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Spook50
June 4th, 2010, 04:34 AM
Quicky here: is there a legit (read: legal) way of getting the Fraunhofer MP3 codec in Ubuntu? Any commercial or freeware compressors that use it, or maybe even a standalone codec installer (like Radium for Windows, though IIRC that one's not exactly legal)?

If not, is there perhaps a better codec for compressing MP3s? I've used Fraunhofer at 256Kbps CBR for years and never had a problem. Always sounded outstanding on my iPod (and really shined when I invested in a good pair of canal phones), but if there's something out there that might be better, I'm wiling to give it a shot.

babarosa
June 4th, 2010, 07:49 AM
Hi,

the open source equivalent to mp3 is ogg, it is also a compression algorithmus with quality loss. The results of an ogg-encoding are at least equal or better to mp3.

A free open source lossless codec is FLAC.

Asunder for example is an application which provides cd ripping with ogg and FLAC support. You'll find the latest version here

Karmic:
https://launchpad.net/~ferramroberto/+archive/linuxfreedomkarmic

Lucid:
https://launchpad.net/~ferramroberto/+archive/linuxfreedomlucid

pickarooney
June 4th, 2010, 08:43 AM
What percentage of hardware music playback devices suport OGG format? I've personally never seen one.

Rhubarb
June 4th, 2010, 09:01 AM
What percentage of hardware music playback devices suport OGG format? I've personally never seen one.

Many ipods can play ogg vorbis / flac with the rockbox firmware:
http://www.rockbox.org/

Sandisk make some:
http://www.sandisk.com/products/sansa-music-and-video-players

So do Archos:
http://www.archos.com/

Also iriver:
http://www.iriver.com

And Cowon:
http://www.cowonglobal.com/

And some Creative players:
http://au.creative.com/products/feature.asp?category=213&

As well as some Philips players:
http://www.consumer.philips.com/c/mp3-and-mp4-players/25476/cat/au/

I believe Samsung used to make flash-based music players that supported ogg vorbis and / or flac as well - but Samsung have ceased making music players now.

If you want a legitimate mp3 codec, see here:
http://shop.canonical.com/index.php?cPath=19

Otherwise, if you just want mp3 for free, grab lame from the repositories:

sudo aptitude install lame

But really, if you can, just use ogg vorbis for portable mp3 players - it has much better audio quality than mp3, or just use flac if space isn't an issue (flac is lossless audio compression).

Spook50
June 4th, 2010, 04:22 PM
Hi,

the open source equivalent to mp3 is ogg, it is also a compression algorithmus with quality loss. The results of an ogg-encoding are at least equal or better to mp3.

A free open source lossless codec is FLAC.

Asunder for example is an application which provides cd ripping with ogg and FLAC support. You'll find the latest version here

Karmic:
https://launchpad.net/~ferramroberto/+archive/linuxfreedomkarmic

Lucid:
https://launchpad.net/~ferramroberto/+archive/linuxfreedomlucid


I've read a bit about FLAC and played a bit with OGG, but each time I end up coming back to MP3. I have an archive of 4000+ MP3s and in addition to the smaller filesize, I can't even hear any faults in the audio on the MP3s I've done. That, plus I'm so used to the ID3 tagging, I'd like to stick with that if possible.

iconoclast hero
April 18th, 2011, 05:46 PM
Can I just take the encoder that I used in Windows that I purchased a license to and simply drop it somewhere to use that? I read all the arguments about LAME vs. the Fraunhoffer IIS encoder and the advantage of ogg. I don't know if my creative zen can play ogg or not, but nothing I have tried can beat Fraunhoffer on the size of low qualitycompression. When I rip an audio book, I don't care if the sound is crappy, I'm concerned about the size of it.

I do use LAME for music.

Chronon
April 19th, 2011, 08:47 PM
If you're transcoding audio books try the Speex codec instead.

iconoclast hero
April 19th, 2011, 09:48 PM
If you're transcoding audio books try the Speex codec instead.

Thanks, I'll give it a whirl, it looks like the vision m supports ogg. The only problem I have had is that no one else I know knows what an .ogg file is. Come to think of it they probably don't know what AAC, M4P, M4U are either. As long as I get the same quality for the same price in size, I'm happy. I think last time I tried, I encoded with ogg/vorbis and it was not even close.