Do we need our own mailinglist

[prometoys]

Hi,

it seems this is a great forum for Ubuntu PowerPC users. But some people, like me, prefer mailinglists. Do you think we need an ubuntu-powerpc mailinglist?

I opened a bug, but this was rejected.

https://launchpad.net/bugs/41736

Dennis told me, I should find people and then ask Jeff Waugh. So here I am searching for people, who also would subscribe such mailinglist.

The mailinglist should be for powerpc-specific problems and questions, because the hardware is a little bit different. For exampe, if you ask something about suspend, you shouldn't get an answer describing ACPI ;)

Regards,

Keywan

[Tommy]

I just noticed your message on the Debian PPC list. There are several of us Ubuntu users who lurk there, but frankly I believe it would be hard to bring us together. I just did a couple of searches to see if you had posted on the users mailing list and couldn't find any postings on this subject.

It's too bad malone isn't considered a place for such a request, though I bet it could be re-phrased in a way that might be considered more apropos.

For example: Improve PPC peer-to-peer support (and offer a mailing list as a suggestion)

Of course, when you DO post in the Users list, you have to be sure to make it very clear you're asking about PPC even in the subject line because as you have implied there are some important differences between platforms. And even then you aren't as likely to get a response.

Oh, and I suspect that even some of the Debian folks on the Debian-PPC list probably keep Ubuntu around for various reasons. The resentment you detect is just a natural reaction by folks who have invested a lot of time and energy in Debian and feel their investment has been diluted by Ubuntu. It seems that over time the energy has truly gone in both directions AND the user base has increased overall, so I believe it is not being diluted now.

One reason I switched from Debian was because of Ubuntu's sensible defaults plus the Debian-derived superior package management. I won't say it has been perfect (and in fact it's moving farther from supporting my oldworld systems) but overall Ubuntu has been quite satisfactory on my Mac PPC hardware.

[Rxke]

If you could 'sell' the idea so that Debian users subscribe too, it'd be great.

As Tommy rightly pointed out, many Debian users see Ubuntu a bit as an almost disrespectful undertaking, taking away their 'steam' but it shouldn't be that way, we could work toghether. Don't laugh, we really could. There's nothing more important than getting feedback from differnt people, I mean: it doesn't matter if you're Ubuntu or Debian- coloured, it's the userbase(numbers) that count. Oftentimes it proves to be important for professional maintainers/developers/writers... to get feedback from moderately new people, to see what works and works not. To see how and why their code is being used.

I'm not such a mailinglist fan myself, I subscribe to some, but I resent having to go trawling to a long list of stuff I'm not interested in when I subscribe to digests, and vice versa, immediate delivery distracts me too much, but I still think it's a good idea.

I never felt the Debian community was a hostile RTFM screaming one, despite them being described that way by some people. It's just not true.
As long as you do a bit of homework yourself before firing off questions, I always found they were very, very helpful, even kind. (I used to run Debian, late 90's, and still have good memories about that time. Much respect to them.)

[ssam]

i much prefer forums to mailing lists. i'd probably sign up, but i would not use it for posting questions.