for people that do not want to cope with their eyes bleeding from the horrifying things they see inside their monitor upon installing 11.04 after becoming accustomed to 10.04/10.10.

bokgeneraal
June 10th, 2011, 05:12 PM
Bigups to Lucid. The only Ubuntu I've had on my desktop for one complete year.
Only problem I have is that the mouse cursor theme can't be changed without a workaround found here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWWkveoGgSA

wolfen69
June 10th, 2011, 08:42 PM
Only problem I have is that the mouse cursor theme can't be changed without a workaround found here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWWkveoGgSA

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt46/theroncon/cry_me_a_river.jpg
Just kidding btw. ;)

Antarctica32
June 17th, 2011, 06:43 PM
I still use lucid on all my desktops (including the one I'm on now). It's just so rock solid reliable. I got used to it so fast and now i am a complete master of it. Sadly eventually i will have to upgrade. My next upgrade will probably be to the next LTS (p) which I hear is going to be called Perfect Penguin. I really like the gnome UI and I'm not really a big fan of unity.

MichaelGld
June 17th, 2011, 07:11 PM
I'm sticking with 10.04 as well. I got everything working and don't want the hassle that I've seen many go through with the latest update. Just to see what all the noise was about, I tried 11.04 as a live CD. It looked and felt just like Lucid, no Unity, no dock on the left side of the screen. What's the deal with that?

Bandit
June 17th, 2011, 08:14 PM
I am still installing Lucid on friends computers for stability reasons. It runs great and most of my friends that I installed it for were mostly using WinXP machines and lost their copy of the XP restore CD or just got it got damaged. Took most of them about a week to get used to it, but havent had anyone complain yet. They all love it and most mention that their computers runs as good or better then it did new.

Now I normally run development releases on my system. Currently 11.04 right now, but I am more then likely gonna skip 11.11 and wait till the next LTS before upgrading.

armandh
June 17th, 2011, 10:30 PM
LTS seems to be a fix up of the 2 previous improvements.
and I love the idea of a pause to knock the kinks out,
then two more "great leaps" forward.
for those who wish to pass on being lab rats, stick with the LTS

Rod J
June 18th, 2011, 02:22 AM
Just to see what all the noise was about, I tried 11.04 as a live CD. It looked and felt just like Lucid, no Unity, no dock on the left side of the screen. What's the deal with that?

I did the same myself and was disappointed the LiveCD didn't start in Unity. I then installed 11.04 on the hard drive and even then Unity wasn't there. It wasn't until I installed the proprietary driver for my nVidia 7600GS graphics card that I was able to see Unity in all its glory ... NOT! :rolleyes:

Terzi
August 11th, 2011, 12:16 PM
Had Lucid on my old desktop since it came out, and then installed the same version it on a Dell Latitude netbook. Both have worked (almost) without fail. I had to put the Windows drivers in for my Belkin wireless receiver and use sudo shutdown -h for the desktop, but apart from that I have had no trouble (Karmic didn't always start reliably).

I will wait for the next LTS, as I have it just the way I want right now, and don't feel like going through the whole installation process again (I wish I could have clutterview, though).

kvv_1986
August 11th, 2011, 04:45 PM
don't feel like going through the whole installation process again (I wish I could have clutterview, though).

Don't worry. It's just fancy overrated stuff, so you are not missing out. IMO, Stability of desktop is more important in some cases. :)

ventrical
August 11th, 2011, 07:39 PM
I know for sure I'll miss Lucid when it's gone .. but that's a ways into the future so I won't worry about it now. I just hope that enough devs get together and try to keep frugal updates for Lucid after it's EOL. Lucid has got to be the most rock solid OS that has existed so far for internet users. It far surpasses all of the capabilities of it's rivals. And Lucid is the master of the persistive pendrive !! Lucid has proven that any PC user anywhere may never need a harddrive again.

zero244
August 16th, 2011, 06:23 PM
Im past the distro hopping for the most part.
Rather than spending tons of time configuring your OS, I would rather just use it.
Lucid is a fine piece of work.
We still have about a year and a half to use Lucid, and longer if you don't need the repos.
I used Hardy a few months after the repos came down......I basically forgot Hardy was out of time.
When I tried to access the nonexistent repos I decided to try Lucid and have been using it ever since.

Megaptera
August 16th, 2011, 08:44 PM
I too am a distro-hopper but keep Lucid on my laptop. It's great ... tech-speak or what!!!

beew
August 16th, 2011, 11:09 PM
It may still be 'fine' but Maverick and Natty are a lot better in terms of speed, hardware compatibility and up to date software (which can be remedied by ppas, but even the ppa offerings in Lucid are falling behind comparing to Maverick and Natty) I believe in progress, I expect things to get better and better and overall they are (there are wrinkles here and there for sure, but these are often exaggerated and they are no reason to cling to the past,--Lucid is not the past yet but it is superseded in many ways)

It is just slightly more than one year, but looking back it is amazing how much progress has been made and the short comings of Lucid show in comparison. I cannot imagine myself going back to Lucid at this point except for very old hardwares.

Euroman
August 17th, 2011, 10:21 AM
Im past the distro hopping for the most part.
Rather than spending tons of time configuring your OS, I would rather just use it.
Lucid is a fine piece of work.
We still have about a year and a half to use Lucid, and longer if you don't need the repos.
I used Hardy a few months after the repos came down......I basically forgot Hardy was out of time.
When I tried to access the nonexistent repos I decided to try Lucid and have been using it ever since.

You can always add the old-releases repo for that particular version so you can fetch all available updates (so you can get that old release as patched as possible) and install packages (especially important for the proprietary drivers). Of course the old-releases repository does not receive all the new stuff and fixes. I recently hooked up a Xubuntu 7.10 install to the old-releases and there were 150 updates available :)

zero244
August 17th, 2011, 07:41 PM
You can always add the old-releases repo for that particular version so you can fetch all available updates (so you can get that old release as patched as possible) and install packages (especially important for the proprietary drivers). Of course the old-releases repository does not receive all the new stuff and fixes. I recently hooked up a Xubuntu 7.10 install to the old-releases and there were 150 updates available :)

I remember reading about doing that.....What do you do download the whole repo and keep it on dvd's.

beew
August 17th, 2011, 07:51 PM
You can always add the old-releases repo for that particular version so you can fetch all available updates (so you can get that old release as patched as possible) and install packages (especially important for the proprietary drivers). Of course the old-releases repository does not receive all the new stuff and fixes. I recently hooked up a Xubuntu 7.10 install to the old-releases and there were 150 updates available :)

I hate to say this, but this is really taking fear of change to a new level.

zero244
August 17th, 2011, 11:14 PM
I hate to say this, but this is really taking fear of change to a new level.

You left out "All we have to fear is fear itself" :popcorn:

All kidding aside....with me its not fear....it is more the time it takes to upgrade several machines.

If someone has been running version 10.04 for a couple years....then the next LTS release comes out. You cant go from a 10x version to 12x without a fresh install.

Where as many people might like to keep their current version of Ubuntu till they are forced to upgrade their hardware.
But in all fairness the same holds true for most all operating systems.

Ubuntu is still my OS of choice.

Euroman
August 17th, 2011, 11:15 PM
I hate to say this, but this is really taking fear of change to a new level.

I'm not really using the 7.10 install, it was just to see if I could bring back an old PC (Pentium III 500 Mhz) to live. And it's cool to see the repositories still work. The main reason for using 7.10 was that a. it still has support for the Riva TNT2 on board (the legacy drivers for that card are not in the 10.04 repos for example) b. It has proven to run on that machine and support the wireless card ootb and c. It was the only old version I could find a LiveCD from around my desk.

However I fully agree it's not a serious alternative to a modern, supported, Ubuntu. You just reach the sad conclusion that these machines (12 years old) are simply not capable of today's daily tasks with reasonable performance.

Bitrate
August 20th, 2011, 11:14 AM
It may still be 'fine' but Maverick and Natty are a lot better in terms of speed, hardware compatibility and up to date software

I disagree completely with the speed remark. Lucid is flat out faster to boot and load than any other Ubuntu release thus far. One doesn't even need empirical evidence to see the difference - it's visibly clear to anyone running the distro.

Maverick is a pig in mud compared with Lucid when it comes to speed.

beew
August 21st, 2011, 02:58 AM
I disagree completely with the speed remark. Lucid is flat out faster to boot and load than any other Ubuntu release thus far. One doesn't even need empirical evidence to see the difference - it's visibly clear to anyone running the distro.

Maverick is a pig in mud compared with Lucid when it comes to speed.

I wonder what hardware you are using. Tested on machines ranging from 6 year old to 1.5 year old and 10.10 wins hand down over 10.04 in terms of speed. Boot time on my mainlaptop (10.10) is about 15 seconds (before it was 25s, and then some magic happened) 11.04 doesn't boot as fast,-- a short delay to load Unity, I think,--but once booted it is even faster and smoother than 10.10.

XubuRoxMySox
August 21st, 2011, 04:27 AM
Well, faster boot and shutdown times are laudable goals, but they come at a cost sometimes. All this pursuit of faster and blingier and prettier and brighter is fine for the bleeding edge, but not what we expect in a LTS version when we're using it for stability.

When buggy beta stuff like PulseAudio and Plymouth show up in Xubuntu and Lubuntu - which are marketed for "older computers" and "modest hardware," it makes we uneasy... I worry that the next LTS - even the "lightweight" variants - will simply be too much for my hardware with all that "latest and greatest" stuff.

beew
August 21st, 2011, 04:40 AM
Well any Ubuntu is way lighter than Windows. I run Ubuntu 11.04 with full Unity on a 6 year old hand me down Dell D410 with barely 1G of ram and it is faster than XP (and faster than 10.04 for that matter) and takes up much less space. Vista or Win7 would not even install on this thing (now Xubuntu 11.04 is even faster but it is buggy for reasons unrelated to Ubuntu,--since Ubuntu 11.04 doesn't have these problems,-- probably xfce bugs)

You can't expect Ubuntu to forever work on 1990's hardware, there are other distros for that. Ubuntu aims to be a full feature modern OS.

P.S. Pulseaudio is fine, it might be buggy before.

px200e
August 27th, 2011, 03:03 PM
Bye all the forum,
one year for me too, Lucid is perfect, my laptop (Aspire 5720) is fast and reactive.
One question:
I don't like Unity and Gnome 3, I would leave for ever Ubuntu Lucid.
What will happen when Canonical ending updates ( I think in 2013)?
It will possible manually update the main softwares like Firefox, Thunderbird, Flash Player, Java and others?