Ubuntu - Universal Speed?

[reialist]

I installed Ubuntu 10.04 Via Wubi, its running slower than my windows 7 partition which is full of movies, photo's, games & applications.

Which isn't very good seeing as Ubuntu is a clean installation, so where is this mythical performance & support (Radeon X1600 doesnt work) everyone else gets apart from me?

The only reason I could see Ubuntu running faster than windows is if you have a slow computer, Ubuntu is a bare bones operating system with UN-productive & ugly app's that you have to code to install rather than the universally used double click to install.

Open source basically means coded by the community correct me if I'm wrong, since when has that been a good thing? for a community that prides there self on security you put a lot of trust into other people that could easily code something into your forever updating kernel?

There are a lot of windows virus's but that's because loads of people use windows if Ubuntu widely used Ubuntu WOULD have the same problem, but let’s be serious only people that click "Free iPad and iPhone" links get virus's now days & even my grandma isn't that dumb.

What Ubuntu needs to do to be successful


Get rid of KDE & GNOME and make their own UI, because their ugly, slowish & also to standardise.
Re-write synaptic package manager because it’s a piece of **** & none of the packages are called the same thing as the app they contain.
Make Ubuntu its own operating system instead of just another branch on Linux (e.g make it work different to other distributions)


I'm not dissing Ubuntu I just want to see if other people agree or if I'm the only person that see's these problems?

Please Comment,

[philinux]

Moved to Testimonials & Experience.

Did you defrag windows a couple of time first. Wubi is supposed to run the same as a regular install but I doubt it.

ATI problem. Blame ATI. Although they are improving support for newer cards.

[dino99]

wubi= ubuntu inside a windoz file :lolflag:

better to make a real install

prepare your hdd first:

mini howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9216264&postcount=14

[sydbat]

I'm not dissing UbuntuActually, you are. But you are entitled to your opinion.

Also, WUBI is the worst idea ever. Because it relies on Windows and the Windows file system to run in its virtual drive, you never get the full Linux or Ubuntu experience. If you want to find out how Ubuntu really runs on your computer, create a separate partition and install Ubuntu there. Then you will see the actual difference.

[Jazzy_Jeff]

It is obvious you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to Linux and open source for that matter. Stay with Windows, it was made for people like you..:popcorn:

[snowpine]

If you are serious about becoming an Ubuntu user:

1. Understand that nobody promised "Ubuntu is faster than Windows." Ubuntu is a modern, full-featured oeprating system, designed for fast hardware. (If speed is your #1 goal, try a different Linux like Puppy or SliTaz.)
2. Do a full install of Ubuntu on its own partition (WUBI is slower).
3. Install the correct graphics drivers for your card (#1 cause of "my system seems kind of sluggish" complaints).
4. Lose the attitude. ;) Everyone here is just an ordinary volunteer everyday computer user like yourself.

[MarcusW]

What Ubuntu needs to do to be successful


Get rid of KDE & GNOME and make their own UI, because their ugly, slowish & also to standardise.
Re-write synaptic package manager because it’s a piece of **** & none of the packages are called the same thing as the app they contain.
Make Ubuntu its own operating system instead of just another branch on Linux (e.g make it work different to other distributions)



This kind of attitude annoys me so much. You've tried Ubuntu ONCE and you *KNOW* what Ubuntu needs to be successful? Those reasons are really weird, there are so many things that should get more attention from the developers.

PS. Try the Ubuntu software center instead if you want entire programs, it's right there!

[Macskeeball]

I installed Ubuntu 10.04 Via Wubi, its running slower than my windows 7 partition which is full of movies, photo's, games & applications.

Which isn't very good seeing as Ubuntu is a clean installation, so where is this mythical performance & support (Radeon X1600 doesnt work) everyone else gets apart from me?
As others have said, Wubi might be the issue here. Also, have you tried whatever proprietary driver that may exist for your card? Do that by choosing System -> Administration -> Hardware drivers.


The only reason I could see Ubuntu running faster than windows is if you have a slow computer, Ubuntu is a bare bones operating system with UN-productive & ugly app's that you have to code to install rather than the universally used double click to install.
For installing software, choose Applications -> Ubuntu Software Center and you'll get a smartphone app store like experience for your computer. It's actually easier than scouring the web to find apps, and you don't have to micromanage updates. While you're in the software center, check out the featured apps. As for the themes, Ubuntu is very customizable. It just a matter of finding themes created by Linux people who actually have an eye for design. They are out there. For instance, shiki-colors.


Open source basically means coded by the community correct me if I'm wrong, since when has that been a good thing? for a community that prides there self on security you put a lot of trust into other people that could easily code something into your forever updating kernel?
No, open source just means the original source code is available. Many developers get paid to work on open source software. For example, Mozilla (Firefox & Thunderbird), Google, Yahoo, and even Apple (Webkit, CUPS, Darwin), Canonical, Red Hat, the list goes on. Security through obscurity doesn't work. Better to have more eyes on the code so that vulnerabilities can be fixed sooner. On a related note, Wikipedia has been shown in studies to actually compare favorably against the Encyclopedia Britannica. Yes, people can mess it up but people can also fix it.

PS- There's a freely downloadable book on Ubuntu called the Ubuntu Pocket Guide (http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/), with a printed version available for purchase if you so desire.

[marshmallow1304]

Open source basically means coded by the community correct me if I'm wrong, since when has that been a good thing?




Get rid of KDE & GNOME and make their own UI, because their ugly, slowish & also to standardise.
Re-write synaptic package manager because it’s a piece of **** & none of the packages are called the same thing as the app they contain.
Make Ubuntu its own operating system instead of just another branch on Linux (e.g make it work different to other distributions)



You'll need to either take the time to learn how Ubuntu and GNU/Linux work, or give up now and stick with Windows. Charging ahead with these misconceptions and attitudes will not be a fruitful endeavor.

Start here: http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm

[3rdalbum]

I installed Ubuntu 10.04 Via Wubi, its running slower than my windows 7 partition which is full of movies, photo's, games & applications.

Try installing Windows 7 into a file on a Linux partition and see how fast it runs.


so where is this mythical performance & support (Radeon X1600 doesnt work) everyone else gets apart from me?

Radeon X1600 should work, it is supported by the default 'ati' driver. How are you using your computer with a non-functioning graphics card?!


...that you have to code to install rather than the universally used double click to install.

The Windows platform is the only one that uses binary installers, so it's hardly "universally-used" to "double-click to install". You don't have to "code to install" on Ubuntu either, as you've mentioned later with Synaptic.


Open source basically means coded by the community correct me if I'm wrong, since when has that been a good thing? for a community that prides there self on security you put a lot of trust into other people that could easily code something into your forever updating kernel?

You're taking a simplistic view. No changes get into the kernel's source code without going through a dozen different people. Ubuntu is a meritocracy - you have to prove yourself to be worthy before you can put your hands on any Ubuntu packages.

On the other hand, anyone who makes a closed-source program can put anything into your Windows kernel when you "double-click to install" it.


There are a lot of windows virus's but that's because loads of people use windows if Ubuntu widely used Ubuntu WOULD have the same problem

No, it wouldn't. We have something called "security design". Programs and the system itself are designed so that they don't open avenues of attack; there's separation between users and processes.



Re-write synaptic package manager because it’s a piece of **** & none of the packages are called the same thing as the app they contain.

Untrue, and that's not anything to do with the package manager anyway. I wouldn't be so quick to use strong language to describe someone else's programming efforts that you clearly don't understand.


Make Ubuntu its own operating system instead of just another branch on Linux (e.g make it work different to other distributions)


The point being... ?


I'm not dissing Ubuntu I just want to see if other people agree or if I'm the only person that see's these problems?

I think you're trolling, but I'm replying anyway on the off-chance that you're serious.

[Ad@m]

Your general understanding if Linux is very poor. Whilst it will take time if you are willing to learn, here is something that may help with your first steps.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux