OpenHardware

[jan]

Hi,

I just would like to announce, that there has been a community machine launched at http://www.universe-pending.org. Feel free to log in and start the services you've always dreamed of.

Jan

[DJ_Max]

For the people who're too lazy to read, or even click on the link for that matter, what is its purpose?

[jan]

Well,

for theese folks there might be running services on the "universal" machine once that might help them get "un-lazy" :).

Jan

[az]

You have a typo on your page:
"We are concerned about the global secirity."

There may be others.


Again, what is this for?

[Jad]

What is who and why ?

[panickedthumb]

OK I read the site, and sure, it's late, but I still have no clue what this site's objective is. "To make the internet free and open" is a very open-ended objective.

[Randabis]

Yeah the author should actually explain wtf this is.

[Buffalo Soldier]

I thought I was the only one who didn't understand that website :)

[KiwiNZ]

Maybe I had a hard day at work or the fact that its 30 degrees cel outside , or maybe I need more coffee but what in the name of Donald Duck is this page all about ??????http://www.ubuntuforums.org/images/smilies/icon_confused.gifhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/images/smilies/icon_confused.gifhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif

[Yukonjack]

WTF every time I check one of your post jan it's something nobody gets or a big arguments about things you just don't understand.
The least you could do is explain in details what this site is all about instead of just posting a link, it sure would be nice.

[Randabis]

WTF every time I check one of your post jan it's something nobody gets or a big arguments about things you just don't understand.
The least you could do is explain in details what this site is all about instead of just posting a link, it sure would be nice.
especially when the link doesn't even explain what it is. :p

[jan]

Well,

it seems to me like i need to repeat it ones more:

"Feel free to log in and start the services you've always dreamed of."

Enough? Sorry guys I dont really have a time for exhaustihg explanation now, ill try to deliver it later!

Jan

[Yukonjack]

Well,
it seems to me like i need to repeat it ones more:
"Feel free to log in and start the services you've always dreamed of."
Enough? Sorry guys I dont really have a time for exhaustihg explanation now, ill try to deliver it later!
Jan

I'm looking forward to that detail explanation. When you deal with an International crowd explanation should always be included with something nobody seen or know nothing about. It is just common sence. Makes everybody happy instead of total frustration.

[poofyhairguy]

Universal wiki


We want to enable anyone being able to help with any activity we run. Today money is pretty much involved everywhere and people need income to live. Because of this, universe will go public as soon as it will be ready for it letting anyone to live form it's yeld.

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Main goals:

- create global community

- start products and services

- create standards


Secondary goals:

- throw out own linux distro

- create universal HW & SW platform

- bring up free content

- - art


ToDo's:


SOFTWARE

- server services wishlist:

samba

CMS (Drupal?)

php5

phpwiki

python

postgreSQL

gallery

ftp server

phpbb?

- learn software RAID

- development

learn Python


HARDWARE

- bigger HDD (cca 200GB)

- DVD-RW for backups


We are waiting for someone helping us to go public or going public for us under the name called “universe”.

Found this with some digging. Is still very confusing. I am a little sad, I saw the word Universe and I thought "Cool, A group to work on Ubuntu's Universe."

I can't wait for that. In my free time I try to learn about plain Debian as much as I can so maybe oneday I can help work on Ubuntu's Universe.

[jan]

Found this with some digging. Is still very confusing. I am a little sad, I saw the word Universe and I thought "Cool, A group to work on Ubuntu's Universe."

I can't wait for that. In my free time I try to learn about plain Debian as much as I can so maybe oneday I can help work on Ubuntu's Universe.
Hey folks,

its all to come. BUT, i am just ONE PERSON currently, have nobody helping me, so everything takes a while, ok?

Ubuntu Universe is a great idea. Do you want to help?

Jan

[Randabis]

Hey folks,

its all to come. BUT, i am just ONE PERSON currently, have nobody helping me, so everything takes a while, ok?

Ubuntu Universe is a great idea. Do you want to help?

Jan
He means Ubuntu's universe repository, Not a ubuntu universe such as what you are referring to.

[panickedthumb]

I THINK I get the gist of the site, I think it was the subject of this thread that was throwing me off. Nothing on the site suggests anything about Open Hardware, which I would think would mean modems, NICs, video adapters, etc, that have open specs so anyone can write high quality drivers for them.

But yes, I'm really looking forward to the explanation, because it looks interesting, but I don't know where it's going and what it's for yet.

[Yukonjack]

Ok Jan I went back to your site and in short this is what I figured out.

Purpose= to build this universal platform so everyone can use this platform/os, build software for this platform and build hardware for it. A mighty big apple to chew.

It seem to me from what I made out of this site you are looking for investers with cold hard cash to get of the ground.

Now joining this universe and working hard for free till or if this thing ever takes off, once in the main stream and making money one would get it share and be part of this universe making money at it.

Some of the data is still unclear to me due to lack of a buiseness
plan to read or other information that might get the attention of programmers etc...etc...

Incentive = Again didn't see much for me to join the band wagon and start programming. You get burn a few time I make sure I get all the facts before moving forward.

Jan I have been involved in a few big projects in my days most were good but a few leaves a bad taste in your mouth for you to remember to be careful.

All in all it might be a good idea but now a days you also need lots of money to make a great idea come true.

Now feel free to set me straight if what I said is not in the ballpark.

PS I tried to login using ssh to check around but I get the apache error I followed the instruction posted on your site.

[jan]

Rick & everyone,

I very appreciate your straight-forward action. The idea of "universe" is not be very clear at the first look. Most of the things you stated are correct or not very far. What you see on the universe-pending.org web took me about an hour to pud down in OpenOffice (since its the only WYSIWYG html editor I have on my ubuntu). There is a wonderful CMS to come soon I hope (deciding on Drupal).

Actually, I am not that alone doing it, two friends are slowly joining me. Tony is about to administer the Dell machine and Radim wants to do some coding on things he has in his head (lately a dictionary like Wikitionary, but @ a little lower level). He does php so far and is moving to Pyghton slowly. We've discussed the universe idea among ourselves for a couple weeks.

We are going to incorporate soon probobly, making the whole thing real in the terms of legal existence. What I think is there is a great potential in this kind of approaching things. Give out a medium and let things work.

At least, we (or me to be exact) lacked an open machine like this, so we wanna do it ourselves. And, with 99% of the processor time unused, why not to give others a chance to use it?

To answer your statements:
> Purpose= to build this universal platform so everyone can use this platform/os, build software for this platform and build hardware for it. A mighty big apple to chew.

Firstly, we dont wanna force anything. The world is merging anyway, once there will pretty much be one open source OS that will be able to deal with almost all the hardware.

Secondly, we do not mean this primarily as a platform, but as a philosophy of doing things and as a nice, diverse and cooperating community.

> It seem to me from what I made out of this site you are looking for investers with cold hard cash to get of the ground.

Again, it not about money and investing that much. In general, I see people working on a great projects in their free time and doing really god. We would like to let them work on things they like and still be able to survive in todays world - the idea is to go public and gain a constant, maybe not a super fast, but a growth that will allow individuals to buy stocks and ever live from the growth. This is pretty much about trust, we know it and we wanna deal with this.

> Now joining this universe and working hard for free till or if this thing ever takes off, once in the main stream and making money one would get it share and be part of this universe making money at it.

Pretty much true but without the neccessity to work hard. Working wisely mihgt be the clue.

> Incentive...

Interfering in any kind of way is completely your decision :). Might take some time till the environment will be ready for a smarter work (i mean a nice site, content etc.)

> Jan I have been involved in a few big projects in my days most were good but a few leaves a bad taste in your mouth for you to remember to be careful.

I was involved at few projects as well. We will be careful, we are investing just our time and few 100s bucks so far... We are happy about every feedback and advice.

> All in all it might be a good idea but now a days you also need lots of money to make a great idea come true.

I dont think we need a lot of money.

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I am surprised ssh didn't work for you. I'd the College firewall opened for port 22 on our IP. I'll have a friend try it for me, cant judge if its working or not now...

Looking forward to continuing discussing, if you want.

Take care tiil then,
Jan

[Dylanby]

...I saw the word Universe and I thought "Cool, A group to work on Ubuntu's Universe."

Here (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTU) they are.

[Buffalo Soldier]

Here (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTU) they are.
I guess with http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTU the thing that Jan create is rather redundant.

Anyway, we shouldn't be too harsh/hard on Jan. He may have some problem communicating or making people understand him but at least his intention was good :) ... I think.

[jan]

The last sentence - nicely said! Thx.

Jan

[jan]

I had a friend loging into "universe" via ssh over from Japan and he said he did fine...

Did you say you got an "apache" msg or something? Apache is a web server and is another public service runnign on the machine besides ssh...

Tell me if you have troubles again, Ill try to go into it.

Jan

[Yukonjack]

I had a friend loging into "universe" via ssh over from Japan and he said he did fine...
Did you say you got an "apache" msg or something? Apache is a web server and is another public service runnign on the machine besides ssh...
Tell me if you have troubles again, Ill try to go into it.
Jan

Hi Jan
Yes I had an apache error, but I tried it later and works fine now.
Thanks for the replied to my post now I see the light :wink:
I bookmark the site and will visit once in while and see what happens, who knows might be a fun adventure.

[jan]

Ok. I hope to make things move soon!

Take care,
Jan