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SpookyKristian
April 21st, 2010, 06:14 PM
formerly an microsoft expression web 2.0 user for building websites.

Ive been using ubuntu now for a good month, and am familiar with its working now - one of my sites in due for an overhaul what software would you guys recommend if i were to do it through ubuntu?

thanks in advance

Dragonbite
April 21st, 2010, 06:59 PM
Are you looking for WYSIWYG? What languages do you use; HTML/CSS? Javascript? PHP? Ajax? ASP.NET?

zander1013
April 21st, 2010, 07:06 PM
i like wordpress. http://wordpress.org

SpookyKristian
April 21st, 2010, 07:41 PM
WYSIWYG style is from where i started learning really, progressing from the likes of frontpage, to dreamweaver then expression web. tinkering with code and script also.
familiar with working with HTML/CSS and a touch of java.

wordpress you say... shall take a peeky. but off my head isnt wordpress mainly a blogging software?

kellemes
April 21st, 2010, 07:47 PM
You could go for a cms package like Drupal or Joomla (or one of the many others).. and even Wordpress may be used as a general purpose system to base a site on since it's extremely extendable.
Anyway.. it largely depends on your wishes.. what kind of site are you building? Languages? Experience? Preferences?

For editing you may try Bluefish (http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/) or Geany (http://www.geany.org/Main/HomePage) (my personal favorite).

MadCookie
April 21st, 2010, 07:48 PM
If you want to write or modify code, you should try "gedit" also known as "text editor". It is pretty much the same as Notepad++ if you change a few preferences.

Dragonbite
April 21st, 2010, 08:10 PM
For HTML/CSS/Javascript & PHP I'm using NetBeans. NetBeans (http://www.netbeans.org), though, is primarily (or originally) a Java IDE.

With NetBeans I've included the PHP and Database plugins. This gives me the closest feel to Visual Studio I've found so far.

SpookyKristian
April 21st, 2010, 08:24 PM
what kind of site...
as a researcher of the strange and wonderful in our world. history, myths, urban legends, claims of paranormal occurrences.
since i lost my PC and relevant data of website, one of the websites
www.paranormalnetwork.co.uk has been a little neglected

Somewhere comfortable to upload new news, information, articles, features, galleries, events, in a clear, clean and professional style. I've been recommended Joomla before,
Wordpress seems to have a lot of what i'm looking for.

Shall experiment

Really appreciate the recommendations and ideas. and big thumbs up all round :smile:

Dragonbite
April 21st, 2010, 08:59 PM
what kind of site...
as a researcher of the strange and wonderful in our world. history, myths, urban legends, claims of paranormal occurrences.
since i lost my PC and relevant data of website, one of the websites
www.paranormalnetwork.co.uk has been a little neglected

Somewhere comfortable to upload new news, information, articles, features, galleries, events, in a clear, clean and professional style. I've been recommended Joomla before,
Wordpress seems to have a lot of what i'm looking for.

Shall experiment

Really appreciate the recommendations and ideas. and big thumbs up all round :smile:

Joomla (http://www.joomla.org/), Wordpress (http://wordpress.org/)and Drupal (http://drupal.org/)are the most often suggested Content Management Systems I run across.

If you are going to be hosting it on an Ubuntu Server there's the Ubuntu Drupal Community Documentation (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Drupal) which may be helpful for the administrative tasks.

Zerocool Djx
April 21st, 2010, 09:13 PM
you can run Dreamweaver in Wine, I dunno if the FTP will work tho. you could always use filezilla to upload after. I'm in the same boat..

Dragonbite
April 21st, 2010, 11:46 PM
you can run Dreamweaver in Wine, I dunno if the FTP will work tho. you could always use filezilla to upload after. I'm in the same boat..

I don't know, but I think Quanta Plus (KDE app) is the closest to Dreamweaver (which isn't saying much).

Kompozer showed promise but I don't know if anybody is still developing it or not.

madjr
April 22nd, 2010, 12:12 AM
Joomla (http://www.joomla.org/), Wordpress (http://wordpress.org/)and Drupal (http://drupal.org/)are the most often suggested Content Management Systems I run across.

If you are going to be hosting it on an Ubuntu Server there's the Ubuntu Drupal Community Documentation (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Drupal) which may be helpful for the administrative tasks.

+1 for drupal



what kind of site...
as a researcher of the strange and wonderful in our world. history, myths, urban legends, claims of paranormal occurrences.
since i lost my PC and relevant data of website, one of the websites
www.paranormalnetwork.co.uk has been a little neglected

Somewhere comfortable to upload new news, information, articles, features, galleries, events, in a clear, clean and professional style. I've been recommended Joomla before,
Wordpress seems to have a lot of what i'm looking for.

Shall experiment

Really appreciate the recommendations and ideas. and big thumbs up all round :smile:

looking at your site it looks really dated, no one uses frontpage or the other one you mentioned much, specially if you want a modern and dynamic website, that's easy to update online.

you should really move it to either drupal, wordpress or joomla (free, secure, open source content management systems)

-wordpress is probably the easiest to get started.
-drupal is much more powerful and has almost unlimited free plugins, but takes a little longer to learn (worthed it in my opinion)
-joomla is similar to drupal, but lots of plugins are not free

aysiu
April 22nd, 2010, 12:56 AM
+1 for Wordpress.

It can definitely be Somewhere comfortable to upload new news, information, articles, features, galleries, events, in a clear, clean and professional style.

To make the most of it, you will have to learn some CSS, though.

Dragonbite
April 22nd, 2010, 05:26 AM
I used FrontPage back in the day. Primarily I used it for WYSIWYG and then flip it over and do my coding by hand.

In my past few classes I've had a chance to fool around with Dreamweaver and Expression. Both are pretty nice.

I've also worked with Visual Studio but it doesn't do much for PHP (I haven't tried the plug-in yet though).

I love using the split screen, where I can modify the CSS page in one place and see the "effects" even before I've saved it!

purgatori
April 22nd, 2010, 05:34 AM
Vim :P

Seriously though, the web is full of junk nowadays with all the ajax, flash, java, and web 2.0 nonsense -- good clean HTML, unless you absolutely need to use something else, is the way to go, imo, and all you need for that is a text editor.

Dragonbite
April 22nd, 2010, 01:40 PM
Vim :P

Seriously though, the web is full of junk nowadays with all the ajax, flash, java, and web 2.0 nonsense -- good clean HTML, unless you absolutely need to use something else, is the way to go, imo, and all you need for that is a text editor.

After taking a couple CSS classes and a Javascript class my view of our intranet pages (ASP.NET) and designing pages has totally changed.

Especially after the CSS class, I am getting excited with thinking about what I can do to my wife's website. Now I just need to get time to mock them up!

MattBD
April 22nd, 2010, 03:09 PM
As a general rule of thumb I think a CMS of some kind is the best option for most websites - it makes it trivial to update it with new content. Even if you're more than capable of writing the HTML for it a CMS makes it a lot less grief.

mrgs
April 28th, 2010, 11:16 PM
Regardless if the HTML code is written by hand or by a CMS, take care that it is more or less clean HTML. If Google does not understand the code, there is less change that he will give you a good ranking.

If you can see the page with Lynx or another text browser, Google can too.

Edit: Just to make it clear, with 'Lynx' I mean the browser, I am not talking about Lucid Lynx.