WrinkledCheese
April 29th, 2010, 05:30 PM
Hey everyone,
I apologize in advance for the long post.
If I Google for 10.04 I can get the torrent or the ISO but there is no download section on ubuntustudio.org. I was wondering if this is due to stability problems.
Previously I've been using Slackware 64 for my video production, if you want to call my tinkering production. I had it to the point where it was awesome but I wanted to see if there was something more specific to multimedia production to make my life easier. So I downloaded the x86 and the AMD 64 ISOs for 9.10 and installed the x86 version on my secondary system so that if it didn't come with Cinelerra and couldn't get Cinelerra installed I would keep using Slackware 64.
Here is a list of issues I have with UbuntuStudio:
H264 not available by default, from my searches in the repository. libx264 should be suitable for this since it's GPL. Maybe it's because H264 isn't going to be royalty free beyond 2015. I hope Google ends up releasing VP8 to the open source community so that it can be the new standard for HTML 5s, and the industry as a whole, video tag. Only problem I see with this is the hardware acceleration already put into place by companies like nVidia.
Kino sucks. This is probably because I don't have libx264 installed, but I wanted to get a system that didn't require command line compiling of libraries for my video production. H264 is quickly becoming the standard with pretty much EVERY video camera coming out writing to at least this spec and possible others. My camera actually uses H264 encoding with the AVI or MOV containers unless it's in standard definition mode.
ffmpeg require compile from command line to get it to work with libx264, once you get that installed.
In summation, the only difference I find that Ububtu Studio has over Slackware is the use of Jack by default. Jack is available in extras for Slackware so I don't see this as being an issue. Slackware doesn't come with many encoders but has all the standard ones and has many decoders. Essentially I can get a Slackware themed system to be pretty darn close to Ubuntu Studio for multimedia production if I install the base system and then install my extras after the installation is complete, which is pretty much what I have to do with UbuntuStudio.
I don't mean to slam Ubuntu or UbuntuStudio but I thought that a multimedia Linux distribution would bring together the best of both worlds. Having a niche distribution of multimedia production while also having the benefit of choice, out of the box, that I have become accustomed to with Linux and it's plethora of open source projects. Now I know that Ubuntu seems to be trying to get Cinelerra into it's repos while trying to keep it legal and licensed, but this seems to be ongoing for quite some time.
Maybe I should create a new thread. On that note, maybe I should just stop complaining and go back to Slackware. I would still appreciate it if someone addressed my concerns and questions.
Also, since I wasn't able to find the information I wanted in a few hours over the span of a few days, if someone could point me in a direction of information that gives me the multimedia benefits over standard/average Linux distributions that would also be much appreciated.
I haven't read much documentation aside from release notes and the rare wiki page and Google result, but I have spent about a month playing with UbuntuStudio. Unfortunately, I was initially amazed with Ubuntu Studio so I reformatted my 64bit system after backing up all of my media and files. Either way I have to build a system from scratch.
If it comes down to it I will be creating exact steps I follow to get both systems to the point where their multimedia capacity is pretty much the same and where I like it. Also, I hope people with a lot more information on the subject can point out the differences.
I'm all for trying to get UbuntuStudio where I want it to be but if it's going to be more of a process/hassle than Slackware then why does it have the name Ubuntu at all? <- Sarcastic Joke
P.S. Sorry for the sarcasm...not ;) LMFAO
I apologize in advance for the long post.
If I Google for 10.04 I can get the torrent or the ISO but there is no download section on ubuntustudio.org. I was wondering if this is due to stability problems.
Previously I've been using Slackware 64 for my video production, if you want to call my tinkering production. I had it to the point where it was awesome but I wanted to see if there was something more specific to multimedia production to make my life easier. So I downloaded the x86 and the AMD 64 ISOs for 9.10 and installed the x86 version on my secondary system so that if it didn't come with Cinelerra and couldn't get Cinelerra installed I would keep using Slackware 64.
Here is a list of issues I have with UbuntuStudio:
H264 not available by default, from my searches in the repository. libx264 should be suitable for this since it's GPL. Maybe it's because H264 isn't going to be royalty free beyond 2015. I hope Google ends up releasing VP8 to the open source community so that it can be the new standard for HTML 5s, and the industry as a whole, video tag. Only problem I see with this is the hardware acceleration already put into place by companies like nVidia.
Kino sucks. This is probably because I don't have libx264 installed, but I wanted to get a system that didn't require command line compiling of libraries for my video production. H264 is quickly becoming the standard with pretty much EVERY video camera coming out writing to at least this spec and possible others. My camera actually uses H264 encoding with the AVI or MOV containers unless it's in standard definition mode.
ffmpeg require compile from command line to get it to work with libx264, once you get that installed.
In summation, the only difference I find that Ububtu Studio has over Slackware is the use of Jack by default. Jack is available in extras for Slackware so I don't see this as being an issue. Slackware doesn't come with many encoders but has all the standard ones and has many decoders. Essentially I can get a Slackware themed system to be pretty darn close to Ubuntu Studio for multimedia production if I install the base system and then install my extras after the installation is complete, which is pretty much what I have to do with UbuntuStudio.
I don't mean to slam Ubuntu or UbuntuStudio but I thought that a multimedia Linux distribution would bring together the best of both worlds. Having a niche distribution of multimedia production while also having the benefit of choice, out of the box, that I have become accustomed to with Linux and it's plethora of open source projects. Now I know that Ubuntu seems to be trying to get Cinelerra into it's repos while trying to keep it legal and licensed, but this seems to be ongoing for quite some time.
Maybe I should create a new thread. On that note, maybe I should just stop complaining and go back to Slackware. I would still appreciate it if someone addressed my concerns and questions.
Also, since I wasn't able to find the information I wanted in a few hours over the span of a few days, if someone could point me in a direction of information that gives me the multimedia benefits over standard/average Linux distributions that would also be much appreciated.
I haven't read much documentation aside from release notes and the rare wiki page and Google result, but I have spent about a month playing with UbuntuStudio. Unfortunately, I was initially amazed with Ubuntu Studio so I reformatted my 64bit system after backing up all of my media and files. Either way I have to build a system from scratch.
If it comes down to it I will be creating exact steps I follow to get both systems to the point where their multimedia capacity is pretty much the same and where I like it. Also, I hope people with a lot more information on the subject can point out the differences.
I'm all for trying to get UbuntuStudio where I want it to be but if it's going to be more of a process/hassle than Slackware then why does it have the name Ubuntu at all? <- Sarcastic Joke
P.S. Sorry for the sarcasm...not ;) LMFAO