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dragos240
April 4th, 2010, 04:19 PM
I have a netbook. It's a nice eee 900HD computer. It currently runs gentoo quite nicely, but on a small netbook with less power than my home computer, it's not very efficient. I want something simple, that still allows me to compile my own kernel, and gives the option to compile my own software as well as having a binary repo, for the sake of convenience. Something that also lets me install everything from scratch, no pre-installed stuff. Something that will let me dig into the roots of UNIX/Linux. I still plan on using gentoo linux on my main tower, but, my netbook needs something else. I tried debian, but it won't support the rtl8187se driver out of the box, and wireless is the only way of me getting sources out of the repo. What do you guys think.

MrNatewood
April 4th, 2010, 05:21 PM
To be that sounds like an exact description of Arch Linux

phibxr
April 4th, 2010, 05:28 PM
Arch sounds like a plan, yes.

You might want to check Zenwalk (http://www.zenwalk.org/) out too. I think you can get a pretty clean installation of it.

Otherwise, you might want to check out Linux From Scratch (http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/).

Bachstelze
April 4th, 2010, 05:30 PM
If you like Gentoo, you can use distcc to share the compiling work between your netbook and your desktop computer (or even make your desktop computer do all of it).

chris200x9
April 4th, 2010, 05:49 PM
I have a netbook. It's a nice eee 900HD computer. It currently runs gentoo quite nicely, but on a small netbook with less power than my home computer, it's not very efficient. I want something simple, that still allows me to compile my own kernel, and gives the option to compile my own software as well as having a binary repo, for the sake of convenience. Something that also lets me install everything from scratch, no pre-installed stuff. Something that will let me dig into the roots of UNIX/Linux. I still plan on using gentoo linux on my main tower, but, my netbook needs something else. I tried debian, but it won't support the rtl8187se driver out of the box, and wireless is the only way of me getting sources out of the repo. What do you guys think.

arch, btw didn't you come from arch to gentoo? Kinda a question you already knew the answer to IMHO.

Eisenwinter
April 4th, 2010, 05:55 PM
arch, btw didn't you come from arch to gentoo? Kinda a question you already knew the answer to IMHO.
Maybe he just didn't know about the ABS.

Bachstelze
April 4th, 2010, 06:23 PM
Maybe he just didn't know about the ABS.

Or maybe he *gasp* didn't like Arch?

RiceMonster
April 4th, 2010, 06:25 PM
Or maybe he *gasp* didn't like Arch?

Blasphemy!

chris200x9
April 4th, 2010, 06:27 PM
Or maybe he *gasp* didn't like Arch?

or maybe if he didn't like arch he should have mentioned it seeing as it would be the most logical choice, people are not suggesting arch to be a "fanboi".

edit: why not try freebsd? You have ports and pkg-add, plus you can learn more about UNIX by divirsifying :)

Pogeymanz
April 4th, 2010, 06:47 PM
Arch for the win.

I would also say FreeBSD would be good, but I can only imagine that hardware support for a netbook might be worse for BSD than Linux.

In Arch you can set the package manager to not update certain packages so that you can build it yourself. It will still alert you when there is a new version, it just wont install the binary for you.

kaldor
April 4th, 2010, 06:50 PM
You could try a *solaris distro. But they aren't really compilable, but true UNIX nonetheless.

Try Slackware.

Wolvix is based on Slackware and is very easy to install and set up. But it's still slackware; you're in total control.

dragos240
April 4th, 2010, 09:59 PM
You know. I really liked arch for a while. I know about the ABS and the AUR, but things kept breaking. It however did support my hardware quite well. I think I'll try slackware just because I haven't given it a shot yet. Can someone point out an iso (or better yet an img for my flash drive, of course I can use unetbootin) and perhaps a manual?

RedSquirrel
April 4th, 2010, 10:41 PM
I think I'll try slackware just because I haven't given it a shot yet. Can someone point out an iso (or better yet an img for my flash drive, of course I can use unetbootin) and perhaps a manual?

Read the text documents (Slackware-HOWTO, etc.) located on the Slackware mirrors, for example, here (http://slackware.osuosl.org/). You might also want to browse the Slackware forum (http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/).

_BugsBunny_
April 4th, 2010, 10:52 PM
You could run Debian, all you need to do is either install a kernel from backports, or - even better - install and run testing (squeeze) rather than lenny. See rtl818x - Debian Wiki (http://wiki.debian.org/rtl818x#RTL8187SE)

Zoot7
April 4th, 2010, 11:16 PM
You know. I really liked arch for a while. I know about the ABS and the AUR, but things kept breaking. It however did support my hardware quite well. I think I'll try slackware just because I haven't given it a shot yet. Can someone point out an iso (or better yet an img for my flash drive, of course I can use unetbootin) and perhaps a manual?
I'm a BIG fan of slackware, but I wouldn't use it on a netbook really tbh, as wireless for me was quite the pain in it - wpa-supplicant over the command line was the only thing I could get working, no joy with wicd.

Anyway, Debian is definitely one to consider. A minimial install of Testing with the likes of Fluxbox would fit the bill quite aptly IMO.
Or, what might be better still would be eeebuntu, which would be superior for the likes of battery life etc. (so I hear, haven't tried it myself)

Arand
April 4th, 2010, 11:30 PM
If it's simply a matter of getting the drivers up and running, wouldn't it be possible to install them through a chroot, using whatever liveCD that supports networking straight out of the box, in conjunction with an installed system of choice for which the drivers are available, yet needs to be pulled down separately..?
- Arand

MisfitI38
April 5th, 2010, 04:47 PM
I have a netbook. It's a nice eee 900HD computer. It currently runs gentoo quite nicely, but on a small netbook with less power than my home computer, it's not very efficient.
If by 'not very efficient' you mean 'too much compiling for a netbook', then why are you looking at Slackware as an alternative? You will have to compile a significant amount of software on Slack, to get a webworthy, multimedia system.


I want something simple, that still allows me to compile my own kernel, and gives the option to compile my own software as well as having a binary repo, for the sake of convenience.
Any distro will allow you to compile your own kernel or software..but we are back to the argument you cited above. The minimalist, or simple distros include Arch, Slack, and CRUX.


Something that also lets me install everything from scratch, no pre-installed stuff. Something that will let me dig into the roots of UNIX/Linux.
Arch, Slack, CRUX.


I still plan on using gentoo linux on my main tower, but, my netbook needs something else. I tried debian, but it won't support the rtl8187se driver out of the box..
You want a minimalist distribution that has no pre-installed stuff, but you complain of no wireless out of the box...hmmm. The obvious solution would be to acquire the wireless drivers you need and installing them to a base Debian installation.

What do you guys think.
I think you may want to rethink exactly what you want/need. You seem to contradict yourself a bit. There are only so many 'minimalist' distros, and they all require manual configuration, and yes, sometimes effort, to shape them into exactly what we need.
My advice is to grab the distro of your choice by the horns and stop letting these trivial roadblocks stop you. Make the OS work for you. ;)
Enjoy, and let us know how you do.

Eisenwinter
April 5th, 2010, 05:25 PM
Or maybe he *gasp* didn't like Arch?
That's impossible, don't be ridiculous.

dragos240
April 5th, 2010, 05:44 PM
That's impossible, don't be ridiculous.

It's true. Anyway, consider this topic [SOLVED]. I have chosen debian as my default netbook OS. Works great.