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ssam
March 13th, 2006, 07:02 PM
in light of recent events i wondered what people thing about some sort of automatic upgrade system. this would allow the ubuntu devs to mark a security upgrade as urgent, and it would be automatically download and installed by all ubuntu machines.
i think it would be techincally feasable for a script to run maybe every 24 hours that checks a list for urgent upgrades. if there are any they would be downloaded and installed with apt. it would use a signing system to prevent people exploiting it.
i imagine some users have stong feelings about automatic downloading and installing of code. (i heard people complain about the popup messages for updates). but does faster bug patching ballance out the risks.
stuporglue
March 13th, 2006, 07:35 PM
no
yes, but only for critcal securtiy fixes
yes, for all updates
not sure
I voted "no" because of the given options, "no" is the closest to what I would choose. My real preference would be for it to be an option, but not turned on by default and for the user to be able to decide which repos could issue updates.
On my normal machine then, I could then say that security.ubuntu.com could issue auto-updates but nothing else. On my dapper machine though, I might want it to just pull all the updates all the time.
btw. Wouldn't this be something pretty easy to set up as a cron job?
5-HT
March 13th, 2006, 08:21 PM
I voted "no" because of the given options, "no" is the closest to what I would choose. My real preference would be for it to be an option, but not turned on by default and for the user to be able to decide which repos could issue updates.
On my normal machine then, I could then say that security.ubuntu.com could issue auto-updates but nothing else.
btw. Wouldn't this be something pretty easy to set up as a cron job?
Same feelings here.
While it can be important to ensure systems are getting patched in a timely manner when critical security bugs are found, I'm a little uneasy about forcing automatic installation of updates.
Being able to chose which updates (i.e. urgent security ones vs. application bug fixes, or something along those lines), if any, can be automatically installed is a great idea.
About adding as a cron job, it would be a simple thing to do, but how could one differentiate between security vs. non-security app bug updates?
Wouldn't that be more of an all-or-nothing?
vayu
March 14th, 2006, 12:43 AM
NO! The whole "we know what's good for you" philosophy can stay with M$ thank you very much.
nocturn
March 14th, 2006, 04:51 AM
Dapper actually has this option.
And as long as it's an option, I'm all for it.
tribaal
March 14th, 2006, 04:55 AM
NO! The whole "we know what's good for you" philosophy can stay with M$ thank you very much.
Same position. I chose linux because it allows me to decide what's good for me myself, and I want it to remain that way.
And you can do a cron job to auto-upgrade for you if you really feel like it, by the way
- Trib'
Barrakketh
March 14th, 2006, 05:45 AM
NO! The whole "we know what's good for you" philosophy can stay with M$
And GNOME.
engla
March 14th, 2006, 07:12 AM
Dapper actually has this option.
And as long as it's an option, I'm all for it.
Sounds good. Where is this option? Is it in synaptic ("Install all updates from repo *") or in update manager (The more sober "Install security updates automatically")
syg00
March 14th, 2006, 07:20 AM
NO! The whole "we know what's good for you" philosophy can stay with M$ thank you very much.+1 ...
If any prick can get through to my systems before I get the updates on, good on 'em.
ssam
March 14th, 2006, 08:13 PM
if it was an option switched on by default, then people who are confident enough to manage there own system can turn it off. and the new to linux people who would be safer with it on can just leave it.
ubuntu does lots of things automatically already, is there a reason why installing urgent security updates should not be added to that list.
MetalMusicAddict
March 14th, 2006, 08:22 PM
I like it just how it is. As an "option". ;)
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