View Full Version : Linux/Ubuntu answer to Vista features (lets make a list)
joflow
April 17th, 2006, 02:28 PM
Vista is introducing alot of new features and I'm pretty sure we can (or will very shortly) replicate most of those features in Ubuntu.
Aero glass - XGL/Compiz. Compiz doesn't seem to be as advanced right now but at its current rate of development could very well surpass Vista before its even released.
Integrated desktop search - seems to be covered pretty well by Beagle especially with nautilus now being able to display beagle search results.
Virtual Folders - A feature of Beagle/Nautilus integration according to arstechia "GNOME 2.14 also gets Nautilus search integration with optional Beagle support! Users can save searches as virtual search directories which can be added to the Nautilus bookmarks list."
Integrated Speech Recognition - ??
Sync Center (offers "unifying synchronization experience") - ??
Windows Backup - ??
Volume Shadow Copy ("Volume Shadow Copy automatically creates point-in-time copies of files as you work, so you can quickly and easily retrieve versions of a document you may have accidentally deleted or overwritten.") - ??
xXx 0wn3d xXx
April 17th, 2006, 02:32 PM
Vista is introducing alot of new features and I'm pretty sure we can (or will very shortly) replicate most of those features in Ubuntu.
Aero glass - XGL/Compiz. Compiz doesn't seem to be as advanced right now but at its current rate of development could very well surpass Vista before its even released.
Integrated desktop search - seems to be covered pretty well by Beagle especially with nautilus now being able to display beagle search results.
Virtual Folders - A feature of Beagle/Nautilus integration according to arstechia "GNOME 2.14 also gets Nautilus search integration with optional Beagle support! Users can save searches as virtual search directories which can be added to the Nautilus bookmarks list."
Integrated Speech Recognition - ??
Sync Center (offers "unifying synchronization experience") - ??
Windows Backup - ??
Volume Shadow Copy ("Volume Shadow Copy automatically creates point-in-time copies of files as you work, so you can quickly and easily retrieve versions of a document you may have accidentally deleted or overwritten.") - ??
You can download a back-up/restore program for Ubuntu so we almost have an equilivlent to Windows Backup.
GreyFox503
April 17th, 2006, 04:36 PM
Vista is introducing alot of new features and I'm pretty sure we can (or will very shortly) replicate most of those features in Ubuntu.
Aero glass - XGL/Compiz. Compiz doesn't seem to be as advanced right now but at its current rate of development could very well surpass Vista before its even released.
Integrated desktop search - seems to be covered pretty well by Beagle especially with nautilus now being able to display beagle search results.
Virtual Folders - A feature of Beagle/Nautilus integration according to arstechia "GNOME 2.14 also gets Nautilus search integration with optional Beagle support! Users can save searches as virtual search directories which can be added to the Nautilus bookmarks list."
Integrated Speech Recognition - ??
Sync Center (offers "unifying synchronization experience") - ??
Windows Backup - ??
Volume Shadow Copy ("Volume Shadow Copy automatically creates point-in-time copies of files as you work, so you can quickly and easily retrieve versions of a document you may have accidentally deleted or overwritten.") - ??
I use rsync for backup. If you wanted to automate it, you could schedule it with cron... or crontab.. or something (I've never done that).
Speech recognition? I wonder what one would do with that. I'd love to see how accurate it is, because I've used similar software in the past.
Volume Shadow Copy? No equivalent that I know of. I also wonder what one would do with such a feature?
joflow
April 17th, 2006, 04:51 PM
I use rsync for backup. If you wanted to automate it, you could schedule it with cron... or crontab.. or something (I've never done that).
Speech recognition? I wonder what one would do with that. I'd love to see how accurate it is, because I've used similar software in the past.
Volume Shadow Copy? No equivalent that I know of. I also wonder what one would do with such a feature?
I think someone needs to write a frontend for rsync + cron. That would be an acceptable replacement for backup but what about a feature like System Restore?
I'd guess MS has speech recognition down packed or else they wouldn't release it (or atleast I'd hope they wouldn't release it). Very useful for those with disabilities, slow typers, bad typers, or just plain lazy folk.
It also could be as fast as CLI for general computing tasks but without the learning curve!
nalmeth
April 17th, 2006, 04:58 PM
Looks like we can match or surpass a lot of Vista features, but for heaven's sake, lets not get use sidebar on the desktop :???:
jstueve
April 17th, 2006, 05:05 PM
Would LVM snapshots == Volume Shadow Copy?
brodock
April 22nd, 2006, 02:00 PM
volume shadow copy look more like an Automatic CVS of all your files.
htinn
April 22nd, 2006, 02:03 PM
I think the main thing they are shooting for in Vista is overall consistency of the UI. This has already been answered by GNOME.
brodock
April 22nd, 2006, 02:13 PM
if they are likely to ask people for a 800mb (RAM) minimum, i think we have all the answers to make people choose dapper instead of vista :rolleyes:
iAlta
April 22nd, 2006, 04:43 PM
good point brodock! Vista has sky high requierments, I'm not upgrading MY PC to get Vista running, noway!
zerhacke
April 22nd, 2006, 04:52 PM
There's - meeh - something like Volume Shadow Copy if you use Gedit already. Gedit automatically backs up any file you save with a ~ tacked on to the end of the filename. Sure, it's not total revision history, but it's a start.
htinn
April 22nd, 2006, 09:35 PM
Actually, I rather like how Vista is shaping up. In another couple years, it might actually be worth getting. I personally hate Windows 95/98/Me/XP. They were always flaky as hell, but maybe M$ can get their act together for a change.
Then again, I don't know if I could take all that DRM crap. It's a real bugger of decision.
tikal26
April 22nd, 2006, 11:30 PM
Vista is introducing alot of new features and I'm pretty sure we can (or will very shortly) replicate most of those features in Ubuntu.
Aero glass - XGL/Compiz. Compiz doesn't seem to be as advanced right now but at its current rate of development could very well surpass Vista before its even released.
Integrated desktop search - seems to be covered pretty well by Beagle especially with nautilus now being able to display beagle search results.
Virtual Folders - A feature of Beagle/Nautilus integration according to arstechia "GNOME 2.14 also gets Nautilus search integration with optional Beagle support! Users can save searches as virtual search directories which can be added to the Nautilus bookmarks list."
Integrated Speech Recognition - ??
Sync Center (offers "unifying synchronization experience") - ??
Windows Backup - ??
Volume Shadow Copy ("Volume Shadow Copy automatically creates point-in-time copies of files as you work, so you can quickly and easily retrieve versions of a document you may have accidentally deleted or overwritten.") - ??
Virtual folder- I though that KDE already had them or maybe I don't understand the Vista's concept well enough. digikam uses Databased virual folders. As far as I understand when I open a cd in konqueror and I get a mp3 or ACC folder that really doesn't exists is a virtual folder.
windows backup- here is the equivalent for kde
http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=32984
it makes it easy and a daemon automatically performs it.
it looks like kubuntu is going to have it by default
http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=616&slide=18
Beagle is probably going to cover the integrated desktop search. Even KDE is starting to use it Kerry , a KDE front end for KDE, as for volume shadow copy I don't know of anything like it, but it would be nice to have
PatrickMay16
April 23rd, 2006, 12:14 AM
I think the main thing they are shooting for in Vista is overall consistency of the UI. This has already been answered by GNOME.
I don't think so. There are Qt, Motif, and older GTK apps around which stick out like a thorn in the GNOME environment. And for some people with more specific needs like needing a MIDI sequencer or something, trying to stick to GTK2 apps only is just not possible.
3rdalbum
April 23rd, 2006, 12:45 AM
Another Vista "feature": Caching programs to your USB Flash Drive.
Personally I don't want to see Linux adopt this... but I suppose the prelinking of OpenOffice.org and a other programs of your choice (to hard disk) would be similar enough.
Backwards Compatibility with Win XP: Wine? ;-)
Mammoth memory, processor, and graphics card requirements: Edgy Elk? ;-)
cprofitt
July 2nd, 2007, 08:30 AM
I use rsync for backup. If you wanted to automate it, you could schedule it with cron... or crontab.. or something (I've never done that).
Speech recognition? I wonder what one would do with that. I'd love to see how accurate it is, because I've used similar software in the past.
Volume Shadow Copy? No equivalent that I know of. I also wonder what one would do with such a feature?
Volume Shadow Copy allows for two scenarios:
1) Files that are constantly open (SQL database, etc) can be included in Shadow Volume Copy which aids in their being backed up.
2) Users can self-restore files that they deleted instead of calling the IT department to restore their excel spreadsheet from tape.
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