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troubleshot
October 12th, 2010, 01:10 AM
I have an Imac and as I was on the irc for mac I was told that:

It is *strongly* recommended that you do not run any linux natively on any Core-equipped Mac -- to do so will result in premature CPU death.

That statement scares me. So how have you guys managed with this?

srs5694
October 12th, 2010, 01:16 AM
This topic came up a couple of months ago. IIRC, nobody could post anything more authoritative than "my cousin's friend's brother works in an Apple Store, and he said he thought he heard somewhere that Linux might cause hardware problems."

In other words, it's FUD. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt)

troubleshot
October 12th, 2010, 01:21 AM
But what incentive do they have for using fud? They had what seemed to me the layman a very good cause:

Apple use a brain-dead custom power management chip that forces the host OS to micromanage everything; no linux distro has full SMC support, especially a complete absence of Vcore control. The result is that the CPU is left in a permanently over-volted state. The newer the Core processor, the faster it will succumb to 'overclocker's cancer.'

Do not get me wrong. I am not here for fud, I love linux and that is why this worries me.

david_edmundson
October 12th, 2010, 02:02 AM
Maybe not FUD, but second-guessing and chinese whispers could well be at play here.

I've been using Linux exclusively on my macbook for 3+ years with no trouble at all (with the processor).

My processor spends most of it's time with the clock underclocked down to 1Ghz, (it boosts when needed). I wouldn't be surprised if this doesn't adjust voltage too.

Thanks to tickless idle in Linux, the processor spends most it's time in C4 state - effectively powered off so a higher Vcore makes no difference.

I would like to see a real source on this. If you have any links/evidence please post it. Personally I find it unlikely that in the absence of an OS to manage it, the bios boosts itself past anything unsafe.


My Evidence:
Cpu voltage is controlled via EIST - this is fully supported by Linux.
Source: http://www.lesswatts.org/projects/processor-power/faq.php

troubleshot
October 12th, 2010, 02:13 AM
I do not have any links or evidence and that is the reason I came here. I wanted to bounce this off you guys to see if you thought there was enough credibility to warrant concern.

tgalati4
October 12th, 2010, 03:01 AM
Try a used Thinkpad--runs linux well and it's as ugly as sin.

jamesey
October 12th, 2010, 07:06 AM
ive been exclusively running ubuntu on my imac that I bought in march 2009. there's nothing wrong with it.

tpievila
October 12th, 2010, 07:55 AM
Please google first. One of the first hits was this thread: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=748111#p748111