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rboss
March 16th, 2006, 06:38 AM
Helle there,

as you may (or may not) have noticed, there are some cool linux/ubuntu-art things going on lately. A complete overhauled Human icon theme, the Tango icon theme, xgl with it's gorgeous eye candy and the new ubuntulook gtk theme. Whoa!

Especially the new Human theme has created some discussion, many people would have prefered a re-paletted Tango and dislike the idea of a hired, unknown artist to be responsible for the (as we all know) most important icon theme in the whole universe.

Even The Boss himself acknowledges that (DapperUbuntuIcons) (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUbuntuIcons) and created a list with icon theme priorities. The repaletted Tango, called Orange Tango, is only second to the "official" Human icon theme on that list. The Boss sugested that the community would take care of Orange Tango (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/OrangeTango).

Well, I'm the guy who hijacked Orange Tango (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/OrangeTango). I hope that we can create a high quality icon theme and, maybe, someday even replace the Human theme. Or at least support it, where the Human theme lacks.

I have started ubuntifying some of the icons, but progress is slow. Any help is needed. Maybe some of you are interested?

Lapo Calamandrei did a great job already, you can admire his work on the bottom of the DapperUbuntuIcon-Page in the wiki.


Good luck,
Raphael

darkmatter
March 16th, 2006, 09:52 AM
Nice to see this project continuing:)

I just signed up for the Tango Project, so this is a natural extension of that work. Looking forward to contributing as much as time allows for ;)

Just one little suggestion: The actions (arrows mostly) in tango are a little to green for use along side the ubuntu palette. I would recommend using those from the older releases (more of an olive color) in the orange tango set... they look incredible with the new color scheme :)

lapo
March 16th, 2006, 02:59 PM
I'm working on a theme I called OrangoTango, I did it to promote tango and not the theme itself so I didn't make it pubblic, but since I don't like to see wasted efforts here's the like to the package I have now (same build intruction as tango icon theme) http://xoomer.virgilio.it/bat/orango-tango/orango-tango-0.0.1.tar.bz2

I updated the wiki page you cited with a current status, if you want to contribute you can find me hanging on #tango (freenode) or by email at calamandrei at gmail

Ciao
Lapo

rboss
March 16th, 2006, 07:32 PM
Now, that's great. A very good starting point.

Thanks!

manicka
March 17th, 2006, 02:43 AM
but since I don't like to see wasted efforts here's the like to the package I have now (same build intruction as tango icon theme) http://xoomer.virgilio.it/bat/orango-tango/orango-tango-0.0.1.tar.bz2


These are very nice Lapo, thanks for sharing :)

fubarbundy
March 18th, 2006, 02:43 PM
I'm working on a theme I called OrangoTango, I did it to promote tango and not the theme itself so I didn't make it pubblic, but since I don't like to see wasted efforts here's the like to the package I have now (same build intruction as tango icon theme) http://xoomer.virgilio.it/bat/orango-tango/orango-tango-0.0.1.tar.bz2

I updated the wiki page you cited with a current status, if you want to contribute you can find me hanging on #tango (freenode) or by email at calamandrei at gmail

Ciao
Lapo
Thanks for publishing! Do you want to put the link to your archive on the wiki page maybe? I didn't do it myself in case you had a reason not to.

One comment about the icons - the folder icons are highly glossy - I realise that this probably comes from the Human icons on which they were based, but in accordance with the 'don't overgloss/don't make matte objects glossy' Tango guidelines, perhaps it might be worth making them slightly less glossy?

:)

lapo
March 23rd, 2006, 04:13 AM
Thanks for publishing! Do you want to put the link to your archive on the wiki page maybe? I didn't do it myself in case you had a reason not to.

One comment about the icons - the folder icons are highly glossy - I realise that this probably comes from the Human icons on which they were based, but in accordance with the 'don't overgloss/don't make matte objects glossy' Tango guidelines, perhaps it might be worth making them slightly less glossy?

:)

Yeas, I did the folder glossy to imitate as much as possible the Human one. I didn't put a link to the wiki page to 'cause as I said I didn't make this theme to promote the theme itself, btw feel free to add it.

fubarbundy
March 23rd, 2006, 11:31 AM
Yeas, I did the folder glossy to imitate as much as possible the Human one. I didn't put a link to the wiki page to 'cause as I said I didn't make this theme to promote the theme itself, btw feel free to add it.
Added.

Luke Psywalker
March 24th, 2006, 04:10 AM
Fantastic work so far Lapo! I almost want to donate to make you keep working on these, but alas I'm a poor student and you seem well motivated anyway.

One small note, shouldn't these icons be named Human-Tango. Because they are a redraw of the Human theme incorporating the Tango style guidelines. Either way they are very good.

Squalor
March 24th, 2006, 02:05 PM
I'd like to know something. If this is going to be the first fallback of the Human theme, why are you creating icons which are already in the Human theme? I mean, is it just created to be the fallback or as a theme of its own?

Anyway, I love it. :)

lapo
March 24th, 2006, 07:43 PM
I created these icons to show how could be possible to do branding and be tango style, that's why I "copied" all the revelant icons in new Human icon set. They eventually evolved in a theme, since seems like a bunch people likes them.

lapo
March 24th, 2006, 07:48 PM
Fantastic work so far Lapo! I almost want to donate to make you keep working on these, but alas I'm a poor student and you seem well motivated anyway.

One small note, shouldn't these icons be named Human-Tango. Because they are a redraw of the Human theme incorporating the Tango style guidelines. Either way they are very good.


Happy you like it, thank you but I don't really need any funding it's just my hobby :-)
As for the name, well, when I did those icons the name of the new dapper set was not known yet and it's not an official ubuntu project so even if I had knew it I think I'd probably called it something else. Orango Tango is the italian word for orangutan, which sound funny by itself, it recall tango project and you know ubuntu made human I made monkey :-)

fubarbundy
March 25th, 2006, 02:32 PM
Hi Lapo,

Your icons are looking great! One thing:

- your disk in the save/save as icons is different from your hard disk icon

:)

lapo
March 25th, 2006, 10:21 PM
Hi Lapo,

Your icons are looking great! One thing:

- your disk in the save/save as icons is different from your hard disk icon

:)

I think those icons with the tango hd are more clear, especially in 22x22 and 16x16

fubarbundy
March 26th, 2006, 09:48 PM
I think those icons with the tango hd are more clear, especially in 22x22 and 16x16
Yours or the original ones? I find your version a bit cleaner looking anyway.

On a separate note, the theme should have one name. Perhaps we should go with OrangoTango, since this seems to have more personality than "Orange Tango"?

rboss, if you're reading, does that sound good to you?

Peter Chabada
April 2nd, 2006, 03:52 PM
New Ubuntu Human theme has some problems:

Looks bad when scaled.
Some icons have bad perspective, e.g. disk, keyboard, computer, network...


First point can be solved by using svg icons, second using icons from OrangoTango, where are much better icons (in terms of perspective) for disks and keyboard... Keeping two diferent perspectives (view angles) looks unprofessional and should not get into final release of Dapper.
See 7922

In Ubuntu Human, but also in OrangoTango theme isn't good icon for trash. It looks like an empty battery (in small sizes). Please keep original basket from Tango theme (or use some new icon). It's not good for usability because not everyone has hawkeye. Lapo, can you fix it?
http://daniel.holba.ch/ubuntu/ic/usr/share/gnome-power-manager/battery-discharging-000.png http://daniel.holba.ch/ubuntu/ic/usr/share/icons/Human/24x24/places/gnome-fs-trash-empty.png

There is also very big link emblem. Often same as icon, so icon itself is hidden below link emblem. Can it be fixed too?
7926

bvc
April 2nd, 2006, 04:44 PM
use this
http://kwh.kernow-gb.com/~bvc/theme/devel/dapper/emblem-symbolic-link.svg
The original is not correct is all.

Why do new versions of these 3 themes get released with the same problems that are very simple to fix.

Also, all these themes need to stop using Fixed and use Scalable in the index.theme file, which will fix several issues as well.

rboss
April 3rd, 2006, 06:32 AM
Hello there,

I'm back from vacation!

To the naming; Orango Tango does really sound much better than Orange Tango, which is only a description. As Lapo wrote, orango is the italian word for orang utan. But it goes further; orang is the malaysian word for "human", so this is a perfect fit.

I tried to contact lapo ( but I guess you don't visit the forum too often and don't read PMs, Lapo ^^) to join forces in creating an orange tango theme. As a working ground I suggested using OrangoTango, since it is more complete.

Could you contact me, Lapo? I'd love to see some of the few icons I converted in OrangoTango.

Buffalo Soldier
April 3rd, 2006, 06:53 AM
To the naming; Orango Tango does really sound much better than Orange Tango, which is only a description. As Lapo wrote, orango is the italian word for orang utan. But it goes further; orang is the malaysian word for "human", so this is a perfect fit.
rboss,

That's true, orang = human/people and utan (hutan) = jungle.

fubarbundy
April 15th, 2006, 07:38 AM
Huh? Why is this now in Dapper Universe as Tangerine 0.4?

WorLord
April 18th, 2006, 11:08 AM
Actually, its now in Dapper universe as Tangerine 0.6, and it is INCOMPLETE - orangotango 0.4 looks better and contains more icons. The "folder is open" icon in tangerine is broken and blurry. Tangerine should start with all of OrangoTango's icons, and just add. They should merge.

***UPDATE***

I got in contact with the maintainer from Tangerine. There was a bug in the Makefile; this should all be fixed on next release! Woo!