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nrundy
May 28th, 2011, 09:49 PM
Some of the features found in Windows7 Explorer have proven to be handy. I find myself wishing Nautilus had them:

-Preview Pane
-ability to see if a folder is empty or full by looking at it
-ability to sort items by Type in Categories so each type is demarcated from the others
-additional file sorting options in the List heading
-ability to see mp3 Title headings in the List heading

3xp10r3r|X13
May 28th, 2011, 09:59 PM
dolphi is able to do all those :D

VTPoet
May 28th, 2011, 10:28 PM
dolphi is able to do all those :D

No it's not. :(

Aquix
May 28th, 2011, 10:47 PM
Don't forget the ability to lasso select files. Been waiting for years for that one. Why I use thunar :)

kev77
May 28th, 2011, 10:54 PM
Don't forget the ability to lasso select files. Been waiting for years for that one. Why I use thunar :)

You can lasso select files in nautilus as long as you are not in list view! :)

nrundy
May 28th, 2011, 11:00 PM
hmm. I didn't know Win7 Explorer had the lasso feature. I'm gonna have to figure out how to use that. Sounds cool.

disabledaccount
May 28th, 2011, 11:03 PM
I wish Explorer to not hung/freeze
I wish Explorer to preview-play file when pointer is over file icon
I wish Explorer to have tabs and secondary panel view
I wish Explorer to not change access time while copying
I wish Explorer to have at least 1% of abilities that Filemaster had 15 years ago on Amiga being only 200kb executable

...I wish Nautilus to not become Explorer
;)

Dustin2128
May 28th, 2011, 11:11 PM
Win7 file explorer annoys the hell out of me- if you have a file highlighted in explorer while editing it (e.g. double clicked it to edit) it won't let you save because it's "in use". Besides that, it crashes for me all the time, and is generally buggy.

VTPoet
May 28th, 2011, 11:22 PM
Nautilus, Dolphin, Thunar... none of them go much beyond what the Windows 3.1 file manager could do. It's the one area where linux drastically trails behind Windows. No single file manager can do what Windows Explorer can do. Linux users have to bloat their systems with specialized file managers that, even when specialized, often lack features found in Windows Explorer.

disabledaccount
May 28th, 2011, 11:32 PM
Nautilus, Dolphin, Thunar... none of them go much beyond what the Windows 3.1 file manager could do.Buaha ha, that's really funny, but fortuatelly You're just wrong. Have You tried Nautilus ever? Because it seems You haven't.

el_koraco
May 28th, 2011, 11:37 PM
Does Explorer have the split pane view yet? I've always found it to be the best feature in the Linux file managers. That and the built-in ftp clients.

VTPoet
May 28th, 2011, 11:39 PM
Buaha ha, that's really funny, but fortuatelly You're just wrong. Have You tried Nautilus ever? Because it seems You haven't.

Yeah... I've been using Nautilus for three years now. I've had this argument before.

I'll leave it this way: If you think I'm wrong, send me a screenshot of Nautilus, Thunar or Dophin managing anything near the metadata that Explorer can handle. I won't hold my breath...

Primefalcon
May 28th, 2011, 11:41 PM
Does Explorer have the split pane view yet? I've always found it to be the best feature in the Linux file managers. That and the built-in ftp clients.
I use nautilus to access ssh a lot, I just wish it wouldn't time out the session which connecting to my webhost (the reason I still use filezilla over raw nautilus still) you can leave that open and idle for hours and come back and continue working

Dustin2128
May 28th, 2011, 11:43 PM
Nautilus, Dolphin, Thunar... none of them go much beyond what the Windows 3.1 file manager could do. It's the one area where linux drastically trails behind Windows. No single file manager can do what Windows Explorer can do. Linux users have to bloat their systems with specialized file managers that, even when specialized, often lack features found in Windows Explorer.
Hm, is this a desperate cry for developers to work on your new file manager? 'Cos it's wrong.

matthewbpt
May 28th, 2011, 11:47 PM
I use nautilus to access ssh a lot, I just wish it wouldn't time out the session which connecting to my webhost (the reason I still use filezilla over raw nautilus still) you can leave that open and idle for hours and come back and continue working
Just add the line


ServerAliveInterval 60

to /etc/ssh_config, this will make the client send a keep alive signal to the server every 60 seconds, this way the session will never time out.

I prefer Nautilus to the Win7 file manager definitely ... gvfs alone makes it way better IMO. I've never found I needed all the extra metadata the windows one provides, so that doesn't bother me at all.

VTPoet
May 29th, 2011, 12:00 AM
Hm, is this a desperate cry for developers to work on your new file manager? 'Cos it's wrong.

Are you going to keep holding your breath until your pink, stomping your feet, and telling me I' m wrong, wrong, wrong? Or are you or anyone in disagreement going to man up and give me that screen shot of Nautilus, Thunar or Dolphin handling anywhere near the metadata that Explorer can manage? :popcorn:

el_koraco
May 29th, 2011, 12:02 AM
what's metadata?

VTPoet
May 29th, 2011, 12:42 AM
what's metadata?

Tags. Mostly in multimedia files but increasingly elsewhere. It's possible to add the ability to read some tags in Nautilus and the other managers, but it's nothing compared to Explorer.

I assume this is what the OP was referring to, in part at least, when he wrote:

-additional file sorting options in the List heading
-ability to see mp3 Title headings in the List heading

I've had this argument elsewhere and defenders of Linux's file management status quo cry "bloat". Whatever. The bottom line is that Linux file management, as far as the needs of the desktop user is concerned, is woefully primitive. Guess that's just the way it is and for the most part I can live without the sophistication, except when I need to manage multimedia files or files with specialized meta-data (tags).

el_koraco
May 29th, 2011, 12:47 AM
Ah, I guess that can be useful when having large multimedia collection and such. So that's what they talk about when they mention tags in the media players!

sffvba[e0rt
May 29th, 2011, 01:30 AM
I have found Nautilus to be very good at what it does... And having used Windows 7 since the Public RC I haven't ever found anything in either the file managers that I just had to have in the other... Hey, that is just me... YMMV...



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beew
May 29th, 2011, 01:53 AM
Tags will be useful if you have 1tB of pirated music, I presume. :) Duck..

Dustin2128
May 29th, 2011, 02:10 AM
Are you going to keep holding your breath until your pink, stomping your feet, and telling me I' m wrong, wrong, wrong? Or are you or anyone in disagreement going to man up and give me that screen shot of Nautilus, Thunar or Dolphin handling anywhere near the metadata that Explorer can manage? :popcorn:
http://internet.ls-la.net/ms-evolution/windows-3.1/windows-3.1-25.png
vs
http://www.desktoplinux.com/files/misc/kde4-dolphin.jpgvs.
http://www.file-extensions.org/imgs/articles/faq/01-windows-7-explorer-window-with-show-file-extensions-disabled.png
Actually, better file managers were part of what drew me to linux in the first place. Maybe I'm easily impressed, but as opposed to the windows file manager (this was before I had used vista/7 though, it's better but not as good), dolphin back in '08 played audio files when you moused over, not only showed code files as something other than blanks, but gave me icons for each language, and I *think* had previews. Tabbed file browsing is a win too. That you dare compare it to the file manager of windows 3.1 is fit for a duel ;).

krapp
May 29th, 2011, 02:43 AM
Nautilus, Dolphin, Thunar... none of them go much beyond what the Windows 3.1 file manager could do. It's the one area where linux drastically trails behind Windows. No single file manager can do what Windows Explorer can do. Linux users have to bloat their systems with specialized file managers that, even when specialized, often lack features found in Windows Explorer.

I think you're aiming at the wrong mark. In Linux a lot of file managing is done from the command line, which often times is much more efficient than point-click navigating Windows file system trees.

del_diablo
May 29th, 2011, 02:54 AM
I am still waiting for Explorer to support navigation via entering names.
And I am still waiting for something to be done about how default filepaths is setup in Windows.
And I am still waiting for explorer to not use 2-3 second to start up, and the bloody slowdowns.
Otherwise it is not that bad.

As for Linux FM:
1. Stillthink explorers way of doing thumbnails are a marginal improvement
2. Do something about the randomly resizing GUI!

VTPoet
May 29th, 2011, 03:00 AM
Tags will be useful if you have 1tB of pirated music, I presume. :) Duck..

Heh. Luckily for me, I built my music library, and I do mean library, before the era of file sharing. I was a classical music buyer at one of the big CD chains, one among many that went bankrupt. I bought all my music at cost. I say luckily because I would have gotten sucked into the file sharing if I hadn't already owned everything.

spupy
May 29th, 2011, 03:01 AM
Are you going to keep holding your breath until your pink, stomping your feet, and telling me I' m wrong, wrong, wrong? Or are you or anyone in disagreement going to man up and give me that screen shot of Nautilus, Thunar or Dolphin handling anywhere near the metadata that Explorer can manage? :popcorn:

Explorer does have some amazing features, mostly regarding metadata, sorting and the list view with the details. Dolphin (IMO the best for Linux at the moment) comes nowhere near Explorer in that category.

Too bad these are features are rarely use. Considering the features of a file manager that I use, Dolphin seems a superior program.

On a side note, I could go to a Windows forum and post a thread titled "Wish Explorer had more features found in Dolphin" and the effect will be the same as observed here.



-ability to see mp3 Title headings in the List heading

OH NO. This is the most annoying feature of Windows Explorer.
"Oh, you got an audio file in this folder along the other 100s of files. Let me show their non-existent id3 tags and hide the file size and extension columns, because it looks like a music folder. There!"

Quadunit404
May 29th, 2011, 04:31 AM
$5 that someone attempts to port Nautilus to Windows.

GTK already exists on Windows, so why not? :wink:

Spr0k3t
May 29th, 2011, 04:52 AM
The way I look at it, file managers are great for handling file management. Music managers are great for handling music libraries. Picture managers are great for handling picture collections. There's a reason why highly specialised managers exist for files which almost require metadata. Why doesn't explorer go out and get the lyrics of the song I just selected? Or show me what the HDR image of the twelve images would look like in the lassod set? Let's not forget nautilus has very healthy scripting capabilities, most of which remain completely untapped. What about embedding a command prompt inside of explorer for whatever directory you are currently in? You can do preview of file data, metadata, media, rsyncing, you name it. There's tons of stuff you just can't do in explorer without some third party bloated app that's already scriptable plugin ability inside nautilus.

Nautilus may not be the BFG of file managers, but the old six-gun still holds a few extra bullets.

MarcusW
May 29th, 2011, 07:25 AM
Nautilus, Dolphin, Thunar... none of them go much beyond what the Windows 3.1 file manager could do. It's the one area where linux drastically trails behind Windows. No single file manager can do what Windows Explorer can do. Linux users have to bloat their systems with specialized file managers that, even when specialized, often lack features found in Windows Explorer.

Nautilus doesn't do everything Windows Explorer does, and Windows Explorer doesn't do everything Nautilus does. I personally prefer nautilus, not a big fan of vista-and-later Windows Explorer.

doas777
May 29th, 2011, 07:29 AM
Op, that may be the case, but at the same time the thing that annoys me most is that explorer doesn't support tabs.

3177
May 29th, 2011, 07:34 AM
The way I look at it, file managers are great for handling file management. Music managers are great for handling music libraries. Picture managers are great for handling picture collections. There's a reason why highly specialised managers exist for files which almost require metadata. Why doesn't explorer go out and get the lyrics of the song I just selected? Or show me what the HDR image of the twelve images would look like in the lassod set? Let's not forget nautilus has very healthy scripting capabilities, most of which remain completely untapped. What about embedding a command prompt inside of explorer for whatever directory you are currently in? You can do preview of file data, metadata, media, rsyncing, you name it. There's tons of stuff you just can't do in explorer without some third party bloated app that's already scriptable plugin ability inside nautilus.

Nautilus may not be the BFG of file managers, but the old six-gun still holds a few extra bullets.

well said:P
+1

disabledaccount
May 29th, 2011, 01:59 PM
Yeah... I've been using Nautilus for three years now. I've had this argument before.

I'll leave it this way: If you think I'm wrong, send me a screenshot of Nautilus, Thunar or Dophin managing anything near the metadata that Explorer can handle. I won't hold my breath...I won't do your homework - google is freely accessible. So You're using nautilus for 3 years, but it seems that You haven't tried any plugin/extension script. The difference between Dolphin and Nautilus is only in features offered by default.
Here You have one of thousants of possible examples:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=878683

Most of (if not all) metadata is supported under Nautilus and practically everything could be implemented trough extensions/scripts. Besides, You can always switch to win7 if You like it.

VTPoet
May 29th, 2011, 02:39 PM
I won't do your homework - google is freely accessible.

Actually, Google isn't free in Vermont. We're charged to do searches here.


So You're using nautilus for 3 years, but it seems that You haven't tried any plugin/extension script.

The difference between Dolphin and Nautilus is only in features offered by default.
Here You have one of thousants of possible examples:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=878683

Yeah, I've seen this post and have implemented some of it already, but it's still no match for explorer. Some folks succeeded in getting what they wanted. Some didn't. There is much confusion in the overall thread.


Most of (if not all) metadata is supported under Nautilus and practically everything could be implemented trough extensions/scripts. Besides, You can always switch to win7 if You like it.

OK. So why not do it? Shuttleworth wants Ubuntu to knock Windows off its pedestal. If he's serious, then Canonical ought to offer 1 (One) optional extension which will provide all this capability with 1 (one) installation. But, as it is, I dual boot; so I don't care all that much. When I need serious file management, I use Windows.

nrundy
May 29th, 2011, 03:27 PM
I just tried to implement that mp3 header thing. After much time and effort it still isn't working. Regardless, I feel like I have to exert time and effort for something that should really be default.

I think it's really cool that you can do all that stuff with linux. But frankly you have to know programming at least at a basic level. And that's always been the gripe against linux for bringing the desktop to the masses. The masses don't know programming.

Frankly, I don't understand why ubuntu developers themselves don't make a few improvements to Nautilus, like adding in some additional "header column" options and a native Preview Pane. Overall, I like Nautilus a lot. It just lacks some features I feel it should have by now.

lightstream
May 29th, 2011, 04:03 PM
The way I look at it, file managers are great for handling file management. Music managers are great for handling music libraries. Picture managers are great for handling picture collections.


OH NO. This is the most annoying feature of Windows Explorer.
"Oh, you got an audio file in this folder along the other 100s of files. Let me show their non-existent id3 tags and hide the file size and extension columns, because it looks like a music folder. There!"

absolutely agree. why should a file manager try to be all things to all people, it's bound to fail.

OK you might make these loud mouthed power users briefly happy, and so it might have a place in a toy OS such as Windows.

HermanAB
May 29th, 2011, 04:31 PM
My, this troll is pro.

wojox
May 29th, 2011, 05:02 PM
I use nautilus to access ssh a lot, I just wish it wouldn't time out the session which connecting to my webhost (the reason I still use filezilla over raw nautilus still) you can leave that open and idle for hours and come back and continue working

You need AutoSSH (http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=autossh)

doorknob60
May 29th, 2011, 06:08 PM
$5 that someone attempts to port Nautilus to Windows.

GTK already exists on Windows, so why not? :wink:

You can already use Dolphin in Windows if you want :P http://windows.kde.org/

Quadunit404
May 29th, 2011, 06:40 PM
You can already use Dolphin in Windows if you want :P http://windows.kde.org/

Tried that before. It was buggy as hell. Couldn't open anything.

NMFTM
May 30th, 2011, 03:21 PM
Tabbed file browsing is a win too.
Yes, this is the main reason I prefer Nautilus to Explorer. I installed an addon to add tabs to Explorer, but it doesn't work. I've recently switched to Xubuntu and sadly, Thunar doesn't have tabs and the devs have no plans of adding them according to some forum posts I was reading. I'll either have to find an extension or another file manager.

BrokenKingpin
May 30th, 2011, 05:46 PM
Nautilus, Dolphin, Thunar... none of them go much beyond what the Windows 3.1 file manager could do.
You are just plain wrong. Nautilus/Dolphin support tabs/split view and a number of things that the current Explorer does not even support.

Explorer is buggy and slow. I can actually rely on the Linux file managers to copy my damn files, where I can't on Windows.

Of course the Linux file managers could always be improved, but that can be said about any piece of software.

VTPoet
May 30th, 2011, 06:26 PM
Yes, this is the main reason I prefer Nautilus to Explorer. I installed an addon to add tabs to Explorer, but it doesn't work. I've recently switched to Xubuntu and sadly, Thunar doesn't have tabs and the devs have no plans of adding them according to some forum posts I was reading. I'll either have to find an extension or another file manager.

I use Nautilus Elementary in Xubuntu.


You are just plain wrong. Nautilus/Dolphin support tabs/split view and a number of things that the current Explorer does not even support.

Am I? Then why aren't you posting that screenshot showing me all those tags in Nautilus or Dolphin (that ones that Explorer can handle). Is it because talk is cheap?

Secondly, I don't believe the OP opined that tabs/split view and "a number of things" [insert vague filler] were missing from Linux File management. He gave examples. Replying that [insert linux file manager] does QRS when I and others are asking for XYZ is irrelevant. This isn't a beauty pageant. We're talking about what features are not there.


absolutely agree. why should a file manager try to be all things to all people, it's bound to fail.

Yeah, this is the usual riposte. So... you're implying that Windows Explorer is all things to all people? I don't think you are. What the OP requested and what I'd also like to see is not a file manager "that's all things to all people" (the usual fallback position when anybody criticizes linux file managers), but a file manager that's capable of managing files (and that includes managing meta-data folks) as capably as Windows Explorer.

TheSqueak
May 30th, 2011, 07:38 PM
Am I? Then why aren't you posting that screenshot showing me all those tags in Nautilus or Dolphin (that ones that Explorer can handle). Is it because talk is cheap?

Secondly, I don't believe the OP opined that tabs/split view and "a number of things" [insert vague filler] were missing from Linux File management. He gave examples. Replying that [insert linux file manager] does QRS when I and others are asking for XYZ is irrelevant. This isn't a beauty pageant. We're talking about what features are not there.

Except that BrokenKingpin wasn't replying to the OP, he was replying to your quote that:


Nautilus, Dolphin, Thunar... none of them go much beyond what the Windows 3.1 file manager could do.

So yeah, a list of features that [insert file manager here] has is perfectly relevant to disproving your assertion.

NMFTM
May 30th, 2011, 07:43 PM
Explorer is buggy and slow. I can actually rely on the Linux file managers to copy my damn files, where I can't on Windows.
When I go to open my (almost full) 2TB data drive on Linux it opens right up. On Windows 7, I have to sit there and wait at least 15 seconds while it loads all the files.

I use Nautilus Elementary in Xubuntu.
I'll probably use regular Nautilus. I'm not using Xubuntu because my computer's lacking in power, but because I don't like direction Ubuntu's GUI (Unity and/or Gnome Shell) is heading.

but a file manager that's capable of managing files (and that includes managing meta-data folks) as capably as Windows Explorer.
It never occurred to me that displaying mp3 metadata in the file manager is a feature anyone would even want. I keep all my songs sorted: music folder --> band folder --> album folder --> song files. But now that I think about it, if I had a folderless mass storage device (e.g. iPod) where everything's in one giant folder and only sorted via the metadata, that might be useful.

VTPoet
May 30th, 2011, 08:28 PM
Except that BrokenKingpin wasn't replying to the OP, he was replying to your quote that:

"Nautilus, Dolphin, Thunar... none of them go much beyond what the Windows 3.1 file manager could do."

So yeah, a list of features that [insert file manager here] has is perfectly relevant to disproving your assertion.

Not it's not and no he didn't. Here's what he wrote (emphasis mine):

"Nautilus/Dolphin support tabs/split view and a number of things that the current Explorer does not even support."

VTPoet
May 30th, 2011, 08:35 PM
It never occurred to me that displaying mp3 metadata in the file manager is a feature anyone would even want. I keep all my songs sorted: music folder --> band folder --> album folder --> song files. But now that I think about it, if I had a folderless mass storage device (e.g. iPod) where everything's in one giant folder and only sorted via the metadata, that might be useful.

About a year ago I finally liberated my library from Itunes (one massive folder). I had to purchase software capable of extracting all the music and sorting it by tags.

But even so, and once that was done, I had to clean up all the tags and to do that I needed to be able to manage the files via the metadata. I used some specialized software (free on the windows side) that allowed me to bulk edit tags. I also used Explorer to help identify and organize other files. To accomplish the same thing in Linux would require almost more time to setup and prepare (if it were possible at all). I don't use Windows for much anymore, but Windows remains far superior as far as multimedia management goes (and that's not entirely because of MS but because of the software, proprietary and otherwise, available for Windows).

pythonscript
May 30th, 2011, 08:46 PM
The only feature I really miss when I use Ubuntu (in terms of file managers) is those provided by Teracopy for Windows. By itself, the windows explorer isn't all that great (at least not for the basic file management that I do) but teracopy's queued file copying is absolutely great. It blows the nautilus copy, and certainly the windows file copy, dialogs out of the water.

3177
May 30th, 2011, 08:49 PM
The only feature I really miss when I use Ubuntu (in terms of file managers) is those provided by Teracopy for Windows. By itself, the windows explorer isn't all that great (at least not for the basic file management that I do) but teracopy's queued file copying is absolutely great. It blows the nautilus copy, and certainly the windows file copy, dialogs out of the water.

???
my ubuntu= 54mbs copy speed vs my win 7= 35mbs.

pythonscript
May 30th, 2011, 08:57 PM
I don't have a problem with speed in either Ubuntu or Windows 7, and in my post, I didn't mention speed at all. Queued file copying is a feature of Teracopy, a Windows program, that I quite like. Whether I'm copying on the terminal or in a file manager (nautilus, pcmanfm, thunar, etc.) I can't queue files. I'm stuck with them all copying in parallel, unless I jump through some major hoops like sending sigstops and what not to nautilus. For me, that isn't an optimal strategy.

Sorry if I wasn't clear; I wasn't talking about the speed of file copying at all.

akand074
May 30th, 2011, 09:13 PM
Why are you using the file manager so much... for more advanced tasks? Why would you tag stuff in Nautilus? I find that just silly. If you want to tag music, throw all your music files in one folder and then use a music application to tag/organize your music. If you want to do that for pictures, use a picture application etc. A file manager is a file manager. Use applications specifically designed for those tasks for those tasks, don't bloat Nautilus and cause problems/instability like Explorer has. With Unity dash (before I used gnome-do) I barely even had to open a file manager. I mean, that's just how I see it anyways. Just because it doesn't have those specific "extras" doesn't mean it's inferior. It just needs to be very good at doing what it's meant to do, which nautilus does really well, and Explorer does not. If you really need to use your file manager to do all those tasks, then install a different one that has those features (I'm sure one must exist), but I think Nautilus is doing exactly what it needs to do.

NMFTM
May 30th, 2011, 10:34 PM
The only feature I really miss when I use Ubuntu (in terms of file managers) is those provided by Teracopy for Windows...but teracopy's queued file copying is absolutely great.
Queued copying seems like a neat idea. But I can't really think of many real world applications where it'd be a necessity. If I were doing an emergency last minute backup of very important files to an external source during a thunder storm where the power could go out at any minute, that might be a useful feature. As instead of all files copying at once and not knowing for sure which ones copied correctly (unless you had checksums) and didn't, you'd know that at least some of them made it over in one piece. The most critical files would be queued first and so on. But aside from that, I can't think of many practical applications.

pythonscript
May 30th, 2011, 11:00 PM
I use it quite a bit because I'm often in locations with less-than-reliable power grids, so if I start copying a thousand files to a network, I'd rather they copy one at a time instead of all in parallel in case the power fails. I realise that's probably a specialised situation, but whatever reason others have, the idea has thousands of votes on ubuntu brainstorm. It'd be nice if it were at least an option in Nautilus that we could enable somewhere.

TheSqueak
May 30th, 2011, 11:13 PM
Not it's not and no he didn't. Here's what he wrote (emphasis mine):

"Nautilus/Dolphin support tabs/split view and a number of things that the current Explorer does not even support."

Which is both an accurate statement, and a perfectly valid refutation of your claim that "none of them go much beyond what the Windows 3.1 file manager could do", which is what he was replying to.



Now, if you need a few minutes rest, I completely understand. You must be finding it hard work moving the goalposts around so much.

VTPoet
May 30th, 2011, 11:23 PM
Which is both an accurate statement, and a perfectly valid refutation of your claim that "none of them go much beyond what the Windows 3.1 file manager could do", which is what he was replying to.

Now, if you need a few minutes rest, I completely understand. You must be finding it hard work moving the goalposts around so much.

Gaolposts? :popcorn: I have asked for the same thing from the get-go. Where's the screen shot showing me that Nautilus can handle anywhere near the meta-data that Explorer can handle? [See previous posts.]

Now, if you need a few hours (or days) to create such a screenshot, I understand completely. If you would rather compare [insert Linux file manager] to the Windows 3.1 file manager, can't say I blame you. Low hanging fruit, as they say...

TheSqueak
May 30th, 2011, 11:42 PM
Gaolposts? :popcorn: I have asked for the same thing from the get-go. Where's the screen shot showing me that Nautilus can handle anywhere near the meta-data that Explorer can handle? [See previous posts.]


Now, I guess that maybe my years of being cruelly deprived of the wonders of the Windows Explorer have caused me to go blind, but I can't for the life of me see any statement about metadata in the comment (http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10874487&postcount=9) of yours that we're talking about. Could you point it out to me please?



If you would rather compare [insert Linux file manager] to the Windows 3.1 file manager, can't say I blame you. Low hanging fruit, as they say...

See, the problem with that is that you were the person who decided to compare Linux file managers with the Windows 3.1 one (it's in the post I linked a second ago, if you've forgotten what you wrote), we're just calling you on your bullsh*t.

VTPoet
May 30th, 2011, 11:56 PM
Now, I guess that maybe my years of being cruelly deprived of the wonders of the Windows Explorer have caused me to go blind, but I can't for the life of me see any statement about metadata in the comment (http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10874487&postcount=9) of yours that we're talking about. Could you point it out to me please?

Comment of mine that we're talking about? What was that about goalposts? You would prefer to take my comment out of context? I understand completely. That comment followed the OP's comment which, among other shortcomings, noted:

-additional file sorting options in the List heading
-ability to see mp3 Title headings in the List heading

I followed that up with the post you linked.

The bloat (in my comment) refers to the specialized file managers everyone keeps touting. They're good. I use them, but they're necessary because no single linux file manager can handle the meta-data - "additional file sorting options" and "ability to see mp3 title headings", etc... - that Windows Explorer can handle.


See, the problem with that is that you were the person who decided to compare Linux file managers with the Windows 3.1 one (it's in the post I linked a second ago, if you've forgotten what you wrote), we're just calling you on your bullsh*t.

And I stand by that comparison. How does tags or split view, or yadda, yadda, help the OP? - or maybe you would rather ignore the OP? As far as the OP is concerned, any [insert linux file manager] doesn't do much more than the windows 3.1 file manager. So, by continually asking for a screenshot, I'm calling on your bull....

uRock
May 31st, 2011, 06:39 AM
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