View Full Version : why make it difficult for designated target ?

February 23rd, 2005, 08:50 PM

I have a philosophical question I"m hoping someone can help me with ( and dont give me this 'root' come back as I'm not buying it ) :

does anyone find it a bit odd that to install flash in firefox( which btw if you missed it is a OSS product ) is actually a user friendly experience in windows whereas in 'linux' its designed target its actually forcing user to use a separate prodcut to do so ??? ;-))

I find it higjly not only odd but totally unacceptable..ANAL works for me..

I"m tired of it and I want to see a change or i'm going to a distro that doesn't cut off their nose to spite their face. That is a hard thing for me to say as I love ubuntu but this just realllllly bugs me. I mean we're making it easy for windows users to want to 'stay' in windows by doing these things people and the SAD part is we're using OSS products TO DO IT WITH!!!! Think about it. ;-)

however I'm not willing to just complain about it..Ill contact firefox team and ask if I can help out and make it as easy in linux as it is in windows...;-))..

just wanted to share and see if anyone else has wondered about this ;-))


Buffalo Soldier
February 24th, 2005, 01:20 AM
Correct me if i'm wrong but I think flash is a non-free app (free as in freedom). And I'm happy and prefer it is not install by default.

I think most of us (if not all) are windows-convert. I'm not sure of the reason for others making this conversion but as for me, the security problems caused by Windows being too integrated and automatically installing everything was one of my main reason. I guess it just boils down to why we are here at the first place.

Some GNU/Linux are targeting typical MS Windows users as their "customer". But some GNU/Linux such as Debian (and to a certain degree Ubuntu too) are not targeting typical MS Windows users.

I would like to believe their target users are those who:

are tired of security problems in Windows product by trying to be too user friendly and leading to hindsight in security
believes in the multi-user security approach of Unix which inspired GNU/Linux
believes in free software (free as in freedom)
willing to forgo a certain degree of automation auto-integration

GNU/Linux is not for those who wants to stay in Windows, but for those who needs to get out from Windows