What version of Debian is Ubuntu based on?

[Peter Mount]

Hi

I read that Ubuntu is based on Debian unstable. Is this true?

What version of Debian will the next version of Ubuntu be based on?

Thanks

Peter Mount

[adbak]

Hi

I read that Ubuntu is based on Debian unstable. Is this true?

What version of Debian will the next version of Ubuntu be based on?

Thanks

Peter Mount
Ubuntu is based on Debian "Sid" which is unstable. All Ubuntu releases will be based off of unstable but will go under close scrutiny under the eyes of Canonical to make sure there are as few bugs as possible.

Brief aside: for some reason, the different Debians are named after characters on the animated movie Toy Story. Debian stable is Woody, Debian testing is Sarge, and Debian unstable is Sid.

[techn9ne]

Does Ubuntu resync w/ debian each release or is it a complete fork?

[panickedthumb]

Debian Unstable, from what I understand, will ALWAYS be called sid. So once Sarge gets released as stable, they'll pull a snapshot from Sid and call it something else, but Sid will still be the same. If I'm wrong, about this, let me know.

But from what I understand, it's not a complete resync or a complete fork.

[akurashy]

why ubuntu doesn't use stable versions?

[panickedthumb]

They take the unstable snapshot and fix it so that it IS stable. Stable by Debian terms is insane. If they used stable debian, they'd be using packages that are very old. I'm not even sure the 2.6 kernel has hit yet.

[gny]

Debian Unstable, from what I understand, will ALWAYS be called sid. So once Sarge gets released as stable, they'll pull a snapshot from Sid and call it something else, but Sid will still be the same. If I'm wrong, about this, let me know.

Yepp, you are quite right about this.

[rufius]

why ubuntu doesn't use stable versions?
Debian stable (woody) still defaults to kernel 2.2 to give you an idea of how old we're talking.

[Dylanby]

Does Ubuntu resync w/ debian each release or is it a complete fork?

It resync's near each release. During the intervals where they're separate Ubuntu still sends patches & fixes back to Debian.
One of the Ubuntu developers Scott James Remnant put a small diagram on his blog (http://www.netsplit.com/blog/work/canonical/ubuntu_and_debian.html).

[akurashy]

that is crazy >_< lol
why would a "stable" (woody) would have kernel 2.2 >_> arent they supose to keep the latest things? oh well i never oging to understand them :p

[panickedthumb]

No-- Debian never claimed they were going to have the latest software. they only claimed that they would test the crap out of it and give a stable system.

[adbak]

Right. Debian's stable is just that -- stable. The programs may have been written years ago and have since undergone extensive testing to the point where there are little, if any, bugs. It is pretty much guaranteed to be stable. It's ideal for servers where you can just "set it and forget it" if you will.

However, that is also it's downside. Outdated apps aren't everyone's cup of tea.

[Jad]

even if its based on Unstable debian that doesnt mean we will not have stable ubuntu, because debian stable is a very hard approach, that what ubuntu trying to avoid.

[Peter Mount]

Hi

I guess I'll just have to "suck it and see" when the Ubuntu CD's arrive. I just have to get my "proverbial" into gear and actually try these things out. Though with my IT subject requiring Fedora Core 3 I'll be limited to the Live CD of Ubuntu until after first semester is completed.

Thanks

Peter Mount

[panickedthumb]

You can always dual boot Fedora and Ubuntu ;)