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dimaursu16
May 9th, 2011, 04:37 AM
Well... I was looking for a place to ask, or propose this.

So, I have a little problem. I may talk a lot, but please be patient and read it all, if you want to understand me.

I never used Ubuntu before 2010. I did use Puppy Linux. The first thing that impressed me was the repositories, and the way of
getting software... It's just amazing...
(in the past, when my Windows was broken, I needed a day to install it back, to break my fingers pressing with mouse on the "next" button)
I use a lot 3D creation programs , and recently I found that beside Blender, which is a monster of 3D production, there are plenty of applications for doing that on Linux..and they are free. G3D, Wings 3D, Kerkythea, Meshlab, and so on..

But...here comes my problem:

Blender has a new version. Inkscape does. meshlab has critical updates. G3D and kerkythea and other even aren't present on repositories.

Why the heck I must pass trough the "Windows hell and pain in the ***" (TM) and installing them and making shorcuts(for binaries) or compiling from source??!?!

if Canonical doesn't provide updates for that software, then let that part of repository be comunity driven, so it will be update normally.

I know about ppa's but...i use some commands for getting the list of packages and installing them back...but I must add back the ppa's.

that was my point, and I hope it will be heard by someone, and Canonical will take the right decision.

A special message for Canonical: "In the Linux world, community counts, not business, or other stuff. Listen to the voice of community, otherwise, there are 300+ options from which to choose."

Joe of loath
May 9th, 2011, 05:58 AM
Ubuntu is a fixed release distribution. Meaning, once it's released, the only updates are for bugfixes, no major features are added. It's to make it easier for the devs, and to make the distro more stable. If you aren't adding features, you aren't adding bugs that need fixing.

If you always want the latest and greatest, consider using a rolling release distro, such as aptosid, Arch or Foresight.

mikewhatever
May 9th, 2011, 06:03 AM
All of the programs you've mentioned (except Kerkythea, which I couldn't locate) are from the Universe repository which isn't maintained by Canonical, but by MOTUs (Masters of the Univers), or, in other words, the community.
More info on MOTU (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU)

All I can say is that outdated repositories are a known source of dissatisfaction among users, with no solution so far.

dimaursu16
May 9th, 2011, 12:14 PM
Ubuntu is a fixed release distribution. Meaning, once it's released, the only updates are for bugfixes, no major features are added. It's to make it easier for the devs, and to make the distro more stable. If you aren't adding features, you aren't adding bugs that need fixing.

If you always want the latest and greatest, consider using a rolling release distro, such as aptosid, Arch or Foresight.


thank you, I was considering that (switching to Arch, but is damn complicated to install :) )
I or maybe I will dual boot with ubuntu. (to have at least one usable distribution. )

Joe of loath
May 9th, 2011, 01:53 PM
Arch is complicated, but rewarding. I have it dual booted with Ubuntu on my laptop, Ubuntu never gets booted. Once the initial setup is done, it behaves like any other distro.

gilf
May 18th, 2011, 01:27 PM
All of the programs you've mentioned (except Kerkythea, which I couldn't locate) are from the Universe repository which isn't maintained by Canonical, but by MOTUs (Masters of the Univers), or, in other words, the community.

Here ya go:

http://www.kerkythea.net/joomla/index.php

Installation looks straight forward.

Note that the free license specifically forbids alternate mass distribution.

Seems fair enough, considering.