New forum under Other Ubuntu Support ?!

[mips]

Hi,

I have a suggestion.

After reading this thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29919 I came to the realisation of how many people in the math/scientific community actually use linux/unix. It seems like the defacto standard out there.

Would it not be nice for these people to have their own forum to discuss things that the rest of us would probably never look at.

If Ubuntu had such a forum specifically for Math/Science where these people could support each other it would be great.

These individuals usually work in an environment that is small/close knit and news spreads fast among them.

Imagine a few telling others, "Hey the Ubuntu forums have a section specifically for us". The lecturers/professors etc will learn to know about it. This in turn will get relayed to their students and will be kinda viewed as good advice etc.

This will get more people into Ubuntu and it helps to get them at a young age. Seeing this type of environment supports OSS it will lead to more people developing on Ubuntu.

Once they leave their educational establishment they will take Ubuntu with them into the workplace or so I hope.

What do you think ?

[mzilhao]

well... i'm a Physics student... :-)
i think it could be cool...

[kassetra]

It's possible that maybe actually under the Edubuntu section - there could be a math/science area.... hmmm.

[mips]

It's possible that maybe actually under the Edubuntu section - there could be a math/science area.... hmmm.

Thanks for the fast reply.

Anywhere here would be cool. Edubuntu just kinda seems like it is for school kids seeing it is the Ubuntu Educational version which i don't think the Scientist/Math/Engineering People would use.

Unless it gets called something like Higher Education or something like that.

Maybe others have some ideas they would like to express.

[Klaidas]

I think this is A good idea. Maybe and "Education" forum with subforums "Edubuntu" and "Science" would do the trick? :)

[mips]

It would be nice to have all the stuff for University level & higher in one forum which could cover Math/Science/Biology/Engineering. No need for each of those to have their very own sub-section as I dont think the level of traffic would justify it.

Come on people, let your voices & ideas be heard :)

[mstlyevil]

I like the concept, but there would have to be enough of a demand to do something like that. I personally think the demand would be there for a subsection for science and math majors.

[kayas80]

I like the concept, but there would have to be enough of a demand to do something like that. I personally think the demand would be there for a subsection for science and math majors.

I agree, there probably would be demand for such a forum.

[5-HT]

I like the idea, but am not sure if a forum specifically for the sciences would be the best implementation.

From what I understand (please correct me if I'm missing the point here), it seems like such a forum would be for application help specific to maths/sciences, rather then a general 'education' forum where one would go for scholarship (not as in financial, but rather knowledge) related support.

For what it's worth, what about just making a forum for application support in general?

Instead of people posting in the GNOME/KDE desktop support (or other), all application specific questions/issues, including those related to maths/sciences could go into this new application forum.

That way, there would be a concentrated area for application issues in which the lines between GNOME/KDE/OTHER are not necessarily relevant anyway (well, there are cases in which they are...but that's getting a little too specific).

I do like the idea, but am just suggesting that perhaps the underlaying utility could be served in a more general 'application' approach in which there could be a concentrated community for maths/sciences, but also other fields and interests in general.

[ssam]

disclaimer: i am a physics student

i think it would be good to have a science forum:
there is demand:
* http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29919 is nearly a year old, has 18 pages, and is still active
* https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuScientists is a big page which many people have contributed to.

there a lot to talk about in terms of applications. a lot of science software is quite old and difficult to use. discussions about the best way to deal with certain data. advice on scientific programming (even at undergraduate level people have to write scripts and programs to handle data). interfacing with data logging equiptment.

at uni in the labs they have a few machines running something like redhat 5 for an astrophys experiment. if ubuntu was a great distro for science then maybe these machines could be upgraded and students might get tempted to try ubuntu.

how exactly to file the section into these forums is up to the wisdom of the forum gods. maybe there should be a set like musicians, graphic artists, scientists, programmers, etc for various user groups.

[kleeman]

Math and Science SubForum sounds like a good idea to me. The present forum is enormous and hard to wade through for relevant ideas to improve productivity. Breaking this out would help with the filtering issue. There already is a wiki entry btw.

[akniss]

I really like this idea. There are many things that folks in science fields share, regardless of their field. We are all involved in many (if not all) of the following:

Present results at scientific meetings
Use statistics in one form or another
Publish results
Design experiments or surveys
Teach

It would be nice to have a place to discuss related issues.

Example: I'm in the agricultural sciences where the use of Latex is not common. I've learned a lot about Latex from a few individuals in the physical sciences, where its use is widespread.

Example: I use R for statistical analysis of complex experiments. I searched for a really long time to find a good R script editor that was in the Ubuntu repositories. A forum like this would be a good place to discuss things like this.

Example: We all have a need for a good bibliography manager. This forum would be a good place to post a howto on getting Bibus to work on ubuntu since it isn't in the repos. Or a place to talk about a new program that someone has found and thinks highly of.

Example: I haven't yet found a good program in Linux to create posters to present scientific results. I have to boot into windows to use powerpoint when I need to design a poster. A science or university forum would be an excellent place to start a thread to discuss the benefits/negatives of different packages.

At this time there is really no good place to discuss things like this, because it would be difficult for interested parties to find, while just cluttering up areas of the forum.

Just my $0.02.

[neoflight]

it seems like there are people insterested in having a specific section to university stuff.
here is one additional testimony

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111216&highlight=engineers

Let me propose a name:

"University"


the good thing on that broad a catagory is that several groups including engineers, physicists, biologists, mathematicians etc could be included

it seems also that.....there a space where we could put that right below installation and upgrade help \\:D/

[LaserJock]

I would also support a Science related (especially University level) forum. I am the Universe dev leading the MOTU Science Team (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Teams/Science). I would like to see a total ubuntuforums.org (subforum) / wiki.ubuntu.com (UbuntuScientists) / Mailing List (http://tauware.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-science) / and dev (i.e. MOTU Science) solution for scientists using Ubuntu.

It would be helpful from a dev standpoint to have a forum to post interesting items (pleas for help ;) ) and interact with users a little more. It is hard for me to wade through all the forums trying to find science related posts. Searches often times are not very helpful.

Anyway, just my $0.02

-LaserJock

[phen]

i am with laserjock for that matter. linux is really widespread among scientists. in fact, that is why i use it.

a lot of topics are so special that they don't fit in any "desktop application" categories. they don't even fit in application categories. science on linux is about: applications, servers, programming languages, parallel computing (and therefore hardware/driver support), scripting etc etc.

linux is very very mighty in scientific areas. but it lacks a forum :-)

kai

[punchy]

Hello,

I studied physics and am now working in biophysical chemistry. every one of our graduate students is sitting at a PC running Ubuntu (Breezy right now).

I generally use the following programmes (no particular order):

octave
its a matlab-like environemnt, very nice, but i have since moved on to python, which has modules which you may load into your programmes and which fulfill exactly the same things as matlab.

gnuplot
especially since ver. 4.0 its very usable, very nice. script oriented, but to my mind thats a bonus. mind you 'lapbplot' (from kde) looks very promising.

openoffice
heres the biggest problem: compatibility to microsoft office. secretaries and the like (the prof. heading the research group i am in) use microsoft office to write papers. i loaded their work into openoffice, worked on it, and exported into .doc format. it doesn't matter whether the result is 99% ok. it needs to be 100% ok. in my case all the references had to be reworked. the best answer to this little problem: set up one windows pc amongst the ubuntus and use those office programmes via remotedesktop to make sure you stay compatible.

scribus
in order to make posters for conferences, i found 'scribus' to be very useful.

kile (latex frontend)
i wish i had had kile (or lyx) when i was writing my theses with latex.

python
heres software with immense promise fro the scientific world.. check around the www. it has great graphics modules, matrix oriented commands, built in fit procedures and what not. and as far as i can see, it'll only get better.

pymol
great for looking at protein structures

thats it for now.

Punchy.

[nsa_767]

This is an excellent idea! Though I believe it will be mostly used by scientists, calling it "university" will allow for those in the social sciences also to participate.... (I.e. economists making use of GRETL and R for econometrics/statistics won't feel left out ;) )

[David Valentine]

I'm all for this idea--I'd like to interact with other academics to learn how to use Linux most effectively in teaching and research. Using the term "university" for our forum might be a bit misleading to some as "Ubuntu University" sounds like a place to learn about advanced Ubuntu or something. I'd suggest instead something like "Academe", "Academia", or "Scholar" to denote the research/teaching emphasis that I think we're after.

[bernardfrancois]

I think a science forum is a good idea. But I don't think there's a need for any other related forums, all I hear here is 'biology, physics, math, ...' which are all sciences. Even other subjects like philosopy can be categorised under 'science'.

Being an engineering student, it's likely that I'll be following the threads in that forum.

Adding a science forum will cause conflicts with the application support forum; some people will still post their questions or recommendations about science related programs in the application support forum.
I also noticed something similar with the application support forum and the programming>compiling forum.
Maybe posts should be able to be member of multiple forums, not just one.
Anway, this remark is way offtopic, but maybe someone will pick up the idea and post it somewhere else :)

[ssam]

is the someone who needs to be asked to make this happen? i think we have demonstrated that there is enough interest to make this worth while.

if the lack of a subforum moderator is holding up this idea then i would volunteer.

[kleeman]

Perhaps you should PM Ubuntu-geek....

[kassetra]

We've seen the requests. We are still working on phase 2 of our reorganization plan, and until this is complete, we will not be adjusting the current lineup of other subforums.

We will consider this request after phase 2 has been completed.

[punchy]

I give you..

Unibuntu

[kleeman]

Thanks for the info kassetra. Your moniker is pretty amazing :cool:

[kassetra]

Thanks for the info kassetra. Your moniker is pretty amazing :cool:

LOL Cherry Blossom viewing season is almost upon us! :)

She has to be suitably dressed, of course. :)

[sherlock-holmes]

LOL Cherry Blossom viewing season is almost upon us! :)

She has to be suitably dressed, of course. :)


amazing.... nice time huh!!

its nice that you are considering the request for a for...um where all the university public can participate...i am sure there are thousands here to contribute...

i made atleast 3 people to use ubuntu.... all from my school....see... and now they want to see what they could do with ubuntu....

now iwant to say ..."hey...go to university/academia/varsity/school forum in ubuntuforums"....

and.....

[neoflight]

I'm all for this idea--I'd like to interact with other academics to learn how to use Linux most effectively in teaching and research. Using the term "university" for our forum might be a bit misleading to some as "Ubuntu University" sounds like a place to learn about advanced Ubuntu or something. I'd suggest instead something like "Academe", "Academia", or "Scholar" to denote the research/teaching emphasis that I think we're after.

well...ifeel...academia/scholar seems too concentrated...
i would still like universtity (it could be students, profs, staffs)... i think almost no who uses linux would expect a university by a linux distro...

anyway its for the forum guys to decide...lets pour in as many suggestions as possible...

[mips]

http://business.newsforge.com/business/06/03/09/2238246.shtml?tid=37

This is for the arts which is good but I would like to see articles like this based on the sciences...

[akniss]

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=861638#post861638

While we wait for our forum to be put on the site, I've posted a new thread specifically to share software that is useful in my scientific career. Thanks to mips for the idea!!

[ssam]

so what is this phase 2? sounds exciting

[alancaerdydd]

I cannot support this highly enough. In fact I'd be more than prepared to lobby both my university and my professional societies to stump up some financial donation to the Ubuntu project.

I work in medical research and do a massive amount of computing often using programs which were originally developed in pre-pc days on UNIX mainframes. Many of these were originally written in flavours of FORTRAN or very early C. However I am not a computer scientist and like most busy scientists I do not always have the time to master the intricacies of some installs. There is nothing more frustrating than knowing that others have got a program to work and you can't. I already subscribe to over a dozen specialist forum lists and often it takes me weeks to solve issues which a linux expert would probably do in minutes...

I find it's never the scientific aspect of a program that gives me a problem but paths, permissions, makefiles etc etc.

A section of this forum where we could exchange ideas, solutions etc in the same spirit as the rest of this forum which compared to most I have experienced is incredibly supportive and life enhancing would be a major contribution to scholarship and thereby the Ubuntu projects academic profile.

Alan

[kleeman]

Alan,
Good analysis. I was in the same situation as you and got very frustrated with dealing with sysadmin issues all the time because in my experience you can't hire people who will help you effectively. They are all earning more than you working for an investment bank or whatever.

My solution was to bite the bullet and install linux exclusively on my home PC. I was sufficiently versed in Unix from years of numerical modelling with Cray and Sun systems that this was survivable. Long term however it made me learn Unix in more depth and I am now able to manage a 24 node cluster at work with only occasional emergency help from sysadmins. As a result my productivity and scientific output has actually increased substantially because of my greater flexibility on the computing side. Another benefit has been that I can stay home and work much more effectively than previously meaning I can avoid screwing myself up with commuting. Just my 2c worth.

[ssam]

is there any news on this happening?

[mips]

Have to wait for phase 2 of forum changes then the admins will consider it. So for now we have to wait and then see.

[ubuntu27]

Have to wait for phase 2 of forum changes then the admins will consider it. So for now we have to wait and then see.

What's the phase 2?
I though that all the forum changes were done already...

[leeyee]

Hi, I'm an Informatics Engineering student.
You've post a really exciting idea MIPS!

[mips]

What's the phase 2?
I though that all the forum changes were done already...

Dunno but they are not done yet apparently.

[ssam]

sorry to keep pestering

any news on this?

was all the move around lat week phase two?

[akniss]

Don't mean to beat a dead thread... but is this getting close to a reality? Now that dapper has been released, i don't come to the forums that often anymore because everything works! This would get me here more regularly, and I could then try and help others a little more often...

[kassetra]

We'll get a "Sciences" type of sub-forum probably fairly soon.

[mips]

Thanks kassetra ! I'm sure it will be appreciated by many.

[akniss]

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29919

The original science thread is active again... Don't they like us? I'm trying to be patient... i really am. But I really think MANY people would be well served by a science sub-forum, especially now that we're getting even more folks here with the Dapper release.

[mips]

To the Staff:

Is this still on the cards or has the idea been scrapped since kassetra's departure ?

A simple 'yes' or 'no' would suffice for those wanting to know.

Thanking you for your assistance.

[mips]

Bump

[akniss]

The Ubuntu Customization Guide has a link under 3rd party projects from the forum homepage. The link takes you to a sub-forum with 7 threads, containing a TOTAL of 66 posts!!! Yes, that's right: 66 posts!!! Total!

This post will be post number 45 in this thread just asking to have a sub-forum to discuss scientific issues/software related to Ubuntu. The original "Are there any scientists-biologists" thread currently has 219 posts in it. Add to that the myriad of threads scattered across the forums discussing latex, scilab, matlab, R, PSPP, gnumeric, gnuplot, scigraphica, octave, bibus, GRASS, etc. Surely we deserve to have a prominent place to discuss common problems and issues faced by other scientists, don't we? Am I wrong??? Could we at least get a yes or no answer so that we can move somewhere else if that is what it takes? ](*,)

I'm sorry if it seems that I am nagging, but I am quite frustrated, since it was only about six weeks ago that we thought this would soon become a reality...

[mips]

Is anyone even looking at this, just wondering ?

[Baphomet]

bump!

[mips]

I pm'd ubuntu-geek and this is going to happen as soon as we can come up with:

1. A name for the forum
2. A description for the forum

So PLEASE post your suggestions here for 1 & 2 above.

Once we have a few we could start a poll and vote on it if we don't have general concensus on the above.

ubuntu-geek, thanks for your assistance !

[slimdog360]

very nice idea, Id really like to see something like this. Maybe once the hardware for the new servers is put up this could be achieved.

1) name: Scientific talk
2) description: Place for talk about science, maths, physics, engineering etc.

[mips]

very nice idea, Id really like to see something like this. Maybe once the hardware for the new servers is put up this could be achieved.

1) name: Scientific talk
2) description: Place for talk about science, maths, physics, engineering etc.

It is happening, once we have a name & desription. We must just give people the oppertunity for some comments and once we agree on it it will be done within 24hrs.

[kleeman]

Name etc sounds good to me. Glad to here something is happening in this area.

[akniss]

Sorting through the thread, we have several suggestions so far for a name:

University
Science
Acedemia
Scholar
Unibuntu
Scientific Talk


Some comments so far:
University
---excludes scientists from industry or government
---may sound like we're going to teach you about Ubuntu
Science
---ambiguous as to whether it includes social sciences/liberal arts

I guess looking at some of the other subforum names under other support options, I like slimdog's suggestion of Scientific Talk. I think it says what it needs to say. We could easily make it clear in the description that we would like to include social scientists, engineers, mathmeticians, etc. Programming Talk subforum has the following for its description: "This forum is for all programming questions. The questions do not have to be directly related to Ubuntu and any language is allowed."

I would propose the following:
TITLE: Science Talk
DESCRIPTION: A place to discuss scientific and mathematics software for Ubuntu or linux in general. Questions and comments from all academic and research disciplines are welcome.

[mips]

Sounds good.

Lets give it a bit more time and see what else pops up.

[Baphomet]

I would propose the following:
TITLE: Science Talk
DESCRIPTION: A place to discuss scientific and math software for Ubuntu or linux in general. Questions and comments from all academic and research disciplines are welcome.

That sounds good!

[ubuntu27]

;) Now this is going somewhere! :KS

[LaserJock]

Wahooo!!
Let's get the party started!

LaserJock does his "We get a subforum" dance ;-)

Seriously, I like akniss's suggestion

[Omnios]

I actualy think such sections would benifit Ubuntu in expanding the usage past the desktop market. Web desing, graphics be it hobby or future commercial use.

[bfakefree]

This is brilliant, I could be blind and have missed it, but has any forum staff replied to this idea or siad what they think.

the name should be easy to link to on a search, just a suggestion.

I've been on the Microchip forum, which i think is brilliant, that deals with micro-controllers and electronics, just imagine if you can get your electronic type guys here with the help they can provide on the hardware side. There are some amazing guys out there like J_Doin(user ID) from microchip forum.

I think it should be Scince talk with broad based sub forums that use sofware heavily as part of its programme, eg sub-heading: Electronics, Maths, science etc

[ubuntu_demon]

I really like this idea!

I'm going through some changes in my life and I will be starting a Master of Science in Artificial Intelligence on monday.

see my blog post :

Some changes in my life
http://ubuntudemon.wordpress.com/2006/09/01/some-changes-in-my-life/

This post is about my personal opinion.

I will be happy to help you with moving science related threads to this new subforum (once it is up).

It would be great if you guys can help me by compiling a list of existing science threads which need to be moved to this new subforum.

IMHO threads about LaTeX and gnuplot also qualify for the new subforum.

IMHO we also need a stickied thread with a list of the most popular scientific software.

IMHO it needs to be a bit like "Scientific Software options for Ubuntu" by akniss :
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=150310

IMHO the first post should include a list with this information for each package / application / tool :
- how to install it (including suggested/recommended packages)
- description of it (apt-cache show packagename)
- link to the official website
- links to documentation,examples,templates,relevant code and tutorials

It only needs the most popular applications because IMHO we shouldn't try to duplicate this effort :
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuScientists

IMHO we should call this sticky : "READ ME FIRST before posting / FAQ" or something like that.

We should also link to :

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuScientists
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Teams/Science

If someone wants to create this sticky (once the new subforum is up) and take the responsibility for trying to maintain it a little bit then I will be happy to sticky such a thread in the new subforum.

I am happy to help moderating the new subforum a little bit :)

[ubuntu_demon]

I started a thread about matlab / scilab / octave here :

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=247049

Hi,

I haven't tried scilab nor octave yet. I have a couple of questions :

* If someone (for example a teacher) requires matlab code. Can I produce code using octave/scilab which will fully work (guaranteed) on matlab ?

* Is it easy/feasible to work together on code with people who might insist on using matlab (when I use scilab/octave) ?

* Is there some tutorial for working together with matlab ?

thanks guys


If you wish to reply regarding that thread then please reply in that thread instead of here.

[akniss]

IMHO we also need a stickied thread with a list of the most popular scientific software.

IMHO it needs to be a bit like "Scientific Software options for Ubuntu" by akniss :
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=150310

IMHO the first post should include a list with this information for each package / application / tool :
- how to install it (including suggested/recommended packages)
- description of it (apt-cache show packagename)
- link to the official website
- links to documentation,examples,templates,relevant code and tutorials

IMHO we should call this sticky : "READ ME FIRST before posting / FAQ" or something like that.

If someone wants to create this sticky (once the new subforum is up) and take the responsibility for trying to maintain it a little bit then I will be happy to sticky such a thread in the new subforum.


I would be happy to create a thread like this for the new subforum and keep it up to date. I think it would be a good first post to read the myriad of subject matter covered by top-quality linux software.
Glad to have you on board ubuntu_demon! Good luck with the new direction your life is taking!

[akniss]

It would be great if you guys can help me by compiling a list of existing science threads which need to be moved to this new subforum.


Here's the one that started the movement in the first place:
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29919

Here are some that I have started:
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88749
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=150310
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98120

And a couple more that seem relevant:
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111216
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122841 <- if we could update this for dapper, that would probably be good. I will try once I get my test box back up and working.

[ubuntu_demon]

I would be happy to create a thread like this for the new subforum and keep it up to date. I think it would be a good first post to read the myriad of subject matter covered by top-quality linux software.
Glad to have you on board ubuntu_demon! Good luck with the new direction your life is taking!
Thanks ! :)

[ubuntu_demon]

Here's the one that started the movement in the first place:
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29919

Here are some that I have started:
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88749
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=150310
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98120

And a couple more that seem relevant:
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111216
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122841 <- if we could update this for dapper, that would probably be good. I will try once I get my test box back up and working.
Thanks! If you can keep editting this post then I will move these threads to the new subforum once it opens. (I will try to do it within 24 hours after opening)

[Campitor]

Thanks! If you can keep editting this post then I will move these threads to the new subforum once it opens. (I will try to do it within 24 hours after opening)

Hello All:

I just returned from the field (17 months without a proper internet connection) and I am flabbergasted due to the incredible development in the Ubuntu-science forum idea. I am truly happy that this is becoming a reality, and I’m sure scientist worldwide will recognize this effort. I just wanted to say, that we should strive to maintain the focus of the forum towards software implementation:

1.What is the best linux software to do X?
2.How do I accomplish X using Y software?
3.What is the linux substitute for a specific Windows software?
4./etc

This way, the Ubuntu team as well as people form different fields of work, can actively participate in the discussion. Some questions will invariably lead into a scientific discussion (we love to discuss and defend our opinions, and the advancement of science (any field) is dependent of it)…that’s ok and it should not be discouraged.

I’ve introduced Ubuntu to at least 20 people during my time in Costa Rica, and I realized that most of the questions stemming from the transition were always focused on finding the proper software for s specific task, finding internet manuals or how-to pages, tutorials, and \bf{discussion fora}. Therefore, I am quite confident that centralizing this information within Ubuntu will be an invaluable help for newcomers into the OS.

Just my humble opinion.

Camp.

[panickedthumb]

ubuntu-demon, are you sure you'd consider LaTeX posts for this section? That's not necessarily just science and math.

[ubuntu_demon]

ubuntu-demon, are you sure you'd consider LaTeX posts for this section? That's not necessarily just science and math.
You are right. Let's not move all LaTeX threads to this new subforum.

But IMHO we should allow them in the new subforum because it's definitely something people will look for.

[panickedthumb]

indeed, as it CAN relate to it.

Looking forward to seeing this get off the ground, it's been in discussion almost since the beginning.

[alecjw]

It's maths goddamit, not math!:evil:
Sorry, had to be said.;)

[kleeman]

Math=US
Maths=UK,Australia
Mathematics=Correct

[ubuntu27]

Math=US
Maths=UK,Australia
Mathematics=Correct

:KS :KS You got an "A++" :KS and smiley faces :) :)

Common Errors in English (Math/Maths/Mathematics not included :P ):
http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/index.html

[Omnios]

K do you think ifferent types of cad programms should be listed?

[randell6564]

Hi,

I have a suggestion.

After reading this thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29919 I came to the realisation of how many people in the math/scientific community actually use linux/unix. It seems like the defacto standard out there.

Would it not be nice for these people to have their own forum to discuss things that the rest of us would probably never look at.

If Ubuntu had such a forum specifically for Math/Science where these people could support each other it would be great.

These individuals usually work in an environment that is small/close knit and news spreads fast among them.

Imagine a few telling others, "Hey the Ubuntu forums have a section specifically for us". The lecturers/professors etc will learn to know about it. This in turn will get relayed to their students and will be kinda viewed as good advice etc.

This will get more people into Ubuntu and it helps to get them at a young age. Seeing this type of environment supports OSS it will lead to more people developing on Ubuntu.

Once they leave their educational establishment they will take Ubuntu with them into the workplace or so I hope.

What do you think ?

"Math"? "Scientific"? POOP!! 'BURP' YOU figure it out! LOL!

[mips]

Is everybody happy with the proposal by akniss for the following:


TITLE: Science Talk
DESCRIPTION: A place to discuss scientific and mathematics software for Ubuntu or linux in general. Questions and comments from all academic and research disciplines are welcome.


So far it looks like most are in agreement with the above. Will forward the above for creation in 24hrs time if no one disagrees.

[alancaerdydd]

excellent news mips, this will grow into a major resource for scientists.

very many thanks Alan

[mips]

excellent news mips, this will grow into a major resource for scientists.

very many thanks Alan


I sent the details of to ubuntu-geek about 5hrs ago so hopefully we will see something in the next few days.

Don't thank me, thank the owner & staff.

[ubuntu_demon]

an interesting article :
http://community.linux.com/community/06/09/06/1548258.shtml?tid=1&tid=49

[mips]

an interesting article :
http://community.linux.com/community/06/09/06/1548258.shtml?tid=1&tid=49

When I read that I nearly puked when the I saw the part about Fourier Transforms. Used to hate those with a passion. Lot's of writing and calcs with a scientific calculator. Brought back bad memories of some of my study days.

[kleeman]

FAST Fourier transforms are a very clever part of numerical analysis. :p :p :p

[akniss]

I sent the details of to ubuntu-geek about 5hrs ago so hopefully we will see something in the next few days.

Don't thank me, thank the owner & staff.

*exasperated sigh*

[mips]

The new forum is up and can be found here:

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=169

Now we just have to start moving some threads in to it which is a big job I think as their have been many threads that fit into that sub-forum.

[ubuntu-geek]

Make a list, we can move them for you.

[mips]

Make a list, we can move them for you.

Thanks, I'll start doing some key-word searches in the morning.

If their are others willing to assist in searching for threads that fit the description then get cracking ;)

Make a list and post it here. We just have to ensure we don't duplicate things.

I think ubuntu-demon offered to assist with this.

[mips]

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=150310
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111216
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222291
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=229078

[matthew]

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=150310
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111216
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222291
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=229078Done. As you find more, let us know.

[mips]

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=14248
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=59077
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=61049
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65084
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=70629
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98120
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=129336
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179581
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=180512
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197059
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111216
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=247995

[mips]

Done. As you find more, let us know.

Thanks.

This is going to take a while. Once a keyword search is done you have physically scan the thread to see if it is relevant as it might be better suited in it's present location. Also leaving out the mailing list threads.

We will evwentually get there...

[mips]

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23735
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=101023
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=180512
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=184049
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197059
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208861
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=243701
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29919

[matthew]

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=14248
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=59077
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=61049
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65084
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=70629
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98120
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=129336
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179581
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=180512
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197059
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111216
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=247995Done.

[mips]

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53108
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=71129
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=15423
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140623
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=162158
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197059
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=196571
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222291
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=136646
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=237903
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=247995
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=194380

[matthew]

Chemistryhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23735
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=101023
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=180512
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=184049
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197059
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208861
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=243701
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29919also done.

[matthew]

Astronomyhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53108
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=71129
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=15423
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140623
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=162158
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197059
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=196571
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222291
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=136646
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=237903
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=247995
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=194380done

[mips]

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=166857
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=161490
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=172750
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=182557
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185229
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185780
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=121078
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=228890
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=247049
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111216
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=112116
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=264084

[mips]

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239074
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=253169
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=264084

[mips]

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=132379
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=260325
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=226686

[mips]

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=250651
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=102722
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=171103
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=163683

[matthew]

Engineeringhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=166857
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=161490
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=172750
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=182557
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185229
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185780
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=121078
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=228890
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=247049
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111216
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=112116
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=264084

Electronichttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239074
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=253169
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=264084Almost all of these two groups were moved. There were 2 or 3 threads that when I looked at them seemed better suited to where they already are.

[mips]

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=129971
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=210083

[matthew]

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=132379
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=260325
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=226686

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=250651
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=102722
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=171103
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=163683All done

[matthew]

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=129971
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=210083done

[mips]

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49178
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=212425

[matthew]

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49178
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=212425The backport request should stay where it is. The other was moved.

It looks like your new forum is off to a good start...and I'm off to bed. Have a great night!

[mips]

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=245470
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=155881
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=192401
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190325
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201947
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=215308
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217332
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88749
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=254534
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=257343
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=141735
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=264231
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=264236

[mips]

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43725
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53712
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53759
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=71348
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=73284
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=97659
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=72236
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=110199
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111763
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=112113
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149195
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148488
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=165280
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=184811
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=196027
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190224
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222007
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222007
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=172060
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=172060
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=206732
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=260535
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=141735
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263994

I'm off to bed, tomorrow is another day...

[akniss]

Thread title search: Statistics/Statisticians

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=248750
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=215990
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=127835
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=93493
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96499
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88749

[akniss]

Biology:
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=229882

Bibus:
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=195756
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=251240
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=237072
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=210708 <-questionable
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=121335 <-questionable
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43144 <-questionable
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49155
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43824

[akniss]

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=218438
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=134311
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=116324
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89208
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24055

[matthew]

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43725
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53712
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53759
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=71348
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=73284
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=97659
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=72236
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=110199
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111763
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=112113
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149195
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148488
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=165280
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=184811
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=196027
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190224
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222007
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222007
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=172060
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=172060
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=206732
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=260535
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=141735
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263994

I'm off to bed, tomorrow is another day...done

[matthew]

Thread title search: Statistics/Statisticians

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=248750
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=215990
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=127835
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=93493
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96499
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88749

Biology:
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=229882

Bibus:
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=195756
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=251240
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=237072
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=210708 <-questionable
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=121335 <-questionable
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43144 <-questionable
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49155
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43824

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=218438
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=134311
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=116324
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89208
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24055
I moved most of these threads as well. Some were better suited to where they are. Looks like we're up to date with recommendations for threads to populate the new forum.

[mips]

we need to start looking at application specific names like latex, kile, matlab etc.

[akniss]

we need to start looking at application specific names like latex, kile, matlab etc.

I tried that last night with R... lol...

[mips]

I tried that last night with R... lol...

lol, you must have got a gazillion hits for that search term :lol:

[akniss]

SPSS, PSPP, SAS:
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=139414
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=33052
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=147114
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51714
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84928
Statistical:
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=176790
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92875
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=108651
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24036
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8302
GRASS:
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68159
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41706
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24432
Calculator:
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18495
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89550
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68577

[akniss]

lol, you must have got a gazillion hits for that search term :lol:

Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.

The following words are either very common, too long, or too short and were not included in your search : R
lol

[akniss]

Mips,
Would be interested on your opinion for making the following threads sticky:
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29919
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=150310
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=265680

[matthew]

SPSS, PSPP, SAS:
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=139414
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=33052
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=147114
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51714
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84928
Statistical:
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=176790
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92875
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=108651
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24036
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8302
GRASS:
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68159
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41706
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24432
Calculator:
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18495
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89550
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68577I went through all these and moved some.

I started to realize some threads (that I've moved and some I haven't) were from 2004 during the Warty Warthog era and hadn't been posted in since. I'm going to concentrate starting now on moving threads where the most recent post is no older than January 2006. If the question comes up again it's more likely that a new post in the Science Talk forum would be helpful than a thread from the Warty or Hoary forums.

[matthew]

Mips,
Would be interested on your opinion for making the following threads sticky:

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=150310
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=265680

I know you didn't ask me...but I'll chime in anyway. I think these two are great candidates for stickies in your forum. If you want all three or any combination of these or others stuck let me or any mod know and we'll take care of it for you. :)

[akniss]

I went through all these and moved some.

I started to realize some threads (that I've moved and some I haven't) were from 2004 during the Warty Warthog era and hadn't been posted in since. I'm going to concentrate starting now on moving threads where the most recent post is no older than January 2006. If the question comes up again it's more likely that a new post in the Science Talk forum would be helpful than a thread from the Warty or Hoary forums.

Good call... I wasn't really watching the dates. :-k Its surprising how many questions have been asked about some of these topics, that I never would have found otherwise.

[mips]

Mips,
Would be interested on your opinion for making the following threads sticky:
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29919
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=150310
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=265680

I'd say cool, go for it. But you really don't have to ask me ;)