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Harry33
May 17th, 2011, 05:53 AM
There are new Gnome3 packages in official Oneiric repos now.
ATM these GTK+2 versions have been upgraded to GTK+3 versions:

- zenity (2.32.1-0ubuntu1) to 3.0.0-1
and zenity-common (3.0.0-1)
- policykit-1-gnome (0.99-1ubuntu4) to 0.101-2ubuntu2
- gconf-editor (2.32.0-0ubuntu2) to 3.0.0-0ubuntu1
and liblaunchpad-integration-3.0-1 (0.1.51)
- avahi (0.6.30-3-ubuntu1)

portis
May 17th, 2011, 08:35 AM
nautilus 1:3.0.1.1-0ubuntu1
gnome-disk-utility 3.0.0-1ubuntu1

23dornot23d
May 17th, 2011, 12:39 PM
Fully updated now re-booted and working.

lucazade
May 17th, 2011, 03:26 PM
I still don't see all this new updates.. I got only baobab, screenshot-tool and search-tool updated to v3.
C'mon servers! :)

edit: I should have waited some other mins.. arrived!

terry_gardener
May 17th, 2011, 03:31 PM
just updated and rebooted and it now looks horrible.

also the picture of all windows etc are staying on the screen after closing the app.

lucazade
May 17th, 2011, 03:35 PM
just updated and rebooted and it now looks horrible.

Gtk murrine engine has not been ported yet to gtk3.. so it is normal.

Probably we'll see a new engine (called Unico if I remember correctly) during OO dev cycle and a new Ambiance theme.

terry_gardener
May 17th, 2011, 03:39 PM
Gtk murrine engine has not been ported yet to gtk3.. so it is normal.

Probably we'll see a new engine (called Unico if I remember correctly) during OO dev cycle and a new Ambiance theme.

thanks for the info

MacUntu
May 17th, 2011, 03:53 PM
Sounds like we'll have some high crash potential during the next few weeks. Going into selective update mode... :D

lucazade
May 17th, 2011, 03:53 PM
thanks for the info

To be more precise there is another issue at the moment that blocks gnome-settings-deamon to start:



$ gnome-settings-daemon

** (gnome-settings-daemon:1728): WARNING **: Ignoring unknown module 'org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.gconf'

** (gnome-settings-daemon:1728): WARNING **: You can only run one xsettings manager at a time; exiting

** (gnome-settings-daemon:1728): WARNING **: Unable to start xsettings manager: Could not initialize xsettings manager.

** (gnome-settings-daemon:1728): WARNING **: Name taken or bus went away - shutting down
Segmentation fault

So also gtk2 apps atm doesn't follow theme and user settings.

This is the blueprint of the migration to Gtk3 stack: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-gtk3-gnome3

JMB74
May 17th, 2011, 03:59 PM
To be more precise there is another issue at the moment that blocks gnome-settings-deamon to start:

I get something different to that.

jmb@ubuntu:~$ killall gnome-settings-daemon
jmb@ubuntu:~$ gnome-settings-daemon &
[2] 19148
[1] Segmentation fault gnome-settings-daemon
jmb@ubuntu:~$
** (gnome-settings-daemon:19148): WARNING **: Ignoring unknown module 'org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.gconf'
jmb@ubuntu:~$ [1305644196,000,xklavier.c:xkl_engine_start_listen/] The backend does not require manual layout management - but it is provided by the application

portis
May 17th, 2011, 04:34 PM
Which version of gnome-settings-daemon are you talking about?
There's a new version 3.0.1-1ubuntu1 just uploaded.

JMB74
May 17th, 2011, 04:41 PM
Seems to be looking better now?

Harry33
May 17th, 2011, 08:16 PM
I get that terrible theme named "Simple" too, and yes it is due to the fact that gnome-settings-daemon does not start properly.

Then, I do not hear login sound nor any other event sounds any more.
That was after I upgraded gnome-desktop-settings, it pulled in libcanberra-gtk3.
Gnome-session-canberra does not work with that.

cecilpierce
May 17th, 2011, 08:35 PM
Thats funny, I installed gNatty and it has Gnome3, Ubuntu Classic and Unity (Ubuntu) and No system sounds on all three but has sound in games and in Firefox ???

Framli
May 17th, 2011, 09:20 PM
https://launchpadlibrarian.net/68342600/gnome-themes-standard_3.0.0.orig.tar.gz

For those who need a decent desktop during our gtk transition, here is a link to Adwaita, the g-shell default theme. Just drag the Adwaita folder to the gnome-appareance-properties window.

MacUntu
May 17th, 2011, 09:45 PM
I'm getting this when trying to install that theme:


"gnome-themes-standard-3.0.0" does not appear to be a valid theme. It may be a theme engine which you need to compile.

afv
May 17th, 2011, 09:56 PM
Thanks Framli.


I'm getting this when trying to install that theme:

It's just the Adwaita folder, not the full .tar.gz, but I'm getting this:

"This theme will not look as intended because the required window manager theme 'Adwaita' is not installed.", even after installing gnome-themes-standard (3.0.0-2) through synaptic…

Framli
May 17th, 2011, 09:57 PM
Yes, same message for me, but session is still getting themed.

MacUntu
May 17th, 2011, 10:02 PM
Oh thanks, now it says "Correctly installed". *facepalm*

afv
May 17th, 2011, 10:20 PM
Yes, same message for me, but session is still getting themed.

Hmm, okay then, I get something like that (my window buttons are on the right instead of being on the left side :-?).

How is your desktop? I'm getting this when everything is minimized:

terry_gardener
May 17th, 2011, 10:23 PM
How is your desktop? I'm getting this when everything is minimized:

yes i am getting the same thing

MacUntu
May 17th, 2011, 10:27 PM
Ditto. Maybe because desktop drawing is disabled by default (maybe I'm mixing something up, but I remember reading something like that)?

Unfortunately there's no dconf-editor without uninstalling dconf atm. :D

Vrroom
May 18th, 2011, 02:27 AM
Ditto. Maybe because desktop drawing is disabled by default (maybe I'm mixing something up, but I remember reading something like that)?

Unfortunately there's no dconf-editor without uninstalling dconf atm. :D

Go the same problem too. Maybe with Intel cards only?????

Framli
May 18th, 2011, 06:47 AM
I had the same problem a few hours ago, but...

Since I have installed gnome-themes and gnome-themes-standard => my desktop is now the nice blue g-shell wallpaper. :o

MacUntu
May 18th, 2011, 07:00 AM
Go the same problem too. Maybe with Intel cards only?????


Looks like that. I'm not getting a desktop with Intel, but it works fine with Nouveau on the same machine.


I had the same problem a few hours ago, but...

Since I have installed gnome-themes and gnome-themes-standard => my desktop is now the nice blue g-shell wallpaper. :o

Confirmed (but not the 'nice' part :P).

JMB74
May 18th, 2011, 08:22 AM
Since I have installed gnome-themes and gnome-themes-standard => my desktop is now the nice blue g-shell wallpaper. :o

I changed mine with:

GSETTINGS_BACKEND=dconf gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background picture-uri "file:///usr/share/backgrounds/gnome/FootFall.png"

Vrroom
May 18th, 2011, 09:15 AM
I had the same problem a few hours ago, but...

Since I have installed gnome-themes and gnome-themes-standard => my desktop is now the nice blue g-shell wallpaper. :o

I installed both the packages and my desktop is still messed up. I can select Adwaita theme from System Settings but there are rendering glitches and window trails on my desktop :(

afv
May 18th, 2011, 11:31 AM
My desktop is now OK (without icons). Just went to dconf-editor, org/gnome/desktop/background and clicked "Set to Default" on all the options. The picture-uri changed from something like /usr/share/themes/.. to file:///usr/share/themes/Adwaita/backgrounds/stripes.jpg :)

Johnsie
May 18th, 2011, 01:19 PM
My gnome2 panel seems to have lost its colouring/bloat/theme. It appears to run alot faster now. 'About Gnome' says that it's version 2.32.1.

I'm wondering if everything will be done in a 6 month period, because there are such massive changes going on over the next few months. Gnome3 integration and a new Unity.

novatillasku
May 18th, 2011, 02:32 PM
My desktop is wonderful today ;-)

http://novatillasku.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Pantallazo-41.png

cecilpierce
May 18th, 2011, 03:51 PM
My desktop is wonderful today ;-)

http://novatillasku.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Pantallazo-41.png

Yea RIGHT !!! :(

Looks just like mine, it WILL get better, I hope :)

Harry33
May 18th, 2011, 05:27 PM
Yea RIGHT !!! :(

Looks just like mine, it WILL get better, I hope :)

It will at least change, if you install gnome-themes-standard.
I got the gnome3 default background that way.
Then again, I'm still using gnome-panel session.

Amaranth
May 18th, 2011, 07:33 PM
You need to enable nautilus drawing the desktop again to get rid of the weird ghost drawing happening on the desktop now.
gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background show-desktop-icons true

Johnsie
May 19th, 2011, 04:10 PM
My desktop (classic mode) is alot less glamorous:

JMB74
May 19th, 2011, 05:08 PM
By installing the Atolm GTK3 theme, I can get the classic desktop looking half decent. Sort of.....

http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/5659/0519001.png

hugmenot
May 19th, 2011, 07:42 PM
I upgraded by, ahem, accident.

The best combination to get a decent looking desktop is to combine Adwaita gtk-3.0 dark variant from git with Ambiance gtk-2.0. Just get Adwaita from git, and copy Ambiance gtk-2.0 folder into Adwaita gtk-2.0 dir.

Also, they have new blue icons which look nice.

Bowmore
May 19th, 2011, 10:57 PM
The easy way around for now is to change the theme in dconf from Adwaita to the one you prefer.

For Ambiance just change Adwaita to Ambiance with

gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface gtk-theme 'Ambiance'
Nautilus though and its right-click menu is depending on gtk-themes-standard settings.

Starks
May 20th, 2011, 12:04 AM
works nicely enough

Hanmac
May 20th, 2011, 05:56 AM
your desktop is nicely ... on mine, i have no desktop icons (its only blue stripes)
it thinks that genview is the default Folder opener (it should be nautilus)
and after i deleted it, it opens with konqueror
my progamms only in kde-bluewhite j can not change the appirance
in process i have a kded4, but on service it says that gdm is runnng and not kdm ..
i must do something very wrong right? :(

Vrroom
May 20th, 2011, 08:03 AM
The most close you can get to Ambiance by having this GTK3 theme --> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Adwance-gtk3?content=141925

Framli
May 20th, 2011, 05:19 PM
- Unity
- GTK3
- Ambiance
:)

http://imagebin.org/154232

MacUntu
May 20th, 2011, 07:18 PM
Heh, how did you change the theme for the controls?

Also, neither does that look like my notebook screen nor like my CRT monitor! :D

http://img.xrmb2.net/166788.jpg (http://img.xrmb2.net/images/166788.png)

JMB74
May 20th, 2011, 07:34 PM
Heh, how did you change the theme for the controls?

Does this work?


gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface gtk-theme 'Adwaita'You would need gnome-themes-standard installed.

I did some hackery to get the gnome-tweak-tool working, but that may be a bit excessive. It should work by default once a build of gnome shell and it's dependancies hits the repo's anyway.

MacUntu
May 20th, 2011, 07:37 PM
Adwaita works, but not Ambiance/Radiance (like in Framli's screenshot).

JMB74
May 20th, 2011, 07:42 PM
Did you install this theme and try switching to that?


The most close you can get to Ambiance by having this GTK3 theme --> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Adwance-gtk3?content=141925

Framli
May 20th, 2011, 09:03 PM
Ambiance GTK3 is a work in progress, here is a quick tutorial to test it. http://imagebin.org/154232
The Unico theme engine, the one Oneiric is going to have by default, is not finished at all.
It breaks some stuff, like opening panels in gnome-control-center.

* First, you need the Unico theme engine:
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/gtk3-engines-unico
or https://launchpad.net/unico (you can try the trunk bzr branch, it builds without problems)

* Then you need Ambiance-gtk3 by Lucazade:
bzr branch lp:~lucazade/+junk/ambiance-gtk3
The contained gtk-3.0 dir needs to go in /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/

* You can then use dconf-editor (from the dconf-tools package) to set the theme:
org>gnome>desktop>interface>gtk-theme>"Ambiance"

MacUntu
May 20th, 2011, 09:55 PM
Awesome, thanks! :-)

shuttleworthwannabe
May 21st, 2011, 12:00 AM
Hi Guys, just to clarify--Ubuntu OO will have Gnome 3 with Shell in its repo, and as an alternative to Unity desktop? This is great news...or did I miss the announcement?

screaminj3sus
May 21st, 2011, 04:12 AM
Hi Guys, just to clarify--Ubuntu OO will have Gnome 3 with Shell in its repo, and as an alternative to Unity desktop? This is great news...or did I miss the announcement?

Most likely. It will be based on gnome 3 so having the shell installable in the repo will be rather trivial.

lucazade
May 21st, 2011, 08:17 AM
Ambiance GTK3 is a work in progress, here is a quick tutorial to test it. http://imagebin.org/154232
The Unico theme engine, the one Oneiric is going to have by default, is not finished at all.
It breaks some stuff, like opening panels in gnome-control-center.

* First, you need the Unico theme engine:
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/gtk3-engines-unico
or https://launchpad.net/unico (you can try the trunk bzr branch, it builds without problems)

* Then you need Ambiance-gtk3 by Lucazade:
bzr branch lp:~lucazade/+junk/ambiance-gtk3
The contained gtk-3.0 dir needs to go in /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/

* You can then use dconf-editor (from the dconf-tools package) to set the theme:
org>gnome>desktop>interface>gtk-theme>"Ambiance"

:) I'm wondering who is this lucazade!
I'd like to point out that theme is in a early stage of development and porting (read 2 days of work),
so I'd expect in a few time to be at least pixel-perfect with Ambiance gtk2 based and if possible better ;)

Hanmac
May 21st, 2011, 08:44 AM
hm ok, but i found no reason why my gnome looks like kde -.-

dino99
May 21st, 2011, 08:54 AM
hm, dont have adwaita nor ambiance installed, only light-themes, and i get the same choices seen in #42 above, everything is working fine.

MacUntu
May 21st, 2011, 12:48 PM
I noticed that the appmenu no longer works. Is this due to installing the Unico theme engine?


:) I'm wondering who is this lucazade!
I'd like to point out that theme is in a early stage of development and porting (read 2 days of work),
so I'd expect in a few time to be at least pixel-perfect with Ambiance gtk2 based and if possible better ;)

\\:D/

Do you know if someone is working on porting Radiance as well?

jbicha
May 21st, 2011, 03:03 PM
MacUntu, the status menus and app menu (indicators) haven't been ported to GTK 3 yet so you won't see the appmenu working with GTK3 apps. That's one example of how the Gnome 3 PPA breaks Ubuntu's look and feel. Of course, it's being worked on and it will be fixed soon.

MacUntu
May 21st, 2011, 03:09 PM
Thanks, wasn't sure what exactly broke them as I did so many updates at once.

lucazade
May 21st, 2011, 03:35 PM
Do you know if someone is working on porting Radiance as well?

No, I don't think anyone is working on it.. maybe it is better to ask to Cimi in #murrine channel, I don't know what are the plans.

Hanmac
May 22nd, 2011, 07:11 PM
i have many problems and i does not know why:

i can not change the desktop background, and there are no icons on the desktop, and i cant even open the context menu of the deskop

other question: why cant i open the nautilus from menu? the LocationsFolder opens gwenview and if i deinstall it it prever Konqueror ... and this on GDM!!

TerminX
May 22nd, 2011, 07:29 PM
i have many problems and i does not know why:

i can not change the desktop background, and there are no icons on the desktop, and i cant even open the context menu of the deskop

other question: why cant i open the nautilus from menu? the LocationsFolder opens gwenview and if i deinstall it it prever Konqueror ... and this on GDM!!
Install gnome-tweak-tool and enable the option for having the file manager handle the desktop.

Hanmac
May 22nd, 2011, 07:56 PM
hm it is installed buf failed to start with:
GLib-GIO-ERROR **: Settings schema 'org.gnome.shell.clock' is not installed

TerminX
May 22nd, 2011, 09:11 PM
Oh, right... I had to add that GNOME 3 PPA for Natty and use those versions of the various packages that haven't made it into Oneiric yet. Forgot about that.

Hanmac
May 22nd, 2011, 09:49 PM
hm i get the gnome-shell from the ppa and aktivate the option
now the icons are back, but the background is not changeable

novatillasku
May 22nd, 2011, 10:06 PM
I install "Adwaita-drakefire" and try my prefer wallpaper, but icons don't work.


http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd295/sku5/ONEIRIC/Pantallazo-1.png

afv
May 23rd, 2011, 02:57 PM
I install "Adwaita-drakefire" and try my prefer wallpaper, but icons don't work.


http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd295/sku5/ONEIRIC/Pantallazo-1.png



Try:


$ gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background show-desktop-icons true

novatillasku
May 23rd, 2011, 06:43 PM
Thank's!

Hanmac
May 23rd, 2011, 07:44 PM
HM!! i can not change the background with the menu and appierance
but it work with gstettings ... *i am confused*
ok problem solved ... i forget to update gnome-control-center, i does not do it before, bacause it deletes a package names capplet-data .. i did not know it was part of gnome-control-center

afv
May 23rd, 2011, 11:27 PM
Was gnome-appearance-properties removed/deprecated?



$ gnome-appearance-properties
The program 'gnome-appearance-properties' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
sudo apt-get install gnome-control-center

$ apt-cache policy gnome-control-center
gnome-control-center:
Installed: 1:3.0.1.1-1ubuntu1


I can't find anything about it on the changelogs:

- https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/gnome-control-center/+changelog
- http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/g/gnome-control-center/gnome-control-center_3.0.1.1-1/changelog

TerminX
May 24th, 2011, 12:05 AM
Yeah, gnome-control-center is pretty much a single unified binary now with most of the functionality of the GNOME 2 version gone.

hugmenot
May 24th, 2011, 06:06 PM
Gnome 3 is one bitter pill after the other.

CreativeReach
May 26th, 2011, 08:19 AM
Gnome 3 is one bitter pill after the other.

Gnome 3.2 will be the water.

ronacc
May 26th, 2011, 12:35 PM
to wash the bitter pill down ? or drown in ?

seeker5528
May 27th, 2011, 12:46 AM
Gnome 3.2 will be the water.

Salt water? :P

Later, Seeker

CreativeReach
May 27th, 2011, 02:04 AM
Salt water? :P

Later, Seeker

No just to help those pills go down.

Harry33
May 27th, 2011, 10:21 AM
We have a lot of Gnome3 packages in Oneiric official repos now.
These are still missing:
- gdm
- gnome-media
- gnome-menus
- gnome-panel (GTK+3)
- gnome-shell

Harry33
May 27th, 2011, 10:32 AM
Those, who want to have gnome-panel3 now (not yet in Oneiric repos),
may go and download it from here (experimental):

https://launchpad.net/~jbicha/+archive/ppa

Just be sure to install gnome-session-fallback too.

JMB74
May 27th, 2011, 01:24 PM
Those, who want to have gnome-panel3 now (not yet in Oneiric repos),
may go and download it from here (experimental):

https://launchpad.net/~jbicha/+archive/ppa (https://launchpad.net/%7Ejbicha/+archive/ppa)

Just be sure to install gnome-session-fallback too.

Does that work usably in the fallback or any other session?

Harry33
May 27th, 2011, 03:15 PM
Does that work usably in the fallback or any other session?

It works only with gnome-session-fallback.

TerminX
May 27th, 2011, 03:45 PM
That PPA is horribly broken... you'd have much better luck just pulling it from git yourself and installing it to /usr/local.

JMB74
May 27th, 2011, 04:11 PM
That PPA is horribly broken... you'd have much better luck just pulling it from git yourself and installing it to /usr/local.

That's the sort of thing I was concerned about.

At the moment I have the old gtk2 panel working fine with at least one session, so I don't want to lose that until there is a reliable panel to replace it.

Squonk07
May 27th, 2011, 04:15 PM
Yeah, gnome-control-center is pretty much a single unified binary now with most of the functionality of the GNOME 2 version gone.

No kidding. I would hope that functionality will creep back in over time, but seeing that the Control Center in Fedora 15 pretty much resembles this "new and improved" version in OO, I'd say that such hope would be foolish.

Definitely a bitter pill, this Gnome 3.

Harry33
May 27th, 2011, 08:38 PM
That PPA is horribly broken... you'd have much better luck just pulling it from git yourself and installing it to /usr/local.

Have you installed the package gnome-panel (3.0.0.1-2ubuntu1) into Oneiric setup with Gnome3 PPA fully integrated?
What issues did you find?

TerminX
May 27th, 2011, 09:41 PM
Yeah, I have to admit I'd be pretty unimpressed and quite possibly even upset over GNOME 3 if I was some kind of hardcore GNOME 2 user. The past few months I've been using AWN with the Cardapio and Dockbar X applets instead of the panel so I haven't been terribly affected by the massive changes, but that didn't stop me from noticing how the control center has been completely raped.

Considering they removed such basic options as changing the fonts and GTK theme (yes, I'm aware of gnome-tweak-tool but it's not an official part of the control center) I'm surprised they didn't go a step further obliterate the preferences that control that kind of stuff under the hood altogether.

The fact that so many options are now hidden away from the typical end user yet still perfectly functional behind the scenes seems to indicate a disconnect between the people actually programming the stuff and the people making the UI design decisions. If a bunch of preferences are clearly still useful enough to maintain all of the supporting code, why aren't they important enough to present to the end user anymore?



Have you installed the package gnome-panel (3.0.0.1-2ubuntu1) into Oneiric setup with Gnome3 PPA fully integrated?
What issues did you find?
The panel segfaulted like mad for me. No such issues when I pulled it from git and built it myself.

Quadunit404
May 27th, 2011, 10:10 PM
I got Ubuntu looking normal through the Adwance theme. Unity seems to be as theme-able as the version in Natty (as in, the window buttons don't change to reflect your current theme) but I'm expecting that to change later on, as the shift to G3 shouldn't be as big as the Compiz rewrite.

Harry33
May 28th, 2011, 01:43 PM
The panel segfaulted like mad for me. No such issues when I pulled it from git and built it myself.

Right, that means I am going to wait until the Gnome-panel3 finds its way into Oneiric repos.
Thanks.

Starks
June 13th, 2011, 01:41 AM
lucazade, any chance at an Ambiance for the GNOME-Shell?

I'd like to be able to use Unity and GNOME-Shell on the same machine without having to switch my themes (gtk, window manager, etc) each time I switch my DE.

lucazade
June 13th, 2011, 05:02 AM
lucazade, any chance at an Ambiance for the GNOME-Shell?

I'd like to be able to use Unity and GNOME-Shell on the same machine without having to switch my themes (gtk, window manager, etc) each time I switch my DE.

Starks don't know at the moment..
Unfortunately gnome-shell doesn't start here in virtualbox (haven't investigated too much about this so maybe my fault) so had no chanche to try it on OO.

In the meanwhile this theme for the shell could be good:
http://half-left.deviantart.com/art/GNOME-Shell-Ubuntu-Ambience-210264151
give it a try

wgarcia
June 13th, 2011, 06:34 AM
Starks: Ubuntu Ambiance Gnome Shell theme:

http://www.webupd8.org/2011/05/ubuntu-ambiance-gnome-shell-theme.html

Starks
June 13th, 2011, 07:09 AM
i have that. doesn't really cooperate well with everything else even if i set everything to ambiance.

there's no ambiance window manager theme aside from adwance.

IanW
June 13th, 2011, 01:17 PM
Starks don't know at the moment..
Unfortunately gnome-shell doesn't start here in virtualbox (haven't investigated too much about this so maybe my fault) so had no chanche to try it on OO.

In the meanwhile this theme for the shell could be good:
http://half-left.deviantart.com/art/GNOME-Shell-Ubuntu-Ambience-210264151
give it a try

VirtualBox needs to be at version 4.0.8 with Guest Additions installed to run GS.

lucazade
June 13th, 2011, 01:42 PM
VirtualBox needs to be at version 4.0.8 with Guest Additions installed to run GS.

i'm using both additions 4.0.8 and 3d enabled but i'm stuck with a blank gnome-shell session. :/

Quadunit404
June 13th, 2011, 06:58 PM
Maybe GS hates your VirtualBox. Under Fedora 15 I could only get the GNOME "Classic" session (with only one panel) even after installing the guest additions and enabling 3D acceleration (no, forced fallback mode wasn't on,) but under Oneiric it works just fine :|

lucazade
June 13th, 2011, 07:06 PM
Maybe GS hates your VirtualBox
Aahah.. yes, it probably hates my vbox..
anyway not a great issue, i'm not in a hurry to try it :)

screaminj3sus
June 14th, 2011, 06:11 AM
Yeah, I have to admit I'd be pretty unimpressed and quite possibly even upset over GNOME 3 if I was some kind of hardcore GNOME 2 user. The past few months I've been using AWN with the Cardapio and Dockbar X applets instead of the panel so I haven't been terribly affected by the massive changes, but that didn't stop me from noticing how the control center has been completely raped.

Considering they removed such basic options as changing the fonts and GTK theme (yes, I'm aware of gnome-tweak-tool but it's not an official part of the control center) I'm surprised they didn't go a step further obliterate the preferences that control that kind of stuff under the hood altogether.

The fact that so many options are now hidden away from the typical end user yet still perfectly functional behind the scenes seems to indicate a disconnect between the people actually programming the stuff and the people making the UI design decisions. If a bunch of preferences are clearly still useful enough to maintain all of the supporting code, why aren't they important enough to present to the end user anymore?



The panel segfaulted like mad for me. No such issues when I pulled it from git and built it myself.

Gnome tweak isn't an "official part of the control center" but it is an officially maintained program. I expect we'll start to see most gnome 3 distros include it by default. Perhaps they should have kept the font settings in the control center, but I have no problem with them moving advanced settings to the tweak tool. Its just as easy for me to change fonts and such as it was before.